Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page

Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a
stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the
scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle
Association.

This round, let's listen to Luntz:

Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A.
members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the
alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat
rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of
N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that
invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements.

Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to
suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69
percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing
federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies.

So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed,
favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea
to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how
reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by
propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun
lobby.

Posted by SusanG at Kos.

jps wrote:
Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page

Posted by SusanG at Kos.


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"jps" wrote in message
...

Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page

Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a
stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the
scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle
Association.

This round, let's listen to Luntz:

Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A.
members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the
alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat
rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of
N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that
invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements.

Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to
suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69
percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing
federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies.

So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed,
favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea
to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how
reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by
propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun
lobby.

Posted by SusanG at Kos.

A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun
manufacturers.
Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep
firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc.

Don White wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page

Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a
stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the
scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle
Association.

This round, let's listen to Luntz:

Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A.
members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the
alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat
rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of
N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that
invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements.

Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to
suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69
percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing
federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies.

So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed,
favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea
to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how
reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by
propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun
lobby.

Posted by SusanG at Kos.

A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun
manufacturers.
Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep
firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc.



We have fairly stringent regs in Maryland. We have the federal "instant
check," of course, but we also have a state police check and a 10-day
waiting period for the purchase of handguns. It should also apply to
long guns, but it doesn't.

All this is made moot, though, by the fact that anyone, even someone
from out of state, can buy rifles and pistols at gun shows in Virginia
without any checks, thanks to the so-called gun show loophole. And
anyone includes retards like JustHate and psychos like Froggy.

"Harry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page

Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a
stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the
scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle
Association.

This round, let's listen to Luntz:

Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A.
members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the
alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat
rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of
N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that
invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements.

Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to
suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69
percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing
federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies.

So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed,
favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea
to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how
reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by
propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun
lobby.

Posted by SusanG at Kos.

A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun
manufacturers.
Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to
keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people
etc.



We have fairly stringent regs in Maryland. We have the federal "instant
check," of course, but we also have a state police check and a 10-day
waiting period for the purchase of handguns. It should also apply to long
guns, but it doesn't.

All this is made moot, though, by the fact that anyone, even someone from
out of state, can buy rifles and pistols at gun shows in Virginia without
any checks, thanks to the so-called gun show loophole. And anyone includes
retards like JustHate and psychos like Froggy.


That is darn scary...... the whole USA should be under Federal Gun Laws....
no cherry picking for the most lax laws.

Don White wrote:
"Harry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page

Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a
stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the
scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle
Association.

This round, let's listen to Luntz:

Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A.
members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the
alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat
rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of
N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that
invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements.

Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to
suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69
percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing
federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies.

So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed,
favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea
to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how
reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by
propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun
lobby.

Posted by SusanG at Kos.
A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun
manufacturers.
Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to
keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people
etc.


We have fairly stringent regs in Maryland. We have the federal "instant
check," of course, but we also have a state police check and a 10-day
waiting period for the purchase of handguns. It should also apply to long
guns, but it doesn't.

All this is made moot, though, by the fact that anyone, even someone from
out of state, can buy rifles and pistols at gun shows in Virginia without
any checks, thanks to the so-called gun show loophole. And anyone includes
retards like JustHate and psychos like Froggy.


That is darn scary...... the whole USA should be under Federal Gun Laws....
no cherry picking for the most lax laws.



Not likely to happen in a country where gun nutzis put their firearms
ahead of anything else in their lives, including the welfare of their
families.

Harry wrote:


Not likely to happen in a country where gun nutzis put their firearms
ahead of anything else in their lives, including the welfare of their
families.

Well said. Unfortunately I am a gun nut.
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On 03/01/2010 9:13 AM, Harry wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Harry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page

Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a
stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the
scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle
Association.

This round, let's listen to Luntz:

Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A.
members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the
alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat
rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of
N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that
invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements.

Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to
suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69
percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing
federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies.

So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed,
favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea
to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how
reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by
propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun
lobby.

Posted by SusanG at Kos.
A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the
gun manufacturers.
Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations
to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent
people etc.


We have fairly stringent regs in Maryland. We have the federal
"instant check," of course, but we also have a state police check and
a 10-day waiting period for the purchase of handguns. It should also
apply to long guns, but it doesn't.

All this is made moot, though, by the fact that anyone, even someone
from out of state, can buy rifles and pistols at gun shows in
Virginia without any checks, thanks to the so-called gun show
loophole. And anyone includes retards like JustHate and psychos like
Froggy.


That is darn scary...... the whole USA should be under Federal Gun
Laws.... no cherry picking for the most lax laws.


Not likely to happen in a country where gun nutzis put their firearms
ahead of anything else in their lives, including the welfare of their
families.

I once read an article that 41% or so of the deaths from firearms in the
home were accidental.

Does that mean 59% protected life and property?

And if government can't take guns away from the criminals, why take them
away from honest people? Does not mak sense unless you want the herd of
people to be passive to abuse.

Don White wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page

Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a
stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the
scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle
Association.

This round, let's listen to Luntz:

Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A.
members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the
alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat
rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of
N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that
invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements.

Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to
suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69
percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing
federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies.

So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed,
favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea
to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how
reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by
propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun
lobby.

Posted by SusanG at Kos.

A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun
manufacturers.
Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep
firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc.


Dammit Don. Are you trying to disarm me?

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If it's not posted with a mac, it's the real deal.

"Harry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page

Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a
stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the
scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle
Association.

This round, let's listen to Luntz:

Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A.
members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the
alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat
rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of
N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that
invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements.

Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to
suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69
percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing
federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies.

So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed,
favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea
to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how
reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by
propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun
lobby.

Posted by SusanG at Kos.

A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun
manufacturers.
Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to
keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people
etc.


Dammit Don. Are you trying to disarm me?



Yes...you & the entire Dopey Army...... for the sake of American children
everywhere.