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I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a
program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. |
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Don White wrote:
I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. I wa brought up with firearms. I didn't handle or fire one until it was determined I was safe with them. My own kids went one, at a time, with me at 6. They hunted, with a gun, while, I attended at about 7. At ten they hunted squirrels alone behind the house. Some kids, today, know nothing but tv. It depends on who raised them, the tv, or parents, and where they live etc. At 5 I was killing chickens, by wringing their necks and chores that most Teenagers would whine and cry and not do. I'm not sure what you saw. I won't accuse you of being socialist. We frequently hear hand wringing and the sky is falling from the socialist camp. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. Lets see. Turn in a $500 weapon and get a $50 camera. Good business. For the state. I was raised around firearms. The kids getting accidently killed are most likely from parents who do not acknowledge firearms and the only ones the kids see are on TV and the person getting shot 99 times and getting up. I was taught gun safety from as far back as I can remember. My kids were taught firearms safety. Started shooting small bore rifles and 20 ga shotguns at beercans and clay pidgeons when they were maybe 8 or 9. Neither kid owes guns as they do not desire to, but they do know what to do to keep themselves and the family safe if around a firearm. Education on firearms is missing these days. |
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Don White wrote:
I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. I apologize for my previous reply sounding accusatory. |
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On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:51:01 -0500, lil abner wrote:
Don White wrote: I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. I wa brought up with firearms. I didn't handle or fire one until it was determined I was safe with them. My own kids went one, at a time, with me at 6. They hunted, with a gun, while, I attended at about 7. At ten they hunted squirrels alone behind the house. Some kids, today, know nothing but tv. It depends on who raised them, the tv, or parents, and where they live etc. At 5 I was killing chickens, by wringing their necks and chores that most Teenagers would whine and cry and not do. I'm not sure what you saw. I won't accuse you of being socialist. We frequently hear hand wringing and the sky is falling from the socialist camp. Do you live in historical Russia? Not being in favor of the proliferation of handguns and their availablity to nutcases does not a socialist make. I endorse your interest in shooting small defenseless animals if that's what floats your boat, or hunting for food. I even endorse your ability to have firearms to defend your life and property. What I don't endorse is no check sales of firearms at uncontrolled gun shows and lax gun shops. What I don't endorse is all the money the NRA has spread around Washington to promote laws that hinder our ability to wrestle with this out-of-control problem. Maybe it's fine for you to watch as people get killed in bunches, I'm not immune to the taking of innocent lives. 4 cops, two of them trainers in SWAT. Armed, trained, getting ready to go on duty, shot dead in cold blood by one asshole. Normally, some dunderhead would be arguing that if ONE of those four people had a gun, the gunman couldn't have killed all four. Guess what? It's a ****ing specious argument that just got proven wrong. The cat is long out of the bag on this problem and I have not a clue what to do. The NRA has pushed the availability so far beyond reason that we're doomed to have to live with the consequences for years to come. Humans can be so ****ing short sighted. I'm not among that lot. |
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Don White wrote:
I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. It is a pretty bizarre show. The gunshop host is a trip, as is his "granny," but in the two episodes I saw, there were some really dangerous moments underway in the shop and on the range. |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. Lets see. Turn in a $500 weapon and get a $50 camera. Good business. For the state. I was raised around firearms. The kids getting accidently killed are most likely from parents who do not acknowledge firearms and the only ones the kids see are on TV and the person getting shot 99 times and getting up. I was taught gun safety from as far back as I can remember. My kids were taught firearms safety. Started shooting small bore rifles and 20 ga shotguns at beercans and clay pidgeons when they were maybe 8 or 9. Neither kid owes guns as they do not desire to, but they do know what to do to keep themselves and the family safe if around a firearm. Education on firearms is missing these days. FL has a law on the books that makes parents responsible if Jr. takes Dads firearm and shoots Suzy while playing cops and robbers. Too often the law isn't used. I think this has been twisted around where somehow the parents rights are being violated if he/she/they is held responsible for leaving a firearm unsecured and this results in Suzy being shot. . It'm my constitutional and legal right (FL) to own firearms (and I do so responsibly) and it's the other sides right to bitch and moan about it. If I shoot someone it's because they are commiting a life threatening action towards myself or another person. Or they've shown extremely poor judgement by breaking into my house. |
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On Dec 2, 11:41*pm, "Don White" wrote:
I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. Your suck buddy Harry LOVES to talk about his guns. |
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jps wrote:
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:51:01 -0500, lil abner wrote: Don White wrote: I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. I wa brought up with firearms. I didn't handle or fire one until it was determined I was safe with them. My own kids went one, at a time, with me at 6. They hunted, with a gun, while, I attended at about 7. At ten they hunted squirrels alone behind the house. Some kids, today, know nothing but tv. It depends on who raised them, the tv, or parents, and where they live etc. At 5 I was killing chickens, by wringing their necks and chores that most Teenagers would whine and cry and not do. I'm not sure what you saw. I won't accuse you of being socialist. We frequently hear hand wringing and the sky is falling from the socialist camp. Do you live in historical Russia? Not being in favor of the proliferation of handguns and their availablity to nutcases does not a socialist make. I endorse your interest in shooting small defenseless animals if that's what floats your boat, or hunting for food. I even endorse your ability to have firearms to defend your life and property. What I don't endorse is no check sales of firearms at uncontrolled gun shows and lax gun shops. What I don't endorse is all the money the NRA has spread around Washington to promote laws that hinder our ability to wrestle with this out-of-control problem. Maybe it's fine for you to watch as people get killed in bunches, I'm not immune to the taking of innocent lives. 4 cops, two of them trainers in SWAT. Armed, trained, getting ready to go on duty, shot dead in cold blood by one asshole. Normally, some dunderhead would be arguing that if ONE of those four people had a gun, the gunman couldn't have killed all four. Guess what? It's a ****ing specious argument that just got proven wrong. The cat is long out of the bag on this problem and I have not a clue what to do. The NRA has pushed the availability so far beyond reason that we're doomed to have to live with the consequences for years to come. Humans can be so ****ing short sighted. I'm not among that lot. Firearms are tools. It is our right. We told government hands off in our Constitution. You want to make it a privilege dictated on your terms. By the way, it will surprise you to know that meat doesn't come from the supermarket. The animal was killed a lot less humanely than a Hunter would. The NRA hasn't pushed anything. S--t happens. Life is uncertain. The society is full of criminals. You cannot depend on society or Law Enforcement to be at your side to protect you when a predator comes for you. Even if you have the means to protect yourself it is not a 100% guaranteed you will be the victor. If you don't want to take responsibility for your own existence that's fine. Put a big 911 button on your phone. Go whine and cower in your corner. The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. No one elected to give up their rights and let you be emperor. Leave normal Citizens alone. |
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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:41:16 -0500, lil abner wrote:
jps wrote: On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:51:01 -0500, lil abner wrote: Don White wrote: I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. I wa brought up with firearms. I didn't handle or fire one until it was determined I was safe with them. My own kids went one, at a time, with me at 6. They hunted, with a gun, while, I attended at about 7. At ten they hunted squirrels alone behind the house. Some kids, today, know nothing but tv. It depends on who raised them, the tv, or parents, and where they live etc. At 5 I was killing chickens, by wringing their necks and chores that most Teenagers would whine and cry and not do. I'm not sure what you saw. I won't accuse you of being socialist. We frequently hear hand wringing and the sky is falling from the socialist camp. Do you live in historical Russia? Not being in favor of the proliferation of handguns and their availablity to nutcases does not a socialist make. I endorse your interest in shooting small defenseless animals if that's what floats your boat, or hunting for food. I even endorse your ability to have firearms to defend your life and property. What I don't endorse is no check sales of firearms at uncontrolled gun shows and lax gun shops. What I don't endorse is all the money the NRA has spread around Washington to promote laws that hinder our ability to wrestle with this out-of-control problem. Maybe it's fine for you to watch as people get killed in bunches, I'm not immune to the taking of innocent lives. 4 cops, two of them trainers in SWAT. Armed, trained, getting ready to go on duty, shot dead in cold blood by one asshole. Normally, some dunderhead would be arguing that if ONE of those four people had a gun, the gunman couldn't have killed all four. Guess what? It's a ****ing specious argument that just got proven wrong. The cat is long out of the bag on this problem and I have not a clue what to do. The NRA has pushed the availability so far beyond reason that we're doomed to have to live with the consequences for years to come. Humans can be so ****ing short sighted. I'm not among that lot. Firearms are tools. It is our right. We told government hands off in our Constitution. You want to make it a privilege dictated on your terms. By the way, it will surprise you to know that meat doesn't come from the supermarket. The animal was killed a lot less humanely than a Hunter would. The NRA hasn't pushed anything. S--t happens. Life is uncertain. The society is full of criminals. You cannot depend on society or Law Enforcement to be at your side to protect you when a predator comes for you. Even if you have the means to protect yourself it is not a 100% guaranteed you will be the victor. If you don't want to take responsibility for your own existence that's fine. Put a big 911 button on your phone. Go whine and cower in your corner. The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. No one elected to give up their rights and let you be emperor. Leave normal Citizens alone. Remember, now, JPS has the higher vision. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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"lil abner" wrote in message
... jps wrote: On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:51:01 -0500, lil abner wrote: Don White wrote: I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. I wa brought up with firearms. I didn't handle or fire one until it was determined I was safe with them. My own kids went one, at a time, with me at 6. They hunted, with a gun, while, I attended at about 7. At ten they hunted squirrels alone behind the house. Some kids, today, know nothing but tv. It depends on who raised them, the tv, or parents, and where they live etc. At 5 I was killing chickens, by wringing their necks and chores that most Teenagers would whine and cry and not do. I'm not sure what you saw. I won't accuse you of being socialist. We frequently hear hand wringing and the sky is falling from the socialist camp. Do you live in historical Russia? Not being in favor of the proliferation of handguns and their availablity to nutcases does not a socialist make. I endorse your interest in shooting small defenseless animals if that's what floats your boat, or hunting for food. I even endorse your ability to have firearms to defend your life and property. What I don't endorse is no check sales of firearms at uncontrolled gun shows and lax gun shops. What I don't endorse is all the money the NRA has spread around Washington to promote laws that hinder our ability to wrestle with this out-of-control problem. Maybe it's fine for you to watch as people get killed in bunches, I'm not immune to the taking of innocent lives. 4 cops, two of them trainers in SWAT. Armed, trained, getting ready to go on duty, shot dead in cold blood by one asshole. Normally, some dunderhead would be arguing that if ONE of those four people had a gun, the gunman couldn't have killed all four. Guess what? It's a ****ing specious argument that just got proven wrong. The cat is long out of the bag on this problem and I have not a clue what to do. The NRA has pushed the availability so far beyond reason that we're doomed to have to live with the consequences for years to come. Humans can be so ****ing short sighted. I'm not among that lot. Firearms are tools. It is our right. We told government hands off in our Constitution. You want to make it a privilege dictated on your terms. By the way, it will surprise you to know that meat doesn't come from the supermarket. The animal was killed a lot less humanely than a Hunter would. The NRA hasn't pushed anything. S--t happens. Life is uncertain. The society is full of criminals. You cannot depend on society or Law Enforcement to be at your side to protect you when a predator comes for you. Even if you have the means to protect yourself it is not a 100% guaranteed you will be the victor. If you don't want to take responsibility for your own existence that's fine. Put a big 911 button on your phone. Go whine and cower in your corner. The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. No one elected to give up their rights and let you be emperor. Leave normal Citizens alone. The NRA is a huge lobby. What do you mean they haven't pushed anything? It's just dumb to say that... http://www.gunownersalliance.com/GOP-1.htm -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:41:16 -0500, lil abner wrote:
jps wrote: On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:51:01 -0500, lil abner wrote: Don White wrote: I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. I wa brought up with firearms. I didn't handle or fire one until it was determined I was safe with them. My own kids went one, at a time, with me at 6. They hunted, with a gun, while, I attended at about 7. At ten they hunted squirrels alone behind the house. Some kids, today, know nothing but tv. It depends on who raised them, the tv, or parents, and where they live etc. At 5 I was killing chickens, by wringing their necks and chores that most Teenagers would whine and cry and not do. I'm not sure what you saw. I won't accuse you of being socialist. We frequently hear hand wringing and the sky is falling from the socialist camp. Do you live in historical Russia? Not being in favor of the proliferation of handguns and their availablity to nutcases does not a socialist make. I endorse your interest in shooting small defenseless animals if that's what floats your boat, or hunting for food. I even endorse your ability to have firearms to defend your life and property. What I don't endorse is no check sales of firearms at uncontrolled gun shows and lax gun shops. What I don't endorse is all the money the NRA has spread around Washington to promote laws that hinder our ability to wrestle with this out-of-control problem. Maybe it's fine for you to watch as people get killed in bunches, I'm not immune to the taking of innocent lives. 4 cops, two of them trainers in SWAT. Armed, trained, getting ready to go on duty, shot dead in cold blood by one asshole. Normally, some dunderhead would be arguing that if ONE of those four people had a gun, the gunman couldn't have killed all four. Guess what? It's a ****ing specious argument that just got proven wrong. The cat is long out of the bag on this problem and I have not a clue what to do. The NRA has pushed the availability so far beyond reason that we're doomed to have to live with the consequences for years to come. Humans can be so ****ing short sighted. I'm not among that lot. Firearms are tools. It is our right. We told government hands off in our Constitution. You want to make it a privilege dictated on your terms. By the way, it will surprise you to know that meat doesn't come from the supermarket. The animal was killed a lot less humanely than a Hunter would. I don't buy that meat. The NRA hasn't pushed anything. Bull****. They're in the pants of everyone. S--t happens. Life is uncertain. The society is full of criminals. And thanks to the NRA and short-term thinkers like you, cheap weapons are widely available. You cannot depend on society or Law Enforcement to be at your side to protect you when a predator comes for you. Even if you have the means to protect yourself it is not a 100% guaranteed you will be the victor. 4 cops, armed, trained. Weapons are being used to kill innocent people, relatives, their owners. If you don't want to take responsibility for your own existence that's fine. Put a big 911 button on your phone. Go whine and cower in your corner. What a crock of ****. Who's coming into my house? Smart people use deterrents to keep unwanted people from coming into their houses. Do you post an image of a gun on your house? A flashing LED will keep a car prowler out of your car. Are you smart enough to install one? The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. Would you recommend all octogenarians have carry permits? No one elected to give up their rights and let you be emperor. Oh really? Where did I say they did? Leave normal Citizens alone. I do and you're not. |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"lil abner" wrote in message ... jps wrote: On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:51:01 -0500, lil abner wrote: Don White wrote: I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. I wa brought up with firearms. I didn't handle or fire one until it was determined I was safe with them. My own kids went one, at a time, with me at 6. They hunted, with a gun, while, I attended at about 7. At ten they hunted squirrels alone behind the house. Some kids, today, know nothing but tv. It depends on who raised them, the tv, or parents, and where they live etc. At 5 I was killing chickens, by wringing their necks and chores that most Teenagers would whine and cry and not do. I'm not sure what you saw. I won't accuse you of being socialist. We frequently hear hand wringing and the sky is falling from the socialist camp. Do you live in historical Russia? Not being in favor of the proliferation of handguns and their availablity to nutcases does not a socialist make. I endorse your interest in shooting small defenseless animals if that's what floats your boat, or hunting for food. I even endorse your ability to have firearms to defend your life and property. What I don't endorse is no check sales of firearms at uncontrolled gun shows and lax gun shops. What I don't endorse is all the money the NRA has spread around Washington to promote laws that hinder our ability to wrestle with this out-of-control problem. Maybe it's fine for you to watch as people get killed in bunches, I'm not immune to the taking of innocent lives. 4 cops, two of them trainers in SWAT. Armed, trained, getting ready to go on duty, shot dead in cold blood by one asshole. Normally, some dunderhead would be arguing that if ONE of those four people had a gun, the gunman couldn't have killed all four. Guess what? It's a ****ing specious argument that just got proven wrong. The cat is long out of the bag on this problem and I have not a clue what to do. The NRA has pushed the availability so far beyond reason that we're doomed to have to live with the consequences for years to come. Humans can be so ****ing short sighted. I'm not among that lot. Firearms are tools. It is our right. We told government hands off in our Constitution. You want to make it a privilege dictated on your terms. By the way, it will surprise you to know that meat doesn't come from the supermarket. The animal was killed a lot less humanely than a Hunter would. The NRA hasn't pushed anything. S--t happens. Life is uncertain. The society is full of criminals. You cannot depend on society or Law Enforcement to be at your side to protect you when a predator comes for you. Even if you have the means to protect yourself it is not a 100% guaranteed you will be the victor. If you don't want to take responsibility for your own existence that's fine. Put a big 911 button on your phone. Go whine and cower in your corner. The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. No one elected to give up their rights and let you be emperor. Leave normal Citizens alone. The NRA is a huge lobby. What do you mean they haven't pushed anything? It's just dumb to say that... http://www.gunownersalliance.com/GOP-1.htm That reminds me. I've been meaning to fire them off a big check. I'll get it in the mail today. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet,or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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jps wrote:
You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. Would you recommend all octogenarians have carry permits? No one elected to give up their rights and let you be emperor. Oh really? Where did I say they did? Leave normal Citizens alone. I do and you're not. Simmer down before you go off on another tirade of vulgar language. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet,or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:41:16 -0500, lil abner wrote: jps wrote: On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:51:01 -0500, lil abner wrote: Don White wrote: I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. I wa brought up with firearms. I didn't handle or fire one until it was determined I was safe with them. My own kids went one, at a time, with me at 6. They hunted, with a gun, while, I attended at about 7. At ten they hunted squirrels alone behind the house. Some kids, today, know nothing but tv. It depends on who raised them, the tv, or parents, and where they live etc. At 5 I was killing chickens, by wringing their necks and chores that most Teenagers would whine and cry and not do. I'm not sure what you saw. I won't accuse you of being socialist. We frequently hear hand wringing and the sky is falling from the socialist camp. Do you live in historical Russia? Not being in favor of the proliferation of handguns and their availablity to nutcases does not a socialist make. I endorse your interest in shooting small defenseless animals if that's what floats your boat, or hunting for food. I even endorse your ability to have firearms to defend your life and property. What I don't endorse is no check sales of firearms at uncontrolled gun shows and lax gun shops. What I don't endorse is all the money the NRA has spread around Washington to promote laws that hinder our ability to wrestle with this out-of-control problem. Maybe it's fine for you to watch as people get killed in bunches, I'm not immune to the taking of innocent lives. 4 cops, two of them trainers in SWAT. Armed, trained, getting ready to go on duty, shot dead in cold blood by one asshole. Normally, some dunderhead would be arguing that if ONE of those four people had a gun, the gunman couldn't have killed all four. Guess what? It's a ****ing specious argument that just got proven wrong. The cat is long out of the bag on this problem and I have not a clue what to do. The NRA has pushed the availability so far beyond reason that we're doomed to have to live with the consequences for years to come. Humans can be so ****ing short sighted. I'm not among that lot. Firearms are tools. It is our right. We told government hands off in our Constitution. You want to make it a privilege dictated on your terms. By the way, it will surprise you to know that meat doesn't come from the supermarket. The animal was killed a lot less humanely than a Hunter would. I don't buy that meat. The NRA hasn't pushed anything. Bull****. They're in the pants of everyone. S--t happens. Life is uncertain. The society is full of criminals. And thanks to the NRA and short-term thinkers like you, cheap weapons are widely available. You cannot depend on society or Law Enforcement to be at your side to protect you when a predator comes for you. Even if you have the means to protect yourself it is not a 100% guaranteed you will be the victor. 4 cops, armed, trained. Weapons are being used to kill innocent people, relatives, their owners. If you don't want to take responsibility for your own existence that's fine. Put a big 911 button on your phone. Go whine and cower in your corner. What a crock of ****. Who's coming into my house? Smart people use deterrents to keep unwanted people from coming into their houses. Do you post an image of a gun on your house? A flashing LED will keep a car prowler out of your car. Are you smart enough to install one? The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. Would you recommend all octogenarians have carry permits? No one elected to give up their rights and let you be emperor. Oh really? Where did I say they did? Leave normal Citizens alone. I do and you're not. Dry humor no doubt. |
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... On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:41:16 -0500, lil abner wrote: jps wrote: On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:51:01 -0500, lil abner wrote: Don White wrote: I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. I wa brought up with firearms. I didn't handle or fire one until it was determined I was safe with them. My own kids went one, at a time, with me at 6. They hunted, with a gun, while, I attended at about 7. At ten they hunted squirrels alone behind the house. Some kids, today, know nothing but tv. It depends on who raised them, the tv, or parents, and where they live etc. At 5 I was killing chickens, by wringing their necks and chores that most Teenagers would whine and cry and not do. I'm not sure what you saw. I won't accuse you of being socialist. We frequently hear hand wringing and the sky is falling from the socialist camp. Do you live in historical Russia? Not being in favor of the proliferation of handguns and their availablity to nutcases does not a socialist make. I endorse your interest in shooting small defenseless animals if that's what floats your boat, or hunting for food. I even endorse your ability to have firearms to defend your life and property. What I don't endorse is no check sales of firearms at uncontrolled gun shows and lax gun shops. What I don't endorse is all the money the NRA has spread around Washington to promote laws that hinder our ability to wrestle with this out-of-control problem. Maybe it's fine for you to watch as people get killed in bunches, I'm not immune to the taking of innocent lives. 4 cops, two of them trainers in SWAT. Armed, trained, getting ready to go on duty, shot dead in cold blood by one asshole. Normally, some dunderhead would be arguing that if ONE of those four people had a gun, the gunman couldn't have killed all four. Guess what? It's a ****ing specious argument that just got proven wrong. The cat is long out of the bag on this problem and I have not a clue what to do. The NRA has pushed the availability so far beyond reason that we're doomed to have to live with the consequences for years to come. Humans can be so ****ing short sighted. I'm not among that lot. Firearms are tools. It is our right. We told government hands off in our Constitution. You want to make it a privilege dictated on your terms. By the way, it will surprise you to know that meat doesn't come from the supermarket. The animal was killed a lot less humanely than a Hunter would. I don't buy that meat. The NRA hasn't pushed anything. Bull****. They're in the pants of everyone. S--t happens. Life is uncertain. The society is full of criminals. And thanks to the NRA and short-term thinkers like you, cheap weapons are widely available. You cannot depend on society or Law Enforcement to be at your side to protect you when a predator comes for you. Even if you have the means to protect yourself it is not a 100% guaranteed you will be the victor. 4 cops, armed, trained. Weapons are being used to kill innocent people, relatives, their owners. If you don't want to take responsibility for your own existence that's fine. Put a big 911 button on your phone. Go whine and cower in your corner. What a crock of ****. Who's coming into my house? Smart people use deterrents to keep unwanted people from coming into their houses. Do you post an image of a gun on your house? I have a sign on the gate (which is always open) that says, "Private Property, No Trespassing, Uninvited Guests Will Be Eaten". In the entire time I've lived here, I had one "uninvited guest." I think he was probably a homeless guy, since he walked up the driveway. My attack cat went crazy, hissing and trashing against the porch window. Stopped him in his tracks. I opened the door and told him to leave before I let the cat out, and he did. Then, I called the police. My neighbor said they took him away, but I never heard what happened. A flashing LED will keep a car prowler out of your car. Are you smart enough to install one? Fortunately, my car is rated as "56, better than average" by carfax. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"jps" wrote in message I have a sign on the gate (which is always open) that says, "Private Property, No Trespassing, Uninvited Guests Will Be Eaten". In the entire time I've lived here, I had one "uninvited guest." I think he was probably a homeless guy, since he walked up the driveway. My attack cat went crazy, hissing and trashing against the porch window. Stopped him in his tracks. I opened the door and told him to leave before I let the cat out, and he did. Then, I called the police. My neighbor said they took him away, but I never heard what happened. Will that be enough to stop a raging loogy from rec.boats? If not, just put on some steel-toed work boots and kick him in the nuts as hard as you can. Then, step down hard on the back of his slimy neck. Then call the cops. |
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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote:
The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. |
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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I have permits good for carry on the eastern seaboard from maryland down to florida. I only place I actually "carry" while on the road is in south carolina. I regularly visit construction sites, sometimes in pretty bad 'hoods in DC, Baltimore, New Orleans, et cetera, and never feel the need to go heeled there. When we visit the property out on the shenandoah in virginia, I open carry. There are packs of feral dogs and the occasional bear out there on and between the two mountain ranges. Almost everyone I've seen out on the lesser-known trails is "carrying" for that reason. My guess is the dogs are far more of a threat than the small bears. If someone tries to break into the house here, they likely are going to be shot. Period. |
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"mmc" wrote in message g.com... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. Lets see. Turn in a $500 weapon and get a $50 camera. Good business. For the state. I was raised around firearms. The kids getting accidently killed are most likely from parents who do not acknowledge firearms and the only ones the kids see are on TV and the person getting shot 99 times and getting up. I was taught gun safety from as far back as I can remember. My kids were taught firearms safety. Started shooting small bore rifles and 20 ga shotguns at beercans and clay pidgeons when they were maybe 8 or 9. Neither kid owes guns as they do not desire to, but they do know what to do to keep themselves and the family safe if around a firearm. Education on firearms is missing these days. FL has a law on the books that makes parents responsible if Jr. takes Dads firearm and shoots Suzy while playing cops and robbers. Too often the law isn't used. I think this has been twisted around where somehow the parents rights are being violated if he/she/they is held responsible for leaving a firearm unsecured and this results in Suzy being shot. . It'm my constitutional and legal right (FL) to own firearms (and I do so responsibly) and it's the other sides right to bitch and moan about it. If I shoot someone it's because they are commiting a life threatening action towards myself or another person. Or they've shown extremely poor judgement by breaking into my house. Same thing here in California. Hell, I think someone breaks in to a house a steals a firearm without a trigger lock or in a safe and you are still responsible for any shooting by the bad guy. But most accidents by kids are by uninformed kids. Same with adults. |
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thunder wrote:
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. No one said you had to or that I did. It was making a point. |
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thunder wrote:
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I've never been shot at but. In the mid seventies we had our home invade, while we were sleeping. The trauma so upset us that my wife would not remember it for a long time. I thought I had just dreamed it for some time. We haven't brought it up to our Daughter ever because she hopefully has no memory of it as she was only 4 or 5. There have been a few times over the years that we found ourselves, in situations that we transited without any problem but the dice could roll the other way sometime. I don't carry but have, in the past, in the course of my job. We've been broken into one other time and had different vehicles vandalized several times. Dirt in the gas ruined children's little four wheelers. Daughter's truck has had fuel filters changed and line flushed three times. Boat motor almost ruined by someone putting water in the tank. We live in a rural area and have great LEOs. Most of the time we simply said nothing because, there was nothing to be gained except for the one time and we were so traumatized that we denied it happened for a long while. The need to protect one's self and their family is great. A firearm is appropriate, in many situations. |
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m... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. Lets see. Turn in a $500 weapon and get a $50 camera. Good business. For the state. I was raised around firearms. The kids getting accidently killed are most likely from parents who do not acknowledge firearms and the only ones the kids see are on TV and the person getting shot 99 times and getting up. I was taught gun safety from as far back as I can remember. My kids were taught firearms safety. Started shooting small bore rifles and 20 ga shotguns at beercans and clay pidgeons when they were maybe 8 or 9. Neither kid owes guns as they do not desire to, but they do know what to do to keep themselves and the family safe if around a firearm. Education on firearms is missing these days. FL has a law on the books that makes parents responsible if Jr. takes Dads firearm and shoots Suzy while playing cops and robbers. Too often the law isn't used. I think this has been twisted around where somehow the parents rights are being violated if he/she/they is held responsible for leaving a firearm unsecured and this results in Suzy being shot. . It'm my constitutional and legal right (FL) to own firearms (and I do so responsibly) and it's the other sides right to bitch and moan about it. If I shoot someone it's because they are commiting a life threatening action towards myself or another person. Or they've shown extremely poor judgement by breaking into my house. Same thing here in California. Hell, I think someone breaks in to a house a steals a firearm without a trigger lock or in a safe and you are still responsible for any shooting by the bad guy. But most accidents by kids are by uninformed kids. Same with adults. Perhaps you should get a JD before you make such statements... -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"lil abner" wrote in message
... thunder wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I've never been shot at but. In the mid seventies we had our home invade, while we were sleeping. The trauma so upset us that my wife would not remember it for a long time. I thought I had just dreamed it for some time. We haven't brought it up to our Daughter ever because she hopefully has no memory of it as she was only 4 or 5. There have been a few times over the years that we found ourselves, in situations that we transited without any problem but the dice could roll the other way sometime. I don't carry but have, in the past, in the course of my job. We've been broken into one other time and had different vehicles vandalized several times. Dirt in the gas ruined children's little four wheelers. Daughter's truck has had fuel filters changed and line flushed three times. Boat motor almost ruined by someone putting water in the tank. We live in a rural area and have great LEOs. Most of the time we simply said nothing because, there was nothing to be gained except for the one time and we were so traumatized that we denied it happened for a long while. The need to protect one's self and their family is great. A firearm is appropriate, in many situations. I live in a fairly remote area. We have a very active neighborhood watch (unofficial) system... phone tree and people who check around regularly. We've had a few situations of unwanted "guests" checking out people's property, but the worst case in my memory (only been here about five years) was some low-lifes who stole a few things on someone's property. Someone got their description and car license, and they were caught pretty quickly. I have a 20-gauge but it's not like I could get it out and ready that quickly. My neighbor wanted to give me a handgun for my b-day, because I'm the only resident in my house, but passed. I have pepper spray. I have no objection to handguns, but I don't feel like I need one. I have good locks, but most people don't really lock up their house around here. Sometimes I do, but only if I'm not at the house. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:31:53 -0500, lil abner wrote:
thunder wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I've never been shot at but. In the mid seventies we had our home invade, while we were sleeping. The trauma so upset us that my wife would not remember it for a long time. I thought I had just dreamed it for some time. We haven't brought it up to our Daughter ever because she hopefully has no memory of it as she was only 4 or 5. There have been a few times over the years that we found ourselves, in situations that we transited without any problem but the dice could roll the other way sometime. I don't carry but have, in the past, in the course of my job. We've been broken into one other time and had different vehicles vandalized several times. Dirt in the gas ruined children's little four wheelers. Daughter's truck has had fuel filters changed and line flushed three times. Boat motor almost ruined by someone putting water in the tank. We live in a rural area and have great LEOs. Most of the time we simply said nothing because, there was nothing to be gained except for the one time and we were so traumatized that we denied it happened for a long while. The need to protect one's self and their family is great. A firearm is appropriate, in many situations. A dog would be more convenient. Sensor driven lighting? A simple security system. There are so many deterrents available. Guns are not a deterrent until they go off. Too often they go off in the wrong direction for the wrong reason. |
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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:31:53 -0500, lil abner wrote:
thunder wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I've never been shot at but. In the mid seventies we had our home invade, while we were sleeping. The trauma so upset us that my wife would not remember it for a long time. I thought I had just dreamed it for some time. We haven't brought it up to our Daughter ever because she hopefully has no memory of it as she was only 4 or 5. There have been a few times over the years that we found ourselves, in situations that we transited without any problem but the dice could roll the other way sometime. I don't carry but have, in the past, in the course of my job. We've been broken into one other time and had different vehicles vandalized several times. Dirt in the gas ruined children's little four wheelers. Daughter's truck has had fuel filters changed and line flushed three times. Boat motor almost ruined by someone putting water in the tank. We live in a rural area and have great LEOs. Most of the time we simply said nothing because, there was nothing to be gained except for the one time and we were so traumatized that we denied it happened for a long while. The need to protect one's self and their family is great. A firearm is appropriate, in many situations. I figure God made pillows to put your .45 under. -- John H |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. My son and daughter, now 25 and 30 were brought up with guns. Each got to shoot at age eight. My grandpa gave me a .22 when I was eight. My dad had to take me to shoot it, which he did until I was a little older, and I snuck it out. Then, I bought one when I was about 12 and kept it at a friend's house. My son shot a twelve gauge at eight. My daughter fired pistols and rifles one time, and after that never had one ounce of interest, AND NO CURIOSITY TO GO SNOOPING IN THE GUNS. She saw what they were, understood what they did, and she was a smart kid. My son still likes to shoot, but just graduated, and is working on masters and doesn't shoot or hunt or fish much. Kids raised with guns are different than kids forbidden to touch guns, or kids who are raised with guns and the wrong attitude. Steve |
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Don White wrote:
I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock& Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out& buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point& shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. Oh boy! Rob |
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A dog would be more convenient. Sensor driven lighting? A simple security system. There are so many deterrents available. Guns are not a deterrent until they go off. Too often they go off in the wrong direction for the wrong reason. Golly, you never have a problem when your master posts about guns. Oh, boy! Rob (Donnisms) |
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jps wrote: On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:51:01 -0500, lil abner wrote: Don White wrote: I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. I wa brought up with firearms. I didn't handle or fire one until it was determined I was safe with them. My own kids went one, at a time, with me at 6. They hunted, with a gun, while, I attended at about 7. At ten they hunted squirrels alone behind the house. Some kids, today, know nothing but tv. It depends on who raised them, the tv, or parents, and where they live etc. At 5 I was killing chickens, by wringing their necks and chores that most Teenagers would whine and cry and not do. I'm not sure what you saw. I won't accuse you of being socialist. We frequently hear hand wringing and the sky is falling from the socialist camp. Do you live in historical Russia? Not being in favor of the proliferation of handguns and their availablity to nutcases does not a socialist make. I endorse your interest in shooting small defenseless animals if that's what floats your boat, or hunting for food. I even endorse your ability to have firearms to defend your life and property. What I don't endorse is no check sales of firearms at uncontrolled gun shows and lax gun shops. What I don't endorse is all the money the NRA has spread around Washington to promote laws that hinder our ability to wrestle with this out-of-control problem. Maybe it's fine for you to watch as people get killed in bunches, I'm not immune to the taking of innocent lives. 4 cops, two of them trainers in SWAT. Armed, trained, getting ready to go on duty, shot dead in cold blood by one asshole. Normally, some dunderhead would be arguing that if ONE of those four people had a gun, the gunman couldn't have killed all four. Guess what? It's a ****ing specious argument that just got proven wrong. The cat is long out of the bag on this problem and I have not a clue what to do. The NRA has pushed the availability so far beyond reason that we're doomed to have to live with the consequences for years to come. Humans can be so ****ing short sighted. I'm not among that lot. Firearms are tools. It is our right. We told government hands off in our Constitution. You want to make it a privilege dictated on your terms. By the way, it will surprise you to know that meat doesn't come from the supermarket. The animal was killed a lot less humanely than a Hunter would. The NRA hasn't pushed anything. S--t happens. Life is uncertain. The society is full of criminals. You cannot depend on society or Law Enforcement to be at your side to protect you when a predator comes for you. Even if you have the means to protect yourself it is not a 100% guaranteed you will be the victor. If you don't want to take responsibility for your own existence that's fine. Put a big 911 button on your phone. Go whine and cower in your corner. The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. No one elected to give up their rights and let you be emperor. Leave normal Citizens alone. I agree with this post. Rob |
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... On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:31:53 -0500, lil abner wrote: thunder wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I've never been shot at but. In the mid seventies we had our home invade, while we were sleeping. The trauma so upset us that my wife would not remember it for a long time. I thought I had just dreamed it for some time. We haven't brought it up to our Daughter ever because she hopefully has no memory of it as she was only 4 or 5. There have been a few times over the years that we found ourselves, in situations that we transited without any problem but the dice could roll the other way sometime. I don't carry but have, in the past, in the course of my job. We've been broken into one other time and had different vehicles vandalized several times. Dirt in the gas ruined children's little four wheelers. Daughter's truck has had fuel filters changed and line flushed three times. Boat motor almost ruined by someone putting water in the tank. We live in a rural area and have great LEOs. Most of the time we simply said nothing because, there was nothing to be gained except for the one time and we were so traumatized that we denied it happened for a long while. The need to protect one's self and their family is great. A firearm is appropriate, in many situations. A dog would be more convenient. Sensor driven lighting? A simple security system. There are so many deterrents available. Guns are not a deterrent until they go off. Too often they go off in the wrong direction for the wrong reason. Dogs are ok, but they can be bribed a lot of times. Unlike cats. They were used in Thailand as guard animals. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"lil wrote in message ... thunder wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I've never been shot at but. In the mid seventies we had our home invade, while we were sleeping. The trauma so upset us that my wife would not remember it for a long time. I thought I had just dreamed it for some time. We haven't brought it up to our Daughter ever because she hopefully has no memory of it as she was only 4 or 5. There have been a few times over the years that we found ourselves, in situations that we transited without any problem but the dice could roll the other way sometime. I don't carry but have, in the past, in the course of my job. We've been broken into one other time and had different vehicles vandalized several times. Dirt in the gas ruined children's little four wheelers. Daughter's truck has had fuel filters changed and line flushed three times. Boat motor almost ruined by someone putting water in the tank. We live in a rural area and have great LEOs. Most of the time we simply said nothing because, there was nothing to be gained except for the one time and we were so traumatized that we denied it happened for a long while. The need to protect one's self and their family is great. A firearm is appropriate, in many situations. I live in a fairly remote area. We have a very active neighborhood watch (unofficial) system... phone tree and people who check around regularly. We've had a few situations of unwanted "guests" checking out people's property, but the worst case in my memory (only been here about five years) was some low-lifes who stole a few things on someone's property. Someone got their description and car license, and they were caught pretty quickly. I have a 20-gauge but it's not like I could get it out and ready that quickly. My neighbor wanted to give me a handgun for my b-day, because I'm the only resident in my house, but passed. I have pepper spray. I have no objection to handguns, but I don't feel like I need one. I have good locks, but most people don't really lock up their house around here. Sometimes I do, but only if I'm not at the house. There are nuts everywhere. Locking your house should be your first step. A handgun is an option to consider. Rob (NRA Life Member) |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "lil abner" wrote in message ... thunder wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I've never been shot at but. In the mid seventies we had our home invade, while we were sleeping. The trauma so upset us that my wife would not remember it for a long time. I thought I had just dreamed it for some time. We haven't brought it up to our Daughter ever because she hopefully has no memory of it as she was only 4 or 5. There have been a few times over the years that we found ourselves, in situations that we transited without any problem but the dice could roll the other way sometime. I don't carry but have, in the past, in the course of my job. We've been broken into one other time and had different vehicles vandalized several times. Dirt in the gas ruined children's little four wheelers. Daughter's truck has had fuel filters changed and line flushed three times. Boat motor almost ruined by someone putting water in the tank. We live in a rural area and have great LEOs. Most of the time we simply said nothing because, there was nothing to be gained except for the one time and we were so traumatized that we denied it happened for a long while. The need to protect one's self and their family is great. A firearm is appropriate, in many situations. I live in a fairly remote area. We have a very active neighborhood watch (unofficial) system... phone tree and people who check around regularly. We've had a few situations of unwanted "guests" checking out people's property, but the worst case in my memory (only been here about five years) was some low-lifes who stole a few things on someone's property. Someone got their description and car license, and they were caught pretty quickly. I have a 20-gauge but it's not like I could get it out and ready that quickly. My neighbor wanted to give me a handgun for my b-day, because I'm the only resident in my house, but passed. I have pepper spray. I have no objection to handguns, but I don't feel like I need one. I have good locks, but most people don't really lock up their house around here. Sometimes I do, but only if I'm not at the house. -- Nom=de=Plume Late Monday night/early Tuesday morning some thief slithered around my driveway/back yard and stole my wheelbarrow. I reported it to the police and got a file case number but that will be it. Good thing the next door neighbour (roofing contractor) just gave me one of his slightly damaged wheelbarrows a couple of weeks ago. I walked over to a local hardware store for a 2&1/2" carriage bolt..5/8th size, a washer & nut. $ .50 spent and I have a half decent wheelbarrow again. |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:31:53 -0500, lil abner wrote: thunder wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I've never been shot at but. In the mid seventies we had our home invade, while we were sleeping. The trauma so upset us that my wife would not remember it for a long time. I thought I had just dreamed it for some time. We haven't brought it up to our Daughter ever because she hopefully has no memory of it as she was only 4 or 5. There have been a few times over the years that we found ourselves, in situations that we transited without any problem but the dice could roll the other way sometime. I don't carry but have, in the past, in the course of my job. We've been broken into one other time and had different vehicles vandalized several times. Dirt in the gas ruined children's little four wheelers. Daughter's truck has had fuel filters changed and line flushed three times. Boat motor almost ruined by someone putting water in the tank. We live in a rural area and have great LEOs. Most of the time we simply said nothing because, there was nothing to be gained except for the one time and we were so traumatized that we denied it happened for a long while. The need to protect one's self and their family is great. A firearm is appropriate, in many situations. I figure God made pillows to put your .45 under. -- John H As if your wife would let you put a loaded handgun under a pillow in her bed. I recommend you simply be civil to the minorities in your neighbourhood. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a program called 'Lock & Load'. It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who came in to try out & buy shootin' irons. Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed what looked like auto assault weapons to play with. Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned numerous weapons. Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed. My son and daughter, now 25 and 30 were brought up with guns. Each got to shoot at age eight. My grandpa gave me a .22 when I was eight. My dad had to take me to shoot it, which he did until I was a little older, and I snuck it out. Then, I bought one when I was about 12 and kept it at a friend's house. My son shot a twelve gauge at eight. My daughter fired pistols and rifles one time, and after that never had one ounce of interest, AND NO CURIOSITY TO GO SNOOPING IN THE GUNS. She saw what they were, understood what they did, and she was a smart kid. My son still likes to shoot, but just graduated, and is working on masters and doesn't shoot or hunt or fish much. Kids raised with guns are different than kids forbidden to touch guns, or kids who are raised with guns and the wrong attitude. Steve I forgot about that tactic. I let them fire a handgun, while I kept a grip on it, with hearing protection of course. After that they didn't want anything to do with them. |
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"Rob" wrote in message
... nom=de=plume wrote: "lil wrote in message ... thunder wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I've never been shot at but. In the mid seventies we had our home invade, while we were sleeping. The trauma so upset us that my wife would not remember it for a long time. I thought I had just dreamed it for some time. We haven't brought it up to our Daughter ever because she hopefully has no memory of it as she was only 4 or 5. There have been a few times over the years that we found ourselves, in situations that we transited without any problem but the dice could roll the other way sometime. I don't carry but have, in the past, in the course of my job. We've been broken into one other time and had different vehicles vandalized several times. Dirt in the gas ruined children's little four wheelers. Daughter's truck has had fuel filters changed and line flushed three times. Boat motor almost ruined by someone putting water in the tank. We live in a rural area and have great LEOs. Most of the time we simply said nothing because, there was nothing to be gained except for the one time and we were so traumatized that we denied it happened for a long while. The need to protect one's self and their family is great. A firearm is appropriate, in many situations. I live in a fairly remote area. We have a very active neighborhood watch (unofficial) system... phone tree and people who check around regularly. We've had a few situations of unwanted "guests" checking out people's property, but the worst case in my memory (only been here about five years) was some low-lifes who stole a few things on someone's property. Someone got their description and car license, and they were caught pretty quickly. I have a 20-gauge but it's not like I could get it out and ready that quickly. My neighbor wanted to give me a handgun for my b-day, because I'm the only resident in my house, but passed. I have pepper spray. I have no objection to handguns, but I don't feel like I need one. I have good locks, but most people don't really lock up their house around here. Sometimes I do, but only if I'm not at the house. There are nuts everywhere. Locking your house should be your first step. A handgun is an option to consider. Rob (NRA Life Member) Don't usually feel the need to lock it... when I go to sleep or if I'm feeling particularly creeped out after watching a horror flick. I just re-watched Nightmare on Elm Street last night. So, I locked the doors (and windows and cars). :) -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Don White" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "lil abner" wrote in message ... thunder wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I've never been shot at but. In the mid seventies we had our home invade, while we were sleeping. The trauma so upset us that my wife would not remember it for a long time. I thought I had just dreamed it for some time. We haven't brought it up to our Daughter ever because she hopefully has no memory of it as she was only 4 or 5. There have been a few times over the years that we found ourselves, in situations that we transited without any problem but the dice could roll the other way sometime. I don't carry but have, in the past, in the course of my job. We've been broken into one other time and had different vehicles vandalized several times. Dirt in the gas ruined children's little four wheelers. Daughter's truck has had fuel filters changed and line flushed three times. Boat motor almost ruined by someone putting water in the tank. We live in a rural area and have great LEOs. Most of the time we simply said nothing because, there was nothing to be gained except for the one time and we were so traumatized that we denied it happened for a long while. The need to protect one's self and their family is great. A firearm is appropriate, in many situations. I live in a fairly remote area. We have a very active neighborhood watch (unofficial) system... phone tree and people who check around regularly. We've had a few situations of unwanted "guests" checking out people's property, but the worst case in my memory (only been here about five years) was some low-lifes who stole a few things on someone's property. Someone got their description and car license, and they were caught pretty quickly. I have a 20-gauge but it's not like I could get it out and ready that quickly. My neighbor wanted to give me a handgun for my b-day, because I'm the only resident in my house, but passed. I have pepper spray. I have no objection to handguns, but I don't feel like I need one. I have good locks, but most people don't really lock up their house around here. Sometimes I do, but only if I'm not at the house. -- Nom=de=Plume Late Monday night/early Tuesday morning some thief slithered around my driveway/back yard and stole my wheelbarrow. I reported it to the police and got a file case number but that will be it. Good thing the next door neighbour (roofing contractor) just gave me one of his slightly damaged wheelbarrows a couple of weeks ago. I walked over to a local hardware store for a 2&1/2" carriage bolt..5/8th size, a washer & nut. $ .50 spent and I have a half decent wheelbarrow again. Stole your wheelbarrow? Jeez... that's cheezy. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Rob" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "lil wrote in message ... thunder wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I've never been shot at but. In the mid seventies we had our home invade, while we were sleeping. The trauma so upset us that my wife would not remember it for a long time. I thought I had just dreamed it for some time. We haven't brought it up to our Daughter ever because she hopefully has no memory of it as she was only 4 or 5. There have been a few times over the years that we found ourselves, in situations that we transited without any problem but the dice could roll the other way sometime. I don't carry but have, in the past, in the course of my job. We've been broken into one other time and had different vehicles vandalized several times. Dirt in the gas ruined children's little four wheelers. Daughter's truck has had fuel filters changed and line flushed three times. Boat motor almost ruined by someone putting water in the tank. We live in a rural area and have great LEOs. Most of the time we simply said nothing because, there was nothing to be gained except for the one time and we were so traumatized that we denied it happened for a long while. The need to protect one's self and their family is great. A firearm is appropriate, in many situations. I live in a fairly remote area. We have a very active neighborhood watch (unofficial) system... phone tree and people who check around regularly. We've had a few situations of unwanted "guests" checking out people's property, but the worst case in my memory (only been here about five years) was some low-lifes who stole a few things on someone's property. Someone got their description and car license, and they were caught pretty quickly. I have a 20-gauge but it's not like I could get it out and ready that quickly. My neighbor wanted to give me a handgun for my b-day, because I'm the only resident in my house, but passed. I have pepper spray. I have no objection to handguns, but I don't feel like I need one. I have good locks, but most people don't really lock up their house around here. Sometimes I do, but only if I'm not at the house. There are nuts everywhere. Locking your house should be your first step. A handgun is an option to consider. Rob (NRA Life Member) Don't usually feel the need to lock it... when I go to sleep or if I'm feeling particularly creeped out after watching a horror flick. I just re-watched Nightmare on Elm Street last night. So, I locked the doors (and windows and cars). :) -- Nom=de=Plume Good Lord...don't you get enough of the Kruger family here in wrecked.boats? |
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"lil abner" wrote in message ... jps wrote: On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:51:01 -0500, lil abner wrote: The animal was killed a lot less humanely than a Hunter would. I beg to differ. Unless every hunter *always* gets a clean head shot, your statement is in error. In the US, slaughtered animals are stunned and rendered insensible (unconscious), before they are bled out (unless it is a kosher kill). Done correctly, there is little if any pain. Let me put it this way; Would you rather be stunned and rendered unconcious, then killed (dead before you awoke), or shot in the chest and left to bleed, fully conscious of the fact that you are dying... until you finally died? I'm not against hunting by any means, nor firearms. It's just that I've heard hunters use that defense before, and it just aint true. Base your defense on the constitution... it don't get any better than that. --Mike |
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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 00:06:50 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Rob" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "lil wrote in message ... thunder wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:56:14 -0800, jps wrote: The predators will come for the ones offering the least resistance first. You watch too much television or you're just old, feeble and paranoid. I don't know if he's old and feeble, but he's definitely paranoid. I don't have a problem with guns. If you want to carry, go for it, but if you think you need a gun for protection, you have been watching to much television. I'm 60 years old, and I've never been shy about where I travel, but in all that time, I've never been in a situation where I though I needed a gun. I have been in a few situations where I'm glad guns weren't around. I don't even like carrying the weight of a watch, I sure can't see carrying a gun around for years, on the off chance I might have a use for it. Hell, the average cop never pulls his gun. I've never been shot at but. In the mid seventies we had our home invade, while we were sleeping. The trauma so upset us that my wife would not remember it for a long time. I thought I had just dreamed it for some time. We haven't brought it up to our Daughter ever because she hopefully has no memory of it as she was only 4 or 5. There have been a few times over the years that we found ourselves, in situations that we transited without any problem but the dice could roll the other way sometime. I don't carry but have, in the past, in the course of my job. We've been broken into one other time and had different vehicles vandalized several times. Dirt in the gas ruined children's little four wheelers. Daughter's truck has had fuel filters changed and line flushed three times. Boat motor almost ruined by someone putting water in the tank. We live in a rural area and have great LEOs. Most of the time we simply said nothing because, there was nothing to be gained except for the one time and we were so traumatized that we denied it happened for a long while. The need to protect one's self and their family is great. A firearm is appropriate, in many situations. I live in a fairly remote area. We have a very active neighborhood watch (unofficial) system... phone tree and people who check around regularly. We've had a few situations of unwanted "guests" checking out people's property, but the worst case in my memory (only been here about five years) was some low-lifes who stole a few things on someone's property. Someone got their description and car license, and they were caught pretty quickly. I have a 20-gauge but it's not like I could get it out and ready that quickly. My neighbor wanted to give me a handgun for my b-day, because I'm the only resident in my house, but passed. I have pepper spray. I have no objection to handguns, but I don't feel like I need one. I have good locks, but most people don't really lock up their house around here. Sometimes I do, but only if I'm not at the house. There are nuts everywhere. Locking your house should be your first step. A handgun is an option to consider. Rob (NRA Life Member) Don't usually feel the need to lock it... when I go to sleep or if I'm feeling particularly creeped out after watching a horror flick. I just re-watched Nightmare on Elm Street last night. So, I locked the doors (and windows and cars). :) -- Nom=de=Plume Good Lord...don't you get enough of the Kruger family here in wrecked.boats? Speaking of getting creeped out. Imagine how Mrs. Kruger feels. |
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