bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:42:41 -0500, lil abner wrote:

jps wrote:
Here's a man with some sense...

PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. ? Jack Nicklaus said the fallout over Tiger
Woods' car crash and allegations of extramarital affairs is "none of
my business."

"Our public is pretty forgiving at times," Nicklaus said Thursday.
"Time usually heals all wounds. I think the hardest thing is obviously
his family. That's a private matter for him and his family."

Nicklaus won 18 major championships, the most in golf history. Woods
is second with 14.
That's where society is at. Forgive cheating on the family. Forgive
cheating on American Citizens and our Constitution.
Forgive every immoral or criminal act.
Hell, anything goes. That's the modern Hollywood theme. That's the
liberal thing.

effect tiger woods had on my 401K: zero

effect the rich right wingers in the GOP had: -35%

that's the conservative thing.

Oh, and if you are still down 35%, fire your investment manager. Me, I
am up 25%. Mind you neither myself nor my accountant are into close
your eyes to the obvious liberal dimwitt mismangement of debt and currency.

Yes, I took a dip just like everyone else, but it was a lifetime
opportunity that has been handed to us by the dimwitt congress. You can
make serious money in turbulant times.

I guess I should thank democratic congress for screwing up so bad.
Starting with Clintons liberalization of bank lending and compounded by
democratic congress, being the worst debtors in mankinds history. See,
you liberal dimwitts ignore that Bush/obama's budgets all came from a
debt willing congress.

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:18:37 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:42:41 -0500, lil abner wrote:


effect tiger woods had on my 401K: zero

effect the rich right wingers in the GOP had: -35%

that's the conservative thing.

Oh, and if you are still down 35%, fire your investment manager

i'm not. obama's stimulus package has restored SOME value...

.. Me, I
am up 25%. Mind you neither myself nor my accountant are into close
your eyes to the obvious liberal dimwitt mismangement of debt and currency.

ROFLMAO!! the right wing thinks obama's been president for the last 8
years...


I guess I should thank democratic congress for screwing up so bad.

like i said...he thinks the dems have run the country for the last 8
years....

i guess to the right wing, bush was a democrat...


Starting with Clintons liberalization of bank lending

in a bill authored by the GOP phil gramm and his enron VP
wife....pushin the 'free market' fundamentalism that dominated
economic thinking for the last 30 years.

and compounded by
democratic congress, being the worst debtors in mankinds history. See,
you liberal dimwitts ignore that Bush/obama's budgets all came from a
debt willing congress.

really? the biggest spender in history was george bush, with reagan
not far behind

oh well, i guess the right wing cant count...

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:18:37 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:42:41 -0500, lil abner wrote:

effect tiger woods had on my 401K: zero

effect the rich right wingers in the GOP had: -35%

that's the conservative thing.
Oh, and if you are still down 35%, fire your investment manager

i'm not. obama's stimulus package has restored SOME value...

. Me, I
am up 25%. Mind you neither myself nor my accountant are into close
your eyes to the obvious liberal dimwitt mismangement of debt and currency.

ROFLMAO!! the right wing thinks obama's been president for the last 8
years...

I guess I should thank democratic congress for screwing up so bad.

like i said...he thinks the dems have run the country for the last 8
years....

i guess to the right wing, bush was a democrat...

Nope, Bush be GOP, but did the democrat congressional budget. Makes me
wonder if they teach the Americans how governent works in DC. Bush nor
Obama dictate the budget, it needs congress for that.

If anything, you can blame democrate congress AND both of Bush and
Obama. Obama did $1.3 trillion debt-corruption-spend in just 8 months
in office! I would not doubt that is an all time recorded even compard
to 9/11.

Starting with Clintons liberalization of bank lending

in a bill authored by the GOP phil gramm and his enron VP
wife....pushin the 'free market' fundamentalism that dominated
economic thinking for the last 30 years.

Might have been, but Clinton being a democrat liberal, cheap loan money
was more important than economic stability.

and compounded by
democratic congress, being the worst debtors in mankinds history. See,
you liberal dimwitts ignore that Bush/obama's budgets all came from a
debt willing congress.

really? the biggest spender in history was george bush, with reagan
not far behind

oh well, i guess the right wing cant count...


It took Bush 8 years with democrat congressional full support for Bush,
Obama on the other hand is accumulation debt 5 times the rate, if not
more. At Obama's rate, he will double the US national debt in under 8
years. By comparison, Bush wasn't that bad.

DC mentality, either party is a debt-corruption mentality. The
depression will not end until it is cleaned up a bit. Society can't
afford the size of government any longer.

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:22:36 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:18:37 -0700, Canuck57


I guess I should thank democratic congress for screwing up so bad.

like i said...he thinks the dems have run the country for the last 8
years....

i guess to the right wing, bush was a democrat...

Nope, Bush be GOP, but did the democrat congressional budget. Makes me
wonder if they teach the Americans how governent works in DC. Bush nor
Obama dictate the budget, it needs congress for that.

and the pres proposes his own budget. the congress does not decide
alone. that's the reality on capitol hill


If anything, you can blame democrate congress AND both of Bush and
Obama. Obama did $1.3 trillion debt-corruption-spend in just 8 months
in office! I would not doubt that is an all time recorded even compard
to 9/11.

he did it to rescue the country from the free market fundamentalism of
the GOP congresss from 1980 to the present.

it's sound economics. if you've ever taken an economics course, it's
standard economic theory. if the consumer collapses, SOMEONE has to
step in to take up the slack otherwise the economy collapses

free market fundies raped the middle class and transferred our money
to their pockets. it's why the weathiest 1% own a huge amount of the
wealth in this country


Starting with Clintons liberalization of bank lending

in a bill authored by the GOP phil gramm and his enron VP
wife....pushin the 'free market' fundamentalism that dominated
economic thinking for the last 30 years.

Might have been, but Clinton being a democrat liberal, cheap loan money
was more important than economic stability.

well, no. clinton had a GOP congress and was a wounded president. the
GOP congress took advantage of it.


and compounded by
democratic congress, being the worst debtors in mankinds history. See,
you liberal dimwitts ignore that Bush/obama's budgets all came from a
debt willing congress.

really? the biggest spender in history was george bush, with reagan
not far behind

oh well, i guess the right wing cant count...


It took Bush 8 years with democrat congressional full support for Bush,
Obama on the other hand is accumulation debt 5 times the rate, if not
more. At Obama's rate, he will double the US national debt in under 8
years. By comparison, Bush wasn't that bad.

and the collapse of the economy engineered by the GOP over the last 30
years calls for drastic measures.

this is merely a reflection of the destructive path the GOP has forged
with its dedication to making the rich richer


DC mentality, either party is a debt-corruption mentality. The
depression will not end until it is cleaned up a bit. Society can't
afford the size of government any longer.

we can't afford the free market fundamentalism of the GOP

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:22:36 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


Nope, Bush be GOP, but did the democrat congressional budget. Makes me
wonder if they teach the Americans how governent works in DC. Bush nor
Obama dictate the budget, it needs congress for that.

Actually, the President does dictate the budget.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=155

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:22:36 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


Nope, Bush be GOP, but did the democrat congressional budget. Makes me
wonder if they teach the Americans how governent works in DC. Bush nor
Obama dictate the budget, it needs congress for that.

Actually, the President does dictate the budget.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=155

What is the first thing that the House does with the budget when they
receive it from the president? Throw it on the shelf.

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:04:42 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:22:36 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


Nope, Bush be GOP, but did the democrat congressional budget. Makes me
wonder if they teach the Americans how governent works in DC. Bush nor
Obama dictate the budget, it needs congress for that.

Actually, the President does dictate the budget.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=155

What is the first thing that the House does with the budget when they
receive it from the president? Throw it on the shelf.

and the pres does the same to the house budget when he gets it

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:04:42 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:22:36 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


Nope, Bush be GOP, but did the democrat congressional budget. Makes
me
wonder if they teach the Americans how governent works in DC. Bush
nor
Obama dictate the budget, it needs congress for that.

Actually, the President does dictate the budget.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=155

What is the first thing that the House does with the budget when they
receive it from the president? Throw it on the shelf.

and the pres does the same to the house budget when he gets it

Actually he can't do that. Either has to veto it or pass it. To pass it,
he either signs the bill or lets 10 days pass. The only time that can not
happen is on a "Pocket Veto". And most budgets are not passed less than 10
days before adjournment.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
news
bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:42:41 -0500, lil abner wrote:

jps wrote:
Here's a man with some sense...

PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. ? Jack Nicklaus said the fallout over Tiger
Woods' car crash and allegations of extramarital affairs is "none of
my business."

"Our public is pretty forgiving at times," Nicklaus said Thursday.
"Time usually heals all wounds. I think the hardest thing is obviously
his family. That's a private matter for him and his family."

Nicklaus won 18 major championships, the most in golf history. Woods
is second with 14.
That's where society is at. Forgive cheating on the family. Forgive
cheating on American Citizens and our Constitution.
Forgive every immoral or criminal act.
Hell, anything goes. That's the modern Hollywood theme. That's the
liberal thing.

effect tiger woods had on my 401K: zero

effect the rich right wingers in the GOP had: -35%

that's the conservative thing.

Oh, and if you are still down 35%, fire your investment manager. Me, I am
up 25%. Mind you neither myself nor my accountant are into close your
eyes to the obvious liberal dimwitt mismangement of debt and currency.

Yes, I took a dip just like everyone else, but it was a lifetime
opportunity that has been handed to us by the dimwitt congress. You can
make serious money in turbulant times.

I guess I should thank democratic congress for screwing up so bad.
Starting with Clintons liberalization of bank lending and compounded by
democratic congress, being the worst debtors in mankinds history. See,
you liberal dimwitts ignore that Bush/obama's budgets all came from a debt
willing congress.

Let's give credit to Carter who started it all with bank loan liberalization
to minorities.

Fair is fair.

Steve

effect the rich right wingers in the GOP had: -35%

that's the conservative thing.

Oh, and if you are still down 35%, fire your investment manager. Me, I am
up 25%. Mind you neither myself nor my accountant are into close your
eyes to the obvious liberal dimwitt mismangement of debt and currency.

Yes, I took a dip just like everyone else, but it was a lifetime
opportunity that has been handed to us by the dimwitt congress. You can
make serious money in turbulant times.

I guess I should thank democratic congress for screwing up so bad.
Starting with Clintons liberalization of bank lending and compounded by
democratic congress, being the worst debtors in mankinds history. See,
you liberal dimwitts ignore that Bush/obama's budgets all came from a debt
willing congress.

Let's give credit to Carter who started it all with bank loan liberalization
to minorities.

which had zip to do with the crisis