Leave it in or Take it out??
 

My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone have any
advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled prior to
Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

Art

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

GOD might!


"Art's Mail" wrote in message
.net...
My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone have
any
advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled prior
to
Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

Art

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

I assume this is a big boat (over 30+ feet)
Boat is better in the water UNLESS
-you have a hurricane proof shed or other protected land storage OR
-if the boat is in OPEN water area where waves would damage it OR
-if piles are short where the boat would ride over them if the surge
goes up or the piles are weak and would tear away. (I know of several
boats in the bahamas that rode up inthe surge and landed on their piles
and sunk)
why? A boat on supports is very easy to tip over even if you double up
the supports.

If you are leaving it in the water:
-use every cleat you have and attach to every pile or cleat or TREE
available with LONG Lines (Typically the whole length of the boat) so
the surge will not sink the boat.
-Double all critical lines AND USE HOSES (or other chafe protection)
AROUND THEM AT THE CHAFE POINTS. (a friend of mine had a NEW 3/4" nylon
line part last weekend in 12 hours in 25-30 kt wind in Bimini)
-remove outriggers and lower antennas
-remove canvas (they act like sails) or secure it best you can and hope
for the best.
-Shut off ALL DC except for the pumps. If you have an AC-DC fridge...
EMPTY IT and shut off the DC breaker. (When AC goes out.... DC will
kill batteries and sink boat)
-I leave battery charger connected so I have full power to the batts
until the AC power goes out on it's own.
-If you are on a narrow canal with little or no traffic, consider tying
up in the middle of the canal across both sides
-If all your pumps are connected to one battery I would split them up OR
if both batteries are good, put parrallel switch to BOTH.
-Set your anchor with a 12:1 scope to windward. If you have TWO set
them both at 45' angles on different cleats. (this is VERY helpful if
you have no dolphins... set them both seaward)
-Lots of fenders although your should count on dolphins and anchors to
protect, not fenders.
-FINAL RULE.... HELP YOUR NEIGHBORS TIE UP THIER BOATS EVEN IF THEY ARE
NOT ARROUND... WHY? SO THEY WON'T LAND ON YOUR BOAT.

Good luck.... I live in FLL and we just dodged the bullet... hope you do
as well.


Ed






GAZ wrote:
GOD might!


"Art's Mail" wrote in message
.net...

My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone have

any

advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled prior

to

Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

Art

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

It's insured right?


"Art's Mail" wrote in message
.net...
My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone have
any
advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled prior
to
Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

Art

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

yes - I was thinking about calling the ins co. and see what they prefer.

"Woodchuck" wrote in message
...
It's insured right?


"Art's Mail" wrote in message
.net...
My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone have
any
advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled prior
to
Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

Art

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

What steps should be taken if the boat is kept on a trailer?
I have a 25' Baja I keep on the trailer, I don't know what to do if a storm
approached me.

"Ed" wrote in message ...
I assume this is a big boat (over 30+ feet)
Boat is better in the water UNLESS
-you have a hurricane proof shed or other protected land storage OR
-if the boat is in OPEN water area where waves would damage it OR
-if piles are short where the boat would ride over them if the surge
goes up or the piles are weak and would tear away. (I know of several
boats in the bahamas that rode up inthe surge and landed on their piles
and sunk)
why? A boat on supports is very easy to tip over even if you double up
the supports.

If you are leaving it in the water:
-use every cleat you have and attach to every pile or cleat or TREE
available with LONG Lines (Typically the whole length of the boat) so
the surge will not sink the boat.
-Double all critical lines AND USE HOSES (or other chafe protection)
AROUND THEM AT THE CHAFE POINTS. (a friend of mine had a NEW 3/4" nylon
line part last weekend in 12 hours in 25-30 kt wind in Bimini)
-remove outriggers and lower antennas
-remove canvas (they act like sails) or secure it best you can and hope
for the best.
-Shut off ALL DC except for the pumps. If you have an AC-DC fridge...
EMPTY IT and shut off the DC breaker. (When AC goes out.... DC will
kill batteries and sink boat)
-I leave battery charger connected so I have full power to the batts
until the AC power goes out on it's own.
-If you are on a narrow canal with little or no traffic, consider tying
up in the middle of the canal across both sides
-If all your pumps are connected to one battery I would split them up OR
if both batteries are good, put parrallel switch to BOTH.
-Set your anchor with a 12:1 scope to windward. If you have TWO set
them both at 45' angles on different cleats. (this is VERY helpful if
you have no dolphins... set them both seaward)
-Lots of fenders although your should count on dolphins and anchors to
protect, not fenders.
-FINAL RULE.... HELP YOUR NEIGHBORS TIE UP THIER BOATS EVEN IF THEY ARE
NOT ARROUND... WHY? SO THEY WON'T LAND ON YOUR BOAT.

Good luck.... I live in FLL and we just dodged the bullet... hope you do
as well.


Ed






GAZ wrote:
GOD might!


"Art's Mail" wrote in message
.net...

My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone have

any

advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled prior

to

Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

Art

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

"Kevin Anderson" wrote in message
.net...
What steps should be taken if the boat is kept on a trailer?
I have a 25' Baja I keep on the trailer, I don't know what to do if a
storm
approached me.


I fill mine with water and tie it to the ground with 4 mobile home anchors.

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

"Kevin Anderson" wrote in message
.net...
What steps should be taken if the boat is kept on a trailer?
I have a 25' Baja I keep on the trailer, I don't know what to do if a
storm
approached me.


If the storm doesn't change course, I'll tow the Parker on her trailer
to ground higher than any possible storm surge, probably my driveway,
and park her away from any trees. I've got two 50' lengths of 3/4" rope,
which I might run across the boat and tie to some heavy duty ground stakes.

--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

Art's Mail wrote:
My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone have any
advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled prior to
Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

Art




Are you trying to impress Isabelle?

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

Take everything out and fill it with water.

--


Keith
__
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
"Kevin Anderson" wrote in message
.net...
What steps should be taken if the boat is kept on a trailer?
I have a 25' Baja I keep on the trailer, I don't know what to do if a
storm
approached me.

"Ed" wrote in message ...
I assume this is a big boat (over 30+ feet)
Boat is better in the water UNLESS
-you have a hurricane proof shed or other protected land storage OR
-if the boat is in OPEN water area where waves would damage it OR
-if piles are short where the boat would ride over them if the surge
goes up or the piles are weak and would tear away. (I know of several
boats in the bahamas that rode up inthe surge and landed on their piles
and sunk)
why? A boat on supports is very easy to tip over even if you double up
the supports.

If you are leaving it in the water:
-use every cleat you have and attach to every pile or cleat or TREE
available with LONG Lines (Typically the whole length of the boat) so
the surge will not sink the boat.
-Double all critical lines AND USE HOSES (or other chafe protection)
AROUND THEM AT THE CHAFE POINTS. (a friend of mine had a NEW 3/4" nylon
line part last weekend in 12 hours in 25-30 kt wind in Bimini)
-remove outriggers and lower antennas
-remove canvas (they act like sails) or secure it best you can and hope
for the best.
-Shut off ALL DC except for the pumps. If you have an AC-DC fridge...
EMPTY IT and shut off the DC breaker. (When AC goes out.... DC will
kill batteries and sink boat)
-I leave battery charger connected so I have full power to the batts
until the AC power goes out on it's own.
-If you are on a narrow canal with little or no traffic, consider tying
up in the middle of the canal across both sides
-If all your pumps are connected to one battery I would split them up OR
if both batteries are good, put parrallel switch to BOTH.
-Set your anchor with a 12:1 scope to windward. If you have TWO set
them both at 45' angles on different cleats. (this is VERY helpful if
you have no dolphins... set them both seaward)
-Lots of fenders although your should count on dolphins and anchors to
protect, not fenders.
-FINAL RULE.... HELP YOUR NEIGHBORS TIE UP THIER BOATS EVEN IF THEY ARE
NOT ARROUND... WHY? SO THEY WON'T LAND ON YOUR BOAT.

Good luck.... I live in FLL and we just dodged the bullet... hope you do
as well.


Ed






GAZ wrote:
GOD might!


"Art's Mail" wrote in message
.net...

My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone
have

any

advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled
prior

to

Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

Art

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:41:17 GMT, "Art's Mail" wrote:

My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone have any
advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled prior to
Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

Art



Art, as someone else mentioned, you didn't say what size the boat is.
If it's trailerable, that gives you some options to wait-and-see where
this 'caines going.

Current forecast puts it ashore in N/S Carolina, heading for Western
NY. This could chnge.

noah

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

I'm in S. Florida and they tell us specifically NOT to do that. Even if you
*could* get 1000 gallons of water in your boat if you are close enough to the
storm it won't make any difference aside from adding to the weight of the
tumbling mess. You might also want to consider what damage that would cause to
anything inside the boat you can't remove as well as the added weight on the
trailer. Take another look at the small areas the boat actually rests on the
trailer and think about what another 3,000 to 6,000 pounds will do.

Another common myth is that you should throw all of your lawn furniture into
your (inground) pool. Evidently a storm like that will pull the furniture out
and still send it flying.

We hear it every year at the beginning of the "season".

Good luck,
Dan


Keith wrote:
Take everything out and fill it with water.

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

http://www.boatus.com/ has a hurricane prep section on their page.
Bill

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I'm in S. Florida and they tell us specifically NOT to do that. Even if
you
*could* get 1000 gallons of water in your boat if you are close enough to
the
storm it won't make any difference aside from adding to the weight of the
tumbling mess. You might also want to consider what damage that would
cause to
anything inside the boat you can't remove as well as the added weight on
the
trailer. Take another look at the small areas the boat actually rests on
the
trailer and think about what another 3,000 to 6,000 pounds will do.

Another common myth is that you should throw all of your lawn furniture
into
your (inground) pool. Evidently a storm like that will pull the furniture
out
and still send it flying.

We hear it every year at the beginning of the "season".

Good luck,
Dan


Keith wrote:
Take everything out and fill it with water.

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:41:17 GMT, "Art's Mail" wrote:

My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone have any
advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled prior to
Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

I'm in the same boat as you are, tied up in a slip in a south jersey
marina. I just got a call from my marina saying people are pulling
their boats and and asking what I want to do. Unfortunately, mine is
not trailerable and if I pull it out, it's just going to be sitting on
the hard somewhere down the on the jersey shore. That's probably more
vulnerable then being in the water.

Is yours trailerable? Can you get it somewhere safe in time? If so,
then I'd pull it out. If not, leave it in and pray it doesn't hit S.
Jersey that bad.

Steve

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone have any
advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled prior to
Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

I'm in the same boat as you are, tied up in a slip in a south jersey
marina. I just got a call from my marina saying people are pulling
their boats and and asking what I want to do. Unfortunately, mine is
not trailerable and if I pull it out, it's just going to be sitting on
the hard somewhere down the on the jersey shore. That's probably more
vulnerable then being in the water.

Is yours trailerable? Can you get it somewhere safe in time? If so,
then I'd pull it out. If not, leave it in and pray it doesn't hit S.
Jersey that bad.

Steve







Don't forget that lots of damage can be caused by the high tides that come with
the storm. You better have someone close by that can check on the boat and
adjust the lines if you plan on leaving it in the water. Keep an eye on where
the tide is as the hurricane approaches.

We had tides 15 to 20 feet above normal when Hurricane Andrew hit. I have first
hand knowledge of a 37 ft sailboat that pulled up four pilings and ended up 20
feet up on a pool deck.

Barry

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

On 16 Sep 2003 21:03:49 GMT, ospam (F330 GT) wrote:

My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone have any
advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled prior to
Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

I'm in the same boat as you are, tied up in a slip in a south jersey
marina. I just got a call from my marina saying people are pulling
their boats and and asking what I want to do. Unfortunately, mine is
not trailerable and if I pull it out, it's just going to be sitting on
the hard somewhere down the on the jersey shore. That's probably more
vulnerable then being in the water.

Is yours trailerable? Can you get it somewhere safe in time? If so,
then I'd pull it out. If not, leave it in and pray it doesn't hit S.
Jersey that bad.

Steve







Don't forget that lots of damage can be caused by the high tides that come with
the storm. You better have someone close by that can check on the boat and
adjust the lines if you plan on leaving it in the water. Keep an eye on where
the tide is as the hurricane approaches.

We had tides 15 to 20 feet above normal when Hurricane Andrew hit. I have first
hand knowledge of a 37 ft sailboat that pulled up four pilings and ended up 20
feet up on a pool deck.

I just got back from moving my boat to a more secure slip, doubling and
tripling up the dock lines, setting extra spring lines, etc. It looks
like it won't be that bad down in South Jersey. But I do know that a
lot of people did bring their boats up to Philly. The storm surge is
supposed to be at least 12 feet with this one. But that's only ahead of
the center. Out on the edges, it won't be as bad. I'm tied off to
floating docks and it would have to get pretty high for the floating
docks to float off the pilings. 12 feet would do it though, no problem.
But I don't think that's going to happen this time in S Jersey.

Steve

Leave it in or Take it out??
 

I just got back from the marina myself. As you said, it doesn't look like it
is going to be that bad in south jersey. I made the decision to leave my 35
footer in the water. I dropped the canvas, doubled up on all lines and also
added an additional spring line and some extra fenders. I figure I can
withstand a 6' rise in tide before the pilings start pulling out or the boat
starts going under:-) If we do get a 6' rise the boat would have come close
to floating off the blocks anyway so that's why I left it in, figured my
chances were just as good. Besides, I'll get some more use out of the boat
this way since boating season just started.

Thanks to all for the advice and hope everyone makes it through this one.

Art

"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 16 Sep 2003 21:03:49 GMT, ospam (F330 GT) wrote:

My boat is tied up in a slip in a south jersey marina - does anyone
have any
advice on whether I should leave it in the water or have it pulled
prior to
Isabelle's arrival? I've heard two schools of thought on the subject.

I'm in the same boat as you are, tied up in a slip in a south jersey
marina. I just got a call from my marina saying people are pulling
their boats and and asking what I want to do. Unfortunately, mine is
not trailerable and if I pull it out, it's just going to be sitting on
the hard somewhere down the on the jersey shore. That's probably more
vulnerable then being in the water.

Is yours trailerable? Can you get it somewhere safe in time? If so,
then I'd pull it out. If not, leave it in and pray it doesn't hit S.
Jersey that bad.

Steve







Don't forget that lots of damage can be caused by the high tides that
come with
the storm. You better have someone close by that can check on the boat
and
adjust the lines if you plan on leaving it in the water. Keep an eye on
where
the tide is as the hurricane approaches.

We had tides 15 to 20 feet above normal when Hurricane Andrew hit. I have
first
hand knowledge of a 37 ft sailboat that pulled up four pilings and ended
up 20
feet up on a pool deck.

I just got back from moving my boat to a more secure slip, doubling and
tripling up the dock lines, setting extra spring lines, etc. It looks
like it won't be that bad down in South Jersey. But I do know that a
lot of people did bring their boats up to Philly. The storm surge is
supposed to be at least 12 feet with this one. But that's only ahead of
the center. Out on the edges, it won't be as bad. I'm tied off to
floating docks and it would have to get pretty high for the floating
docks to float off the pilings. 12 feet would do it though, no problem.
But I don't think that's going to happen this time in S Jersey.

Steve