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Frogwatch[_2_] January 16th 10 08:44 PM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.

H:>)K January 16th 10 09:09 PM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
Frogwatch wrote:
Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.


Wasp and hornet spray can shoot 20 to 30 feet. No one will question you
having it.

RLM January 16th 10 09:10 PM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:44:38 -0800, Frogwatch wrote:

Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is that
I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them. I do
carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it could be a
weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old enough
to not be worth any effort although she works well. My strategy is to
simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to even board.


In another group it was mentioned to keep wasp/hornet spray on hand
instead of pepper spray. Straight steady stream of spray to help aim.
Supposed to burn much like pepper spray. I wouldn't want it pointed at my
eyes even if it was harmless. The range of the spray is pretty good too.

I know it kills wasps, the kind that fly. Not sure about white anglo, you
know.

The YMMV applies.



John H[_12_] January 16th 10 09:12 PM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:44:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.


We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.
--

John H

RLM January 16th 10 09:20 PM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:09:03 -0500, H:)K wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.


Wasp and hornet spray can shoot 20 to 30 feet. No one will question you
having it.


You should have said something at the other place and I would have kept to
myself.


RLM January 16th 10 09:26 PM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:20:27 -0500, RLM wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:09:03 -0500, H:)K wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.


Wasp and hornet spray can shoot 20 to 30 feet. No one will question you
having it.


You should have said something at the other place and I would have kept to
myself.


Oh! Your the fake Harry. No wonder.


Eddie January 16th 10 09:45 PM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:44:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.

You should be ok without weapons as long as you stay away from the
Somali pirates.
Eddie

Wayne.B January 16th 10 11:41 PM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:12:40 -0500, John H
wrote:

We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.


If you fire a live shotgun round in a flare pistol you will likely be
picking it out of your teeth and other inconvenient places. Tests
have shown that they are not even up to firing a .410 shell with a
steel reducing sleeve in the barrel.


H :>) K January 16th 10 11:53 PM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:44:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.


We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.



I'd pay a reasonable amount of money to see you firing a heavy 12-gauge
round out of a flare gun. You could use the proceeds to rebuild your
hand and face.

Dumfoch.

Whose army were you in, anyway? Didn't you get any weapons training?

Don White January 17th 10 12:41 AM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 

"H :) K" wrote in message
m...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:44:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.


We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.



I'd pay a reasonable amount of money to see you firing a heavy 12-gauge
round out of a flare gun. You could use the proceeds to rebuild your hand
and face.

Dumfoch.

Whose army were you in, anyway? Didn't you get any weapons training?


...and people wonder how the US lost the Vietnam War! Tsk Tsk



John H[_12_] January 17th 10 12:56 AM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:41:32 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:12:40 -0500, John H
wrote:

We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.


If you fire a live shotgun round in a flare pistol you will likely be
picking it out of your teeth and other inconvenient places. Tests
have shown that they are not even up to firing a .410 shell with a
steel reducing sleeve in the barrel.


You musta missed the 'more than once' part. :)
--

John H

H :>) K January 17th 10 12:57 AM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
Don White wrote:
"H :) K" wrote in message
m...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:44:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.
We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.


I'd pay a reasonable amount of money to see you firing a heavy 12-gauge
round out of a flare gun. You could use the proceeds to rebuild your hand
and face.

Dumfoch.

Whose army were you in, anyway? Didn't you get any weapons training?


..and people wonder how the US lost the Vietnam War! Tsk Tsk



Herring never fails to amaze with his outright stupidity.

Taurus makes a small pistol called the Judge that shoots .45 Colt ammo
or .410 shotgun shells. Now, that pistol might be "amenable" to firing
..410 flares, though I haven't seen any of those in years. I wouldn't
fire flares out of that pistol without first checking with the pistol's
manufacturer, though.


RGrew176 January 17th 10 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H:)K (Post 775842)
Frogwatch wrote:
Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.


Wasp and hornet spray can shoot 20 to 30 feet. No one will question you
having it.

I like that idea. Keep the .357 as a back up.

Bill McKee January 17th 10 06:31 AM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:12:40 -0500, John H
wrote:

We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.


If you fire a live shotgun round in a flare pistol you will likely be
picking it out of your teeth and other inconvenient places. Tests
have shown that they are not even up to firing a .410 shell with a
steel reducing sleeve in the barrel.


Even if the launcher could handle the force, the range would be about 3
feet. The burn on a shotgun shell is most likely designed for at least 16"
barrel.



Bill McKee January 17th 10 06:32 AM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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"H :) K" wrote in message
m...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:44:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.

We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.



I'd pay a reasonable amount of money to see you firing a heavy 12-gauge
round out of a flare gun. You could use the proceeds to rebuild your hand
and face.

Dumfoch.

Whose army were you in, anyway? Didn't you get any weapons training?


..and people wonder how the US lost the Vietnam War! Tsk Tsk


slimeball!



Don White January 17th 10 04:36 PM

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Don White" wrote in message
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"H :) K" wrote in message
m...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:44:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.

We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.


I'd pay a reasonable amount of money to see you firing a heavy 12-gauge
round out of a flare gun. You could use the proceeds to rebuild your
hand and face.

Dumfoch.

Whose army were you in, anyway? Didn't you get any weapons training?


..and people wonder how the US lost the Vietnam War! Tsk Tsk


slimeball!



Had your morning drink yet, Swill?



Bill McKee January 18th 10 02:05 AM

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Don White" wrote in message
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"H :) K" wrote in message
m...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:44:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.

We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.


I'd pay a reasonable amount of money to see you firing a heavy 12-gauge
round out of a flare gun. You could use the proceeds to rebuild your
hand and face.

Dumfoch.

Whose army were you in, anyway? Didn't you get any weapons training?

..and people wonder how the US lost the Vietnam War! Tsk Tsk


slimeball!



Had your morning drink yet, Swill?


Do not just me by you and your son. And you are a slimeball for your
comments.



H :>) K January 18th 10 02:09 AM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
Bill McKee wrote:


Do not just me by you and your son. And you are a slimeball for your
comments.


Drunk again, SwillBill?

Do not "just" me...

snerk


Bill McKee January 18th 10 02:12 AM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:31:45 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:12:40 -0500, John H
wrote:

We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.

If you fire a live shotgun round in a flare pistol you will likely be
picking it out of your teeth and other inconvenient places. Tests
have shown that they are not even up to firing a .410 shell with a
steel reducing sleeve in the barrel.


Even if the launcher could handle the force, the range would be about 3
feet. The burn on a shotgun shell is most likely designed for at least
16"
barrel.



I have fired a 12 gauge shell out of a 6" pipe and it sounded pretty
convincing. I didn't chrono it but it would certainly back the bad guy
up.

BTW if you did have a short barreled shotgun (less than 18") you would
need a $200 tax stamp for it. Technically that pipe I put down on my
old Monkey Ward single barrel shotgun receiver was a violation of
NFA34 but I was probably young enough to be tried as a juvenile.

I did assemble pipe that into a last ditch, end of the alley weapon
and it ended up with a DC cop who thought it was an interesting idea.


Ithaca sold some double barrel shotgun pistols. During Prohibition to the
syndicate. But I think they were 10" barrels. 20 guage mostly.



Don White January 18th 10 02:37 AM

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"H :) K" wrote in message
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John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:44:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble to
even board.

We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.


I'd pay a reasonable amount of money to see you firing a heavy
12-gauge round out of a flare gun. You could use the proceeds to
rebuild your hand and face.

Dumfoch.

Whose army were you in, anyway? Didn't you get any weapons training?

..and people wonder how the US lost the Vietnam War! Tsk Tsk


slimeball!



Had your morning drink yet, Swill?


*Do not just me by you* and your son. And you are a slimeball for your
comments.


"Do not just me by you'
Guess that answers my question, asshole.



Bill McKee January 18th 10 03:53 AM

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Don White" wrote in message
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"H :) K" wrote in message
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John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:44:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Somebody asked if I carry any weapons when I cruise, The answer is
that I do not carry any firearms because I am incompetent with
them.
I do carry a machete, but that is a "tool", not a weapon, but, it
could be a weapon.
You can buy tear gas and pepper spray rounds for the 12 guage flare
launchers but I do not have them. I might get some pepper spray
canisters but have not done so.
I simply do not own anything worth stealing and my boat looks old
enough to not be worth any effort although she works well. My
strategy is to simply look as if my boat is not worth the trouble
to
even board.

We need a 12 gauge flare gun that will fire 12 gauge 00 Buckshot -
more than once.


I'd pay a reasonable amount of money to see you firing a heavy
12-gauge round out of a flare gun. You could use the proceeds to
rebuild your hand and face.

Dumfoch.

Whose army were you in, anyway? Didn't you get any weapons training?

..and people wonder how the US lost the Vietnam War! Tsk Tsk


slimeball!


Had your morning drink yet, Swill?


*Do not just me by you* and your son. And you are a slimeball for your
comments.


"Do not just me by you'
Guess that answers my question, asshole.


So you read them. Don't judge me by your son and your lifestyle. And you
are both stupid and a slimeball.



TopBassDog January 19th 10 12:20 AM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
On Jan 17, 8:09Â*pm, "H :) K" wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:

Do not just me by you and your son. Â*And you are a slimeball for your
comments.


Drunk again, SwillBill?

Do not "just" me...

Â*snerk


However so indirectly, Bill's use of the word "just" is reasonable.


just
adj [dÊ’ÊŒst]
1.
a. fair or impartial in action or judgment

Bruce[_10_] January 19th 10 12:36 AM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:12:45 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


Ithaca sold some double barrel shotgun pistols. During Prohibition to the
syndicate. But I think they were 10" barrels. 20 guage mostly.


There are several companies selling .410 capable pistols
This is one of the newest ones but they have been around for decades

http://www.gunblast.com/Taurus-Judge.htm

They get away with it because the barrel is rifled. One of the old
..410 pistols actually had a "choke" that spun the shot the other way
and tried to restore the pattern.
I saw a guy shooting skeet with one once at Andrews AFB but he wasn't
hitting many. It was a great "station 8" gun tho.

Many .45 Colts will shoot a .410.

I am Tosk January 19th 10 04:39 AM

Cruisers carrying weapons
 
In article , Bruce846
@gmail.com says...

wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:12:45 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


Ithaca sold some double barrel shotgun pistols. During Prohibition to the
syndicate. But I think they were 10" barrels. 20 guage mostly.


There are several companies selling .410 capable pistols
This is one of the newest ones but they have been around for decades

http://www.gunblast.com/Taurus-Judge.htm

They get away with it because the barrel is rifled. One of the old
..410 pistols actually had a "choke" that spun the shot the other way
and tried to restore the pattern.
I saw a guy shooting skeet with one once at Andrews AFB but he wasn't
hitting many. It was a great "station 8" gun tho.

Many .45 Colts will shoot a .410.


Well, I have never been too interested in handguns, but I like that
one..

Scotty




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