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Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside

He knows that, and who the **** is "Burt"??

Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 10:41 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 9:53 am, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 9:25 am, HK wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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I am Tosk wrote:
In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@
21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says...
On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on
admen
and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti.
www.directrelief.org
www.pih.org
www.americares.org
www.watermissions.org
www.savethechildren.org
Also the Adventist Foundation
Also the Salvation
Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788...
Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings
about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some
one for the "Haitian National Relief Fund" , when i heard the
typical "boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not,
I won't donate over the phone, especially to those who wish credit
card info.
Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set
up in Haiti when The RC is already there?
Scotty
Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for
contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong
logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the
contributions go to those intended.
Red Cross sucks!
We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out
NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business
playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting.
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Today, the Southern Baptists Association are sending two semi truck
loads of food and various suplies from a three county area to
Florida to be loaded and sent.
No offense, but if I were running a foreign country, the last groups I'd
let in for any reason are fundamentalist religious organizations, and
the southern baptists qualify on all counts. Organizationally, they are
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Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside
No offense, but only an idiot would belong to any church, and the
baptists are the worst church in the world.
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No, I'm not offended at all, seeing the church has been ridiculed for
the last 2000+ years? Oh yes, over the ages there have been some bums
that have acted out evil in "Gods name" but over all, there has been
great compassion and humanitarianism that has been spread by "the
church" asking for nothing in return.

You're responding to an ID spoofer.

John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 08:56:16 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 16, 10:41 am, Harry Krause wrote:

No offense, but only an idiot would belong to any church, and the
baptists are the worst church in the world.
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No, I'm not offended at all, seeing the church has been ridiculed for
the last 2000+ years? Oh yes, over the ages there have been some bums
that have acted out evil in "Gods name" but over all, there has been
great compassion and humanitarianism that has been spread by "the
church" asking for nothing in return.

Lots of comments from Harry, but he won't address the following:

Harry seems to get his jollies attempting to ridicule the


Responded to by me more than once, **** for brains.

Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 10:34 am, "H :) K" wrote:
Tim wrote:
Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside
I'm aware of that, as I have fundie relatives by marriage who have
served stints as missionaries in Central and South America. The primary
goal of fundamentalist missionaries is to spread "the faith," no matter
what else they are doing in those underdeveloped countries. That was the
primary goal of my southern baptist "relatives," one of whom worked as a
nurse at a clinic and the other who worked as a teacher in a little
school. The sickening part was they were working to convert Catholics
into protestants.

Did they help improve peoples health? Did they teach kids to read?
I think that's a bit better than living in desease and ignorance.

Now I could agree with your conversion thoughts if the missionaries
method of "converting" was forced. I really doubt there was any
"forcing" going on. But if you wish to disagree, it's always your
right to be critical.

There's direct and indirect forcing, as I am sure you know.

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

Tim wrote:

Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside


I'm aware of that, as I have fundie relatives by marriage who have
served stints as missionaries in Central and South America. The primary
goal of fundamentalist missionaries is to spread "the faith," no matter
what else they are doing in those underdeveloped countries. That was the
primary goal of my southern baptist "relatives," one of whom worked as a
nurse at a clinic and the other who worked as a teacher in a little
school. The sickening part was they were working to convert Catholics
into protestants.

plonk again...

On Jan 16, 11:27*am, "H :) K" wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 10:34 am, "H :) K" wrote:
Tim wrote:
Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti *then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside
I'm aware of that, as I have fundie relatives by marriage who have
served stints as missionaries in Central and South America. The primary
goal of fundamentalist missionaries is to spread "the faith," no matter
what else they are doing in those underdeveloped countries. That was the
primary goal of my southern baptist "relatives," one of whom worked as a
nurse at a clinic and the other who worked as a teacher in a little
school. The sickening part was they were working to convert Catholics
into protestants.

Did they help *improve peoples health? Did they teach kids to read?
I think that's a bit better than living in desease and ignorance.

Now I could agree with your conversion thoughts if the missionaries
method of "converting" *was forced. * I really doubt there was any
"forcing" going on. But if you wish to disagree, it's always your
right to be critical.

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Really? That's news to me.

In article 65409636-de24-4b89-ad6c-a31ec2a246b8
@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...
Here's a snip from an email I recieved two days after the earthquake"

"Mr. Shelby said one Illinois Baptist was already scheduled to help
provide food for Haiti. "Illinois disaster relief committed some
time ago to use one of our semi trucks to transport 20 tons of food to
Miami for a Christian relief agency called Hope for the Children of
Haiti," Shelby said. ..."

So far the donations have been doubled.


My parish had adopted a Haitian parish a couple of decades ago. We've
been supporting them for years with missions and cash. The most
interesting part is that when you go on a mission, to help the
parishioners, you go loaded with luggage but, when you come back you
return with just the clothes on your back.

BAR wrote:
In article 65409636-de24-4b89-ad6c-a31ec2a246b8
@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...
Here's a snip from an email I recieved two days after the earthquake"

"Mr. Shelby said one Illinois Baptist was already scheduled to help
provide food for Haiti. "Illinois disaster relief committed some
time ago to use one of our semi trucks to transport 20 tons of food to
Miami for a Christian relief agency called Hope for the Children of
Haiti," Shelby said. ..."

So far the donations have been doubled.


My parish had adopted a Haitian parish a couple of decades ago. We've
been supporting them for years with missions and cash. The most
interesting part is that when you go on a mission, to help the
parishioners, you go loaded with luggage but, when you come back you
return with just the clothes on your back.



I'm not including Catholic missions in my comments. For the most part,
Catholics are tending to their already existing flocks, and not trying
to convert Protestants.

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:27:52 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

Tim wrote:

Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside


I'm aware of that, as I have fundie relatives by marriage who have
served stints as missionaries in Central and South America. The primary
goal of fundamentalist missionaries is to spread "the faith," no matter
what else they are doing in those underdeveloped countries. That was the
primary goal of my southern baptist "relatives," one of whom worked as a
nurse at a clinic and the other who worked as a teacher in a little
school. The sickening part was they were working to convert Catholics
into protestants.

plonk again...

By now you only read your own posts **** for brains.

Plink to you to!

In article , lid
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:27:52 -0500, I am Tosk wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

Tim wrote:

Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had
missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run
clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government
inside, or outside


I'm aware of that, as I have fundie relatives by marriage who have
served stints as missionaries in Central and South America. The primary
goal of fundamentalist missionaries is to spread "the faith," no matter
what else they are doing in those underdeveloped countries. That was the
primary goal of my southern baptist "relatives," one of whom worked as a
nurse at a clinic and the other who worked as a teacher in a little
school. The sickening part was they were working to convert Catholics
into protestants.

plonk again...

By now you only read your own posts **** for brains.

Plink to you to!

I am truly honored, I have no been spoofed.