"jps" wrote in message
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:25:57 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:07:49 -0800, jps wrote:


I think not.

Why do we let manufacturers flood the market with cheap weapons?

DECATUR, Ga. -- A 4-year-old boy who was struck by a stray bullet
while at church died Friday.

The incident happened around midnight Friday during a New Year's Eve
watch service at the Covington Drive Church Of God of Prophecy in
Decatur.

It was not immediately clear who fired the shot that came through the
roof of the church and struck the child, who was identified as Marquel
Peters.

"It's hard. He was my only child. He was only 4. He was a smart little
boy, he was so sweet," said his mother, Nathalee Peters.

She said Friday night that she still can't believe it happened.

"I heard a little sound like a 'pink.' I heard him scream a little
bit, so I looked around to hand him the game and that's when I saw the
blood," she said. "I tried to pick him up and then, he was losing
consciousness and he was just breaking and going down. It was so
hard."

DeKalb County police said they thought at first that debris from the
roof fell and hit Marquel.

But the medical examiner found the bullet in the boy's head when he
performed the autopsy.

Nathalee Peters wants the person who fired the gun to turn himself in.

"I want to say to the person responsible for this please come forward
or whoever out there know something about who did this to my son,
please come forward and say something. We need justice," she said.

What sort of weapon was responsible for this? What did it cost....

Why do you make such a connection? The vast availability of weapons,
especially cheap ones, has flooded the market with availability. It
sets the bar for being armed.

One weapon doesn't make a differents. Millions do.

It surprises me you've taken such a short view but it seems your
normal powers of logic get stymied when it comes to religious
arguments.

I have not seen cheap guns in years.

On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 22:31:36 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:25:57 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:07:49 -0800, jps wrote:


I think not.

Why do we let manufacturers flood the market with cheap weapons?

DECATUR, Ga. -- A 4-year-old boy who was struck by a stray bullet
while at church died Friday.

The incident happened around midnight Friday during a New Year's Eve
watch service at the Covington Drive Church Of God of Prophecy in
Decatur.

It was not immediately clear who fired the shot that came through the
roof of the church and struck the child, who was identified as Marquel
Peters.

"It's hard. He was my only child. He was only 4. He was a smart little
boy, he was so sweet," said his mother, Nathalee Peters.

She said Friday night that she still can't believe it happened.

"I heard a little sound like a 'pink.' I heard him scream a little
bit, so I looked around to hand him the game and that's when I saw the
blood," she said. "I tried to pick him up and then, he was losing
consciousness and he was just breaking and going down. It was so
hard."

DeKalb County police said they thought at first that debris from the
roof fell and hit Marquel.

But the medical examiner found the bullet in the boy's head when he
performed the autopsy.

Nathalee Peters wants the person who fired the gun to turn himself in.

"I want to say to the person responsible for this please come forward
or whoever out there know something about who did this to my son,
please come forward and say something. We need justice," she said.

What sort of weapon was responsible for this? What did it cost....

Why do you make such a connection? The vast availability of weapons,
especially cheap ones, has flooded the market with availability. It
sets the bar for being armed.

One weapon doesn't make a differents. Millions do.

It surprises me you've taken such a short view but it seems your
normal powers of logic get stymied when it comes to religious
arguments.

I have not seen cheap guns in years.

Does that mean they're not out there? Did they rust? Fail because of
overuse? Too many thrown in the river? Turned in for rewards?

Any idea how many hand guns have been manufactured and sold in the US
in the past 20 years?

Do we need more of you?

On Jan 3, 1:59*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:07:49 -0800, jps wrote:

I think not.

Why do we let manufacturers flood the market with cheap weapons?

DECATUR, Ga. -- A 4-year-old boy who was struck by a stray bullet
while at church died Friday.

doesn't matter. *the american people dont care how many kids get
killed. the NRA has the american people convinced that that only their
.25 automatics can stop an M1A2 abrams main battle tank if the govt
decides to take over.

I know you are talking foolishness, but still it would beat using
bricks like when the USSR invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968. After the
Czech's had been disarmed, that is all they had left.

Bill McKee wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:25:57 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:07:49 -0800, jps wrote:

I think not.

Why do we let manufacturers flood the market with cheap weapons?

DECATUR, Ga. -- A 4-year-old boy who was struck by a stray bullet
while at church died Friday.

The incident happened around midnight Friday during a New Year's Eve
watch service at the Covington Drive Church Of God of Prophecy in
Decatur.

It was not immediately clear who fired the shot that came through the
roof of the church and struck the child, who was identified as Marquel
Peters.

"It's hard. He was my only child. He was only 4. He was a smart little
boy, he was so sweet," said his mother, Nathalee Peters.

She said Friday night that she still can't believe it happened.

"I heard a little sound like a 'pink.' I heard him scream a little
bit, so I looked around to hand him the game and that's when I saw the
blood," she said. "I tried to pick him up and then, he was losing
consciousness and he was just breaking and going down. It was so
hard."

DeKalb County police said they thought at first that debris from the
roof fell and hit Marquel.

But the medical examiner found the bullet in the boy's head when he
performed the autopsy.

Nathalee Peters wants the person who fired the gun to turn himself in.

"I want to say to the person responsible for this please come forward
or whoever out there know something about who did this to my son,
please come forward and say something. We need justice," she said.
What sort of weapon was responsible for this? What did it cost....
Why do you make such a connection? The vast availability of weapons,
especially cheap ones, has flooded the market with availability. It
sets the bar for being armed.

One weapon doesn't make a differents. Millions do.

It surprises me you've taken such a short view but it seems your
normal powers of logic get stymied when it comes to religious
arguments.

I have not seen cheap guns in years.



Go to a gun show in Virginia. Plenty of working firearms for sale for
$100 or less, and you can find individuals who will sell you one without
bothering with the federal instant check.

TopBassDog wrote:
On Jan 3, 1:59 pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:07:49 -0800, jps wrote:

I think not.
Why do we let manufacturers flood the market with cheap weapons?
DECATUR, Ga. -- A 4-year-old boy who was struck by a stray bullet
while at church died Friday.
doesn't matter. the american people dont care how many kids get
killed. the NRA has the american people convinced that that only their
.25 automatics can stop an M1A2 abrams main battle tank if the govt
decides to take over.

I know you are talking foolishness, but still it would beat using
bricks like when the USSR invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968. After the
Czech's had been disarmed, that is all they had left.


Watching *you* face down a Sov T-55 main battle tank with your choice of
light arms would be a pay TV event I'd pay up to $2.00 American to
watch. Maybe your seeeeeeester could sue the tank, eh?

Armed American civilians on the far right might think they have what it
takes to be effective guerrilla fighters and take on temporarily a
modern, well-equipped army, but that's just a wet dream perpetrated by
watching Red Dawn too many times.

jps wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 22:31:36 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:25:57 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:07:49 -0800, jps wrote:

I think not.

Why do we let manufacturers flood the market with cheap weapons?

DECATUR, Ga. -- A 4-year-old boy who was struck by a stray bullet
while at church died Friday.

The incident happened around midnight Friday during a New Year's Eve
watch service at the Covington Drive Church Of God of Prophecy in
Decatur.

It was not immediately clear who fired the shot that came through the
roof of the church and struck the child, who was identified as Marquel
Peters.

"It's hard. He was my only child. He was only 4. He was a smart little
boy, he was so sweet," said his mother, Nathalee Peters.

She said Friday night that she still can't believe it happened.

"I heard a little sound like a 'pink.' I heard him scream a little
bit, so I looked around to hand him the game and that's when I saw the
blood," she said. "I tried to pick him up and then, he was losing
consciousness and he was just breaking and going down. It was so
hard."

DeKalb County police said they thought at first that debris from the
roof fell and hit Marquel.

But the medical examiner found the bullet in the boy's head when he
performed the autopsy.

Nathalee Peters wants the person who fired the gun to turn himself in.

"I want to say to the person responsible for this please come forward
or whoever out there know something about who did this to my son,
please come forward and say something. We need justice," she said.
What sort of weapon was responsible for this? What did it cost....
Why do you make such a connection? The vast availability of weapons,
especially cheap ones, has flooded the market with availability. It
sets the bar for being armed.

One weapon doesn't make a differents. Millions do.

It surprises me you've taken such a short view but it seems your
normal powers of logic get stymied when it comes to religious
arguments.
I have not seen cheap guns in years.

Does that mean they're not out there? Did they rust? Fail because of
overuse? Too many thrown in the river? Turned in for rewards?

Any idea how many hand guns have been manufactured and sold in the US
in the past 20 years?


There are plenty of cheap guns out there, both in the legal gun market,
and in the shady "Virginia gun show" type of market.
By cheap, I mean under $100. Hell, the NRA used to sell its members a
..45 1911 for $100. There's a former Sov bloc PPK knockoff out there that
I've seen sold for $75.

On Jan 4, 6:08*am, Harry wrote:
TopBassDog wrote:
On Jan 3, 1:59 pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:07:49 -0800, jps wrote:

I think not.
Why do we let manufacturers flood the market with cheap weapons?
DECATUR, Ga. -- A 4-year-old boy who was struck by a stray bullet
while at church died Friday.
doesn't matter. *the american people dont care how many kids get
killed. the NRA has the american people convinced that that only their
.25 automatics can stop an M1A2 abrams main battle tank if the govt
decides to take over.

I know you are talking foolishness, but still it would beat using
bricks like when the USSR invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968. After the
Czech's had been disarmed, that is all they had left.

Watching *you* face down a Sov T-55 main battle tank with your choice of
light arms would be a pay TV event I'd pay up to $2.00 American to
watch. Maybe your seeeeeeester could sue the tank, eh?

Armed American civilians on the far right might think they have what it
takes to be effective guerrilla fighters and take on temporarily a
modern, well-equipped army, but that's just a wet dream perpetrated by
watching Red Dawn too many times.

"Herr Krause. I can understand why you would make such an idiotic
comment for chances are, you probably never had any relatives held
behind the communist bloc. And no, Kerr Krause. There was no mention
of supposedly "small arms" facing off with a Soviet tank. Please re-
read.

TopBassDog wrote:
On Jan 4, 6:08 am, Harry wrote:
TopBassDog wrote:
On Jan 3, 1:59 pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:07:49 -0800, jps wrote:
I think not.
Why do we let manufacturers flood the market with cheap weapons?
DECATUR, Ga. -- A 4-year-old boy who was struck by a stray bullet
while at church died Friday.
doesn't matter. the american people dont care how many kids get
killed. the NRA has the american people convinced that that only their
.25 automatics can stop an M1A2 abrams main battle tank if the govt
decides to take over.
I know you are talking foolishness, but still it would beat using
bricks like when the USSR invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968. After the
Czech's had been disarmed, that is all they had left.
Watching *you* face down a Sov T-55 main battle tank with your choice of
light arms would be a pay TV event I'd pay up to $2.00 American to
watch. Maybe your seeeeeeester could sue the tank, eh?

Armed American civilians on the far right might think they have what it
takes to be effective guerrilla fighters and take on temporarily a
modern, well-equipped army, but that's just a wet dream perpetrated by
watching Red Dawn too many times.

"Herr Krause. I can understand why you would make such an idiotic
comment for chances are, you probably never had any relatives held
behind the communist bloc. And no, Kerr Krause. There was no mention
of supposedly "small arms" facing off with a Soviet tank. Please re-
read.


You think the Russkis backed up their troops with sappers on horseback?
The point it, s.f.b., a bunch of our yokels with small arms are not
going to be able to hold off anyone's modern military force.

BTW, I know you are dense, but your constant use of the word "Herr" only
makes you look dumber than you are. The relatives of mine who came to
this country in the late 19th and early 20th centuries were almost
entirely Russian. Just two of those relatives were not Russian. One came
from a part of Europe - Bohemia in the Sudentenland - whose national
identity seemingly changed every couple of years because of treaties,
wars, mini-invasions, et cetera. The other was Polish.

My father's father was born in some dip**** town between Moscow and St.
Petersburg. He *walked* to Bremen, in Germany, where he got passage to
the United States. He landed at Ellis Island. I have a copy of the
ship's manifest somewhere, with his name and nationality on it. Krause
wasn't even his name. He landed here with a boatload of German
immigrants, and was "renamed" at Ellis Island because, he said, his
Russian name was too hard to pronounce. I have papers that show his
original family name.

Maybe your seeeeeester, the lawyer, can help you with this.

Gene wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:52:16 -0500, Harry
wrote:

Bill McKee wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:25:57 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:07:49 -0800, jps wrote:

I think not.

Why do we let manufacturers flood the market with cheap weapons?

DECATUR, Ga. -- A 4-year-old boy who was struck by a stray bullet
while at church died Friday.

The incident happened around midnight Friday during a New Year's Eve
watch service at the Covington Drive Church Of God of Prophecy in
Decatur.

It was not immediately clear who fired the shot that came through the
roof of the church and struck the child, who was identified as Marquel
Peters.

"It's hard. He was my only child. He was only 4. He was a smart little
boy, he was so sweet," said his mother, Nathalee Peters.

She said Friday night that she still can't believe it happened.

"I heard a little sound like a 'pink.' I heard him scream a little
bit, so I looked around to hand him the game and that's when I saw the
blood," she said. "I tried to pick him up and then, he was losing
consciousness and he was just breaking and going down. It was so
hard."

DeKalb County police said they thought at first that debris from the
roof fell and hit Marquel.

But the medical examiner found the bullet in the boy's head when he
performed the autopsy.

Nathalee Peters wants the person who fired the gun to turn himself in.

"I want to say to the person responsible for this please come forward
or whoever out there know something about who did this to my son,
please come forward and say something. We need justice," she said.
What sort of weapon was responsible for this? What did it cost....
Why do you make such a connection? The vast availability of weapons,
especially cheap ones, has flooded the market with availability. It
sets the bar for being armed.

One weapon doesn't make a differents. Millions do.

It surprises me you've taken such a short view but it seems your
normal powers of logic get stymied when it comes to religious
arguments.
I have not seen cheap guns in years.


Go to a gun show in Virginia. Plenty of working firearms for sale for
$100 or less, and you can find individuals who will sell you one without
bothering with the federal instant check.

I'm gonna have to check that out!


It's the gun show loophole. Plenty of unlicensed dealers roaming around
who legally will sell you about anything you want, and many will not
push even for ID. It's been documented many times.