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It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already
39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't snow. |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Dec 5, 4:15*pm, Loogypicker wrote:
We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already 39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't snow. It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind, and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about 40-45 and rain, *UGH!* |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:04:24 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Dec 5, 4:15Â*pm, Loogypicker wrote: We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already 39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't snow. It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind, and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about 40-45 and rain, *UGH!* I'm thinking about getting a heater for the garage - just to take the chill off while doing car work. Any suggestions? Only have 15 amp going there, and I don't want to beef that up now, because I could run into trouble - old conduit under a new sidewalk. Might have to dig the old stuff out if the wires won't pull through. Running a natural gas line out there for a wall unit will be a big job too. I was thinking some kind of gasoline heat exchanger burning outside with the heat vented to the garage. I'd have to figure out a way to make a vent in the garage wall or door that wouldn't look too bad. Probably can't work that out. Cosmetics. When I did one painting job in an unheated repair garage with my brother we had a couple gas heaters going. Memory is dim, but they were salamander looking things, and put out good heat. Problem was we about died breathing that crap. Gave you a sore throat right away. Anyway, I just picked up a water pump and alt for my '93 Grand Am and have to replace them so I can dump my '90 Corsica, so I was thinking a heater would be nice. Used to do stuff like replace a starter on the street, laying on a piece of cardboard, snow blowing on me, wind howling, etc. Didn't think twice. Now here I am wanting my garage heated. Okay, think I'll just dress real heavy in layers, and come in the house to warm up once in a while. That'll work. It was good to thrash that out and get it solved. Thanks guys. --Vic |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:04:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 5, 4:15 pm, Loogypicker wrote: We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already 39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't snow. It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind, and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about 40-45 and rain, *UGH!* I'm thinking about getting a heater for the garage - just to take the chill off while doing car work. Any suggestions? Only have 15 amp going there, and I don't want to beef that up now, because I could run into trouble - old conduit under a new sidewalk. Might have to dig the old stuff out if the wires won't pull through. Running a natural gas line out there for a wall unit will be a big job too. I was thinking some kind of gasoline heat exchanger burning outside with the heat vented to the garage. I'd have to figure out a way to make a vent in the garage wall or door that wouldn't look too bad. Probably can't work that out. Cosmetics. When I did one painting job in an unheated repair garage with my brother we had a couple gas heaters going. Memory is dim, but they were salamander looking things, and put out good heat. Problem was we about died breathing that crap. Gave you a sore throat right away. Anyway, I just picked up a water pump and alt for my '93 Grand Am and have to replace them so I can dump my '90 Corsica, so I was thinking a heater would be nice. Used to do stuff like replace a starter on the street, laying on a piece of cardboard, snow blowing on me, wind howling, etc. Didn't think twice. Now here I am wanting my garage heated. Okay, think I'll just dress real heavy in layers, and come in the house to warm up once in a while. That'll work. It was good to thrash that out and get it solved. Thanks guys. --Vic My brothers-in-law who do drywall work always had the salamander heaters. I remember borrowing one way back in the late '70s for my basement. Most people around here who live outside the city and have detatched garages put in some type of wood burning stove. |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
Loogypicker wrote:
We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already 39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't snow. Any concerns about your OB motor? Rob |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:04:24 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 5, 4:15 pm, wrote: We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already 39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't snow. It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind, and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about 40-45 and rain, *UGH!* I'm thinking about getting a heater for the garage - just to take the chill off while doing car work. Any suggestions? Only have 15 amp going there, and I don't want to beef that up now, because I could run into trouble - old conduit under a new sidewalk. Might have to dig the old stuff out if the wires won't pull through. Running a natural gas line out there for a wall unit will be a big job too. I was thinking some kind of gasoline heat exchanger burning outside with the heat vented to the garage. I'd have to figure out a way to make a vent in the garage wall or door that wouldn't look too bad. Probably can't work that out. Cosmetics. When I did one painting job in an unheated repair garage with my brother we had a couple gas heaters going. Memory is dim, but they were salamander looking things, and put out good heat. Problem was we about died breathing that crap. Gave you a sore throat right away. Anyway, I just picked up a water pump and alt for my '93 Grand Am and have to replace them so I can dump my '90 Corsica, so I was thinking a heater would be nice. Used to do stuff like replace a starter on the street, laying on a piece of cardboard, snow blowing on me, wind howling, etc. Didn't think twice. Now here I am wanting my garage heated. Okay, think I'll just dress real heavy in layers, and come in the house to warm up once in a while. That'll work. It was good to thrash that out and get it solved. Thanks guys. --Vic Newer kerosene heaters are very good for you application. The tube-shaped "salamanders" are better suited for more open environments. Rob |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:06:34 -0500, Rob wrote:
Newer kerosene heaters are very good for you application. The tube-shaped "salamanders" are better suited for more open environments. I'll check into that. Last ones I've used didn't put out much heat, but maybe a big one will help enough to make it worthwhile. --Vic |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:35:09 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:06:34 -0500, Rob wrote: Newer kerosene heaters are very good for you application. The tube-shaped "salamanders" are better suited for more open environments. I'll check into that. Last ones I've used didn't put out much heat, but maybe a big one will help enough to make it worthwhile. --Vic They have propane space heaters, that will put out a fair deal of heat. I wouldn't suggest them for use on a daily basis $$$, but for taking the chill out on an occasional basis, they are considerably cleaner than most space heaters. |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:23:23 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:04:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 5, 4:15*pm, Loogypicker wrote: We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already 39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't snow. It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind, and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about 40-45 and rain, *UGH!* I'm thinking about getting a heater for the garage - just to take the chill off while doing car work. Any suggestions? Only have 15 amp going there, and I don't want to beef that up now, because I could run into trouble - old conduit under a new sidewalk. Might have to dig the old stuff out if the wires won't pull through. Running a natural gas line out there for a wall unit will be a big job too. I was thinking some kind of gasoline heat exchanger burning outside with the heat vented to the garage. I'd have to figure out a way to make a vent in the garage wall or door that wouldn't look too bad. Probably can't work that out. Cosmetics. When I did one painting job in an unheated repair garage with my brother we had a couple gas heaters going. Memory is dim, but they were salamander looking things, and put out good heat. Problem was we about died breathing that crap. Gave you a sore throat right away. Anyway, I just picked up a water pump and alt for my '93 Grand Am and have to replace them so I can dump my '90 Corsica, so I was thinking a heater would be nice. Used to do stuff like replace a starter on the street, laying on a piece of cardboard, snow blowing on me, wind howling, etc. Didn't think twice. Now here I am wanting my garage heated. Okay, think I'll just dress real heavy in layers, and come in the house to warm up once in a while. That'll work. It was good to thrash that out and get it solved. Thanks guys. --Vic Get yourself one of these. http://tinyurl.com/ykxht2t They're handy, can go to where you're working, and are big enough to knock off the chill. We've got a smaller one we use in the camper trailer and in the garage. It will heat the camper trailer nicely, but I use it just to knock the chill in the garage. Since I'm usually working in one place, it does well. -- John H |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Dec 5, 9:23*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:04:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 5, 4:15*pm, Loogypicker wrote: We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already 39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't snow. It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind, and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about 40-45 and rain, *UGH!* I'm thinking about getting a heater for the garage - just to take the chill off while doing car work. Any suggestions? Only have 15 amp going there, and I don't want to beef that up now, because I could run into trouble - old conduit under a new sidewalk. Might have to dig the old stuff out if the wires won't pull through. Running a natural gas line out there for a wall unit will be a big job too. I was thinking some kind of gasoline heat exchanger burning outside with the heat vented to the garage. *I'd have to figure out a way to make a vent in the garage wall or door that wouldn't look too bad. Probably can't work that out. *Cosmetics. When I did one painting job in an unheated repair garage with my brother we had a couple gas heaters going. *Memory is dim, but they were salamander looking things, and put out good heat. *Problem was we about died breathing that crap. Gave you a sore throat right away. Anyway, I just picked up a water pump and alt for my '93 Grand Am and have to replace them so I can dump my '90 Corsica, so I was thinking a heater would be nice. Used to do stuff like replace a starter on the street, laying on a piece of cardboard, snow blowing on me, wind howling, etc. Didn't think twice. *Now here I am wanting my garage heated. Okay, think I'll just dress real heavy in layers, and come in the house to warm up once in a while. *That'll work. It was good to thrash that out and get it solved. Thanks guys. --Vic I've got one of those kerosene wick heaters for my garage. They do a fantastic job, and also is nice when to power goes out in an ice storm. I remember when I lived in western NY and had to change a water pump on a very cold night in the dead of winter. My fingers didn't have any skin on them because they'd stick to the frozen parts. |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Dec 5, 10:03*pm, Rob wrote:
Loogypicker wrote: We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already 39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't snow. Any concerns about your OB motor? Rob Nah, it's good to go, but thanks for the reminder! |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 08:49:31 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote: I've got one of those kerosene wick heaters for my garage. They do a fantastic job, and also is nice when to power goes out in an ice storm. I remember when I lived in western NY and had to change a water pump on a very cold night in the dead of winter. My fingers didn't have any skin on them because they'd stick to the frozen parts. Yeah, looks like I'll go with that. There's a 23k BTU model that should take the chill off the garage. I really like the idea it can do double duty in the house if the power goes out. I always worry about that happening, and my pipes freezing. Even the kitchen stove needs electricity to open the oven gas valve. You can light the range burners though. Already decided I don't want a generator. Dan got me looking, and think I'll get this: http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Keros.../dp/B000A6D1IC Maybe 2 of them. Want to look locally first to avoid the shipping hit. Got plenty of room in the garage for a couple 5-gal cans of kerosene. BTU-wise kerosene looks like a winner. The heater John mentioned is electric, and probably won't make a dent in the garage when it's in the teens or lower, as it often is here. --Vic |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:12:00 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Keros...el-CV-2230/dp/ B000A6D1IC Maybe 2 of them. Want to look locally first to avoid the shipping hit. Got plenty of room in the garage for a couple 5-gal cans of kerosene. BTU-wise kerosene looks like a winner. The heater John mentioned is electric, and probably won't make a dent in the garage when it's in the teens or lower, as it often is here. Make sure you use K-1 kerosene. It has a lower sulfur content, and your nose will appreciate the difference. |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
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It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:22:52 -0600, thunder
wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:12:00 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Keros...el-CV-2230/dp/ B000A6D1IC Maybe 2 of them. Want to look locally first to avoid the shipping hit. Got plenty of room in the garage for a couple 5-gal cans of kerosene. BTU-wise kerosene looks like a winner. The heater John mentioned is electric, and probably won't make a dent in the garage when it's in the teens or lower, as it often is here. Make sure you use K-1 kerosene. It has a lower sulfur content, and your nose will appreciate the difference. Right. Have to find a kerosene supply now, as I ordered 2 of the heaters above. You mentioned propane before, and though it has some advantages, there's a couple disadvantages. The propane cost as you mentioned, and noise. Irritates some people. I don't like the gas/flame myself unless I'm cutting metal. There is some doubt that they pollute the air less than a well-run kerosene heater too. Most of guys who use propane also say you usually get substantially shorted on bottle refills/swaps. Here's something else that might be of interest. Went to the Northern Tool site and shipping is $5 less than Amazon for 1 heater and was $14 less for 2 (and that's with 4 wicks thrown into the order.) From now on I'll check the supplier's site before I order from Amazon. A buck is a buck. Anyway, the wife was all for it too, as she wants a back-up if the power goes out. --Vic |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:12:00 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 08:49:31 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: I've got one of those kerosene wick heaters for my garage. They do a fantastic job, and also is nice when to power goes out in an ice storm. I remember when I lived in western NY and had to change a water pump on a very cold night in the dead of winter. My fingers didn't have any skin on them because they'd stick to the frozen parts. Yeah, looks like I'll go with that. There's a 23k BTU model that should take the chill off the garage. I really like the idea it can do double duty in the house if the power goes out. I always worry about that happening, and my pipes freezing. Even the kitchen stove needs electricity to open the oven gas valve. You can light the range burners though. Already decided I don't want a generator. Dan got me looking, and think I'll get this: http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Keros.../dp/B000A6D1IC Maybe 2 of them. Want to look locally first to avoid the shipping hit. Got plenty of room in the garage for a couple 5-gal cans of kerosene. BTU-wise kerosene looks like a winner. The heater John mentioned is electric, and probably won't make a dent in the garage when it's in the teens or lower, as it often is here. --Vic Yeah, you're right. It's not going to do much for the whole garage. Usually, if I'm working in the garage it's on a bench project or the motorcycle, something where I'll be in the same spot for the most part. Then it works pretty well. That heater above looks like a pretty good deal. Decent price anyway. -- John H |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:25:29 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:
Don't want anything but K-1 in a wick heater. Some guys burn diesel in kerosene salamanders though. I found a source that seems pretty informative. If you haven't already, you may want to check it out. Bye the bye, the guy suggests Jet A fuel is the cleanest. http://www.milesstair.com/ |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Dec 6, 5:12*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 08:49:31 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: I've got one of those kerosene wick heaters for my garage. They do a fantastic job, and also is nice when to power goes out in an ice storm. I remember when I lived in western NY and had to change a water pump on a very cold night in the dead of winter. My fingers didn't have any skin on them because they'd stick to the frozen parts. Yeah, looks like I'll go with that. There's a 23k BTU model that should take the chill off the garage. I really like the idea it can do double duty in the house if the power goes out. *I always worry about that happening, and my pipes freezing. Even the kitchen stove needs electricity to open the oven gas valve. You can light the range burners though. Already decided I don't want a generator. Dan got me looking, and think I'll get this:http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Keros...-2230/dp/B000A... Maybe 2 of them. *Want to look locally first to avoid the shipping hit. Got plenty of room in the garage for a couple 5-gal cans of kerosene. BTU-wise kerosene looks like a winner. The heater John mentioned is electric, and probably won't make a dent in the garage when it's in the teens or lower, as it often is here. --Vic Mine one will make my 22x20 garage very comfortable when it's 30 outside. |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
Scott Dickson wrote:
On Dec 7, 3:06 am, thunder wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:25:29 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: Don't want anything but K-1 in a wick heater. Some guys burn diesel in kerosene salamanders though. I found a source that seems pretty informative. If you haven't already, you may want to check it out. Bye the bye, the guy suggests Jet A fuel is the cleanest. http://www.milesstair.com/ But where do you "just run out and buy" Jet A? I dont think you can. Jet A is just a higher grade of Kerosene, I believe. loogy brews it in the still in his backyard. His toothless relatives are out there right now, stomping on the ingredients to make a mash. |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Dec 7, 2:07*pm, "H the K (I post with a Mac)"
wrote: Scott Dickson wrote: On Dec 7, 3:06 am, thunder wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:25:29 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: Don't want anything but K-1 in a wick heater. *Some guys burn diesel in kerosene salamanders though. I found a source that seems pretty informative. *If you haven't already, you may want to check it out. *Bye the bye, the guy suggests Jet A fuel is the cleanest. http://www.milesstair.com/ But where do you "just run out and buy" Jet A? I dont think you can. Jet A is just a higher grade of Kerosene, I believe. loogy brews it in the still in his backyard. His toothless relatives are out there right now, stomping on the ingredients to make a mash. That's our Harry, he'll even lie about things he knows nothing about! |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:48:20 -0600, thunder
wrote: On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:28:13 -0800, Scott Dickson wrote: http://www.milesstair.com/ But where do you "just run out and buy" Jet A? I dont think you can. Jet A is just a higher grade of Kerosene, I believe. Beats me, K-1 used to be hard enough to find. To be honest, I haven't burned any kerosene since the '70s. I had read his site before I bought the heaters. He recommends the model I bought. Seems he's got some "survivalist" blood in him. Knows more about kerosene burning than I ever want to know. Think I'll follow his "seasoning" advice when the heaters show up. As to the fuel, I called around and found I could do the on-line "ship to store" for the $33.49 5-gal K-1 jugs, or just go to the store and pick up 2 1/2 gal jugs for $19.95. I'll pick up a couple of those. Crafty Beaver Hardware, plenty around here. The smaller jugs will be easier to handle and store. They also have gallons for $10. If I was heating my house with the stuff I'd look to get bulk Jet A. Palwaukee Airport is about 15 minutes away. But I just want to heat the garage when doing occasional car repairs and have a backup for the house if the power goes out. Not worth shmoozing airport fuelers for what I need. --Vic |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Dec 7, 2:07*pm, "H the K (I post with a Mac)"
wrote: Scott Dickson wrote: On Dec 7, 3:06 am, thunder wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:25:29 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: Don't want anything but K-1 in a wick heater. *Some guys burn diesel in kerosene salamanders though. I found a source that seems pretty informative. *If you haven't already, you may want to check it out. *Bye the bye, the guy suggests Jet A fuel is the cleanest. http://www.milesstair.com/ But where do you "just run out and buy" Jet A? I dont think you can. Jet A is just a higher grade of Kerosene, I believe. loogy brews it in the still in his backyard. His toothless relatives are out there right now, stomping on the ingredients to make a mash. Do ya' think if we told them they could make mash out of Loogys head, they'd stomp on it, too???? |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
Scott Dickson wrote:
On Dec 7, 2:07 pm, "H the K (I post with a Mac)" wrote: Scott Dickson wrote: On Dec 7, 3:06 am, thunder wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:25:29 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: Don't want anything but K-1 in a wick heater. Some guys burn diesel in kerosene salamanders though. I found a source that seems pretty informative. If you haven't already, you may want to check it out. Bye the bye, the guy suggests Jet A fuel is the cleanest. http://www.milesstair.com/ But where do you "just run out and buy" Jet A? I dont think you can. Jet A is just a higher grade of Kerosene, I believe. loogy brews it in the still in his backyard. His toothless relatives are out there right now, stomping on the ingredients to make a mash. Do ya' think if we told them they could make mash out of Loogys head, they'd stomp on it, too???? Can you make mash out of mush? |
It's friggin cold in Georgia tonight!
On Dec 6, 8:12*pm, John H wrote:
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:12:00 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 08:49:31 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: I've got one of those kerosene wick heaters for my garage. They do a fantastic job, and also is nice when to power goes out in an ice storm. I remember when I lived in western NY and had to change a water pump on a very cold night in the dead of winter. My fingers didn't have any skin on them because they'd stick to the frozen parts. Yeah, looks like I'll go with that. There's a 23k BTU model that should take the chill off the garage. I really like the idea it can do double duty in the house if the power goes out. *I always worry about that happening, and my pipes freezing. Even the kitchen stove needs electricity to open the oven gas valve. You can light the range burners though. Already decided I don't want a generator. Dan got me looking, and think I'll get this: http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Keros...-2230/dp/B000A... Maybe 2 of them. *Want to look locally first to avoid the shipping hit. Got plenty of room in the garage for a couple 5-gal cans of kerosene. BTU-wise kerosene looks like a winner. The heater John mentioned is electric, and probably won't make a dent in the garage when it's in the teens or lower, as it often is here. --Vic Yeah, you're right. It's not going to do much for the whole garage. Usually, if I'm working in the garage it's on a bench project or the motorcycle, something where I'll be in the same spot for the most part. Then it works pretty well. That heater above looks like a pretty good deal. Decent price anyway. -- John H Those things do a good job, but then again, anything that burns kerosene will still put off fumes that smell like kerosene. even when using #1 or Jet fuel. I used one of these for years. I had it clipped on top of a 100 lb propane bottle. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...ML._AA280_.jpg |
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