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David E. Crable had guns. Lots of guns.

When he was arrested May 28 at his Spanaway home after his brother
accused him of assault, investigators found a cache of rifles and
handguns. The weapons were listed in a court document filed after the
arrest: Two 30.06 rifles, a .223 Bushmaster rifle, an AK47 remake, a
sniper rifle, a .357 revolver, and a Glock 27, among others.

Now, three days after Crable was killed after shooting two Pierce
County sheriff's deputies, the FBI and the federal Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives are looking into the collection of
weapons to find out whether all were purchased legally, said sheriff's
spokesman Sgt. Ed Troyer. It wasn't immediately known whether any of
the weapons found at the home in May were used to shoot the deputies.

"We want to understand where they came from, Troyer said Wednesday.
"Were they stolen, and were they sold to him illegally?"

Sheriff's Sgt. Nick Hausner and Deputy Kent Mundell were summoned to
an Eatonville-area home by Crable's brother, Jason, who reported his
brother was "drunk and belligerent" and an unwanted guest. According
to Troyer, Hausner and Mundell persuaded the intoxicated David Crable
to leave the home.

Crable had agreed to leave the home with the deputies, with the
promise that he wouldn't be arrested or detained, Troyer said. But he
pulled out a handgun hidden in a shirt that was tucked under his arm
and opened fire at almost point-blank range.

Mundell, Troyer said, was shot several times but managed to return
fire. He then was shot multiple times again before Crable collapsed,
Troyer said. It's unclear whether Hausner fired any shots.

On Wednesday, Troyer said detectives had spoken to Hausner and he
reaffirmed the details. A crime scene re-creation also has reaffirmed
the scenario, Troyer added.

Hausner, 43, who has been with the Sheriff's Department for 20 years,
was listed in stable condition Wednesday at Madigan Army Medical
Center at Fort Lewis.

Troyer said there is still hope that Hausner will be able to return
home by Christmas Day.

Mundell, a deputy for nearly 10 years, is listed in critical condition
in the intensive-care unit of Harborview Medical Center in Seattle.

In the May incident, deputies were summoned to the Spanaway home David
Crable shared with his mother after his brother said he had been
threatened.

The deputies also later learned that Crable also had allegedly
assaulted his then-15-year-old daughter. She said Crable brandished a
knife at her, slapped her on the back of the head several times, and
shoved her into a corner. The girl also said her father "grabbed the
back of her head and shoved her face up against the wall," according
to a report of the incident. She had a cut on her chin from the
altercation.

Crable's brother, whose given name is Edward but who goes by Jason,
told the officers that Crable grabbed him by the throat and pushed him
out of the house. When Jason Crable got in his car, his brother came
out with a knife and slashed all the tires, the report states.

When deputies asked to talk to David Crable, he wouldn't come out of
the house, according to the report. After numerous attempts, Crable
relented and agreed to speak with the deputies, who asked him whether
he had any weapons. He responded "he had enough weapons to have taken
us out at anytime," the report states.

A deputy in the sheriff's Domestic Violence Unit told the responding
officers to leave the weapons in the house, according to a report of
the incident.

Crable was charged with assault and malicious mischief. When he was
released on bail, the judge ordered that he not possess any weapons.

He ultimately pleaded guilty to malicious mischief and weapons charges
in connection with the knife. A Superior Court judge sentenced Grable
to one year in jail on each count but suspended 364 days on both
sentences. The judge also placed him on probation for two years,
ordered him to pay fines and restitution, attend parenting classes and
have "no hostile contact" with his brother, according to court
records.

But in the plea agreement, there was no indication that Crable was
barred from possessing firearms. Under state law, his conviction did
not preclude him from owning guns.

Troyer said while much of the investigation is now focused on the
firearms, the department's chief concern is the welfare of the two
wounded deputies.

"Our main concern right now is our deputy and our sergeant in the
hospital; secondary are the weapons," he said.

NRA Member
 

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

NRA Member
 

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

NRA Member
 

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:



No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Danny Westneat

Seattle Times staff columnist

When our latest cop-shooter, David Crable, showed that he was
suicidal, violent and abusing alcohol, the courts in October cracked
down on his use of a dangerous piece of machinery.

His car.

But not his guns.

"I am afraid to be in my own home with him because of the many guns he
owns," his mother told the court in May.

"He carried a gun on himself at all times," said his Eatonville
neighbor, Bobby Brown, Tuesday morning after Crable allegedly ambushed
two Pierce County deputies, firing an estimated 10 shots from a few
feet away.

This case says it all about how blasé our society is about guns.
Here's a guy with a "long history of terrorizing his family." He
threatens his brother and his mother. He talks about shooting himself.
In June he pulls a knife on his teenage daughter and shoves her face
against a wall.

"He has a little bit of a history of having weapons, he has multiple
restraining orders against him from family members that he's
terrorized, he does have convictions of domestic violence, and we have
taken weapons from him before," summed up spokesman Ed Troyer of the
Sheriff's Office.

Yet the courts order him to attend parenting classes.

And, due to a 2-year-old drunken-driving incident, to install an
ignition-interlock device on his Corvette.

As for his guns? Nothing.

Those Corvettes, you've got to register them with the state. You have
to pass a test to drive them. If you show you're sometimes too drunk
to operate a Corvette in a safe manner, then we'll try to use
technology to prevent you from starting the machine at all.

Why? Because it's dangerous.

But guns? For the most part, it's do as you please. No way for police
to know whether you've got one or an entire arsenal. Not even when
you're violent, suicidal and terrorizing your family.

It's not the police or the courts' fault. They're operating by the
rules we've set up. Which with guns is, barely any rules at all.

Before the gun toters go all Second Amendment on me, I have always
felt the Constitution grants a broad right to own guns. The U.S.
Supreme Court has settled that issue, anyway.

But rights aren't unlimited. There's nothing that bars gun
registration. Or testing. Or, say, letting police track guns, with
licensing or the use of microchips.

Or how about this: taking guns away from you after you threaten your
15-year-old daughter with a knife.

Now it's true: People like Crable aren't known for obeying. Maybe
there was no way to prevent the seventh and eighth local police
officers from being shot in the past two months.

Tougher laws might not have stopped the first police shooting. That
alleged perp, Christopher Monfort, had no criminal past.

Maurice Clemmons was already barred from owning guns. Somehow he
showed up that Sunday in a Pierce County coffee shop carrying a 9-mm
handgun and a .38-caliber revolver, which he got from who knows where.

Laws often won't stop the lethal combo of determined plus crazy.

But here's the nagging thing — with guns we aren't even trying.

All the sobriety checkpoints and ignition-lock devices don't rid us of
drunken drivers either. But they help. At least society gets the
message that it matters.

With guns, it's another shooting, another collective shrug. Just the
way it is, we say. Nothing to be done.

I sense the cops have had about enough of that line of argument. You
could hear it in the plea Tuesday of Pierce County Sheriff Paul
Pastor.

"They risk themselves for perfect strangers," he said of his officers.

"We need to ask ourselves how we support people like that, how we back
them, if they are going to stand in our stead, how we help them
protect us. I would like to see the community engage in those
questions and that dialogue so that we don't meet under these
circumstances."

He didn't get specific. I will. Unless we start taking guns as
seriously as Corvettes, it's all but certain we're going to be meeting
like this again.

NRA Member
 

jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Danny Westneat

Seattle Times staff columnist

When our latest cop-shooter, David Crable, showed that he was
suicidal, violent and abusing alcohol, the courts in October cracked
down on his use of a dangerous piece of machinery.

His car.

But not his guns.

"I am afraid to be in my own home with him because of the many guns he
owns," his mother told the court in May.

"He carried a gun on himself at all times," said his Eatonville
neighbor, Bobby Brown, Tuesday morning after Crable allegedly ambushed
two Pierce County deputies, firing an estimated 10 shots from a few
feet away.

This case says it all about how blasé our society is about guns.
Here's a guy with a "long history of terrorizing his family." He
threatens his brother and his mother. He talks about shooting himself.
In June he pulls a knife on his teenage daughter and shoves her face
against a wall.

"He has a little bit of a history of having weapons, he has multiple
restraining orders against him from family members that he's
terrorized, he does have convictions of domestic violence, and we have
taken weapons from him before," summed up spokesman Ed Troyer of the
Sheriff's Office.

Yet the courts order him to attend parenting classes.

And, due to a 2-year-old drunken-driving incident, to install an
ignition-interlock device on his Corvette.

As for his guns? Nothing.

Those Corvettes, you've got to register them with the state. You have
to pass a test to drive them. If you show you're sometimes too drunk
to operate a Corvette in a safe manner, then we'll try to use
technology to prevent you from starting the machine at all.

Why? Because it's dangerous.

But guns? For the most part, it's do as you please. No way for police
to know whether you've got one or an entire arsenal. Not even when
you're violent, suicidal and terrorizing your family.

It's not the police or the courts' fault. They're operating by the
rules we've set up. Which with guns is, barely any rules at all.

Before the gun toters go all Second Amendment on me, I have always
felt the Constitution grants a broad right to own guns. The U.S.
Supreme Court has settled that issue, anyway.

But rights aren't unlimited. There's nothing that bars gun
registration. Or testing. Or, say, letting police track guns, with
licensing or the use of microchips.

Or how about this: taking guns away from you after you threaten your
15-year-old daughter with a knife.

Now it's true: People like Crable aren't known for obeying. Maybe
there was no way to prevent the seventh and eighth local police
officers from being shot in the past two months.

Tougher laws might not have stopped the first police shooting. That
alleged perp, Christopher Monfort, had no criminal past.

Maurice Clemmons was already barred from owning guns. Somehow he
showed up that Sunday in a Pierce County coffee shop carrying a 9-mm
handgun and a .38-caliber revolver, which he got from who knows where.

Laws often won't stop the lethal combo of determined plus crazy.

But here's the nagging thing — with guns we aren't even trying.

All the sobriety checkpoints and ignition-lock devices don't rid us of
drunken drivers either. But they help. At least society gets the
message that it matters.

With guns, it's another shooting, another collective shrug. Just the
way it is, we say. Nothing to be done.

I sense the cops have had about enough of that line of argument. You
could hear it in the plea Tuesday of Pierce County Sheriff Paul
Pastor.

"They risk themselves for perfect strangers," he said of his officers.

"We need to ask ourselves how we support people like that, how we back
them, if they are going to stand in our stead, how we help them
protect us. I would like to see the community engage in those
questions and that dialogue so that we don't meet under these
circumstances."

He didn't get specific. I will. Unless we start taking guns as
seriously as Corvettes, it's all but certain we're going to be meeting
like this again.



You sure have too much time on your hands.

NRA Member
 

jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

I have a ****load of guns at my Huntingtown estate. Do you think I have
an NRA sticker on my Toyota?
Moron!


--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

NRA Member
 

On Dec 24, 1:05*am, jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. *Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

No, he's not a typical NRA supporter. I am.and I would wager he didn't
have a NRA sticker on his truck, that is even if he had a truck. I
dont' have a sticker on any of my cars. of course,I dont' have
anyone's stickers on my vehicles.

NRA Member
 

"No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article. "

NRA Member
 

On 12/24/09 8:45 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 24, 1:05 am, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

No, he's not a typical NRA supporter. I am.and I would wager he didn't
have a NRA sticker on his truck, that is even if he had a truck. I
dont' have a sticker on any of my cars. of course,I dont' have
anyone's stickers on my vehicles.


I have some firearms, and would not even *consider* joining the NRA.

NRA Member
 

On Dec 24, 7:02*am, Harry wrote:
jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. *Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

I have a ****load of guns at my Huntingtown estate. Do you think I have
an NRA sticker on my Toyota?
Moron!

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

Are you really addressing me?

NRA Member
 

On 12/24/09 8:50 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 24, 7:02 am, wrote:
jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

I have a ****load of guns at my Huntingtown estate. Do you think I have
an NRA sticker on my Toyota?
Moron!

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

Are you really addressing me?

It's just another of the Harry ID spoofers, Tim. Check the headers.

NRA Member
 

Harry wrote:
On 12/24/09 8:50 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 24, 7:02 am, wrote:
jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

I have a ****load of guns at my Huntingtown estate. Do you think I have
an NRA sticker on my Toyota?
Moron!

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

Are you really addressing me?

It's just another of the Harry ID spoofers, Tim. Check the headers.

Tim. I was responding to my good friend JPS.
You'll have to pardon me. I really haven't been myself lately.

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

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On Dec 24, 7:55*am, Harry wrote:


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That's one thing about google groupes is the headers fir the real
Harry and the imposters shows up as

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or

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for example

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:46:26 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 24, 7:55*am, Harry wrote:


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That's one thing about google groupes is the headers fir the real
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or

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for example


Luckily, filtering either of them in Agent prevents any of them from
showing.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

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John H wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:46:26 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 24, 7:55 am, Harry wrote:

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That's one thing about google groupes is the headers fir the real
Harry and the imposters shows up as

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or

"On Dec 24, 7:55 am, Harry wrote:"



for example


Luckily, filtering either of them in Agent prevents any of them from
showing.

Exactly. Who knows. Maybe that was their intent from the beginning.

NRA Member
 

On 12/24/09 9:46 AM, Tim wrote:
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Those aren't the headers...they're the email address.
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On Dec 24, 9:46*am, Harry wrote:
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Well, then, you'll have to depend upon your ability to discern someone
who can write from the someones who cannot. If it reads like flajim,
herring, loogy, or any of the other droolers, it wasn't written by me.

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:55:23 -0500
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On 12/24/09 8:50 AM, Tim wrote:

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On Dec 24, 7:02 am, wrote:
jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.
Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?
I have a ****load of guns at my Huntingtown estate. Do you think I have
an NRA sticker on my Toyota?
Moron!
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It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.
Are you really addressing me?
It's just another of the Harry ID spoofers, Tim. Check the headers.

...................

And that's all of a post I see.

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:59:22 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:02:15 -0500, Harry
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

I have a ****load of guns at my Huntingtown estate. Do you think I have
an NRA sticker on my Toyota?
Moron!

Ditto, here; more guns and no stickers.... I do have an ICRBE
sticker.... does that make me bad? Seems like most of the altercations
involved knives.... which surely should be banned. We'll just put your
food in the blender....

Oh, yeah, guns, knives, all of that evil stuff and nobody died! How
can that be? Doesn't gun=death?

Firstly, you responded to a spoof. Secondly, 5 officers have been
killed in the last two months here. One deputy is clinging to life
right now, having been shot in the head. He hasn't taken a breath on
his own for several days. Doesn't look good.

NRA Member
 

Gene wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:43:15 -0800, jps wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:59:22 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:02:15 -0500, Harry
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.
Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?
I have a ****load of guns at my Huntingtown estate. Do you think I have
an NRA sticker on my Toyota?
Moron!
Ditto, here; more guns and no stickers.... I do have an ICRBE
sticker.... does that make me bad? Seems like most of the altercations
involved knives.... which surely should be banned. We'll just put your
food in the blender....

Oh, yeah, guns, knives, all of that evil stuff and nobody died! How
can that be? Doesn't gun=death?
Firstly, you responded to a spoof. Secondly, 5 officers have been
killed in the last two months here. One deputy is clinging to life
right now, having been shot in the head. He hasn't taken a breath on
his own for several days. Doesn't look good.

Sounds like you folks need to get tough on crime....





A prayer for the officer.
More KY jelly for JPS.

NRA Member
 

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:31:45 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:43:15 -0800, jps wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:59:22 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:02:15 -0500, Harry
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

I have a ****load of guns at my Huntingtown estate. Do you think I have
an NRA sticker on my Toyota?
Moron!

Ditto, here; more guns and no stickers.... I do have an ICRBE
sticker.... does that make me bad? Seems like most of the altercations
involved knives.... which surely should be banned. We'll just put your
food in the blender....

Oh, yeah, guns, knives, all of that evil stuff and nobody died! How
can that be? Doesn't gun=death?

Firstly, you responded to a spoof. Secondly, 5 officers have been
killed in the last two months here. One deputy is clinging to life
right now, having been shot in the head. He hasn't taken a breath on
his own for several days. Doesn't look good.

Sounds like you folks need to get tough on crime....

Maybe you should direct your thoughts towards the former Governor of
Arkansas.

NRA Member
 

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:37:00 -0500, Jim wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:43:15 -0800, jps wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:59:22 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:02:15 -0500, Harry
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.
Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?
I have a ****load of guns at my Huntingtown estate. Do you think I have
an NRA sticker on my Toyota?
Moron!
Ditto, here; more guns and no stickers.... I do have an ICRBE
sticker.... does that make me bad? Seems like most of the altercations
involved knives.... which surely should be banned. We'll just put your
food in the blender....

Oh, yeah, guns, knives, all of that evil stuff and nobody died! How
can that be? Doesn't gun=death?
Firstly, you responded to a spoof. Secondly, 5 officers have been
killed in the last two months here. One deputy is clinging to life
right now, having been shot in the head. He hasn't taken a breath on
his own for several days. Doesn't look good.

Sounds like you folks need to get tough on crime....





A prayer for the officer.
More KY jelly for JPS.

Every once in a great while I don't immediately delete one of your
offerings. Your lack of any valuable contribution is what I expect
and you never fail to disappoint.

NRA Member
 

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:49:58 -0500, Harry
wrote:

On 12/24/09 8:45 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 24, 1:05 am, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

No, he's not a typical NRA supporter. I am.and I would wager he didn't
have a NRA sticker on his truck, that is even if he had a truck. I
dont' have a sticker on any of my cars. of course,I dont' have
anyone's stickers on my vehicles.


I have some firearms, and would not even *consider* joining the NRA.
I have 4 rifles, 2 shotguns, a G19, a 1911, 2 .22 target autoloaders,
and a .38 wheel gun. I'm a right-wing Republican and *not* a member
of the NRA. My daughter is as left as one can get (she voted for
ugh yobama) and *is* an NRA member. (she shoots a Benelli shotgun)
Now, go figure.
Eddie

NRA Member
 

jps wrote:
David E. Crable had guns. Lots of guns.

When he was arrested May 28 at his Spanaway home after his brother
accused him of assault, investigators found a cache of rifles and
handguns. The weapons were listed in a court document filed after the
arrest: Two 30.06 rifles, a .223 Bushmaster rifle, an AK47 remake, a
sniper rifle, a .357 revolver, and a Glock 27, among others.


That's nothing. Hardly a "cache".

NRA Member
 

Tim wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.


No surprise.

Rob (NRA Life Member)

NRA Member
 

jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

Typical lefty. Sure - I'll bet you $10K.


Rob

NRA Member
 

Tim wrote:
On Dec 24, 7:55 am, wrote:


It's just another of the Harry ID spoofers, Tim. Check the headers.- Hide quoted text -

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That's one thing about google groupes is the headers fir the real
Harry and the imposters shows up as

"On Dec 24, 7:02 am, wrote: "

or

"On Dec 24, 7:55 am, wrote:"



for example



He wouldn't have this problem if he wasn't an asshole. Now he expects
you to play detective to see if you are responding to him?

Rob

NRA Member
 

The weapons were listed in a court document filed after the
arrest: Two 30.06 rifles, a .223 Bushmaster rifle, an AK47 remake, a
sniper rifle, a .357 revolver, and a Glock 27, among others.



Hey. he had a pretty good selection. It looks like part of my line up,
except I dont' have a Glock.

Sniper rifle? What the heck is that?

NRA Member
 

On Dec 24, 3:31*pm, Gene wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:43:15 -0800, jps wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:59:22 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:02:15 -0500, Harry
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. *Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

I have a ****load of guns at my Huntingtown estate. Do you think I have
an NRA sticker on my Toyota?
Moron!

Ditto, here; more guns and no stickers.... I do have an ICRBE
sticker.... does that make me bad? Seems like most of the altercations
involved knives.... which surely should be banned. We'll just put your
food in the blender....

Oh, yeah, guns, knives, all of that evil stuff and nobody died! How
can that be? Doesn't gun=death?

Firstly, you responded to a spoof. *Secondly, 5 officers have been
killed in the last two months here. *One deputy is clinging to life
right now, having been shot in the head. *He hasn't taken a breath on
his own for several days. *Doesn't look good.

Sounds like you folks need to get tough on crime....

--
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enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
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Yes. It sounds to me more like a crime, than a gun problem.

NRA Member
 

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:38:35 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:49:58 -0500, Harry
wrote:

On 12/24/09 8:45 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 24, 1:05 am, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:31:30 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

No mention of the NRA or NRA membership in the article.

Sure seems like a typical NRA supporter to me. Want to bet he had a
NRA sticker on his truck?

No, he's not a typical NRA supporter. I am.and I would wager he didn't
have a NRA sticker on his truck, that is even if he had a truck. I
dont' have a sticker on any of my cars. of course,I dont' have
anyone's stickers on my vehicles.


I have some firearms, and would not even *consider* joining the NRA.
I have 4 rifles, 2 shotguns, a G19, a 1911, 2 .22 target autoloaders,
and a .38 wheel gun. I'm a right-wing Republican and *not* a member
of the NRA. My daughter is as left as one can get (she voted for
ugh yobama) and *is* an NRA member. (she shoots a Benelli shotgun)
Now, go figure.
Eddie

If she's as smart as she sounds, maybe she'll talk some sense into
those idiots.

NRA Member
 

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:03:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

The weapons were listed in a court document filed after the
arrest: Two 30.06 rifles, a .223 Bushmaster rifle, an AK47 remake, a
sniper rifle, a .357 revolver, and a Glock 27, among others.



Hey. he had a pretty good selection. It looks like part of my line up,
except I dont' have a Glock.

Sniper rifle? What the heck is that?

Really? Same complement of weapons and he's not likely a member of
the NRA? Why, just because he tried to shoot two deputies to death?

NRA Member
 

On Dec 25, 3:16*am, jps wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:03:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

The weapons were listed in a court document filed after the
arrest: Two 30.06 rifles, a .223 Bushmaster rifle, an AK47 remake, a
sniper rifle, a .357 revolver, and a Glock 27, among others.

Hey. he had a pretty good selection. It looks like part of my line up,
except I dont' have a Glock.

Sniper rifle? *What the heck is that?

Really? *Same complement of weapons and he's not likely a member of
the NRA? *Why, just because he tried to shoot two deputies to death?

You don't have to be an NRA member to have a bunch of guns. the NRA
doesn't regulate anything.


"Why, just because he tried to shoot two deputies to death?"

?

NRA Member
 

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:03:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

The weapons were listed in a court document filed after the
arrest: Two 30.06 rifles, a .223 Bushmaster rifle, an AK47 remake, a
sniper rifle, a .357 revolver, and a Glock 27, among others.



Hey. he had a pretty good selection. It looks like part of my line up,
except I dont' have a Glock.

Sniper rifle? What the heck is that?

http://tinyurl.com/5dplt6

You should have known.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

NRA Member
 

On Dec 25, 7:11*am, Tim wrote:
On Dec 25, 3:16*am, jps wrote:

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:03:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

The weapons were listed in a court document filed after the
arrest: Two 30.06 rifles, a .223 Bushmaster rifle, an AK47 remake, a
sniper rifle, a .357 revolver, and a Glock 27, among others.

Hey. he had a pretty good selection. It looks like part of my line up,
except I dont' have a Glock.

Sniper rifle? *What the heck is that?

Really? *Same complement of weapons and he's not likely a member of
the NRA? *Why, just because he tried to shoot two deputies to death?

You don't have to be an NRA member to have a bunch of guns. the NRA
doesn't regulate anything.

It's the typical ignorant anti-gun thinking. The vast majority of gun
owners don't belong to the NRA. The vast majority of the ones that
*do* belong are the ones that are careful, responsible gun owners who
care about the right to keep and bear arms, and want to preserve that
right, in a thoughtful manner.

The vast majority of the people jps hates are *not* NRA members, but
rather law-breakers that have no respect for anyone, or for the law.
If the liberals hadn't taken the teeth out of the law and its
punishment by coddling criminals with light sentences and color TV,
then maybe we could bring that criminal element under control. As it
is now, because of liberals we can't even make a terrorist wear some
freakin' panty hose.

Oh, and hope everyone had a Merry Christmas!!

NRA Member
 

On 12/25/09 7:07 PM, Jack wrote:
On Dec 25, 7:11 am, wrote:
On Dec 25, 3:16 am, wrote:

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:03:30 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

The weapons were listed in a court document filed after the
arrest: Two 30.06 rifles, a .223 Bushmaster rifle, an AK47 remake, a
sniper rifle, a .357 revolver, and a Glock 27, among others.

Hey. he had a pretty good selection. It looks like part of my line up,
except I dont' have a Glock.

Sniper rifle? What the heck is that?

Really? Same complement of weapons and he's not likely a member of
the NRA? Why, just because he tried to shoot two deputies to death?

You don't have to be an NRA member to have a bunch of guns. the NRA
doesn't regulate anything.

It's the typical ignorant anti-gun thinking. The vast majority of gun
owners don't belong to the NRA. The vast majority of the ones that
*do* belong are the ones that are careful, responsible gun owners who
care about the right to keep and bear arms, and want to preserve that
right, in a thoughtful manner.

The vast majority of the people jps hates are *not* NRA members, but
rather law-breakers that have no respect for anyone, or for the law.
If the liberals hadn't taken the teeth out of the law and its
punishment by coddling criminals with light sentences and color TV,
then maybe we could bring that criminal element under control. As it
is now, because of liberals we can't even make a terrorist wear some
freakin' panty hose.

Oh, and hope everyone had a Merry Christmas!!


Is there any possibility your hatred of those who don't think like you
will cause you to have a stroke?

NRA Member
 

On Dec 25, 4:57*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:03:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

The weapons were listed in a court document filed after the
arrest: Two 30.06 rifles, a .223 Bushmaster rifle, an AK47 remake, a
sniper rifle, a .357 revolver, and a Glock 27, among others.

Hey. he had a pretty good selection. It looks like part of my line up,
except I dont' have a Glock.

Sniper rifle? *What the heck is that?

http://tinyurl.com/5dplt6

You should have known.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

Hey! when I was 7 I DID have one of those with a scope mounted on it.

I DID have a sniper rifle!!!!!

NRA Member
 

On Dec 25, 6:07*pm, Jack wrote:
On Dec 25, 7:11*am, Tim wrote:



On Dec 25, 3:16*am, jps wrote:

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:03:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

The weapons were listed in a court document filed after the
arrest: Two 30.06 rifles, a .223 Bushmaster rifle, an AK47 remake, a
sniper rifle, a .357 revolver, and a Glock 27, among others.

Hey. he had a pretty good selection. It looks like part of my line up,
except I dont' have a Glock.

Sniper rifle? *What the heck is that?

Really? *Same complement of weapons and he's not likely a member of
the NRA? *Why, just because he tried to shoot two deputies to death?

You don't have to be an NRA member to have a bunch of guns. the NRA
doesn't regulate anything.

It's the typical ignorant anti-gun thinking. *The vast majority of gun
owners don't belong to the NRA. *The vast majority of the ones that
*do* belong are the ones that are careful, responsible gun owners who
care about the right to keep and bear arms, and want to preserve that
right, in a thoughtful manner.

The vast majority of the people jps hates are *not* NRA members, but
rather law-breakers that have no respect for anyone, or for the law.
If the liberals hadn't taken the teeth out of the law and its
punishment by coddling criminals with light sentences and color TV,
then maybe we could bring that criminal element under control. *As it
is now, because of liberals we can't even make a terrorist wear some
freakin' panty hose.

Oh, and hope everyone had a Merry Christmas!!

"It's the typical ignorant anti-gun thinking. "

Oh! You know it, man!

NRA Member
 

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:06:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 25, 4:57*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:03:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

The weapons were listed in a court document filed after the
arrest: Two 30.06 rifles, a .223 Bushmaster rifle, an AK47 remake, a
sniper rifle, a .357 revolver, and a Glock 27, among others.

Hey. he had a pretty good selection. It looks like part of my line up,
except I dont' have a Glock.

Sniper rifle? *What the heck is that?

http://tinyurl.com/5dplt6

You should have known.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

Hey! when I was 7 I DID have one of those with a scope mounted on it.

I DID have a sniper rifle!!!!!

Well, there you go. You were a sniper with a sniper rifle and didn't
even know it.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

NRA Member
 

On Dec 25, 8:21*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:06:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:



On Dec 25, 4:57*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:03:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

The weapons were listed in a court document filed after the
arrest: Two 30.06 rifles, a .223 Bushmaster rifle, an AK47 remake, a
sniper rifle, a .357 revolver, and a Glock 27, among others.

Hey. he had a pretty good selection. It looks like part of my line up,
except I dont' have a Glock.

Sniper rifle? *What the heck is that?

http://tinyurl.com/5dplt6

You should have known.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

Hey! when I was 7 I DID have one of those with a scope mounted on it.

I DID have a sniper rifle!!!!!

Well, there you go. You were a sniper with a sniper rifle and didn't
even know it.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

Wow, John. i didn't know the Marines used these.....

http://www.chiefaj.com/new_page_10.htm