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HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Jan 16, 9:25 am, HK wrote: Bill McKee wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... I am Tosk wrote: In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@ 21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on admen and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti. www.directrelief.org www.pih.org www.americares.org www.watermissions.org www.savethechildren.org Also the Adventist Foundation Also the Salvation Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788... Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some one for the "Haitian National Relief Fund" , when i heard the typical "boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not, I won't donate over the phone, especially to those who wish credit card info. Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set up in Haiti when The RC is already there? Scotty Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the contributions go to those intended. Red Cross sucks! We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting. There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Today, the Southern Baptists Association are sending two semi truck loads of food and various suplies from a three county area to Florida to be loaded and sent. No offense, but if I were running a foreign country, the last groups I'd let in for any reason are fundamentalist religious organizations, and the southern baptists qualify on all counts. Organizationally, they are evil incarnate. Note that I am not commenting on individual followers of that sect. Well you're not. The only thing you have been able to run over the years is your mouth. |
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On Jan 16, 9:53*am, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Jan 16, 9:25 am, HK wrote: Bill McKee wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:VfadnZo3MPuhYc3WnZ2dnUVZ_t1i4p2d@giganews. com... I am Tosk wrote: In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@ 21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on admen and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti. www.directrelief.org www.pih.org www.americares.org www.watermissions.org www.savethechildren.org Also the Adventist Foundation Also the Salvation Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788... Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some one for the "Haitian National Relief *Fund" , when i heard the typical *"boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not, I won't donate over the phone, especially to *those who wish credit card info. Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set up in Haiti when The RC is already there? Scotty Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the contributions go to those intended. Red Cross sucks! We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting. There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Today, the Southern Baptists *Association are sending two semi truck loads of food and various suplies from *a three county *area to Florida to be loaded and sent. No offense, but if I were running a foreign country, the last groups I'd let in for any reason are fundamentalist religious organizations, and the southern baptists qualify on all counts. Organizationally, they are evil incarnate. Note that I am not commenting on individual followers of that sect.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government inside, or outside |
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On Jan 16, 10:25*am, Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 9:53*am, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 16, 9:25 am, HK wrote: Bill McKee wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:VfadnZo3MPuhYc3WnZ2dnUVZ_t1i4p2d@giganews. com... I am Tosk wrote: In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@ 21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on admen and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti. www.directrelief.org www.pih.org www.americares.org www.watermissions.org www.savethechildren.org Also the Adventist Foundation Also the Salvation Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788... Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some one for the "Haitian National Relief *Fund" , when i heard the typical *"boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not, I won't donate over the phone, especially to *those who wish credit card info. Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set up in Haiti when The RC is already there? Scotty Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the contributions go to those intended. Red Cross sucks! We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting. There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Today, the Southern Baptists *Association are sending two semi truck loads of food and various suplies from *a three county *area to Florida to be loaded and sent. No offense, but if I were running a foreign country, the last groups I'd let in for any reason are fundamentalist religious organizations, and the southern baptists qualify on all counts. Organizationally, they are evil incarnate. Note that I am not commenting on individual followers of that sect.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run clinics there in Haiti *then any thing supplied by any government inside, or outside- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I see my typing is still lousy. But on a side note, My local congregation has supported two of the five mission groups of our "sect" there for years, One is a clinic. We have heard that the clinic in Port au Prince is damaged but still operational, which is good. |
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Tim wrote:
Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government inside, or outside I'm aware of that, as I have fundie relatives by marriage who have served stints as missionaries in Central and South America. The primary goal of fundamentalist missionaries is to spread "the faith," no matter what else they are doing in those underdeveloped countries. That was the primary goal of my southern baptist "relatives," one of whom worked as a nurse at a clinic and the other who worked as a teacher in a little school. The sickening part was they were working to convert Catholics into protestants. |
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Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 9:53 am, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 16, 9:25 am, HK wrote: Bill McKee wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... I am Tosk wrote: In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@ 21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on admen and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti. www.directrelief.org www.pih.org www.americares.org www.watermissions.org www.savethechildren.org Also the Adventist Foundation Also the Salvation Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788... Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some one for the "Haitian National Relief Fund" , when i heard the typical "boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not, I won't donate over the phone, especially to those who wish credit card info. Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set up in Haiti when The RC is already there? Scotty Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the contributions go to those intended. Red Cross sucks! We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting. There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Today, the Southern Baptists Association are sending two semi truck loads of food and various suplies from a three county area to Florida to be loaded and sent. No offense, but if I were running a foreign country, the last groups I'd let in for any reason are fundamentalist religious organizations, and the southern baptists qualify on all counts. Organizationally, they are evil incarnate. Note that I am not commenting on individual followers of that sect.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government inside, or outside No offense, but only an idiot would belong to any church, and the baptists are the worst church in the world. I hope you were not offended. |
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On Jan 16, 10:41*am, Harry Krause wrote:
Tim wrote: On Jan 16, 9:53 am, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 16, 9:25 am, HK wrote: Bill McKee wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:VfadnZo3MPuhYc3WnZ2dnUVZ_t1i4p2d@giganew s.com... I am Tosk wrote: In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@ 21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on admen and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti. www.directrelief.org www.pih.org www.americares.org www.watermissions.org www.savethechildren.org Also the Adventist Foundation Also the Salvation Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788... Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some one for the "Haitian National Relief *Fund" , when i heard the typical *"boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not, I won't donate over the phone, especially to *those who wish credit card info. Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set up in Haiti when The RC is already there? Scotty Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the contributions go to those intended. Red Cross sucks! We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting. There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Today, the Southern Baptists *Association are sending two semi truck loads of food and various suplies from *a three county *area to Florida to be loaded and sent. No offense, but if I were running a foreign country, the last groups I'd let in for any reason are fundamentalist religious organizations, and the southern baptists qualify on all counts. Organizationally, they are evil incarnate. Note that I am not commenting on individual followers of that sect.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run clinics there in Haiti *then any thing supplied by any government inside, or outside * No offense, but only an idiot would belong to any church, and the baptists are the worst church in the world. I hope you were not offended.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, I'm not offended at all, seeing the church has been ridiculed for the last 2000+ years? Oh yes, over the ages there have been some bums that have acted out evil in "Gods name" but over all, there has been great compassion and humanitarianism that has been spread by "the church" asking for nothing in return. |
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On Jan 16, 10:34*am, "H :) K" wrote:
Tim wrote: Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run clinics there in Haiti *then any thing supplied by any government inside, or outside I'm aware of that, as I have fundie relatives by marriage who have served stints as missionaries in Central and South America. The primary goal of fundamentalist missionaries is to spread "the faith," no matter what else they are doing in those underdeveloped countries. That was the primary goal of my southern baptist "relatives," one of whom worked as a nurse at a clinic and the other who worked as a teacher in a little school. The sickening part was they were working to convert Catholics into protestants. Did they help improve peoples health? Did they teach kids to read? I think that's a bit better than living in desease and ignorance. Now I could agree with your conversion thoughts if the missionaries method of "converting" was forced. I really doubt there was any "forcing" going on. But if you wish to disagree, it's always your right to be critical. |
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On Jan 16, 10:56*am, Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 10:41*am, Harry Krause wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 16, 9:53 am, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 16, 9:25 am, HK wrote: Bill McKee wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:VfadnZo3MPuhYc3WnZ2dnUVZ_t1i4p2d@giganew s.com... I am Tosk wrote: In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@ 21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on admen and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti. www.directrelief.org www.pih.org www.americares.org www.watermissions.org www.savethechildren.org Also the Adventist Foundation Also the Salvation Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788... Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some one for the "Haitian National Relief *Fund" , when i heard the typical *"boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not, I won't donate over the phone, especially to *those who wish credit card info. Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set up in Haiti when The RC is already there? Scotty Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the contributions go to those intended. Red Cross sucks! We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting. There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Today, the Southern Baptists *Association are sending two semi truck loads of food and various suplies from *a three county *area to Florida to be loaded and sent. No offense, but if I were running a foreign country, the last groups I'd let in for any reason are fundamentalist religious organizations, and the southern baptists qualify on all counts. Organizationally, they are evil incarnate. Note that I am not commenting on individual followers of that sect.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run clinics there in Haiti *then any thing supplied by any government inside, or outside * No offense, but only an idiot would belong to any church, and the baptists are the worst church in the world. I hope you were not offended.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, I'm not offended at all, seeing the church has been ridiculed for the last 2000+ years? *Oh yes, over the ages there have been some bums that have acted out evil in "Gods name" but over all, there has been great compassion and humanitarianism that has been spread by "the church" asking for nothing in return.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Here's a snip from an email I recieved two days after the earthquake" "Mr. Shelby said one Illinois Baptist was already scheduled to help provide food for Haiti. "Illinois disaster relief committed some time ago to use one of our semi trucks to transport 20 tons of food to Miami for a Christian relief agency called Hope for the Children of Haiti," Shelby said. ..." So far the donations have been doubled. |
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Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 10:41 am, Harry Krause wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 16, 9:53 am, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 16, 9:25 am, HK wrote: Bill McKee wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... I am Tosk wrote: In article c6885ae7-04aa-4288-ab4c-e093901e1651@ 21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 14, 11:13 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: The 3 charities below spend less than 6% of their contribution on admen and fund raising and can handle the logistics in Haiti. www.directrelief.org www.pih.org www.americares.org www.watermissions.org www.savethechildren.org Also the Adventist Foundation Also the Salvation Armyhttp://www.salvationarmy.org/ihq/www_sa.nsf/vw-news/3BA710B2E3E570788... Those are good with fine reputations. But there's lots of warnings about bogus charities springing up too. I got a call today from some one for the "Haitian National Relief Fund" , when i heard the typical "boiler room" in the background, I hung up. But legit or not, I won't donate over the phone, especially to those who wish credit card info. Red Cross, Salvation Army... Why go anywhere else and pay someone to set up in Haiti when The RC is already there? Scotty Actually the first 4 charities were listed as the best choice for contributing to Haiti by Charity Navigator, because of there strong logistical network already in Haiti, and because greater than 94% of the contributions go to those intended. Red Cross sucks! We sent $600 to Red Cross earmarked For Katrina Aid. Later we found out NONE of it went to the the aforementioned. Red Cross is big business playing on the sympathy and generosity of the unsuspecting. There are plenty of worthy charities that do good work with very little overhead costs. Many of them are religious groups.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Today, the Southern Baptists Association are sending two semi truck loads of food and various suplies from a three county area to Florida to be loaded and sent. No offense, but if I were running a foreign country, the last groups I'd let in for any reason are fundamentalist religious organizations, and the southern baptists qualify on all counts. Organizationally, they are evil incarnate. Note that I am not commenting on individual followers of that sect.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government inside, or outside No offense, but only an idiot would belong to any church, and the baptists are the worst church in the world. I hope you were not offended.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, I'm not offended at all, seeing the church has been ridiculed for the last 2000+ years? Oh yes, over the ages there have been some bums that have acted out evil in "Gods name" but over all, there has been great compassion and humanitarianism that has been spread by "the church" asking for nothing in return. Oh good, I just wanted to know if I could make insulting comments about your beliefs and values, as long as I prefaced it by saying "no offense". |
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Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 10:34 am, "H :) K" wrote: Tim wrote: Burt then again, you're not running a forien coutry, and they have had missionaries there for years. There's probably more mission run clinics there in Haiti then any thing supplied by any government inside, or outside I'm aware of that, as I have fundie relatives by marriage who have served stints as missionaries in Central and South America. The primary goal of fundamentalist missionaries is to spread "the faith," no matter what else they are doing in those underdeveloped countries. That was the primary goal of my southern baptist "relatives," one of whom worked as a nurse at a clinic and the other who worked as a teacher in a little school. The sickening part was they were working to convert Catholics into protestants. Did they help improve peoples health? Did they teach kids to read? I think that's a bit better than living in desease and ignorance. Now I could agree with your conversion thoughts if the missionaries method of "converting" was forced. I really doubt there was any "forcing" going on. But if you wish to disagree, it's always your right to be critical. Those *******s come in, provide free health and education, they smile and are all nicey nicey to the people and then talk about Jesus. Those *******s, if I was dictator of a country, I would not let those son of a bitches in my country. |
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