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On Jan 6, 11:54*am, "Don White" wrote:
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An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

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Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

A five hour flight?

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On Jan 6, 1:48*pm, Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

A five hour flight?

Yes, unless you want to pay through the nose for a non-stop. Most go
to NYC with a layover

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll...ct=1&rfrr=-429

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Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 1:48 pm, Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
A five hour flight?

Yes, unless you want to pay through the nose for a non-stop. Most go
to NYC with a layover

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll...ct=1&rfrr=-429



AirCanada offers round-trip service to Boston with no stops. 2-1/2
hours. Flying is a hassle, because of security and because of the
passengers are crap attitude of the airlines. If there were an overnight
ferry, I'd consider it.

My in-laws come up here on an overnight train from NE Florida. 12-hour
trip. They like it. Includes dinner and a sleeper compartment. No
airport/airline bull****.

**** the airlines.

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Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

A five hour flight?

NO, I think it is a 3 hour tour.

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"Don White" wrote in message
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Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

A five hour flight?

NO, I think it is a 3 hour tour.

Air Canada schedule says flight takes 1.5 hours.

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wrote in message
...
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

This may be a guy trying to cash in on the federal handout for
ferries. There is a guy here who wants to start ferry service from Ft
Myers Beach to Sanibel and he said it was just to get the grant money.
Nobody can really point out the need. The Sanibel folks are saying
"... and then what"? The dock on their end is right in the middle of a
residential area with no services or easy way to get the people to a
tourist area.
Of course Sanibel folks would be happier if everyone who doesn't live
there would just stay home. They tolerate the shops on "Bullwinkle
drive" but they don't want you to go anywhere else.

This could be a replacement for the 'Cat' ferry that was just cancelled
between Yarmouth NS and Portland, Maine
Provincial govt' got tired of subsidizing that to the tune of millions each
year.

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Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
A five hour flight?
NO, I think it is a 3 hour tour.

Air Canada schedule says flight takes 1.5 hours.




Not for flajim...he's on the no fly list. After all, why would he need a
fly when he's got nothing to take out of it.

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"Harry" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
A five hour flight?
NO, I think it is a 3 hour tour.

Air Canada schedule says flight takes 1.5 hours.


Not for flajim...he's on the no fly list. After all, why would he need a
fly when he's got nothing to take out of it.

He'd never fly here for sure.
We have new equipment coming in that would highlight his short comings.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/1160903.html

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Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
A five hour flight?
NO, I think it is a 3 hour tour.

Air Canada schedule says flight takes 1.5 hours.


Mr Don Spoofer, are you a ****ing idiot or what? By the time you
drive to the airport, arrive 2 hrs before flight to get through
security, pick up your luggage, you are way beyond 3 hrs, probably
approaching 5 hrs, but if you were not so dumb, you would have realized
that my post had nothing to do with the time it takes to go from one
place to another, and was a joke about Gilligan's Island and their 3
hour tour.

You really are an idiot, did you start drinking before puberty, and were
you a AFS baby? It would make more sense than you are just brain dead

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Don White wrote:
"Harry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
A five hour flight?
NO, I think it is a 3 hour tour.
Air Canada schedule says flight takes 1.5 hours.

Not for flajim...he's on the no fly list. After all, why would he need a
fly when he's got nothing to take out of it.

He'd never fly here for sure.
We have new equipment coming in that would highlight his short comings.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/1160903.html



YOu and the Harry spoofer really seemed to be infatuated with the size
of guys dicks.

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
A five hour flight?
NO, I think it is a 3 hour tour.

Air Canada schedule says flight takes 1.5 hours.
Mr Don Spoofer, are you a ****ing idiot or what? By the time you drive
to the airport, arrive 2 hrs before flight to get through security, pick
up your luggage, you are way beyond 3 hrs, probably approaching 5 hrs, but
if you were not so dumb, you would have realized that my post had nothing
to do with the time it takes to go from one place to another, and was a
joke about Gilligan's Island and their 3 hour tour.

You really are an idiot, did you start drinking before puberty, and were
you a AFS baby? It would make more sense than you are just brain dead

I'm going to have to call Margaret and ask her to take your sorry ass back
to work. I realize things are probably slow at Elite, but she has to do
something.
Your stench is ruining this newsgroup.

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"Loogypicker" wrote in message
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On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

But you can't take your car on the plane.

--Mike

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wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

This may be a guy trying to cash in on the federal handout for
ferries. There is a guy here who wants to start ferry service from Ft
Myers Beach to Sanibel and he said it was just to get the grant money.
Nobody can really point out the need. The Sanibel folks are saying
"... and then what"? The dock on their end is right in the middle of a
residential area with no services or easy way to get the people to a
tourist area.
Of course Sanibel folks would be happier if everyone who doesn't live
there would just stay home. They tolerate the shops on "Bullwinkle
drive" but they don't want you to go anywhere else.

My paternal grandparents used to own 2 units at Sanibel Arms (I think that's
the place) 30 years ago. Those were fun vacations. Unfortunately, they sold
them before they passed, so there was nothing to hand down.

I certainly don't see the need for a ferry when you can already drive there.

--Mike

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On 06/01/2010 12:31 PM, Harry wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 1:48 pm, Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
A five hour flight?

Yes, unless you want to pay through the nose for a non-stop. Most go
to NYC with a layover

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll...ct=1&rfrr=-429




AirCanada offers round-trip service to Boston with no stops. 2-1/2
hours. Flying is a hassle, because of security and because of the
passengers are crap attitude of the airlines. If there were an overnight
ferry, I'd consider it.

You mean this AirCanada? And this didn't just happen once...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

I have other reasons, but I will not fly with them. Used to be
government and it still shows.

My in-laws come up here on an overnight train from NE Florida. 12-hour
trip. They like it. Includes dinner and a sleeper compartment. No
airport/airline bull****.

**** the airlines.

Agreed. I wonder when they say it is a safe way to travel, do they
factor in the hospital and clinic visits after being exposed to one of
the biological filthiest vehicles of transporation going short of a
waste removal truck?

Just ask a doctor what to watch for after being on a flight.

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

A five hour flight?

Maybe after you figure in all the flying BS. Is an hour 15 minute flight
from the bay area to LAX. By the time you figure in the trip to the
airport, the parking and waiting for a shuttle, and the 1.5 hr minimum
time for checkin you may be looking at 4 hours.


That's exactly why we decided to drive to Disneyland instead of fly come
April. It'll cost us about 2 more hours and save over $1000.

--Mike

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"mgg" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

A five hour flight?

Maybe after you figure in all the flying BS. Is an hour 15 minute flight
from the bay area to LAX. By the time you figure in the trip to the
airport, the parking and waiting for a shuttle, and the 1.5 hr minimum
time for checkin you may be looking at 4 hours.


That's exactly why we decided to drive to Disneyland instead of fly come
April. It'll cost us about 2 more hours and save over $1000.

--Mike


When my older daughter graduated from Long Beach State. We spent the night
at a hotel by LAX to fly home the next morning. Younger daughter stayed
there also and was driving home. She slept in and we went to the airport
for find our SWA flight delayed. When we were turning corner to our house,
out daughter was driving up the street. 5 hour airline delay.

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On Jan 6, 2:31*pm, Harry wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 1:48 pm, Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
A five hour flight?

Yes, unless you want to pay through the nose for a non-stop. Most go
to NYC with a layover

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll...ity1=Halifax%2...

AirCanada offers round-trip service to Boston with no stops. 2-1/2
hours. Flying is a hassle, because of security and because of the
passengers are crap attitude of the airlines. If there were an overnight
ferry, I'd consider it.

My in-laws come up here on an overnight train from NE Florida. 12-hour
trip. They like it. Includes dinner and a sleeper compartment. No
airport/airline bull****.

**** the airlines.

Did you ever figure in getting to the airport, checking baggage, being
at the gate 30 minutes minimum ahead of schedule, probable overbooking
therefore delay in offering passengers another flight, getting your
baggage at the other end, and on and on? That will make it 5 hours
easy.

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On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Jan 6, 11:54*am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

Five hours at six hundred MPH is three thousand miles. Your 20 MPH
ferry will take more than a week.

Casady

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Richard Casady wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

Five hours at six hundred MPH is three thousand miles. Your 20 MPH
ferry will take more than a week.

Casady

The trip under discussion is 700 miles.

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On Jan 7, 10:19*am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker

wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

Five hours at six hundred MPH is three thousand miles. Your 20 MPH
ferry will take more than a week.

Casady

So do you think that as soon as you arrive at an airport you are
instantly transported at 600 mph to your destination and then
teleported to your hotel? You have to get to the airport with enough
time to check your baggage, then be at your gate a minimum of 45
minutes to an hour before your flight, get on the plane, plan on it
being overbooked so they have to take the time to try to get
passengers to take a later flight, taxi, take off, get delayed because
of sequencing into a large airport, land, taxi, get off at your gate,
get your luggage, then leave.

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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:49:11 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Jan 7, 10:19*am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker

wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

Five hours at six hundred MPH is three thousand miles. Your 20 MPH
ferry will take more than a week.

Casady

So do you think that as soon as you arrive at an airport you are
instantly transported at 600 mph to your destination and then
teleported to your hotel? You have to get to the airport with enough
time to check your baggage, then be at your gate a minimum of 45
minutes to an hour before your flight, get on the plane, plan on it
being overbooked so they have to take the time to try to get
passengers to take a later flight, taxi, take off, get delayed because
of sequencing into a large airport, land, taxi, get off at your gate,
get your luggage, then leave.

Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.

Casady

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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:44:46 -0500, Jim wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

Five hours at six hundred MPH is three thousand miles. Your 20 MPH
ferry will take more than a week.

Casady

The trip under discussion is 700 miles.

About an hour and a half flying time. Not trip time, flying time.
Started writing flying time in log books in 1964. It never did include
all the time hanging around the airport. I have a special [several
actually] slide rule for calculating flying time and it never heard of
waiting for luggage anywhere, although it actually does correct for
coriolis, not to mention the lies airspeed indicators are subject to.
I can believe overnight, as in a day and a half, for a ferry. Last
ferry I was on burned coal and had pistons, but it was that fast.[SS
Badger].

Casady

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On Jan 7, 3:21*pm, Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:49:11 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Jan 7, 10:19 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker

wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html

An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?

Five hours at six hundred MPH is three thousand miles. Your 20 MPH
ferry will take more than a week.

Casady

So do you think that as soon as you arrive at an airport you are
instantly transported at 600 mph to your destination and then
teleported to your hotel? You have to get to the airport with enough
time to check your baggage, then be at your gate a minimum of 45
minutes to an hour before your flight, get on the plane, plan on it
being overbooked so they have to take the time to try to get
passengers to take a later flight, taxi, take off, get delayed because
of sequencing into a large airport, land, taxi, get off at your gate,
get your luggage, then leave.

Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.

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Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 7, 3:21 pm, Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:49:11 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Jan 7, 10:19 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
Five hours at six hundred MPH is three thousand miles. Your 20 MPH
ferry will take more than a week.
Casady
So do you think that as soon as you arrive at an airport you are
instantly transported at 600 mph to your destination and then
teleported to your hotel? You have to get to the airport with enough
time to check your baggage, then be at your gate a minimum of 45
minutes to an hour before your flight, get on the plane, plan on it
being overbooked so they have to take the time to try to get
passengers to take a later flight, taxi, take off, get delayed because
of sequencing into a large airport, land, taxi, get off at your gate,
get your luggage, then leave.
Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.

Why didn't you state that it would take 5 hours out of your day to go on
a 1 1/2 hour flight if you take into account all the diddle around time
before and after the 1 1/2 hour flight. You said it was a 5 hour flight
and you were wrong wrong wrong. Admit it.

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Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 7, 3:21 pm, Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:49:11 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Jan 7, 10:19 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
Five hours at six hundred MPH is three thousand miles. Your 20 MPH
ferry will take more than a week.
Casady
So do you think that as soon as you arrive at an airport you are
instantly transported at 600 mph to your destination and then
teleported to your hotel? You have to get to the airport with enough
time to check your baggage, then be at your gate a minimum of 45
minutes to an hour before your flight, get on the plane, plan on it
being overbooked so they have to take the time to try to get
passengers to take a later flight, taxi, take off, get delayed because
of sequencing into a large airport, land, taxi, get off at your gate,
get your luggage, then leave.
Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.

Why didn't you state that it would take 5 hours out of your day to go on
a 1 1/2 hour flight if you take into account all the diddle around time
before and after the 1 1/2 hour flight. You said it was a 5 hour flight
and you were wrong wrong wrong. Admit it.


You have to admit I am the biggest child in this newsgroup.

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Harry said:
You have to admit I am the biggest child in this newsgroup.

Sad but true. How can we help?

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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:51:19 -0500, Jim wrote:

Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 7, 3:21 pm, Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:49:11 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Jan 7, 10:19 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
Five hours at six hundred MPH is three thousand miles. Your 20 MPH
ferry will take more than a week.
Casady
So do you think that as soon as you arrive at an airport you are
instantly transported at 600 mph to your destination and then
teleported to your hotel? You have to get to the airport with enough
time to check your baggage, then be at your gate a minimum of 45
minutes to an hour before your flight, get on the plane, plan on it
being overbooked so they have to take the time to try to get
passengers to take a later flight, taxi, take off, get delayed because
of sequencing into a large airport, land, taxi, get off at your gate,
get your luggage, then leave.
Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.

Why didn't you state that it would take 5 hours out of your day to go on
a 1 1/2 hour flight if you take into account all the diddle around time
before and after the 1 1/2 hour flight. You said it was a 5 hour flight
and you were wrong wrong wrong. Admit it.


You have to admit I am the biggest child in this newsgroup.

Harry finally made a true statement about himself.

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John H wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:51:19 -0500, Jim wrote:

Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 7, 3:21 pm, Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:49:11 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Jan 7, 10:19 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
Five hours at six hundred MPH is three thousand miles. Your 20 MPH
ferry will take more than a week.
Casady
So do you think that as soon as you arrive at an airport you are
instantly transported at 600 mph to your destination and then
teleported to your hotel? You have to get to the airport with enough
time to check your baggage, then be at your gate a minimum of 45
minutes to an hour before your flight, get on the plane, plan on it
being overbooked so they have to take the time to try to get
passengers to take a later flight, taxi, take off, get delayed because
of sequencing into a large airport, land, taxi, get off at your gate,
get your luggage, then leave.
Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.
Why didn't you state that it would take 5 hours out of your day to go on
a 1 1/2 hour flight if you take into account all the diddle around time
before and after the 1 1/2 hour flight. You said it was a 5 hour flight
and you were wrong wrong wrong. Admit it.

You have to admit I am the biggest child in this newsgroup.

Harry finally made a true statement about himself.



ACtually, I, jim, made that statement about myself. I'm such a fool.

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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:30:36 -0500, Jim wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:51:19 -0500, Jim wrote:

Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 7, 3:21 pm, Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:49:11 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Jan 7, 10:19 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
Five hours at six hundred MPH is three thousand miles. Your 20 MPH
ferry will take more than a week.
Casady
So do you think that as soon as you arrive at an airport you are
instantly transported at 600 mph to your destination and then
teleported to your hotel? You have to get to the airport with enough
time to check your baggage, then be at your gate a minimum of 45
minutes to an hour before your flight, get on the plane, plan on it
being overbooked so they have to take the time to try to get
passengers to take a later flight, taxi, take off, get delayed because
of sequencing into a large airport, land, taxi, get off at your gate,
get your luggage, then leave.
Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.
Why didn't you state that it would take 5 hours out of your day to go on
a 1 1/2 hour flight if you take into account all the diddle around time
before and after the 1 1/2 hour flight. You said it was a 5 hour flight
and you were wrong wrong wrong. Admit it.

You have to admit I am the biggest child in this newsgroup.

Harry finally made a true statement about himself.



ACtually, I, jim, made that statement about myself. I'm such a fool.

Harry, you got the last part right.

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John H wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:51:19 -0500, Jim wrote:

Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 7, 3:21 pm, Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:49:11 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Jan 7, 10:19 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1160855.html
An overnight trip on a ferry is an alternative to a five hour flight?
Five hours at six hundred MPH is three thousand miles. Your 20 MPH
ferry will take more than a week.
Casady
So do you think that as soon as you arrive at an airport you are
instantly transported at 600 mph to your destination and then
teleported to your hotel? You have to get to the airport with enough
time to check your baggage, then be at your gate a minimum of 45
minutes to an hour before your flight, get on the plane, plan on it
being overbooked so they have to take the time to try to get
passengers to take a later flight, taxi, take off, get delayed because
of sequencing into a large airport, land, taxi, get off at your gate,
get your luggage, then leave.
Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.
Why didn't you state that it would take 5 hours out of your day to go on
a 1 1/2 hour flight if you take into account all the diddle around time
before and after the 1 1/2 hour flight. You said it was a 5 hour flight
and you were wrong wrong wrong. Admit it.

You have to admit I am the biggest child in this newsgroup.

Harry finally made a true statement about himself.

Agreed.
We should stand aside and let him play for a while till he gets himself
up to speed.

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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:00:37 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.

There is a perfectly good phrase known as " trip time " which you
think is called " flying time ". It is not. You are plain ignorant.
Period.

Casady

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Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:00:37 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.

There is a perfectly good phrase known as " trip time " which you
think is called " flying time ". It is not. You are plain ignorant.
Period.

Casady


Too much "trip time" these days in flying commercial. Seems to be far
fewer direct, 0-stop cross countries. Chicago seems to be the fastest
for one-stoppers to the left coast. Minneapolis is just plain awful
because of the tremendous distances between the different sections/gates
at the terminal. Detroit, surprisingly, is pretty good, too, and has
some unusual restaurants.

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On Jan 9, 10:39*am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:00:37 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker

wrote:
Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.

There is a perfectly good phrase known as " trip time " which you
think is called " flying time ". It is not. You are plain ignorant.
Period.

Casady

I'm "ignorant"? First of all, you can quit being as ass and show me
where I ever differentiated between "trip time" and "flight time". It
will take five hours out of your life. Period. If you don't think the
time wasted is relevant, you certainly shouldn't be calling others
ignorant.

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Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 9, 10:39 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:00:37 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker

wrote:
Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.
Casady- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.
There is a perfectly good phrase known as " trip time " which you
think is called " flying time ". It is not. You are plain ignorant.
Period.

Casady

I'm "ignorant"? First of all, you can quit being as ass and show me
where I ever differentiated between "trip time" and "flight time". It
will take five hours out of your life. Period. If you don't think the
time wasted is relevant, you certainly shouldn't be calling others
ignorant.

You didn't. That is what he is trying to get across to you.

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On Jan 9, 12:51*pm, Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 9, 10:39 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:00:37 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker

wrote:
Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.
Casady- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.
There is a perfectly good phrase known as " trip time " which you
think is called " flying time ". It is not. You are plain ignorant.
Period.

Casady

I'm "ignorant"? First of all, you can quit being as ass and show me
where I ever differentiated between "trip time" and "flight time". It
will take five hours out of your life. Period. If you don't think the
time wasted is relevant, you certainly shouldn't be calling others
ignorant.

You didn't. That is what he is trying to get across to you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Damned right I didn't. Again, the friggin' time spent at the airport
is part and parcel. That time comes right out of your life. It's
absolutely silly to think that that time doesn't somehow count.

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"Loogypicker" wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:51 pm, Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 9, 10:39 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:00:37 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker

wrote:
Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.
Casady- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.
There is a perfectly good phrase known as " trip time " which you
think is called " flying time ". It is not. You are plain ignorant.
Period.

Casady

I'm "ignorant"? First of all, you can quit being as ass and show me
where I ever differentiated between "trip time" and "flight time". It
will take five hours out of your life. Period. If you don't think the
time wasted is relevant, you certainly shouldn't be calling others
ignorant.

You didn't. That is what he is trying to get across to you.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Damned right I didn't. Again, the friggin' time spent at the airport
is part and parcel. That time comes right out of your life. It's
absolutely silly to think that that time doesn't somehow count.


I don't really mind it unless the delay is long and unexpected. I had one of
those a couple of years ago, and the airline was very nice about it. They
flew us From Los Angeles to Palm Springs for the weekend no charge (we
stayed with old friends), then put us on a flight to Frankfurt 1st class.

I like to people-watch, and my friend and I make up stories about the people
we see. It really helps to pass the time.

--
Nom=de=Plume

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Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 9, 12:51 pm, Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 9, 10:39 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:00:37 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:
Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.
Casady- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.
There is a perfectly good phrase known as " trip time " which you
think is called " flying time ". It is not. You are plain ignorant.
Period.
Casady
I'm "ignorant"? First of all, you can quit being as ass and show me
where I ever differentiated between "trip time" and "flight time". It
will take five hours out of your life. Period. If you don't think the
time wasted is relevant, you certainly shouldn't be calling others
ignorant.
You didn't. That is what he is trying to get across to you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Damned right I didn't. Again, the friggin' time spent at the airport
is part and parcel. That time comes right out of your life. It's
absolutely silly to think that that time doesn't somehow count.

Damn right it counts, but not as flight time.

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On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 09:42:22 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Jan 9, 10:39*am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:00:37 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker

wrote:
Flight time is the time the plane is off the ground, just the obvious
Any pilot will tell you that. They all have to write down flight time
in a log book, and it sure as hell doesn't include time retrieving
luggage. Or sitting on your butt in the terminal. I started writing
down flight time in 1964.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So.....you don't consider the time spent at the airport as relevant? I
do, because it IS time, there is no time warp, and it is time taken
out of my day. Period.

There is a perfectly good phrase known as " trip time " which you
think is called " flying time ". It is not. You are plain ignorant.
Period.

Casady

I'm "ignorant"? First of all, you can quit being as ass and show me
where I ever differentiated between "trip time" and "flight time". It
will take five hours out of your life. Period. If you don't think the
time wasted is relevant, you certainly shouldn't be calling others
ignorant.

The subject is and has been flight time. You can have any other kind
of time you want. By all means count the time spend packing your bags
the night before. If you want to abuse the language and ignore the
standard meanings of words, go for it. We are all laughing at you.

Casady