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Tim December 21st 09 04:06 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
OK, I dont' know what the model is but the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.

I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.

Steve B[_2_] December 21st 09 04:15 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
OK, I dont' know what the model is but the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.

I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. Yeah, that little white
book that came with the unit.

Read those. Lots of good stuff in it.

Steve



Tim December 21st 09 04:59 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Dec 21, 10:15*am, "Steve B" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...





OK, I dont' know what the model is but *the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. *Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. *Yeah, that little white
book that came with the unit.

Read those. *Lots of good stuff in it.

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Sure thing. it's hers so I'll let her read it.

Steve B[_2_] December 21st 09 05:09 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 21, 10:15 am, "Steve B" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...





OK, I dont' know what the model is but the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. Yeah, that little white
book that came with the unit.

Read those. Lots of good stuff in it.

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Sure thing. it's hers so I'll let her read it.

We were given that basic Tom Tom. I programmed it on a flight to Kauai. We
landed on a moonless night, plugged it in, popped it on the windshield, and
it took us right to our condo through a maze of roads. Turn right, turn
left, stay in the left lane. It was easy to use.

We have used it lots and lots since. We have found that it will try to take
you on nonexistent roads, but many times it will take us ways we would have
never thought, and we end up getting there faster and avoiding traffic.
Now, there are alerts beamed to the units that tell of traffic blockages so
they navigate you around them.

They do have limitations, but they are handy. Particularly if you learn how
to use them. We regularly use it to find the closest gas station,
restaurant, etc. That helps out when you are in unfamiliar cities.

Steve



Tim December 21st 09 05:18 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Dec 21, 11:09*am, "Steve B" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Dec 21, 10:15 am, "Steve B" wrote:





"Tim" wrote in message


....


OK, I dont' know what the model is but the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself..
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. Yeah, that little white
book that came with the unit.


Read those. Lots of good stuff in it.


Steve- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sure thing. it's hers so I'll let her read it.

We were given that basic Tom Tom. *I programmed it on a flight to Kauai.. *We
landed on a moonless night, plugged it in, popped it on the windshield, and
it took us right to our condo through a maze of roads. *Turn right, turn
left, stay in the left lane. *It was easy to use.

We have used it lots and lots since. *We have found that it will try to take
you on nonexistent roads, but many times it will take us ways we would have
never thought, and we end up getting there faster and avoiding traffic.
Now, there are alerts beamed to the units that tell of traffic blockages so
they navigate you around them.

They do have limitations, but they are handy. *Particularly if you learn how
to use them. *We regularly use it to find the closest gas station,
restaurant, etc. *That helps out when you are in unfamiliar cities.

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I will say this, it did tell that the speedometer in the car is one
mile off. When doing 65 we're actually doing 64.

I know there is custom programming, but at this venture I can't see
any need for it for me.

Speaking of Hawai'i, When we fly into Kaui'i, I can go right from the
air port to our destination with no trouble. but then again, after
being there several times, it's kinds of hard to get lost on Kauai'i

Loogypicker[_2_] December 21st 09 05:19 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Dec 21, 11:59*am, Tim wrote:
On Dec 21, 10:15*am, "Steve B" wrote:





"Tim" wrote in message


....


OK, I dont' know what the model is but *the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. *Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself..
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. *Yeah, that little white
book that came with the unit.


Read those. *Lots of good stuff in it.


Steve- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sure thing. it's hers so I'll let her read it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I wouldn't be without mine anymore. My new one even tells you what
lane to be in on freeways.

Tim December 21st 09 05:30 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Dec 21, 11:19*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:59*am, Tim wrote:





On Dec 21, 10:15*am, "Steve B" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


....


OK, I dont' know what the model is but *the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. *Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. *Yeah, that little white
book that came with the unit.


Read those. *Lots of good stuff in it.


Steve- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sure thing. it's hers so I'll let her read it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I wouldn't be without mine anymore. My new one even tells you what
lane to be in on freeways.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Loog, can they really become that addictive? I can see where they can
be a huge advantage navigating in the large metro areas, but hhere in
rural BF Egypt. I found out that it was more of a hinderance then an
advantage. or at least it was for me.

Harry[_2_] December 21st 09 05:36 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
In article 8960e77d-688d-4b65-885f-700e34404e08
@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 21, 11:19*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:59*am, Tim wrote:





On Dec 21, 10:15*am, "Steve B" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


...


OK, I dont' know what the model is but *the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. *Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. *Yeah, that little white
book that came with the unit.


Read those. *Lots of good stuff in it.


Steve- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sure thing. it's hers so I'll let her read it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I wouldn't be without mine anymore. My new one even tells you what
lane to be in on freeways.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Loog, can they really become that addictive? I can see where they can
be a huge advantage navigating in the large metro areas, but hhere in
rural BF Egypt. I found out that it was more of a hinderance then an
advantage. or at least it was for me.


Well, just going to my office, which is 20 miles from my house. I
usually don't even turn it on then, but. Awhile back, flooding a lot of
major routes from my suburbia to the city, and even a lot of smaller
roads were flooded. So you get turned around, detoured, turned again,
detoured again, don't know where in hell you are! Yes, I could have just
went in a general direction until I saw something familiar, but I just
turned on my gps, pushed the button to my office, and then every time I
had to detour because of flooding, it recalculates the route, and life
is good!

--
And now...back to flajim and others who are so obsessed with me, they
use my handle here.

mgg December 21st 09 05:49 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

"Loogypicker" wrote in message
...
On Dec 21, 11:59 am, Tim wrote:
On Dec 21, 10:15 am, "Steve B" wrote:





"Tim" wrote in message


...


OK, I dont' know what the model is but the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. Yeah, that little
white
book that came with the unit.


Read those. Lots of good stuff in it.


Steve- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sure thing. it's hers so I'll let her read it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I wouldn't be without mine anymore. My new one even tells you what
lane to be in on freeways.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I'm with you. I use the Garmin app on my Blackberry. It's every bit as good
as the stand alone units (but smaller screen), and it's always with me.

--Mike



[email protected] December 21st 09 06:38 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:06:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

OK, I dont' know what the model is but the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.

I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


I have a handheld Garmin that has both river and road navigation. I
don't recall the model number. I'll have to take a look when I get
home. It's not a high-end model. But, the river navigation was a
plus. We used it going down the Mississippi, and we could determine
how many hours we had to travel to meet our ETA. It has a variety of
additional functions, and we used it to mark locations that we thought
we might want to return to sometime, such as isolated fishing spots or
attractive sandbars. The road navigation isn't too bad, either. As
far as road navigation, I'm still a bit old fashioned, too, though. I
still use a laptop and Microsoft Streets and Trips. Works well.

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Tim December 21st 09 06:58 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Dec 21, 11:49*am, "mgg" wrote:
"Loogypicker" wrote in message

...
On Dec 21, 11:59 am, Tim wrote:





On Dec 21, 10:15 am, "Steve B" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


....


OK, I dont' know what the model is but the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. Yeah, that little
white
book that came with the unit.


Read those. Lots of good stuff in it.


Steve- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sure thing. it's hers so I'll let her read it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I wouldn't be without mine anymore. My new one even tells you what
lane to be in on freeways.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I'm with you. I use the Garmin app on my Blackberry. It's every bit as good
as the stand alone units (but smaller screen), and it's always with me.

--Mike- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


LOL! My old cell phone doesn't even have a camera in it. And if I
leave it at home, I don't feel naked wihout it. I don't know how to
send a text and if I really want to send a messege, I'll call and
leave a message.

Same way with the computer I'm on. Windows 98 with dial up.

I suppose I'm way behind the times. But then again. I'm
comfortable .Or maybe "comfortably numb"

Tim December 21st 09 06:59 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Dec 21, 12:38*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:06:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:





OK, I dont' know what the model is but *the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. *Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


I have a handheld Garmin that has both river and road navigation. *I
don't recall the model number. *I'll have to take a look when I get
home. *It's not a high-end model. *But, the river navigation was a
plus. *We used it going down the Mississippi, and we could determine
how many hours we had to travel to meet our ETA. * It has a variety of
additional functions, and we used it to mark locations that we thought
we might want to return to sometime, such as isolated fishing spots or
attractive sandbars. *The road navigation isn't too bad, either. *As
far as road navigation, I'm still a bit old fashioned, too, though. *I
still use a laptop and Microsoft Streets and Trips. *Works well.

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concerning road trips, I'll hit up mapquest and print off the
directions. But that's rare, because I don't get out often.

?;^ )

I am Tosk December 21st 09 07:02 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
In article ,
says...

"Tim" wrote in message
...
OK, I dont' know what the model is but the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.

I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. Yeah, that little white
book that came with the unit.

Read those. Lots of good stuff in it.

Steve



Yabut, sometimes those things are just a pain to set. Going through the
city the only way to avoid the back roads is to manually dismiss
waypoints through a very tedious process in some cases. I look at the
maps to find the highway route and exit I want, then let it take me from
there. I use it as a guide to find banks, gas, food, whatever,
especially wnen I am in a place far away camping for the weekend.. They
are pretty good around town.

I am Tosk December 21st 09 07:04 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
In article 8960e77d-688d-4b65-885f-700e34404e08
@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 21, 11:19*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:59*am, Tim wrote:





On Dec 21, 10:15*am, "Steve B" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


...


OK, I dont' know what the model is but *the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. *Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. *Yeah, that little white
book that came with the unit.


Read those. *Lots of good stuff in it.


Steve- Hide quoted text -


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I wouldn't be without mine anymore. My new one even tells you what
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Loog, can they really become that addictive? I can see where they can
be a huge advantage navigating in the large metro areas, but hhere in
rural BF Egypt. I found out that it was more of a hinderance then an
advantage. or at least it was for me.


Um, Guilty. I run it all the time. I have missed exits while turning it
on and waiting for the sats to catch up, even when I knew damn well
where I was going. I like knowing how far and long I have gone/to go...

[email protected] December 21st 09 07:12 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:59:32 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 21, 12:38*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:06:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:





OK, I dont' know what the model is but *the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. *Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


I have a handheld Garmin that has both river and road navigation. *I
don't recall the model number. *I'll have to take a look when I get
home. *It's not a high-end model. *But, the river navigation was a
plus. *We used it going down the Mississippi, and we could determine
how many hours we had to travel to meet our ETA. * It has a variety of
additional functions, and we used it to mark locations that we thought
we might want to return to sometime, such as isolated fishing spots or
attractive sandbars. *The road navigation isn't too bad, either. *As
far as road navigation, I'm still a bit old fashioned, too, though. *I
still use a laptop and Microsoft Streets and Trips. *Works well.

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concerning road trips, I'll hit up mapquest and print off the
directions. But that's rare, because I don't get out often.

?;^ )


I wouldn't have thunk that you don't get out often, Tim. You have too
many hobbies, it seems to me. :)

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I am Tosk December 21st 09 07:44 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
In article a38e8558-29ab-4ff6-bac3-
, says...

On Dec 21, 12:38*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:06:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:





OK, I dont' know what the model is but *the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. *Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


I have a handheld Garmin that has both river and road navigation. *I
don't recall the model number. *I'll have to take a look when I get
home. *It's not a high-end model. *But, the river navigation was a
plus. *We used it going down the Mississippi, and we could determine
how many hours we had to travel to meet our ETA. * It has a variety of
additional functions, and we used it to mark locations that we thought
we might want to return to sometime, such as isolated fishing spots or
attractive sandbars. *The road navigation isn't too bad, either. *As
far as road navigation, I'm still a bit old fashioned, too, though. *I
still use a laptop and Microsoft Streets and Trips. *Works well.

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concerning road trips, I'll hit up mapquest and print off the
directions. But that's rare, because I don't get out often.

?;^ )


I always do that too, as a backup...

[email protected] December 21st 09 08:31 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:44:48 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article a38e8558-29ab-4ff6-bac3-
, says...

On Dec 21, 12:38*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:06:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:





OK, I dont' know what the model is but *the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. *Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.

I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.

I have a handheld Garmin that has both river and road navigation. *I
don't recall the model number. *I'll have to take a look when I get
home. *It's not a high-end model. *But, the river navigation was a
plus. *We used it going down the Mississippi, and we could determine
how many hours we had to travel to meet our ETA. * It has a variety of
additional functions, and we used it to mark locations that we thought
we might want to return to sometime, such as isolated fishing spots or
attractive sandbars. *The road navigation isn't too bad, either. *As
far as road navigation, I'm still a bit old fashioned, too, though. *I
still use a laptop and Microsoft Streets and Trips. *Works well.

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concerning road trips, I'll hit up mapquest and print off the
directions. But that's rare, because I don't get out often.

?;^ )


I always do that too, as a backup...


I don't know about Mapquest; but, Google Maps has street level pics of
each location and transition points (for lack of a better way of
putting it) along the route. It's a nice feature.

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Vic Smith December 21st 09 09:51 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:06:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

OK, I dont' know what the model is but the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.

I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


They're good if you don't know the area.
When you know how to get somewhere the best way, they really look
stupid.
Take it with you if stray away from home.
You'll like it then.
On mine (Nuvi 200) changing the fastest/shortest setting never made a
difference when I tried it.

--Vic

Steve B[_2_] December 21st 09 11:09 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

"Tim" wrote

Speaking of Hawai'i, When we fly into Kaui'i, I can go right from the
air port to our destination with no trouble. but then again, after
being there several times, it's kinds of hard to get lost on Kauai'i

If you've been there more than two days, it is hard to get lost. The roads
form a big C, and you will reach the end of one or the other soon. Anyone
who can follow the sun, and is any good at orienteering can find their way
around after the first day.

Steve



Steve B[_2_] December 21st 09 11:10 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

"Tim" wrote

Loog, can they really become that addictive? I can see where they can
be a huge advantage navigating in the large metro areas, but hhere in
rural BF Egypt. I found out that it was more of a hinderance then an
advantage. or at least it was for me.

Don't discount the value of that. IF and whenever you DO go to the big
city, it is most helpful to be in the proper lane with all that traffic
bearing down on you.

Steve



John H[_11_] December 21st 09 11:51 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:30:08 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 21, 11:19*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:59*am, Tim wrote:





On Dec 21, 10:15*am, "Steve B" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message


...


OK, I dont' know what the model is but *the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. *Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.


I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


Included in the directions are ways to set it so that it takes you the
fastest way, the way with the most freeways, etc. *Yeah, that little white
book that came with the unit.


Read those. *Lots of good stuff in it.


Steve- Hide quoted text -


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- Show quoted text -


I wouldn't be without mine anymore. My new one even tells you what
lane to be in on freeways.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Loog, can they really become that addictive? I can see where they can
be a huge advantage navigating in the large metro areas, but hhere in
rural BF Egypt. I found out that it was more of a hinderance then an
advantage. or at least it was for me.


They're not near as big a PITA if you turn the sound off.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

Bill McKee December 22nd 09 02:12 AM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

"Steve B" wrote in message
...

"Tim" wrote

Loog, can they really become that addictive? I can see where they can
be a huge advantage navigating in the large metro areas, but hhere in
rural BF Egypt. I found out that it was more of a hinderance then an
advantage. or at least it was for me.

Don't discount the value of that. IF and whenever you DO go to the big
city, it is most helpful to be in the proper lane with all that traffic
bearing down on you.

Steve


Actually in the remote it can be good also. going down a few dirt roads in
the Hot Creek area out of Mammoth, CA We got a little turned around when we
hit the main road, well the paved road. And just put a town on 395 in and
then we knew which way to turn on the paved road.



jps December 22nd 09 03:09 AM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:51:37 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:06:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

OK, I dont' know what the model is but the wife bought a Garmen. The
cheaper one that was on sale for $89.00, and it might be OK, but I'm
not really sure if I like it or not. We thought we'd test it out and
use it to find a good route to take us from our house to our daughters
college with is about 130 mi. away. I have the trusted and true route
that I always take and it's served me well for several years, but we
thought we'd let the Garmen plan it out this time. It took us down
about every county road that I didn't even know existed, with a lot of
stop and turn stuff. Granted, the 'robot lady' gave us ample signals
on which road to take and early enough warning so we wouldn't miss a
turn, but it took us "over the river and through the woods" including
gravel and potholed blacktops. The trip may have been shorter but I
can't say it saved us any time, nor wear and tear on the car. Coming
back we ignored the Garmen and took the proven route and it was a lot
smoother.

I can see how people can run off into lakes, canyons and other unknown
hazards that the Garmen doesn't recognize. She bought it to navigate
around in cities and find seemingly uncharted address's, and that's
fine. But I don't think I'll be using it to navigate trips for myself.
I suppose what I'm saying is that at this moment in time, I can't see
much of a reason for a Garmen in my future. Maybe I'm too much of a
Luddite.


They're good if you don't know the area.
When you know how to get somewhere the best way, they really look
stupid.
Take it with you if stray away from home.
You'll like it then.
On mine (Nuvi 200) changing the fastest/shortest setting never made a
difference when I tried it.

--Vic


Completely agree. My wife didn't understand why I'd possibly want to
rent a GPS with the car when we were in the NE for a wedding. Over
the next several days, that thing saved us countless hours of
potential hazard between NYC and the backroads of CT. She was
convinced it was a wise investment -- so she was excited when I bought
her a Garmin recently. It's not going to save us much time locally,
but finding that soccer field at 7 am somewhere in Bum****, WA, it'll
certainly be a godsend.

I was wondering if it'd really make a difference whether we set it to
faster/shorter. This one has traffic alerts so it may take those into
mind.

Don White December 22nd 09 04:12 AM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:51:37 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On mine (Nuvi 200) changing the fastest/shortest setting never made a
difference when I tried it.


Wow! Makes a HUGE difference with mine (265WT)! Garmin isn't perfect,
I've had to do a total reboot and re-load in the last year, but it has
saved a lot of wasted time and effort.
--


Just about every week I get an e-mail from Costco offering the Garmin 265WT
on sale.
I was wondering if that model is a bit long in the tooth or still a good buy
at about $160.00 CDN.



Vic Smith December 22nd 09 05:01 AM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:21:04 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:51:37 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On mine (Nuvi 200) changing the fastest/shortest setting never made a
difference when I tried it.


Wow! Makes a HUGE difference with mine (265WT)! Garmin isn't perfect,
I've had to do a total reboot and re-load in the last year, but it has
saved a lot of wasted time and effort.


Here's difference with mine, from my home to a Speedway Gas Station
about 10 miles away. I've gone there many, many times.
Shortest distance takes me down my local streets to Milwaukee Ave,
then 8 miles up Milwaukee. I know that route gets me there in 1/2
hour.
Shortest time takes me slightly differently on local streets so I have
to make a left on Golf instead of going to the light like I do.
Left turn onto a four lane, 50 mph road. *Might* save ten seconds.
*Might" get me broadsided. *Might* cost me a minute extra waiting for
traffic to clear versus going to the light like I do.
It doesn't know any of this. I don't blame it for that.
Then it gets me doing 8 miles up Milwaukee, just like shortest
distance did.
Now the real fastest way is to go a mile past Milwaukee and onto
I-294. It's close to 3 miles farther but only takes 20 minutes or
less, a full 33% time reduction. That's where it's stupid.
Seen the same thing going to other suburbs where I know how to get
there on the highway fast, and it wants to route me onto city streets.
Now I-294 is a tollway, but I have it set to ignore that.
Besides I've seen it do the same thing in Florida on free roads.
Fastest way from Beverly Hills, FL to Tampa is straight east to I-75
then southwest to Tampa.
I-75 takes a jog east there, but it's still faster going the distance
than going north or south on state roads to pick up I-75.
And a lot safer too. I've done it both ways.
The Garmin Nuvi always puts you on the state roads.
Another thing it does that ****es me off is doing a bad calc then
right away recalc with the correct answer, yakking about it all the
time.
It should have code to keeps its mouth in gear with its brain.
A 3 second delay before mouthing off with a calc would do it.
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.

--Vic

jps December 22nd 09 08:42 AM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
NEAR EATONVILLE, Wash. -- Two Pierce County deputies were shot near Eatonville on Monday night.

Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said the two were critically wounded at approximately 8:48 p.m. One was airlifted to Harborview Medical Center and the other taken to Tacoma General Hospital, then diverted to Madigan Army Medical Center.

The circumstances surrounding the shooting were not immediately clear; however, Troyer believed the two deputies were responding to a domestic violence call when they were shot.

Troyer had no information on the gunman. The investigation is ongoing.

The shootings come just weeks after four Lakewood police officers were shot to death at a coffee shop in Parkland, Wash.

Sgt. Mark Renninger, Officer Ronald Owens, Officer Tina Griswold and Officer Greg Richards were killed Nov. 29 by Maurice Clemmons as the four prepared for their morning shifts.

Clemmons was fatally shot by a Seattle police officer two days later.

On Oct. 31, Officer Timothy Brenton was shot to death in Seattle's Central District neighborhood while in his patrol car.

His partner, Britt Sweney, was wounded. Prosecutors have charged Christopher Monfort in the shootings.

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:12:54 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Gene" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:51:37 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On mine (Nuvi 200) changing the fastest/shortest setting never made a
difference when I tried it.


Wow! Makes a HUGE difference with mine (265WT)! Garmin isn't perfect,
I've had to do a total reboot and re-load in the last year, but it has
saved a lot of wasted time and effort.
--


Just about every week I get an e-mail from Costco offering the Garmin 265WT
on sale.
I was wondering if that model is a bit long in the tooth or still a good buy
at about $160.00 CDN.


That's the unit I picked up for the wife. Good set of features for a
reasonable price. The other unit I'd rather have is the 885T which
has voice command capability but it's nearly twice as much.

Consumer Reports has an excellent analysis of 50+ units on the market
and gives the 265 very good marks.

Tim December 22nd 09 05:39 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Dec 22, 11:09*am, Gene wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:01:27 -0600, Vic Smith

wrote:
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.


True. You'll see better performance on distances much greater than 10
miles... and, as noted, the thing can't know everything. My route to
work would *never* be chosen by the GPS, but it doesn't anticipate
traffic like school busses and morning congestion....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
*-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
*http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

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I can apreciate those thoughts, Gene. I don't feel that theres a need
for me to have a Garmen at this time.

They are cool though.

My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.

Harry[_2_] December 22nd 09 05:40 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On 12/22/09 12:39 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:09 am, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:01:27 -0600, Vic Smith

wrote:
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.


True. You'll see better performance on distances much greater than 10
miles... and, as noted, the thing can't know everything. My route to
work would *never* be chosen by the GPS, but it doesn't anticipate
traffic like school busses and morning congestion....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186


I can apreciate those thoughts, Gene. I don't feel that theres a need
for me to have a Garmen at this time.

They are cool though.

My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.



It's Garmin, guys...not Garmen.



No_Way[_2_] December 22nd 09 06:30 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

On 12/22/09 12:39 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:09 am, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:01:27 -0600, Vic Smith

wrote:
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.

True. You'll see better performance on distances much greater than 10
miles... and, as noted, the thing can't know everything. My route to
work would *never* be chosen by the GPS, but it doesn't anticipate
traffic like school busses and morning congestion....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186


I can apreciate those thoughts, Gene. I don't feel that theres a need
for me to have a Garmen at this time.

They are cool though.

My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.



It's Garmin, guys...not Garmen.


You're doing a VERY good job taking your little buddy's place as the
school marm.

--
WAFA is a cancer on society

Steve B[_2_] December 22nd 09 10:29 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Steve B" wrote in message
...

"Tim" wrote

Loog, can they really become that addictive? I can see where they can
be a huge advantage navigating in the large metro areas, but hhere in
rural BF Egypt. I found out that it was more of a hinderance then an
advantage. or at least it was for me.

Don't discount the value of that. IF and whenever you DO go to the big
city, it is most helpful to be in the proper lane with all that traffic
bearing down on you.

Steve


Actually in the remote it can be good also. going down a few dirt roads
in the Hot Creek area out of Mammoth, CA We got a little turned around
when we hit the main road, well the paved road. And just put a town on
395 in and then we knew which way to turn on the paved road.


My TomTom gives a distance, then an arrow on the lower left quadrant. The
arrow can be straight, or a right angle to left or right. So, it can have a
50 and a right angle arrow to the right. That means turn right in 50 yards.
Or, if it has 2.1, I know the turn is 2.1 miles away. A quick guide to
knowing what's coming.

Steve



Steve B[_2_] December 22nd 09 10:33 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 


Kinda confuses me, too.... everytime I see those price drops I tell
the wife I think the thing just became an orphan... that's been going
on for about a year..... I guess eventually I'll be right.....


I have two Garmin 12XL's. They are about eight years old now. Yes, you can
interface with a computer, and all that jazz, but it's just a plain and
simple one. So sturdy, it's part of the USAF survival pack to this day.
Even though they have come up with probably 100 newer better bigger more
expensive models, this thing has no update or reprogramming requirements.
Kinda like an old transistor AM radio. On/off, channel knob, volume. Very
simple. That's why I like them so much.

Steve



Steve B[_2_] December 22nd 09 10:40 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

"Tim" wrote


My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.

reply: The last time I lost my cell phone, I wanted just as basic a cell
phone that they made. No camera, no movies, none of that falderal. I
finally found one, think it was cricket, but not sure. A cell phone that
looks like it was made by Fisher-Price. Ten numbers, on/off, and a couple
of other buttons.

Trouble is, it wouldn't work on MY system, and THEIR system was very
expensive and had tiny coverage.

No one is listening. There are lots and lots and lots of people, I believe,
that want just a bare bones cell phone without the 200 page instruction
manual. My daughter printed out her Blackberry manual, and it took about a
ream of paper.

Steve



Tim December 22nd 09 11:50 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Dec 22, 4:40*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"Tim" wrote

My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.

reply: *The last time I lost my cell phone, I wanted just as basic a cell
phone that they made. *No camera, no movies, none of that falderal. *I
finally found one, think it was cricket, but not sure. *A cell phone that
looks like it was made by Fisher-Price. *Ten numbers, on/off, and a couple
of other buttons.

Trouble is, it wouldn't work on MY system, and THEIR system was very
expensive and had tiny coverage.

No one is listening. *There are lots and lots and lots of people, I believe,
that want just a bare bones cell phone without the 200 page instruction
manual. *My daughter printed out her Blackberry manual, and it took about a
ream of paper.

Steve


My cell phone is a Motorola V-197 it's been a tough little beast and
it's about as bare bones as you can get. i wouldn't say that its
really as bare bones as I let on, because you can get internet on it,
I suppose. I've looked up NY Times and MSN for news on it, but it's
slower than a dead dog. and it's not set up for text either. I dont'
know how much the Cellular one service costs, because the wife takes
care of all that. At least I'm not to the point where I feel like I'm
naked if I dont' have the cell phone with me.

*e#c December 23rd 09 01:33 AM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Dec 22, 1:30*pm, No_Way wrote:
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...





On 12/22/09 12:39 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:09 am, *wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:01:27 -0600, Vic Smith


*wrote:
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.


True. You'll see better performance on distances much greater than 10
miles... and, as noted, the thing can't know everything. My route to
work would *never* be chosen by the GPS, but it doesn't anticipate
traffic like school busses and morning congestion....


--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
* -Thomas Sowell


Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.


Homepage
* http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm


Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186


I can apreciate those thoughts, Gene. I don't feel that theres a need
for me to have a Garmen at this time.


They are cool though.


My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.


It's Garmin, guys...not Garmen.


You're doing a VERY good job taking your little buddy's place as the
school marm.

--
WAFA is a cancer on society


And you've done a great job becoming the King Asshole Spoofer. Are you
still talking to your sock-puppets, " hotkey", or is it "whisper"
today?

Bill McKee December 23rd 09 01:48 AM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 22, 4:40 pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"Tim" wrote

My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.

reply: The last time I lost my cell phone, I wanted just as basic a cell
phone that they made. No camera, no movies, none of that falderal. I
finally found one, think it was cricket, but not sure. A cell phone that
looks like it was made by Fisher-Price. Ten numbers, on/off, and a couple
of other buttons.

Trouble is, it wouldn't work on MY system, and THEIR system was very
expensive and had tiny coverage.

No one is listening. There are lots and lots and lots of people, I
believe,
that want just a bare bones cell phone without the 200 page instruction
manual. My daughter printed out her Blackberry manual, and it took about a
ream of paper.

Steve


My cell phone is a Motorola V-197 it's been a tough little beast and
it's about as bare bones as you can get. i wouldn't say that its
really as bare bones as I let on, because you can get internet on it,
I suppose. I've looked up NY Times and MSN for news on it, but it's
slower than a dead dog. and it's not set up for text either. I dont'
know how much the Cellular one service costs, because the wife takes
care of all that. At least I'm not to the point where I feel like I'm
naked if I dont' have the cell phone with me.

Major problem with finding phones without cameras. Son in law works in a
secure area, and they are supposed to not have a camera.



Loogypicker[_2_] December 23rd 09 01:59 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
On Dec 22, 8:33*pm, "*e#c" wrote:
On Dec 22, 1:30*pm, No_Way wrote:





In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...


On 12/22/09 12:39 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:09 am, *wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:01:27 -0600, Vic Smith


*wrote:
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.


True. You'll see better performance on distances much greater than 10
miles... and, as noted, the thing can't know everything. My route to
work would *never* be chosen by the GPS, but it doesn't anticipate
traffic like school busses and morning congestion....


--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
* -Thomas Sowell


Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.


Homepage
* http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat..htm


Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186


I can apreciate those thoughts, Gene. I don't feel that theres a need
for me to have a Garmen at this time.


They are cool though.


My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.


It's Garmin, guys...not Garmen.


You're doing a VERY good job taking your little buddy's place as the
school marm.


--
WAFA is a cancer on society


And you've done a great job becoming the King Asshole Spoofer. Are you
still talking to your sock-puppets, " hotkey", or is it "whisper"
today?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Psssst. You're not on the right track there, but your (as usual) going
completely insane IS fun!!!

I am Tosk December 23rd 09 03:40 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
In article 3abb4c77-5ec8-4dc4-9568-2e708b062630
@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 22, 8:33*pm, "*e#c" wrote:
On Dec 22, 1:30*pm, No_Way wrote:





In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...


On 12/22/09 12:39 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:09 am, *wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:01:27 -0600, Vic Smith


*wrote:
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.


True. You'll see better performance on distances much greater than 10
miles... and, as noted, the thing can't know everything. My route to
work would *never* be chosen by the GPS, but it doesn't anticipate
traffic like school busses and morning congestion....


--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
* -Thomas Sowell


Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.


Homepage
* http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm


Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186


I can apreciate those thoughts, Gene. I don't feel that theres a need
for me to have a Garmen at this time.


They are cool though.


My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.


It's Garmin, guys...not Garmen.


You're doing a VERY good job taking your little buddy's place as the
school marm.


--
WAFA is a cancer on society


And you've done a great job becoming the King Asshole Spoofer. Are you
still talking to your sock-puppets, " hotkey", or is it "whisper"
today?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Psssst. You're not on the right track there, but your (as usual) going
completely insane IS fun!!!


It has been fun to watch him blame just about everyone depending on what
day it is..

Jim December 23rd 09 03:53 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
I am Tosk wrote:
In article 3abb4c77-5ec8-4dc4-9568-2e708b062630
@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com, says...
On Dec 22, 8:33 pm, "*e#c" wrote:
On Dec 22, 1:30 pm, No_Way wrote:





In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
On 12/22/09 12:39 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:09 am, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:01:27 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.
True. You'll see better performance on distances much greater than 10
miles... and, as noted, the thing can't know everything. My route to
work would *never* be chosen by the GPS, but it doesn't anticipate
traffic like school busses and morning congestion....
--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell
Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm
Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186
I can apreciate those thoughts, Gene. I don't feel that theres a need
for me to have a Garmen at this time.
They are cool though.
My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.
It's Garmin, guys...not Garmen.
You're doing a VERY good job taking your little buddy's place as the
school marm.
--
WAFA is a cancer on society
And you've done a great job becoming the King Asshole Spoofer. Are you
still talking to your sock-puppets, " hotkey", or is it "whisper"
today?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Psssst. You're not on the right track there, but your (as usual) going
completely insane IS fun!!!


It has been fun to watch him blame just about everyone depending on what
day it is..


Even Donnie thinks Slammer is a dummy.

Not_Now December 23rd 09 04:08 PM

I'm not a Garmen fan.
 
In article ,
says...

In article 3abb4c77-5ec8-4dc4-9568-2e708b062630
@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com,
says...

On Dec 22, 8:33*pm, "*e#c" wrote:
On Dec 22, 1:30*pm, No_Way wrote:





In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

On 12/22/09 12:39 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:09 am, *wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:01:27 -0600, Vic Smith

*wrote:
I still like it, but a man's got to know his GPS's limitations.

True. You'll see better performance on distances much greater than 10
miles... and, as noted, the thing can't know everything. My route to
work would *never* be chosen by the GPS, but it doesn't anticipate
traffic like school busses and morning congestion....

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
* -Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
* http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186

I can apreciate those thoughts, Gene. I don't feel that theres a need
for me to have a Garmen at this time.

They are cool though.

My son has some kind of mac phne where youtouch the screen and yoyu
can turn stuff topsy-turvy and the like. He has it on his phone and I
marvel at all of it. But to me its too cmplicated. Like teaching my
dad to work simple tasks on a computer. when he was 80.

It's Garmin, guys...not Garmen.

You're doing a VERY good job taking your little buddy's place as the
school marm.

--
WAFA is a cancer on society

And you've done a great job becoming the King Asshole Spoofer. Are you
still talking to your sock-puppets, " hotkey", or is it "whisper"
today?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Psssst. You're not on the right track there, but your (as usual) going
completely insane IS fun!!!


It has been fun to watch him blame just about everyone depending on what
day it is..


It's hard for him to think straight when he's going insane and acting
like cat getting sprayed with a garden hose!


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