SEATTLE -- The man who opened fire inside the Jewish Federation in
Seattle was found guilty Monday morning in his second trial.

After deliberating for three days following the end of the trial last
week, a King County jury found Naveed Haq guilty of murder, five
counts of attempted murder, unlawful imprisonment
and malicious harassment.

Haq, 34, had pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to the July 2006
shootings, in which Pam Waechter, the federation's 58-year-old
campaign director, was killed. Five employees - Cheryl Stumbo, Carol
Goldman, Dayna Klein, Christina Rexroad and Layla Bush - were wounded.

Haq's first trial ended last year with jurors deadlocked on whether he
was legally insane during the shooting spree on July 28, 2006.

In the second trial, jurors had to decide whether Haq should be
convicted and go to prison - or found not guilty by reason of insanity
and go to a mental hospital.

This time, prosecutors reduced the number of charges and a judge
allowed them to play recordings of Naveed Haq's phone conversations
with his mother while he was in jail.

In one conversation, he is heard to say, "Whatever, mom - I did it
purposefully." His mother says, "No, no, no, no." Haq says, "No, mom,
I did it by purpose. You'd be proud of me. Now I'm going to heaven."

Haq drove from his eastern Washington home to Seattle the day of the
attack and forced a teenage girl at gunpoint to let him into the
Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle. Once in the second-floor office,
he opened fire, shooting some people in their cubicles, some in the
hall and one, Pamela Waechter, fatally as she fled down a stairwell.

Prosecutors acknowledged Haq's history of mental illness, but focused
his opening statement on Haq's preparations in an effort to show that
his mind was clear that day.

Haq made several trips to gun stores in the weeks prior to the attack,
wrote two documents on his father's computer criticizing Israel and
U.S. policy in the Middle East and used MapQuest to find directions to
the center from his family's home in Pasco, 180 miles east of Seattle.

On his way to the Jewish center, he pulled off Interstate 5 and
test-fired his gun, prosecutors said, and when pulled over for driving
down a bus-only street in rush hour, he seemed normal to a police
officer.

In a recorded phone conversation after the shooting, Raz said, Haq
told his mother, "I did a very good thing. I did it for a good
reason."

"jps" wrote in message
news

SEATTLE -- The man who opened fire inside the Jewish Federation in
Seattle was found guilty Monday morning in his second trial.

After deliberating for three days following the end of the trial last
week, a King County jury found Naveed Haq guilty of murder, five
counts of attempted murder, unlawful imprisonment
and malicious harassment.

Haq, 34, had pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to the July 2006
shootings, in which Pam Waechter, the federation's 58-year-old
campaign director, was killed. Five employees - Cheryl Stumbo, Carol
Goldman, Dayna Klein, Christina Rexroad and Layla Bush - were wounded.

Haq's first trial ended last year with jurors deadlocked on whether he
was legally insane during the shooting spree on July 28, 2006.

In the second trial, jurors had to decide whether Haq should be
convicted and go to prison - or found not guilty by reason of insanity
and go to a mental hospital.

This time, prosecutors reduced the number of charges and a judge
allowed them to play recordings of Naveed Haq's phone conversations
with his mother while he was in jail.

In one conversation, he is heard to say, "Whatever, mom - I did it
purposefully." His mother says, "No, no, no, no." Haq says, "No, mom,
I did it by purpose. You'd be proud of me. Now I'm going to heaven."

Haq drove from his eastern Washington home to Seattle the day of the
attack and forced a teenage girl at gunpoint to let him into the
Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle. Once in the second-floor office,
he opened fire, shooting some people in their cubicles, some in the
hall and one, Pamela Waechter, fatally as she fled down a stairwell.

Prosecutors acknowledged Haq's history of mental illness, but focused
his opening statement on Haq's preparations in an effort to show that
his mind was clear that day.

Haq made several trips to gun stores in the weeks prior to the attack,
wrote two documents on his father's computer criticizing Israel and
U.S. policy in the Middle East and used MapQuest to find directions to
the center from his family's home in Pasco, 180 miles east of Seattle.

On his way to the Jewish center, he pulled off Interstate 5 and
test-fired his gun, prosecutors said, and when pulled over for driving
down a bus-only street in rush hour, he seemed normal to a police
officer.

In a recorded phone conversation after the shooting, Raz said, Haq
told his mother, "I did a very good thing. I did it for a good
reason."

So lets ban large knives while we are at it.
http://uhurunews.com/story?resource_...ortheast-congo

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...pg=6703,261484

jps wrote:
SEATTLE -- The man who opened fire inside the Jewish Federation in
Seattle was found guilty Monday morning in his second trial.

After deliberating for three days following the end of the trial last
week, a King County jury found Naveed Haq guilty of murder, five
counts of attempted murder, unlawful imprisonment
and malicious harassment.

Haq, 34, had pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to the July 2006
shootings, in which Pam Waechter, the federation's 58-year-old
campaign director, was killed. Five employees - Cheryl Stumbo, Carol
Goldman, Dayna Klein, Christina Rexroad and Layla Bush - were wounded.

Haq's first trial ended last year with jurors deadlocked on whether he
was legally insane during the shooting spree on July 28, 2006.

In the second trial, jurors had to decide whether Haq should be
convicted and go to prison - or found not guilty by reason of insanity
and go to a mental hospital.

This time, prosecutors reduced the number of charges and a judge
allowed them to play recordings of Naveed Haq's phone conversations
with his mother while he was in jail.

In one conversation, he is heard to say, "Whatever, mom - I did it
purposefully." His mother says, "No, no, no, no." Haq says, "No, mom,
I did it by purpose. You'd be proud of me. Now I'm going to heaven."

Haq drove from his eastern Washington home to Seattle the day of the
attack and forced a teenage girl at gunpoint to let him into the
Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle. Once in the second-floor office,
he opened fire, shooting some people in their cubicles, some in the
hall and one, Pamela Waechter, fatally as she fled down a stairwell.

Prosecutors acknowledged Haq's history of mental illness, but focused
his opening statement on Haq's preparations in an effort to show that
his mind was clear that day.

Haq made several trips to gun stores in the weeks prior to the attack,
wrote two documents on his father's computer criticizing Israel and
U.S. policy in the Middle East and used MapQuest to find directions to
the center from his family's home in Pasco, 180 miles east of Seattle.

On his way to the Jewish center, he pulled off Interstate 5 and
test-fired his gun, prosecutors said, and when pulled over for driving
down a bus-only street in rush hour, he seemed normal to a police
officer.

In a recorded phone conversation after the shooting, Raz said, Haq
told his mother, "I did a very good thing. I did it for a good
reason."

Does it surprise you that mentally unstable people can buy a gun?
Hell, I can not only buy guns, but I have a carry permit.

--
Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using
someone else's ID.

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:14:33 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:41:50 -0800, jps wrote:

Haq's first trial ended last year with jurors deadlocked on whether he
was legally insane during the shooting spree on July 28, 2006.

In the second trial, jurors had to decide whether Haq should be
convicted and go to prison - or found not guilty by reason of insanity
and go to a mental hospital.

This time, prosecutors reduced the number of charges and a judge
allowed them to play recordings of Naveed Haq's phone conversations
with his mother while he was in jail.

You want to punish somebody for this? Fine with me, the perps are
listed above.....

Somebody's already been punished for our lax laws. The woman who
died, her mother and father, her husband, her siblings, her children.

NRA execs should be strung up by the balls, right next to the ****ing
assholes who scammed every American of their savings so they could
walk away with millions in bonuses.

They're the same kind of scum.

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:28:32 -0800, jps wrote:



NRA execs should be strung up by the balls, right next to the ****ing
assholes who scammed every American of their savings so they could
walk away with millions in bonuses.

They're the same kind of scum.

You got that right, and I think we actually are fans of the same guy.

Guns:
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-152770891.html
"Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich built a reputation in Congress as a
gun-control advocate, a standing that's followed him to the governor's
office where his actions have won him the applause of leading
gun-control groups."

Wall Street:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aFq5WUR.AuXg
Dec. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich said the state
will suspend business with Bank of America Corp. until the lender
restores credit to the shuttered Republic Windows & Doors company in
Chicago where workers are staging a sit-in.

See? You had him all wrong.
Welcome aboard.

--Vic

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:51:16 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:28:32 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:14:33 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:41:50 -0800, jps wrote:

SNIPS

The NRA execs are operating legally under the protection of the 2nd
Amendment....

those "who scammed every American of their savings" are, in large part
(under existing law, else it should be ALL of them) operating afoul of
the law (moral, if not written).

Apples vs Oranges.

They're both morally bankrupt.

On Dec 15, 6:51*pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:28:32 -0800, jps wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:14:33 -0500, Gene
wrote:

The NRA execs are operating legally under the protection of the 2nd
Amendment....

Following Conservative values...


those "who scammed every American of their savings" are, in large part
(under existing law, else it should be ALL of them) operating afoul of
the law (moral, if not written).

While following, and being protected by, liberals.

On Dec 15, 5:56*pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:47:24 -0600, Vic Smith



wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:28:32 -0800, jps wrote:

NRA execs should be strung up by the balls, right next to the ****ing
assholes who scammed every American of their savings so they could
walk away with millions in bonuses.

They're the same kind of scum.

You got that right, and I think we actually are fans of the same guy.

Guns:
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-152770891.html
"Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich built a reputation in Congress as a
gun-control advocate, a standing that's followed him to the governor's
office where his actions have won him the applause of leading
gun-control groups."

Wall Street:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aFq5WUR.AuXg
Dec. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich said the state
will suspend business with Bank of America Corp. until the lender
restores credit to the shuttered Republic Windows & Doors company in
Chicago where workers are staging a sit-in.

See? *You had him all wrong.
Welcome aboard.

--Vic

Yep......http://tinyurl.com/y9dd8qc
--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
*-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
*http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186

LOL! That pic of Blaggie. I can't tell if he's rolling his eyes, or if
he's disgusted that he didn't use enough VO5 to control that mop of
his.

I like this one, Gene:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/s...bref=obnetwork

On 12/15/09 9:11 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 15, 5:56 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:47:24 -0600, Vic Smith



wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:28:32 -0800, wrote:

NRA execs should be strung up by the balls, right next to the ****ing
assholes who scammed every American of their savings so they could
walk away with millions in bonuses.

They're the same kind of scum.

You got that right, and I think we actually are fans of the same guy.

Guns:
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-152770891.html
"Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich built a reputation in Congress as a
gun-control advocate, a standing that's followed him to the governor's
office where his actions have won him the applause of leading
gun-control groups."

Wall Street:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aFq5WUR.AuXg
Dec. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich said the state
will suspend business with Bank of America Corp. until the lender
restores credit to the shuttered Republic Windows& Doors company in
Chicago where workers are staging a sit-in.

See? You had him all wrong.
Welcome aboard.

--Vic

Yep......http://tinyurl.com/y9dd8qc
--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186

LOL! That pic of Blaggie. I can't tell if he's rolling his eyes, or if
he's disgusted that he didn't use enough VO5 to control that mop of
his.

I like this one, Gene:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/s...bref=obnetwork


On the ladder of political integrity, Blaggo stands several rungs higher
than Aetna Joe.

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:11:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


LOL! That pic of Blaggie. I can't tell if he's rolling his eyes, or if
he's disgusted that he didn't use enough VO5 to control that mop of
his.

VO5 was good stuff, a lot better than Brylcream or Vitalis.
But Rod don't need it. He's a natural. Blessed.

--Vic