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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Dec 14, 9:17 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012. Why? Since you seem to think Obama is so bad, the polar opposite would be Palin. -- Nom=de=Plume palin is not the President, and she should be more closely compared the VEEP. Biden. Talk about the Peter Principal. Exactly my point. Palin is not the President (or VP) THANK GOD! -- Nom=de=Plume Unfortunately we have what we got. |
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On Dec 15, 2:08*pm, "Anony Mouse" wrote:
"Loogypicker" wrote in message ... On Dec 15, 11:19 am, "Anony Mouse" wrote: "Loogypicker" wrote in message .... On Dec 14, 8:17 pm, John H wrote: There are even some folks right here who think Obama is doing good. -- John H There's some folks right here that don't think Obama has done anything right. Of course, their heads are in the sand just because they hate anything liberal. He's slowed down the recession that 'ush got us into Saved Wall Street Saved the collapse of the auto industry Shifted the war focus from Iraq BACK TO Afghanistan where we needed to be. Worked to relax anti-American tensions Closing the torture camp Gitmo Has made the environment a national priority, and a primary source for job creation Made education an national priority. Is trying to ensure that all Americans have access to health care. Restored credibility to the American Presidency where the world is looking to him to lead America out of unilateralism and back into multilateral global cooperation Be sure to ask for a second helping of Kool-Ade.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Which of those do you disagree with and why? OR do you not have anything substantial and instead resort to the Harry plan and just try to shoot the messenger? All of the above. You sound like Harry - all bluster - mouthing the party line without question. Occasionally Harry thinks for himself, at which time he lays low for a day or so. Enough said on this topic.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Please read the question again. I specifically asked: Which of those do you disagree with and why? OR do you not have anything substantial and instead resort to the Harry plan and just try to shoot the messenger? |
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Dec 14, 9:17 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012. Why? Since you seem to think Obama is so bad, the polar opposite would be Palin. -- Nom=de=Plume palin is not the President, and she should be more closely compared the VEEP. Biden. Talk about the Peter Principal. Exactly my point. Palin is not the President (or VP) THANK GOD! -- Nom=de=Plume Unfortunately we have what we got. Seems like he's trying to fix the mess Bush left. So, compared to what we could have gotten, I'm pretty happy. Of course, the "compared to" isn't saying much. At least he has a functioning brain. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:34:50 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote: Shifted the war focus from Iraq BACK TO Afghanistan where we needed to be. Just heard that Obama is increasing the war contractor ranks to unprecedented levels. Guy who wrote the Blackwater book was talking on MSNBC. Said both Obama and Hillary were railing about them when they were campaigning. Now Blackwater guards Hillary when she's overseas. Calls them "War Corporations." There's about 600 of the corporations, doing everything from cooking to fighting for the military. Big money. Said it'll stay that way without bringing the draft back. Just what he said, as I don't know the details. Wish there had been a Blackwater chef on my Navy can. Surely would have been an improvement in the cuisine. fart Just had a big bowl of Navy bean soup my wife brought home from work. Now she's a cook. Blackwater or Navy can't touch her. --Vic |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Dec 14, 9:17 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012. Why? Since you seem to think Obama is so bad, the polar opposite would be Palin. -- Nom=de=Plume palin is not the President, and she should be more closely compared the VEEP. Biden. Talk about the Peter Principal. Exactly my point. Palin is not the President (or VP) THANK GOD! -- Nom=de=Plume Unfortunately we have what we got. Seems like he's trying to fix the mess Bush left. So, compared to what we could have gotten, I'm pretty happy. Of course, the "compared to" isn't saying much. At least he has a functioning brain. -- Nom=de=Plume But it is functioning more as a conduit for crap ideas. |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Dec 14, 9:17 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012. Why? Since you seem to think Obama is so bad, the polar opposite would be Palin. -- Nom=de=Plume palin is not the President, and she should be more closely compared the VEEP. Biden. Talk about the Peter Principal. Exactly my point. Palin is not the President (or VP) THANK GOD! -- Nom=de=Plume Unfortunately we have what we got. Seems like he's trying to fix the mess Bush left. So, compared to what we could have gotten, I'm pretty happy. Of course, the "compared to" isn't saying much. At least he has a functioning brain. -- Nom=de=Plume But it is functioning more as a conduit for crap ideas. Sort of like yours? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 12/16/09 4:54 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Dec 14, 9:17 pm, wrote: Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012. Why? Since you seem to think Obama is so bad, the polar opposite would be Palin. -- Nom=de=Plume palin is not the President, and she should be more closely compared the VEEP. Biden. Talk about the Peter Principal. Exactly my point. Palin is not the President (or VP) THANK GOD! -- Nom=de=Plume Unfortunately we have what we got. Seems like he's trying to fix the mess Bush left. So, compared to what we could have gotten, I'm pretty happy. Of course, the "compared to" isn't saying much. At least he has a functioning brain. -- Nom=de=Plume But it is functioning more as a conduit for crap ideas. Sort of like yours? McKee is a reconstructed "dixiecrat" who didn't get the memo about switching to the GOP. |
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On Dec 16, 3:59*pm, Harry wrote:
On 12/16/09 4:54 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill *wrote in message ... *wrote in message ... *wrote in message news:NPKdnQVkm9G7F7XWnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@earthlink .com... *wrote in message ... "Bill *wrote in message ... *wrote in message ... *wrote in message ... On Dec 14, 9:17 pm, *wrote: Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012. Why? Since you seem to think Obama is so bad, the polar opposite would be Palin. -- Nom=de=Plume palin is not the President, and she should be more closely compared the VEEP. *Biden. *Talk about the Peter Principal. Exactly my point. Palin is not the President (or VP) THANK GOD! -- Nom=de=Plume Unfortunately we have what we got. Seems like he's trying to fix the mess Bush left. So, compared to what we could have gotten, I'm pretty happy. Of course, the "compared to" isn't saying much. At least he has a functioning brain. -- Nom=de=Plume But it is functioning more as a conduit for crap ideas. Sort of like yours? McKee is a reconstructed "dixiecrat" who didn't get the memo about switching to the GOP. herr Krause. What were you saying about democrats? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1261...Most_P opular |
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"Harry" wrote in message ... On 12/16/09 4:54 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Dec 14, 9:17 pm, wrote: Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012. Why? Since you seem to think Obama is so bad, the polar opposite would be Palin. -- Nom=de=Plume palin is not the President, and she should be more closely compared the VEEP. Biden. Talk about the Peter Principal. Exactly my point. Palin is not the President (or VP) THANK GOD! -- Nom=de=Plume Unfortunately we have what we got. Seems like he's trying to fix the mess Bush left. So, compared to what we could have gotten, I'm pretty happy. Of course, the "compared to" isn't saying much. At least he has a functioning brain. -- Nom=de=Plume But it is functioning more as a conduit for crap ideas. Sort of like yours? McKee is a reconstructed "dixiecrat" who didn't get the memo about switching to the GOP. I am an equal opportunity disliker. Both the Republicans and the Democrats suck. At the present, the Democrats suck more as they are in control and screwing us big time. How about Howard Dean's take on the health care bill? |
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... "Harry" wrote in message ... On 12/16/09 4:54 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Dec 14, 9:17 pm, wrote: Then, I suggest you vote for Palin in 2012. Why? Since you seem to think Obama is so bad, the polar opposite would be Palin. -- Nom=de=Plume palin is not the President, and she should be more closely compared the VEEP. Biden. Talk about the Peter Principal. Exactly my point. Palin is not the President (or VP) THANK GOD! -- Nom=de=Plume Unfortunately we have what we got. Seems like he's trying to fix the mess Bush left. So, compared to what we could have gotten, I'm pretty happy. Of course, the "compared to" isn't saying much. At least he has a functioning brain. -- Nom=de=Plume But it is functioning more as a conduit for crap ideas. Sort of like yours? McKee is a reconstructed "dixiecrat" who didn't get the memo about switching to the GOP. I am an equal opportunity disliker. Both the Republicans and the Democrats suck. At the present, the Democrats suck more as they are in control and screwing us big time. How about Howard Dean's take on the health care bill? I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with reconciliation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconci...tates_Congress) -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:15:37 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: I am an equal opportunity disliker. Both the Republicans and the Democrats suck. At the present, the Democrats suck more as they are in control and screwing us big time. How about Howard Dean's take on the health care bill? Hee, hee. The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the Republicans. Pass the popcorn. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
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On Dec 17, 7:03*am, John H wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:15:37 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: I am an equal opportunity disliker. *Both the Republicans and the Democrats suck. *At the present, the Democrats suck more as they are in control and screwing us big time. *How about Howard Dean's take on the health care bill? Hee, hee. The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the Republicans. Pass the popcorn. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name correctly, huh? That's just sad. |
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"Loogypicker" wrote in message
... On Dec 17, 7:03 am, John H wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:15:37 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: I am an equal opportunity disliker. Both the Republicans and the Democrats suck. At the present, the Democrats suck more as they are in control and screwing us big time. How about Howard Dean's take on the health care bill? Hee, hee. The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the Republicans. Pass the popcorn. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name correctly, huh? That's just sad. Very sad... says a lot about John. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote:
Hee, hee. The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the Republicans. Pass the popcorn. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name correctly, huh? That's just sad. Very sad... says a lot about John. Yeah, and he hasn't noticed the Democrats falling numbers haven't shown a corresponding rise in Republican numbers. I would say, what you are seeing is a disgust in all things Washington, and they wonder why there is voter apathy. If the Democrats don't pass adequate health care reform, it will hurt them, but I see that as hurting the country, not helping the "Party of No". |
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"thunder" wrote in message
t... On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote: Hee, hee. The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the Republicans. Pass the popcorn. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name correctly, huh? That's just sad. Very sad... says a lot about John. Yeah, and he hasn't noticed the Democrats falling numbers haven't shown a corresponding rise in Republican numbers. I would say, what you are seeing is a disgust in all things Washington, and they wonder why there is voter apathy. If the Democrats don't pass adequate health care reform, it will hurt them, but I see that as hurting the country, not helping the "Party of No". Absolutely. And, while hurting them, it's doubtful that they'll lose either the Senate or the House in 2010. Then, they can try again to pass something, perhaps with reconciliation. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 12/17/09 2:26 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message t... On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote: Hee, hee. The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the Republicans. Pass the popcorn. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name correctly, huh? That's just sad. Very sad... says a lot about John. Yeah, and he hasn't noticed the Democrats falling numbers haven't shown a corresponding rise in Republican numbers. I would say, what you are seeing is a disgust in all things Washington, and they wonder why there is voter apathy. If the Democrats don't pass adequate health care reform, it will hurt them, but I see that as hurting the country, not helping the "Party of No". Absolutely. And, while hurting them, it's doubtful that they'll lose either the Senate or the House in 2010. Then, they can try again to pass something, perhaps with reconciliation. I think they could and should have gone the reconciliation route from the beginning. By now, we'd have signed legislation and laws ready to go into effect. It's been obvious from the beginning that the republicans were not going to sign onto anything, no matter what concessions they were tossed. |
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:40:58 -0600, thunder
wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote: Hee, hee. The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the Republicans. Pass the popcorn. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name correctly, huh? That's just sad. Very sad... says a lot about John. Yeah, and he hasn't noticed the Democrats falling numbers haven't shown a corresponding rise in Republican numbers. I would say, what you are seeing is a disgust in all things Washington, and they wonder why there is voter apathy. If the Democrats don't pass adequate health care reform, it will hurt them, but I see that as hurting the country, not helping the "Party of No". Don't be too sad. I'm OK. If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care plan, it would probably pass. To blame the non-passage on the Republicans is very Reid-like, but also bull****. If this health plan is so great, why hasn't it been made public? Why are Republican senators prevented from seeing the bill? Read this. It's from a liberal newspaper, so it must be true. http://tinyurl.com/y8tlw2l In the meantime, keep blaming the Republicans for the bill not passing. Not even Howard Dean does that. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
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wrote in message
... On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Loogypicker" wrote in message ... On Dec 17, 7:03 am, John H wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:15:37 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: I am an equal opportunity disliker. Both the Republicans and the Democrats suck. At the present, the Democrats suck more as they are in control and screwing us big time. How about Howard Dean's take on the health care bill? Hee, hee. The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the Republicans. Pass the popcorn. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name correctly, huh? That's just sad. Very sad... says a lot about John. I will point out, you reap what you sow. I remember the way the left mangled Bush's name. Either you respect the office or personal attacks are fine, your choice. ?? If you're saying that because one person does a bad thing, that gives license for another to do a bad thing, I'm sorry, but that's complete bs. It's wrong, it's certainly anti-Christian, and it's very, very short-sighted. I have always respected the office of the President, the office of a senator/representative. That doesn't mean they get a get-out-of-jail free card, like Bush and Cheney have received so far. That's quite different from scripted screaming at a townhall meeting. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Dec 17, 2:41*pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:32:27 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Loogypicker" wrote in message .... On Dec 17, 7:03 am, John H wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:15:37 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: I am an equal opportunity disliker. Both the Republicans and the Democrats suck. At the present, the Democrats suck more as they are in control and screwing us big time. How about Howard Dean's take on the health care bill? Hee, hee. The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the Republicans. Pass the popcorn. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name correctly, huh? That's just sad. Very sad... says a lot about John. I will point out, you reap what you sow. I remember the way the left mangled Bush's name. Either you respect the office or personal attacks are fine, your choice. I have great respect for the office. It's the current occupant I find somewhat problematic. I guess I'm just not in favor of the government running everything. The Russians tried it, even added 'socialist' to the name of their country. The folks who got ahead were not the common folks, they were the politicians who had the good spots in the government. Liberals just can't seem to understand that. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There you go. Lumping all liberals into you very narrow minded definition. |
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On Dec 17, 3:23*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:32:27 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Loogypicker" wrote in message .... On Dec 17, 7:03 am, John H wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:15:37 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: I am an equal opportunity disliker. Both the Republicans and the Democrats suck. At the present, the Democrats suck more as they are in control and screwing us big time. How about Howard Dean's take on the health care bill? Hee, hee. The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the Republicans. Pass the popcorn. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name correctly, huh? That's just sad. Very sad... says a lot about John. I will point out, you reap what you sow. I remember the way the left mangled Bush's name. Either you respect the office or personal attacks are fine, your choice. I have great respect for the office. It's the current occupant I find somewhat problematic. I guess I'm just not in favor of the government running everything. The Russians tried it, even added 'socialist' to the name of their country. The folks who got ahead were not the common folks, they were the politicians who had the good spots in the government. Liberals just can't seem to understand that. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H No, you're just lying. You don't have any respect for the office. If you did, you'd refer to the current holder as President Obama vs. your *******ization of his name. You would stand if he entered a room you were in, and you certainly wouldn't yell _liar_ in a joint session of Congress.. Your continued lying about the "government takeover" is disgusting and disquieting. -- Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's all they have! The scare tactics of the pundits. |
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:34:22 -0500, John H wrote:
Yeah, and he hasn't noticed the Democrats falling numbers haven't shown a corresponding rise in Republican numbers. I would say, what you are seeing is a disgust in all things Washington, and they wonder why there is voter apathy. If the Democrats don't pass adequate health care reform, it will hurt them, but I see that as hurting the country, not helping the "Party of No". Don't be too sad. I'm OK. If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care plan, it would probably pass. To blame the non-passage on the Republicans is very Reid-like, but also bull****. If this health plan is so great, why hasn't it been made public? Why are Republican senators prevented from seeing the bill? Read this. It's from a liberal newspaper, so it must be true. http://tinyurl.com/y8tlw2l In the meantime, keep blaming the Republicans for the bill not passing. Not even Howard Dean does that. Read for content, John. I didn't blame the Republicans for the bill not passing. The Republican party is irrelevant, and it will remain irrelevant until they get there house in order. Pandering to their "base", all 20% of the population, will keep them irrelevant. |
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:16:01 -0600, thunder
wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:34:22 -0500, John H wrote: Yeah, and he hasn't noticed the Democrats falling numbers haven't shown a corresponding rise in Republican numbers. I would say, what you are seeing is a disgust in all things Washington, and they wonder why there is voter apathy. If the Democrats don't pass adequate health care reform, it will hurt them, but I see that as hurting the country, not helping the "Party of No". Don't be too sad. I'm OK. If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care plan, it would probably pass. To blame the non-passage on the Republicans is very Reid-like, but also bull****. If this health plan is so great, why hasn't it been made public? Why are Republican senators prevented from seeing the bill? Read this. It's from a liberal newspaper, so it must be true. http://tinyurl.com/y8tlw2l In the meantime, keep blaming the Republicans for the bill not passing. Not even Howard Dean does that. Read for content, John. I didn't blame the Republicans for the bill not passing. The Republican party is irrelevant, and it will remain irrelevant until they get there house in order. Pandering to their "base", all 20% of the population, will keep them irrelevant. You're right. I misread. I thought your reference to the "Party of No" was a jab at Republicans. But it seems as if the Democrats are doing it to themselves. If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care bill it would pass with support from both sides. It would also stand the test of daylight. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:56:00 -0500, John H wrote:
If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care bill it would pass with support from both sides. It would also stand the test of daylight. Garbage. "If we’re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo. It will break him." Want to guess who said that? It doesn't sound much like they are interested in health care, just interested in defeating Obama. |
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:33:23 -0600, thunder
wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:56:00 -0500, John H wrote: If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care bill it would pass with support from both sides. It would also stand the test of daylight. Garbage. "If we’re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo. It will break him." Want to guess who said that? It doesn't sound much like they are interested in health care, just interested in defeating Obama. I don't know and don't care. Nor do I agree with the comment. I stand by the comment I made above. The key word is 'adequate', which doesn't mean hidden or hurried. (Neither of which you seem willing to address.) -- Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
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"John H" wrote in message
... On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:33:23 -0600, thunder wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:56:00 -0500, John H wrote: If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care bill it would pass with support from both sides. It would also stand the test of daylight. Garbage. "If we're able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo. It will break him." Want to guess who said that? It doesn't sound much like they are interested in health care, just interested in defeating Obama. I don't know and don't care. Nor do I agree with the comment. I stand by the comment I made above. The key word is 'adequate', which doesn't mean hidden or hurried. (Neither of which you seem willing to address.) -- Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year! John H The current batch of Republicans in Congress have no interest in reform. They've shown this over and over to be the case. The current batch of Democrats in Congress have no spine. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "thunder" wrote in message t... On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote: Hee, hee. The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the Republicans. Pass the popcorn. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name correctly, huh? That's just sad. Very sad... says a lot about John. Yeah, and he hasn't noticed the Democrats falling numbers haven't shown a corresponding rise in Republican numbers. I would say, what you are seeing is a disgust in all things Washington, and they wonder why there is voter apathy. If the Democrats don't pass adequate health care reform, it will hurt them, but I see that as hurting the country, not helping the "Party of No". Absolutely. And, while hurting them, it's doubtful that they'll lose either the Senate or the House in 2010. Then, they can try again to pass something, perhaps with reconciliation. -- Nom=de=Plume If they pass this pile of crap "health care" bill, I see a lot of them being unemployed after the next election. And I am starting to hear that the congress critters are coming to grips with the same thing. 61%+ of the people think this bill is crap, and unless the congress critters can get enough money from the lobbiests to retire, they are going to abandon this thing. |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "thunder" wrote in message t... On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:24:55 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote: Hee, hee. The Democrats are in a free fall, but 'Bama keeps blaming the Republicans. Pass the popcorn. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H Your blind hatred still won't allow you to spell your president's name correctly, huh? That's just sad. Very sad... says a lot about John. Yeah, and he hasn't noticed the Democrats falling numbers haven't shown a corresponding rise in Republican numbers. I would say, what you are seeing is a disgust in all things Washington, and they wonder why there is voter apathy. If the Democrats don't pass adequate health care reform, it will hurt them, but I see that as hurting the country, not helping the "Party of No". Absolutely. And, while hurting them, it's doubtful that they'll lose either the Senate or the House in 2010. Then, they can try again to pass something, perhaps with reconciliation. -- Nom=de=Plume If they pass this pile of crap "health care" bill, I see a lot of them being unemployed after the next election. And I am starting to hear that the congress critters are coming to grips with the same thing. 61%+ of the people think this bill is crap, and unless the congress critters can get enough money from the lobbiests to retire, they are going to abandon this thing. I doubt the percentage is so high. There's no clear idea in the public's mind of what's in the bill, thanks to the right. There several good things in there, but it doesn't go anywhere far enough. There will be repercussions for the Dems if they don't pass something meaningful. And, the Reps are not benefiting politically, since they're so extreme. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with reconciliation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconci...tates_Congress) -- Nom=de=Plume My understanding is that the reconciliation process is after a bill is approved and is then negotiated and adjusted with consideration to budgets. You can't have reconciliation on the pertinent points of a bill during the voting process. There's nothing to reconciliate. (if that's a word) Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message ... I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with reconciliation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconci...tates_Congress) -- Nom=de=Plume My understanding is that the reconciliation process is after a bill is approved and is then negotiated and adjusted with consideration to budgets. You can't have reconciliation on the pertinent points of a bill during the voting process. There's nothing to reconciliate. (if that's a word) Eisboch It's reconcile, but who's counting? Rob |
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On 12/17/09 8:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message ... I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with reconciliation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconci...tates_Congress) -- Nom=de=Plume My understanding is that the reconciliation process is after a bill is approved and is then negotiated and adjusted with consideration to budgets. You can't have reconciliation on the pertinent points of a bill during the voting process. There's nothing to reconciliate. (if that's a word) Eisboch "Reconciliate" is indeed a word, though a tad obscure. You can find it in a proper dictionary. |
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"Harry" wrote in message m... On 12/17/09 8:11 PM, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with reconciliation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconci...tates_Congress) -- Nom=de=Plume My understanding is that the reconciliation process is after a bill is approved and is then negotiated and adjusted with consideration to budgets. You can't have reconciliation on the pertinent points of a bill during the voting process. There's nothing to reconciliate. (if that's a word) Eisboch "Reconciliate" is indeed a word, though a tad obscure. You can find it in a proper dictionary. That's me. Obscure. |
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On 12/17/09 8:54 PM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message m... On 12/17/09 8:11 PM, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with reconciliation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconci...tates_Congress) -- Nom=de=Plume My understanding is that the reconciliation process is after a bill is approved and is then negotiated and adjusted with consideration to budgets. You can't have reconciliation on the pertinent points of a bill during the voting process. There's nothing to reconciliate. (if that's a word) Eisboch "Reconciliate" is indeed a word, though a tad obscure. You can find it in a proper dictionary. That's me. Obscure. Better to be obscure than familiar. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with reconciliation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconci...tates_Congress) -- Nom=de=Plume My understanding is that the reconciliation process is after a bill is approved and is then negotiated and adjusted with consideration to budgets. You can't have reconciliation on the pertinent points of a bill during the voting process. There's nothing to reconciliate. (if that's a word) Eisboch Actually, you can. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconci...tates_Congress) The Byrd Rule (which is supposed to limit its use) is just a convention, which has been ignored before. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:54:03 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Harry" wrote in message om... On 12/17/09 8:11 PM, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with reconciliation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconci...tates_Congress) -- Nom=de=Plume My understanding is that the reconciliation process is after a bill is approved and is then negotiated and adjusted with consideration to budgets. You can't have reconciliation on the pertinent points of a bill during the voting process. There's nothing to reconciliate. (if that's a word) Eisboch "Reconciliate" is indeed a word, though a tad obscure. You can find it in a proper dictionary. That's me. Obscure. Well, you have been. But the plum can use some folks to argue with her. Good to see you're back. -- Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
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On Dec 17, 8:55*pm, Harry wrote:
On 12/17/09 8:54 PM, Eisboch wrote: *wrote in message om... On 12/17/09 8:11 PM, Eisboch wrote: * wrote in message ... I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with reconciliation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconci...tates_Congress) -- Nom=de=Plume My understanding is that the reconciliation process is after a bill is approved and is then negotiated and adjusted with consideration to budgets. *You can't have reconciliation on the pertinent points of a bill during the voting process. *There's nothing to reconciliate. (if that's a word) Eisboch "Reconciliate" is indeed a word, though a tad obscure. You can find it in a proper dictionary. That's me. *Obscure. Better to be obscure than familiar.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Why don't YOU go be obscure instead of familiar then? Most of us here would like that. |
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On Dec 17, 8:23*pm, Rob wrote:
Eisboch wrote: *wrote in message ... I think Dean is right. It should be handled as best as possible with reconciliation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconci...tates_Congress) -- Nom=de=Plume My understanding is that the reconciliation process is after a bill is approved and is then negotiated and adjusted with consideration to budgets. *You can't have reconciliation on the pertinent points of a bill during the voting process. *There's nothing to reconciliate. (if that's a word) Eisboch It's reconcile, but who's counting? Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don the rec.boats keystone cop of typos and spelling, that's who! |
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On Dec 17, 5:33*pm, thunder wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:56:00 -0500, John H wrote: If the Democrats would propose an adequate health care bill it would pass with support from both sides. It would also stand the test of daylight. Garbage. *"If we’re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo. It will break him." *Want to guess who said that? *It doesn't sound much like they are interested in health care, just interested in defeating Obama. Yes, indeed! That is all most of the republicans want. Hateful, bigoted, intolerant. |
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