I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:30:08 -0800 (PST), Tim
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On Dec 21, 11:19*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:59*am, Tim wrote:





On Dec 21, 10:15*am, "Steve B" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message

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OK, I dont' know what the model is but *the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. *Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.

I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.

Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. *Yeah, that little white
book that came with the unit.

Read those. *Lots of good stuff in it.

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I wouldn't be without mine anymore. My new one even tells you what
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Loog, can they really become that addictive? I can see where they can
be a huge advantage navigating in the large metro areas, but hhere in
rural BF Egypt. I found out that it was more of a hinderance then an
advantage. or at least it was for me.

They're not near as big a PITA if you turn the sound off.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

"Steve B" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote

Loog, can they really become that addictive? I can see where they can
be a huge advantage navigating in the large metro areas, but hhere in
rural BF Egypt. I found out that it was more of a hinderance then an
advantage. or at least it was for me.

Don't discount the value of that. IF and whenever you DO go to the big
city, it is most helpful to be in the proper lane with all that traffic
bearing down on you.

Steve


Actually in the remote it can be good also. going down a few dirt roads in
the Hot Creek area out of Mammoth, CA We got a little turned around when we
hit the main road, well the paved road. And just put a town on 395 in and
then we knew which way to turn on the paved road.

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:51:37 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:06:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

OK, I dont' know what the model is but the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.

I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.

They're good if you don't know the area.
When you know how to get somewhere the best way, they really look
stupid.
Take it with you if stray away from home.
You'll like it then.
On mine (Nuvi 200) changing the fastest/shortest setting never made a
difference when I tried it.

--Vic

Completely agree. My wife didn't understand why I'd possibly want to
rent a GPS with the car when we were in the NE for a wedding. Over
the next several days, that thing saved us countless hours of
potential hazard between NYC and the backroads of CT. She was
convinced it was a wise investment -- so she was excited when I bought
her a Garmin recently. It's not going to save us much time locally,
but finding that soccer field at 7 am somewhere in Bum****, WA, it'll
certainly be a godsend.

I was wondering if it'd really make a difference whether we set it to
faster/shorter. This one has traffic alerts so it may take those into
mind.

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

"Gene" wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:51:37 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On mine (Nuvi 200) changing the fastest/shortest setting never made a
difference when I tried it.

Wow! Makes a HUGE difference with mine (265WT)! Garmin isn't perfect,
I've had to do a total reboot and re-load in the last year, but it has
saved a lot of wasted time and effort.
--

Just about every week I get an e-mail from Costco offering the Garmin 265WT
on sale.
I was wondering if that model is a bit long in the tooth or still a good buy
at about $160.00 CDN.

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:21:04 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:51:37 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On mine (Nuvi 200) changing the fastest/shortest setting never made a
difference when I tried it.

Wow! Makes a HUGE difference with mine (265WT)! Garmin isn't perfect,
I've had to do a total reboot and re-load in the last year, but it has
saved a lot of wasted time and effort.

Here's difference with mine, from my home to a Speedway Gas Station
about 10 miles away. I've gone there many, many times.
Shortest distance takes me down my local streets to Milwaukee Ave,
then 8 miles up Milwaukee. I know that route gets me there in 1/2
hour.
Shortest time takes me slightly differently on local streets so I have
to make a left on Golf instead of going to the light like I do.
Left turn onto a four lane, 50 mph road. *Might* save ten seconds.
*Might" get me broadsided. *Might* cost me a minute extra waiting for
traffic to clear versus going to the light like I do.
It doesn't know any of this. I don't blame it for that.
Then it gets me doing 8 miles up Milwaukee, just like shortest
distance did.
Now the real fastest way is to go a mile past Milwaukee and onto
I-294. It's close to 3 miles farther but only takes 20 minutes or
less, a full 33% time reduction. That's where it's stupid.
Seen the same thing going to other suburbs where I know how to get
there on the highway fast, and it wants to route me onto city streets.
Now I-294 is a tollway, but I have it set to ignore that.
Besides I've seen it do the same thing in Florida on free roads.
Fastest way from Beverly Hills, FL to Tampa is straight east to I-75
then southwest to Tampa.
I-75 takes a jog east there, but it's still faster going the distance
than going north or south on state roads to pick up I-75.
And a lot safer too. I've done it both ways.
The Garmin Nuvi always puts you on the state roads.
Another thing it does that ****es me off is doing a bad calc then
right away recalc with the correct answer, yakking about it all the
time.
It should have code to keeps its mouth in gear with its brain.
A 3 second delay before mouthing off with a calc would do it.
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.

--Vic

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:12:54 -0400, "Don White"
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"Gene" wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:51:37 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On mine (Nuvi 200) changing the fastest/shortest setting never made a
difference when I tried it.

Wow! Makes a HUGE difference with mine (265WT)! Garmin isn't perfect,
I've had to do a total reboot and re-load in the last year, but it has
saved a lot of wasted time and effort.
--

Just about every week I get an e-mail from Costco offering the Garmin 265WT
on sale.
I was wondering if that model is a bit long in the tooth or still a good buy
at about $160.00 CDN.

That's the unit I picked up for the wife. Good set of features for a
reasonable price. The other unit I'd rather have is the 885T which
has voice command capability but it's nearly twice as much.

Consumer Reports has an excellent analysis of 50+ units on the market
and gives the 265 very good marks.

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

On Dec 22, 11:09*am, Gene wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:01:27 -0600, Vic Smith

wrote:
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.

True. You'll see better performance on distances much greater than 10
miles... and, as noted, the thing can't know everything. My route to
work would *never* be chosen by the GPS, but it doesn't anticipate
traffic like school busses and morning congestion....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
*-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
*http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

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I can apreciate those thoughts, Gene. I don't feel that theres a need
for me to have a Garmen at this time.

They are cool though.

My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

On 12/22/09 12:39 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:09 am, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:01:27 -0600, Vic Smith

wrote:
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.

True. You'll see better performance on distances much greater than 10
miles... and, as noted, the thing can't know everything. My route to
work would *never* be chosen by the GPS, but it doesn't anticipate
traffic like school busses and morning congestion....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

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I can apreciate those thoughts, Gene. I don't feel that theres a need
for me to have a Garmen at this time.

They are cool though.

My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.


It's Garmin, guys...not Garmen.

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

On 12/22/09 12:39 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:09 am, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:01:27 -0600, Vic Smith

wrote:
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.

True. You'll see better performance on distances much greater than 10
miles... and, as noted, the thing can't know everything. My route to
work would *never* be chosen by the GPS, but it doesn't anticipate
traffic like school busses and morning congestion....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

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I can apreciate those thoughts, Gene. I don't feel that theres a need
for me to have a Garmen at this time.

They are cool though.

My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.


It's Garmin, guys...not Garmen.

You're doing a VERY good job taking your little buddy's place as the
school marm.

--
WAFA is a cancer on society

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Steve B" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote

Loog, can they really become that addictive? I can see where they can
be a huge advantage navigating in the large metro areas, but hhere in
rural BF Egypt. I found out that it was more of a hinderance then an
advantage. or at least it was for me.

Don't discount the value of that. IF and whenever you DO go to the big
city, it is most helpful to be in the proper lane with all that traffic
bearing down on you.

Steve


Actually in the remote it can be good also. going down a few dirt roads
in the Hot Creek area out of Mammoth, CA We got a little turned around
when we hit the main road, well the paved road. And just put a town on
395 in and then we knew which way to turn on the paved road.

My TomTom gives a distance, then an arrow on the lower left quadrant. The
arrow can be straight, or a right angle to left or right. So, it can have a
50 and a right angle arrow to the right. That means turn right in 50 yards.
Or, if it has 2.1, I know the turn is 2.1 miles away. A quick guide to
knowing what's coming.

Steve