Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 26, 8:34 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:21:51 -0500, Jim wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/26/09 12:20 AM, Steve B wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:51 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:
"John wrote in message
...
...Change is coming!
The NYTimes is giving seniors a Christmas present to ponder.
http://tinyurl.com/yl9vumo
"Peter R. Orszag, the White House budget director and a disciple of
the Dartmouth data, has noted. "We can no longer afford an overall
health care system in which the thought is more is always better,
because it's not.""
Another - "Because Dartmouth's analysis focuses solely on patients who
have died, a case like Mr. Putrus's would not show up in its data.
That is why critics say Dartmouth's approach takes an overly
pessimistic view of medicine: if you consider only the patients who
die, there is really no way to know whether it makes sense to spend
more on one case than another."
A preview of things to come?
--
Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!
John H
If they were serious about saving money, wouldn't they just all get
on a
conference call instead of flying their jets to Denmark to schmooze
around?
Barry has some expensive tastes, and so does Michelle.
Steve
Jon Stewart pointed out that these climate savers managed to lease
every limo in western europe, some couriered in from as far away as
Germany so nobody had to share a ride.
Well, you can't have people who are interested in saving the planet
have to
ride two to a limo or two to a jet, now can you. It's just not done.
I wonder how many heating oil tanks could have been filled for what was
spent on that extravaganza.
BTW, what's a caviar wedge? I understand they ate a lot of caviar. That
would have bought a lot of turkeys at the shelters.
I bet they had expensive cognac and real Cuban cigars, too.
Nothing too good for our tax dollars.
Steve
Does anyone recall "stevie" objecting when bush was spending like a
drunken sailor, and cutting taxes for the wealthy at the same time?
Hypocrisy, thy real name is republican/conservative. Nothing is piled
higher than republican/conservative b.s.
Nothing except the burgeoning public debt.
Did someone justify Obama's spending using Bush as a rationale?

How silly.
--

John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

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Ever hear of the word "precedent"? It's used legally binding all of
the time.


Can you clarify?

On Dec 26, 10:15Â*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 26, 8:34 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:21:51 -0500, Jim wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/26/09 12:20 AM, Steve B wrote:
Â*wrote in message
om...
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:51 -0800, "Steve B"
Â*wrote:
"John Â*wrote in message
news:b5laj5hrbqgpego8r6tiulf9jca9k39aig@4ax .com...
...Change is coming!
The NYTimes is giving seniors a Christmas present to ponder.
http://tinyurl.com/yl9vumo
"Peter R. Orszag, the White House budget director and a disciple of
the Dartmouth data, has noted. "We can no longer afford an overall
health care system in which the thought is more is always better,
because it's not.""
Another - "Because Dartmouth's analysis focuses solely on patients who
have died, a case like Mr. Putrus's would not show up in its data.
That is why critics say Dartmouth's approach takes an overly
pessimistic view of medicine: if you consider only the patients who
die, there is really no way to know whether it makes sense to spend
more on one case than another."
A preview of things to come?
--
Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!
John H
If they were serious about saving money, wouldn't they just all get
on a
conference call instead of flying their jets to Denmark to schmooze
around?
Barry has some expensive tastes, and so does Michelle.
Steve
Jon Stewart pointed out that these climate savers managed to lease
every limo in western europe, some couriered in from as far away as
Germany so nobody had to share a ride.
Well, you can't have people who are interested in saving the planet
have to
ride two to a limo or two to a jet, now can you. Â*It's just not done.
I wonder how many heating oil tanks could have been filled for what was
spent on that extravaganza.
BTW, what's a caviar wedge? Â*I understand they ate a lot of caviar. Â*That
would have bought a lot of turkeys at the shelters.
I bet they had expensive cognac and real Cuban cigars, too.
Nothing too good for our tax dollars.
Steve
Does anyone recall "stevie" objecting when bush was spending like a
drunken sailor, and cutting taxes for the wealthy at the same time?
Hypocrisy, thy real name is republican/conservative. Nothing is piled
higher than republican/conservative b.s.
Nothing except the burgeoning public debt.
Did someone justify Obama's spending using Bush as a rationale?

How silly.
--

John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ever hear of the word "precedent"? It's used legally binding all of
the time.

Can you clarify?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes:

prec⋅e⋅dent  /n. ˈprɛsɪdənt; adj. prɪˈsidnt, ˈprɛsɪdənt/ Show Spelled
Pronunciation [n. pres-i-duhnt; adj. pri-seed-nt, pres-i-duhnt] Show
IPA

–noun
1. Law. a legal decision or form of proceeding serving as an
authoritative rule or pattern in future similar or analogous cases.

On Dec 26, 10:54Â*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 26, 10:15Â*am, "D.Duck" wrote:





Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 26, 8:34 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:21:51 -0500, Jim wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/26/09 12:20 AM, Steve B wrote:
Â*wrote in message
om...
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:51 -0800, "Steve B"
Â*wrote:
"John Â*wrote in message
news:b5laj5hrbqgpego8r6tiulf9jca9k39aig@4ax .com...
...Change is coming!
The NYTimes is giving seniors a Christmas present to ponder.
http://tinyurl.com/yl9vumo
"Peter R. Orszag, the White House budget director and a disciple of
the Dartmouth data, has noted. "We can no longer afford an overall
health care system in which the thought is more is always better,
because it's not.""
Another - "Because Dartmouth's analysis focuses solely on patients who
have died, a case like Mr. Putrus's would not show up in its data.
That is why critics say Dartmouth's approach takes an overly
pessimistic view of medicine: if you consider only the patients who
die, there is really no way to know whether it makes sense to spend
more on one case than another."
A preview of things to come?
--
Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!
John H
If they were serious about saving money, wouldn't they just all get
on a
conference call instead of flying their jets to Denmark to schmooze
around?
Barry has some expensive tastes, and so does Michelle.
Steve
Jon Stewart pointed out that these climate savers managed to lease
every limo in western europe, some couriered in from as far away as
Germany so nobody had to share a ride.
Well, you can't have people who are interested in saving the planet
have to
ride two to a limo or two to a jet, now can you. Â*It's just not done.
I wonder how many heating oil tanks could have been filled for what was
spent on that extravaganza.
BTW, what's a caviar wedge? Â*I understand they ate a lot of caviar. Â*That
would have bought a lot of turkeys at the shelters.
I bet they had expensive cognac and real Cuban cigars, too.
Nothing too good for our tax dollars.
Steve
Does anyone recall "stevie" objecting when bush was spending like a
drunken sailor, and cutting taxes for the wealthy at the same time?
Hypocrisy, thy real name is republican/conservative. Nothing is piled
higher than republican/conservative b.s.
Nothing except the burgeoning public debt.
Did someone justify Obama's spending using Bush as a rationale?

How silly.
--

John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ever hear of the word "precedent"? It's used legally binding all of
the time.

Can you clarify?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes:

precâ‹…eâ‹…dent  /n. ˈprÉ›sɪdÉ™nt; adj. prɪˈsidnt, ˈprÉ›sɪdÉ™nt/ Â*Show Spelled
Pronunciation [n. pres-i-duhnt; adj. pri-seed-nt, pres-i-duhnt] Â*Show
IPA

–noun
1. Law. a legal decision or form of proceeding serving as an
authoritative rule or pattern in future similar or analogous cases.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So if the person in front of you jumps off a cliff, then it's OK for
you to do it too?

On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:59:00 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:

On Dec 26, 10:54*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 26, 10:15*am, "D.Duck" wrote:





Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 26, 8:34 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:21:51 -0500, Jim wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/26/09 12:20 AM, Steve B wrote:
*wrote in message
om...
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:51 -0800, "Steve B"
*wrote:
"John *wrote in message
news:b5laj5hrbqgpego8r6tiulf9jca9k39aig@4ax .com...
...Change is coming!
The NYTimes is giving seniors a Christmas present to ponder.
http://tinyurl.com/yl9vumo
"Peter R. Orszag, the White House budget director and a disciple of
the Dartmouth data, has noted. "We can no longer afford an overall
health care system in which the thought is more is always better,
because it's not.""
Another - "Because Dartmouth's analysis focuses solely on patients who
have died, a case like Mr. Putrus's would not show up in its data.
That is why critics say Dartmouth's approach takes an overly
pessimistic view of medicine: if you consider only the patients who
die, there is really no way to know whether it makes sense to spend
more on one case than another."
A preview of things to come?
--
Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!
John H
If they were serious about saving money, wouldn't they just all get
on a
conference call instead of flying their jets to Denmark to schmooze
around?
Barry has some expensive tastes, and so does Michelle.
Steve
Jon Stewart pointed out that these climate savers managed to lease
every limo in western europe, some couriered in from as far away as
Germany so nobody had to share a ride.
Well, you can't have people who are interested in saving the planet
have to
ride two to a limo or two to a jet, now can you. *It's just not done.
I wonder how many heating oil tanks could have been filled for what was
spent on that extravaganza.
BTW, what's a caviar wedge? *I understand they ate a lot of caviar. *That
would have bought a lot of turkeys at the shelters.
I bet they had expensive cognac and real Cuban cigars, too.
Nothing too good for our tax dollars.
Steve
Does anyone recall "stevie" objecting when bush was spending like a
drunken sailor, and cutting taxes for the wealthy at the same time?
Hypocrisy, thy real name is republican/conservative. Nothing is piled
higher than republican/conservative b.s.
Nothing except the burgeoning public debt.
Did someone justify Obama's spending using Bush as a rationale?

How silly.
--

John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ever hear of the word "precedent"? It's used legally binding all of
the time.

Can you clarify?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes:

prec?e?dent??/n. ?pr?s?d?nt; adj. pr??sidnt, ?pr?s?d?nt/ *Show Spelled
Pronunciation [n. pres-i-duhnt; adj. pri-seed-nt, pres-i-duhnt] *Show
IPA

–noun
1. Law. a legal decision or form of proceeding serving as an
authoritative rule or pattern in future similar or analogous cases.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So if the person in front of you jumps off a cliff, then it's OK for
you to do it too?

Hey, they set a precedent. There's good ones and bad ones. According
to Loogy, they should all be emulated just 'cause they're precedents.

Liberal judges in New Hampshire and elsewhere set precedents when
they let child rapists off with a one year sentence. Those precedents
leads to things like this:

http://tinyurl.com/yd8s8yf
--

John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:59:00 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:

On Dec 26, 10:54 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 26, 10:15 am, "D.Duck" wrote:





Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 26, 8:34 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:21:51 -0500, Jim wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/26/09 12:20 AM, Steve B wrote:
wrote in message
om...
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:51 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:
"John wrote in message
news:b5laj5hrbqgpego8r6tiulf9jca9k39aig@4ax .com...
...Change is coming!
The NYTimes is giving seniors a Christmas present to ponder.
http://tinyurl.com/yl9vumo
"Peter R. Orszag, the White House budget director and a
disciple of
the Dartmouth data, has noted. "We can no longer afford an
overall
health care system in which the thought is more is always
better,
because it's not.""
Another - "Because Dartmouth's analysis focuses solely on
patients who
have died, a case like Mr. Putrus's would not show up in its
data.
That is why critics say Dartmouth's approach takes an overly
pessimistic view of medicine: if you consider only the
patients who
die, there is really no way to know whether it makes sense to
spend
more on one case than another."
A preview of things to come?
--
Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!
John H
If they were serious about saving money, wouldn't they just
all get
on a
conference call instead of flying their jets to Denmark to
schmooze
around?
Barry has some expensive tastes, and so does Michelle.
Steve
Jon Stewart pointed out that these climate savers managed to
lease
every limo in western europe, some couriered in from as far
away as
Germany so nobody had to share a ride.
Well, you can't have people who are interested in saving the
planet
have to
ride two to a limo or two to a jet, now can you. It's just not
done.
I wonder how many heating oil tanks could have been filled for
what was
spent on that extravaganza.
BTW, what's a caviar wedge? I understand they ate a lot of
caviar. That
would have bought a lot of turkeys at the shelters.
I bet they had expensive cognac and real Cuban cigars, too.
Nothing too good for our tax dollars.
Steve
Does anyone recall "stevie" objecting when bush was spending like
a
drunken sailor, and cutting taxes for the wealthy at the same
time?
Hypocrisy, thy real name is republican/conservative. Nothing is
piled
higher than republican/conservative b.s.
Nothing except the burgeoning public debt.
Did someone justify Obama's spending using Bush as a rationale?

How silly.
--

John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and
the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of
misery."

Churchill- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ever hear of the word "precedent"? It's used legally binding all of
the time.

Can you clarify?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes:

prec?e?dent??/n. ?pr?s?d?nt; adj. pr??sidnt, ?pr?s?d?nt/ Show Spelled
Pronunciation [n. pres-i-duhnt; adj. pri-seed-nt, pres-i-duhnt] Show
IPA

-noun
1. Law. a legal decision or form of proceeding serving as an
authoritative rule or pattern in future similar or analogous cases.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So if the person in front of you jumps off a cliff, then it's OK for
you to do it too?

Hey, they set a precedent. There's good ones and bad ones. According
to Loogy, they should all be emulated just 'cause they're precedents.

Liberal judges in New Hampshire and elsewhere set precedents when
they let child rapists off with a one year sentence. Those precedents
leads to things like this:

http://tinyurl.com/yd8s8yf
--

John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill


And liberal governors like Huckabee... oh wait....


--
Nom=de=Plume

On 26/12/2009 4:49 PM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:59:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 26, 10:54 am, wrote:
On Dec 26, 10:15 am, wrote:





Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 26, 8:34 am, John wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:21:51 -0500, wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/26/09 12:20 AM, Steve B wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:51 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:
"John wrote in message
...
...Change is coming!
The NYTimes is giving seniors a Christmas present to ponder.
http://tinyurl.com/yl9vumo
"Peter R. Orszag, the White House budget director and a disciple of
the Dartmouth data, has noted. "We can no longer afford an overall
health care system in which the thought is more is always better,
because it's not.""
Another - "Because Dartmouth's analysis focuses solely on patients who
have died, a case like Mr. Putrus's would not show up in its data.
That is why critics say Dartmouth's approach takes an overly
pessimistic view of medicine: if you consider only the patients who
die, there is really no way to know whether it makes sense to spend
more on one case than another."
A preview of things to come?
--
Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!
John H
If they were serious about saving money, wouldn't they just all get
on a
conference call instead of flying their jets to Denmark to schmooze
around?
Barry has some expensive tastes, and so does Michelle.
Steve
Jon Stewart pointed out that these climate savers managed to lease
every limo in western europe, some couriered in from as far away as
Germany so nobody had to share a ride.
Well, you can't have people who are interested in saving the planet
have to
ride two to a limo or two to a jet, now can you. It's just not done.
I wonder how many heating oil tanks could have been filled for what was
spent on that extravaganza.
BTW, what's a caviar wedge? I understand they ate a lot of caviar. That
would have bought a lot of turkeys at the shelters.
I bet they had expensive cognac and real Cuban cigars, too.
Nothing too good for our tax dollars.
Steve
Does anyone recall "stevie" objecting when bush was spending like a
drunken sailor, and cutting taxes for the wealthy at the same time?
Hypocrisy, thy real name is republican/conservative. Nothing is piled
higher than republican/conservative b.s.
Nothing except the burgeoning public debt.
Did someone justify Obama's spending using Bush as a rationale?

How silly.
--

John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ever hear of the word "precedent"? It's used legally binding all of
the time.

Can you clarify?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes:

prec?e?dent??/n. ?pr?s?d?nt; adj. pr??sidnt, ?pr?s?d?nt/ Show Spelled
Pronunciation [n. pres-i-duhnt; adj. pri-seed-nt, pres-i-duhnt] Show
IPA

–noun
1. Law. a legal decision or form of proceeding serving as an
authoritative rule or pattern in future similar or analogous cases.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So if the person in front of you jumps off a cliff, then it's OK for
you to do it too?

Hey, they set a precedent. There's good ones and bad ones. According
to Loogy, they should all be emulated just 'cause they're precedents.

Liberal judges in New Hampshire and elsewhere set precedents when
they let child rapists off with a one year sentence. Those precedents
leads to things like this:

http://tinyurl.com/yd8s8yf

Sad and sick. Especailly if the authorities were listening they could
ahve predicted it.

http://tinyurl.com/yjp6jt7

This guy is a preditor and maybe this time the liberal judge will be
told how to make the senatance if they like there job. I also found a
reference to a conviction in 2000. Has a long history, why only one
year on his last round about is beyond me.