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I am Tosk December 1st 09 05:20 PM

Tofurkey?
 
In article e2213531-e65c-4104-8f55-2e5ac5d408c6
@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 1, 10:09*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 1, 10:02*am, I am Tosk wrote:





In article 68a4946f-9593-4fa7-9b5e-1b9348955483
@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 30, 7:02*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article 24bf95f9-03f0-4a63-8a67-5f62a4922a83
@f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 30, 4:38*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:12:51 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker


wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:58*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:31:09 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker


wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:59*am, John H wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:43*am, Loogypicker wrote:


On Nov 30, 9:57*am, I am Tosk wrote:


In article b63abc79-a82f-4a95-be4d-
,
says...


On Nov 29, 8:07*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. *So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. *Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. *I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. *If you smothered *it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.


Why would someone be branded a "nut case" because they've decided on a
healthier lifestyle? Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such. Why is that?
And I LOVE smoked mullet.


It's not so much being the veggie head that makes them "nut cases". It's
the other aspects of their personalities that seems to go along with
that lifestyle, at least up here in the North :)


I had a friend that was a vegatarian. It was just crazy in her mid
thirties hearing her try to tell us that "no animal in the world really
eats meat, only us". What I said? What about Lions I asked? She
explained to me that Lions don't eat meat, "they rip open the animals
and only eat the stomach contents of grass and stuff"! That was about
when I admitted I was an animal and a terrible person for eating meat,
and went on with it...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Most vegetarians aren't concerned with whether animals in the wild eat
meat or not. Most are concerned with human consumption gone wild. What
we have in this country now days is NOTHING short of animal factories.
I've seen it first hand. Animals aren't treated with any regard to
pain, living conditions or anything short of getting them fattened up
and ready for sale. There is also the aspect about what those huge
farms are doing to the environment, let alone eating diseased
animals.
Isn't this a lovely sight:
http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_cows.asp

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...eet_your_Meat/


I really doubt that if there is a God, he'd want us treating his
creatures like this.


Loogy, why jump on this as a political thing? I have a niece who is a
veggan. She's also a conservative. She's also weird, which she wasn't
until she started the veggan stuff. Nothing political about it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where did I say anything political?


Gosh, perhaps I misinterpreted this line you wrote earlier:


"Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
*someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
*such."


Usually you use the term 'wingnuts' when you're referring to
conservatives, i.e. 'right wingers' (as opposed to 'wrong wingers', I
guess).


I suppose you're using the term 'wingnuts' to refer to anyone who
isn't a 'veggan' or other non-meat eater?
--


John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm referring to a wingnut as what it is:
From the Online Slang Dictionary:


wingnut
?someone lacking in mental abilities, uneducated, rather than mentally
handicapped.
he's a a real wingnut!


From Merriam Webster:


Main Entry: wing nut
Function: noun
Date: circa 1900
1 : a nut with wings that provide a grip for the thumb and finger
2 slang : a mentally deranged person
3 slang : one who advocates extreme measures or changes : radical


So, the question would be asked, why are YOU making this political?


Oh wow, I didn't even know such a dictionary existed.


I must apologize then for thinking that you were turning an
informative post into a political statement. You were actually just
'name-calling', like Harry does all the time.


Sorry, I should have known that you weren't saying anything political.


Not to mention trolling for the Christian response bringing God into it
in such a manner. You shouldn't apologize, it was a troll...


--


Apology accepted.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


No, it was a sincere comment. You believe in God, correct? Do you
think He'd approve of someone treating animals as in the vid?Do


Do you think Obama does?? How about Pelosi and Reid, they have a clean
majority in the house and senate and a lock in the Whitehouse? It was
another wrong winger slap at conservative values just like the comments
above about being against all change.. Just political crap strewn into a
non-political conversation... again...


Building I used to be in also housed a bio-entrepreneur who had a
scheme to recycle chicken **** back into chicken feed. *He said that
chickens are really inefficient at converting their food into tissue
so their waste has a lot of food value left in it. *I told him his
scheme sounded a lot like the biological version of perpetual motion.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


They are very inefficient. In Florida, a lot of chicken farmers
(layers) raise some pigs under the cages to eat the crap. Then some
wash it out into a **** lagoon, and raise gators in there that eat the
dead chickens. There's many many chickens that day every day in those
conditions.


Yeah, check into Talapia (sp?) the fish is raised in ponds to eat white
bass **** out west. When they get big, they are sold to the stores for
our consumption too;)

H the K (I post with a Mac) December 1st 09 05:26 PM

Tofurkey?
 
I am Tosk wrote:


Yeah, check into Talapia (sp?) the fish is raised in ponds to eat white
bass **** out west. When they get big, they are sold to the stores for
our consumption too;)



From the looks of the recipes and dinners you've posted, it seems
apparently you already eat enough **** food. How much talapia are you
eating weekly?


--

Loogypicker[_2_] December 1st 09 06:18 PM

Tofurkey?
 
On Dec 1, 12:20*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article e2213531-e65c-4104-8f55-2e5ac5d408c6
@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...







On Dec 1, 10:09 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 1, 10:02 am, I am Tosk wrote:


In article 68a4946f-9593-4fa7-9b5e-1b9348955483
@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 30, 7:02 pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article 24bf95f9-03f0-4a63-8a67-5f62a4922a83
@f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...


On Nov 30, 4:38 pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:12:51 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker


wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:58 pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:31:09 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker


wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:59 am, John H wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:43 am, Loogypicker wrote:


On Nov 30, 9:57 am, I am Tosk wrote:


In article b63abc79-a82f-4a95-be4d-
,
says...


On Nov 29, 8:07 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. If you smothered it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.


Why would someone be branded a "nut case" because they've decided on a
healthier lifestyle? Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such. Why is that?
And I LOVE smoked mullet.


It's not so much being the veggie head that makes them "nut cases". It's
the other aspects of their personalities that seems to go along with
that lifestyle, at least up here in the North :)


I had a friend that was a vegatarian. It was just crazy in her mid
thirties hearing her try to tell us that "no animal in the world really
eats meat, only us". What I said? What about Lions I asked? She
explained to me that Lions don't eat meat, "they rip open the animals
and only eat the stomach contents of grass and stuff"! That was about
when I admitted I was an animal and a terrible person for eating meat,
and went on with it...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Most vegetarians aren't concerned with whether animals in the wild eat
meat or not. Most are concerned with human consumption gone wild. What
we have in this country now days is NOTHING short of animal factories.
I've seen it first hand. Animals aren't treated with any regard to
pain, living conditions or anything short of getting them fattened up
and ready for sale. There is also the aspect about what those huge
farms are doing to the environment, let alone eating diseased
animals.
Isn't this a lovely sight:http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_cows.asp


http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...eet_your_Meat/


I really doubt that if there is a God, he'd want us treating his
creatures like this.


Loogy, why jump on this as a political thing? I have a niece who is a
veggan. She's also a conservative. She's also weird, which she wasn't
until she started the veggan stuff. Nothing political about it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where did I say anything political?


Gosh, perhaps I misinterpreted this line you wrote earlier:


"Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such."


Usually you use the term 'wingnuts' when you're referring to
conservatives, i.e. 'right wingers' (as opposed to 'wrong wingers', I
guess).


I suppose you're using the term 'wingnuts' to refer to anyone who
isn't a 'veggan' or other non-meat eater?
--


John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm referring to a wingnut as what it is:
From the Online Slang Dictionary:


wingnut
?someone lacking in mental abilities, uneducated, rather than mentally
handicapped.
he's a a real wingnut!


From Merriam Webster:


Main Entry: wing nut
Function: noun
Date: circa 1900
1 : a nut with wings that provide a grip for the thumb and finger
2 slang : a mentally deranged person
3 slang : one who advocates extreme measures or changes : radical


So, the question would be asked, why are YOU making this political?


Oh wow, I didn't even know such a dictionary existed.


I must apologize then for thinking that you were turning an
informative post into a political statement. You were actually just
'name-calling', like Harry does all the time.


Sorry, I should have known that you weren't saying anything political.


Not to mention trolling for the Christian response bringing God into it
in such a manner. You shouldn't apologize, it was a troll...


--


Apology accepted.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


No, it was a sincere comment. You believe in God, correct? Do you
think He'd approve of someone treating animals as in the vid?Do


Do you think Obama does?? How about Pelosi and Reid, they have a clean
majority in the house and senate and a lock in the Whitehouse? It was
another wrong winger slap at conservative values just like the comments
above about being against all change.. Just political crap strewn into a
non-political conversation... again...


Building I used to be in also housed a bio-entrepreneur who had a
scheme to recycle chicken **** back into chicken feed. He said that
chickens are really inefficient at converting their food into tissue
so their waste has a lot of food value left in it. I told him his
scheme sounded a lot like the biological version of perpetual motion.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


They are very inefficient. In Florida, a lot of chicken farmers
(layers) raise some pigs under the cages to eat the crap. Then some
wash it out into a **** lagoon, and raise gators in there that eat the
dead chickens. There's many many chickens that day every day in those
conditions.


Yeah, check into Talapia (sp?) the fish is raised in ponds to eat white
bass **** out west. When they get big, they are sold to the stores for
our consumption too;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I agree, they are a more efficient fish, and they taste good too.

John H[_11_] December 1st 09 07:05 PM

Tofurkey?
 
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:12:07 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Nov 30, 7:25*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:02:52 -0500, I am Tosk





wrote:
In article 24bf95f9-03f0-4a63-8a67-5f62a4922a83
, says...


On Nov 30, 4:38*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:12:51 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker


wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:58*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:31:09 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker


wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:59*am, John H wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:43*am, Loogypicker wrote:


On Nov 30, 9:57*am, I am Tosk wrote:


In article b63abc79-a82f-4a95-be4d-
,
says...


On Nov 29, 8:07*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. *So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. *Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. *I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. *If you smothered *it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.


Why would someone be branded a "nut case" because they've decided on a
healthier lifestyle? Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such. Why is that?
And I LOVE smoked mullet.


It's not so much being the veggie head that makes them "nut cases". It's
the other aspects of their personalities that seems to go along with
that lifestyle, at least up here in the North :)


I had a friend that was a vegatarian. It was just crazy in her mid
thirties hearing her try to tell us that "no animal in the world really
eats meat, only us". What I said? What about Lions I asked? She
explained to me that Lions don't eat meat, "they rip open the animals
and only eat the stomach contents of grass and stuff"! That was about
when I admitted I was an animal and a terrible person for eating meat,
and went on with it...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Most vegetarians aren't concerned with whether animals in the wild eat
meat or not. Most are concerned with human consumption gone wild. What
we have in this country now days is NOTHING short of animal factories.
I've seen it first hand. Animals aren't treated with any regard to
pain, living conditions or anything short of getting them fattened up
and ready for sale. There is also the aspect about what those huge
farms are doing to the environment, let alone eating diseased
animals.
Isn't this a lovely sight:http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_cows.asp


http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...eet_your_Meat/


I really doubt that if there is a God, he'd want us treating his
creatures like this.


Loogy, why jump on this as a political thing? I have a niece who is a
veggan. She's also a conservative. She's also weird, which she wasn't
until she started the veggan stuff. Nothing political about it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where did I say anything political?


Gosh, perhaps I misinterpreted this line you wrote earlier:


"Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
*someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
*such."


Usually you use the term 'wingnuts' when you're referring to
conservatives, i.e. 'right wingers' (as opposed to 'wrong wingers', I
guess).


I suppose you're using the term 'wingnuts' to refer to anyone who
isn't a 'veggan' or other non-meat eater?
--


John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm referring to a wingnut as what it is:
From the Online Slang Dictionary:


wingnut
?someone lacking in mental abilities, uneducated, rather than mentally
handicapped.
he's a a real wingnut!


From Merriam Webster:


Main Entry: wing nut
Function: noun
Date: circa 1900
1 : a nut with wings that provide a grip for the thumb and finger
2 slang : a mentally deranged person
3 slang : one who advocates extreme measures or changes : radical


So, the question would be asked, why are YOU making this political?


Oh wow, I didn't even know such a dictionary existed.


I must apologize then for thinking that you were turning an
informative post into a political statement. You were actually just
'name-calling', like Harry does all the time.


Sorry, I should have known that you weren't saying anything political.


Not to mention trolling for the Christian response bringing God into it
in such a manner. You shouldn't apologize, it was a troll...
--


Apology accepted.


Well, I know it was a troll, but I don't have a problem apologizing to
Loogy.

After all, he's going to man up and apologize for calling us names,
right?
--

John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What names did I call you and Scotty?


Wingnuts. You don't remember this: "Seems as though you wingnuts..."

Only Scotty and I had a post going. Or were you talking to the F-18
pilot making 'whoooooooshing' sounds over your head?
--

John H

John H[_11_] December 1st 09 07:08 PM

Tofurkey?
 
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:18:16 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Nov 30, 5:26*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:53:45 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Nov 30, 4:38*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:12:51 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker


wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:58*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:31:09 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker


wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:59*am, John H wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:43*am, Loogypicker wrote:


On Nov 30, 9:57*am, I am Tosk wrote:


In article b63abc79-a82f-4a95-be4d-
,
says...


On Nov 29, 8:07*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. *So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. *Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. *I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. *If you smothered *it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.


Why would someone be branded a "nut case" because they've decided on a
healthier lifestyle? Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such. Why is that?
And I LOVE smoked mullet.


It's not so much being the veggie head that makes them "nut cases". It's
the other aspects of their personalities that seems to go along with
that lifestyle, at least up here in the North :)


I had a friend that was a vegatarian. It was just crazy in her mid
thirties hearing her try to tell us that "no animal in the world really
eats meat, only us". What I said? What about Lions I asked? She
explained to me that Lions don't eat meat, "they rip open the animals
and only eat the stomach contents of grass and stuff"! That was about
when I admitted I was an animal and a terrible person for eating meat,
and went on with it...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Most vegetarians aren't concerned with whether animals in the wild eat
meat or not. Most are concerned with human consumption gone wild. What
we have in this country now days is NOTHING short of animal factories.
I've seen it first hand. Animals aren't treated with any regard to
pain, living conditions or anything short of getting them fattened up
and ready for sale. There is also the aspect about what those huge
farms are doing to the environment, let alone eating diseased
animals.
Isn't this a lovely sight:http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_cows.asp


http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...eet_your_Meat/


I really doubt that if there is a God, he'd want us treating his
creatures like this.


Loogy, why jump on this as a political thing? I have a niece who is a
veggan. She's also a conservative. She's also weird, which she wasn't
until she started the veggan stuff. Nothing political about it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where did I say anything political?


Gosh, perhaps I misinterpreted this line you wrote earlier:


"Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
*someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
*such."


Usually you use the term 'wingnuts' when you're referring to
conservatives, i.e. 'right wingers' (as opposed to 'wrong wingers', I
guess).


I suppose you're using the term 'wingnuts' to refer to anyone who
isn't a 'veggan' or other non-meat eater?
--


John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm referring to a wingnut as what it is:
From the Online Slang Dictionary:


wingnut
•someone lacking in mental abilities, uneducated, rather than mentally
handicapped.
he's a a real wingnut!


From Merriam Webster:


Main Entry: wing nut
Function: noun
Date: circa 1900
1 : a nut with wings that provide a grip for the thumb and finger
2 slang : a mentally deranged person
3 slang : one who advocates extreme measures or changes : radical


So, the question would be asked, why are YOU making this political?


Oh wow, I didn't even know such a dictionary existed.


I must apologize then for thinking that you were turning an
informative post into a political statement. You were actually just
'name-calling', like Harry does all the time.


Sorry, I should have known that you weren't saying anything political.
--


Apology accepted.


Don't you think it would be appropriate for you to apologize for your
name-calling?

* * *:)
--

John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What name did I call you, John?


'Wingnut'. Shame on you.
--

John H

John H[_11_] December 1st 09 07:09 PM

Tofurkey?
 
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 07:58:16 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Dec 1, 10:25*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article 20f20054-9621-4ef8-b42b-679f5b9de800
@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, says...







On Dec 1, 9:53*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...


On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:26:16 -0800, Frogwatch wrote:


*Meat will
be produced from modified zero-conciousness life forms ...


for modified zero-consciousness life forms.


I don't have any soft spot for chickens, damn stupid animals, but you
might want to consider what these factory farms are doing to our health. *
We are running out of effective antibiotics due to resistant bacteria. *
It's mostly due to the overuse of antibiotics on these factory farms. *
Growth hormones? *What the hey, we need 400 lb. football players. *The
sewage, loaded down with said antibiotics, growth hormones, other drugs,
and pesticides? *No problem, it just adds flavoring to our drinking water.


So, how do you suggest we improve the situation without going to Tofu?
People gotta' eat, right?


Raise animals like they have for generations. Some cultures still are
thankful for their bounty, and let their animals live in at least some
sort of comfort.


Who gets to give up their land for that? How much would it cost in the
long run, could we afford it?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Supply and demand, it's the capitalist's mantra! If you want to grow
beef cattle, you pay the price for the land. If you want to eat beef,
you pay the price at the grocery store.


We are.
--

John H

Loogypicker[_2_] December 1st 09 07:59 PM

Tofurkey?
 
On Dec 1, 2:05*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:12:07 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Nov 30, 7:25 pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:02:52 -0500, I am Tosk


wrote:
In article 24bf95f9-03f0-4a63-8a67-5f62a4922a83
, says...


On Nov 30, 4:38 pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:12:51 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker


wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:58 pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:31:09 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker


wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:59 am, John H wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:43 am, Loogypicker wrote:


On Nov 30, 9:57 am, I am Tosk wrote:


In article b63abc79-a82f-4a95-be4d-
,
says...


On Nov 29, 8:07 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. If you smothered it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.


Why would someone be branded a "nut case" because they've decided on a
healthier lifestyle? Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such. Why is that?
And I LOVE smoked mullet.


It's not so much being the veggie head that makes them "nut cases". It's
the other aspects of their personalities that seems to go along with
that lifestyle, at least up here in the North :)


I had a friend that was a vegatarian. It was just crazy in her mid
thirties hearing her try to tell us that "no animal in the world really
eats meat, only us". What I said? What about Lions I asked? She
explained to me that Lions don't eat meat, "they rip open the animals
and only eat the stomach contents of grass and stuff"! That was about
when I admitted I was an animal and a terrible person for eating meat,
and went on with it...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Most vegetarians aren't concerned with whether animals in the wild eat
meat or not. Most are concerned with human consumption gone wild. What
we have in this country now days is NOTHING short of animal factories.
I've seen it first hand. Animals aren't treated with any regard to
pain, living conditions or anything short of getting them fattened up
and ready for sale. There is also the aspect about what those huge
farms are doing to the environment, let alone eating diseased
animals.
Isn't this a lovely sight:http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_cows.asp


http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...eet_your_Meat/


I really doubt that if there is a God, he'd want us treating his
creatures like this.


Loogy, why jump on this as a political thing? I have a niece who is a
veggan. She's also a conservative. She's also weird, which she wasn't
until she started the veggan stuff. Nothing political about it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where did I say anything political?


Gosh, perhaps I misinterpreted this line you wrote earlier:


"Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such."


Usually you use the term 'wingnuts' when you're referring to
conservatives, i.e. 'right wingers' (as opposed to 'wrong wingers', I
guess).


I suppose you're using the term 'wingnuts' to refer to anyone who
isn't a 'veggan' or other non-meat eater?
--


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I'm referring to a wingnut as what it is:
From the Online Slang Dictionary:


wingnut
?someone lacking in mental abilities, uneducated, rather than mentally
handicapped.
he's a a real wingnut!


From Merriam Webster:


Main Entry: wing nut
Function: noun
Date: circa 1900
1 : a nut with wings that provide a grip for the thumb and finger
2 slang : a mentally deranged person
3 slang : one who advocates extreme measures or changes : radical


So, the question would be asked, why are YOU making this political?


Oh wow, I didn't even know such a dictionary existed.


I must apologize then for thinking that you were turning an
informative post into a political statement. You were actually just
'name-calling', like Harry does all the time.


Sorry, I should have known that you weren't saying anything political.


Not to mention trolling for the Christian response bringing God into it
in such a manner. You shouldn't apologize, it was a troll...
--


Apology accepted.


Well, I know it was a troll, but I don't have a problem apologizing to
Loogy.


After all, he's going to man up and apologize for calling us names,
right?
--


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What names did I call you and Scotty?


Wingnuts. You don't remember this: "Seems as though you wingnuts..."

Only Scotty and I had a post going. Or were you talking to the F-18
pilot making 'whoooooooshing' sounds over your head?
--

John H- Hide quoted text -

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Huh???? The reply was to Froggy.......

Loogypicker[_2_] December 1st 09 07:59 PM

Tofurkey?
 
On Dec 1, 2:09*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 07:58:16 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Dec 1, 10:25*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article 20f20054-9621-4ef8-b42b-679f5b9de800
@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, says...


On Dec 1, 9:53*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...


On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:26:16 -0800, Frogwatch wrote:


*Meat will
be produced from modified zero-conciousness life forms ...


for modified zero-consciousness life forms.


I don't have any soft spot for chickens, damn stupid animals, but you
might want to consider what these factory farms are doing to our health. *
We are running out of effective antibiotics due to resistant bacteria. *
It's mostly due to the overuse of antibiotics on these factory farms. *
Growth hormones? *What the hey, we need 400 lb. football players. *The
sewage, loaded down with said antibiotics, growth hormones, other drugs,
and pesticides? *No problem, it just adds flavoring to our drinking water.


So, how do you suggest we improve the situation without going to Tofu?
People gotta' eat, right?


Raise animals like they have for generations. Some cultures still are
thankful for their bounty, and let their animals live in at least some
sort of comfort.


Who gets to give up their land for that? How much would it cost in the
long run, could we afford it?- Hide quoted text -


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Supply and demand, it's the capitalist's mantra! If you want to grow
beef cattle, you pay the price for the land. If you want to eat beef,
you pay the price at the grocery store.


We are.
--

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WHOOOOOOSH

John H[_11_] December 1st 09 08:09 PM

Tofurkey?
 
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:59:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Dec 1, 2:05*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:12:07 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Nov 30, 7:25 pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:02:52 -0500, I am Tosk


wrote:
In article 24bf95f9-03f0-4a63-8a67-5f62a4922a83
, says...


On Nov 30, 4:38 pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:12:51 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker


wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:58 pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:31:09 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker


wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:59 am, John H wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:43 am, Loogypicker wrote:


On Nov 30, 9:57 am, I am Tosk wrote:


In article b63abc79-a82f-4a95-be4d-
,
says...


On Nov 29, 8:07 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. If you smothered it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.


Why would someone be branded a "nut case" because they've decided on a
healthier lifestyle? Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such. Why is that?
And I LOVE smoked mullet.


It's not so much being the veggie head that makes them "nut cases". It's
the other aspects of their personalities that seems to go along with
that lifestyle, at least up here in the North :)


I had a friend that was a vegatarian. It was just crazy in her mid
thirties hearing her try to tell us that "no animal in the world really
eats meat, only us". What I said? What about Lions I asked? She
explained to me that Lions don't eat meat, "they rip open the animals
and only eat the stomach contents of grass and stuff"! That was about
when I admitted I was an animal and a terrible person for eating meat,
and went on with it...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Most vegetarians aren't concerned with whether animals in the wild eat
meat or not. Most are concerned with human consumption gone wild. What
we have in this country now days is NOTHING short of animal factories.
I've seen it first hand. Animals aren't treated with any regard to
pain, living conditions or anything short of getting them fattened up
and ready for sale. There is also the aspect about what those huge
farms are doing to the environment, let alone eating diseased
animals.
Isn't this a lovely sight:http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_cows.asp


http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...eet_your_Meat/


I really doubt that if there is a God, he'd want us treating his
creatures like this.


Loogy, why jump on this as a political thing? I have a niece who is a
veggan. She's also a conservative. She's also weird, which she wasn't
until she started the veggan stuff. Nothing political about it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where did I say anything political?


Gosh, perhaps I misinterpreted this line you wrote earlier:


"Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such."


Usually you use the term 'wingnuts' when you're referring to
conservatives, i.e. 'right wingers' (as opposed to 'wrong wingers', I
guess).


I suppose you're using the term 'wingnuts' to refer to anyone who
isn't a 'veggan' or other non-meat eater?
--


John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm referring to a wingnut as what it is:
From the Online Slang Dictionary:


wingnut
?someone lacking in mental abilities, uneducated, rather than mentally
handicapped.
he's a a real wingnut!


From Merriam Webster:


Main Entry: wing nut
Function: noun
Date: circa 1900
1 : a nut with wings that provide a grip for the thumb and finger
2 slang : a mentally deranged person
3 slang : one who advocates extreme measures or changes : radical


So, the question would be asked, why are YOU making this political?


Oh wow, I didn't even know such a dictionary existed.


I must apologize then for thinking that you were turning an
informative post into a political statement. You were actually just
'name-calling', like Harry does all the time.


Sorry, I should have known that you weren't saying anything political.


Not to mention trolling for the Christian response bringing God into it
in such a manner. You shouldn't apologize, it was a troll...
--


Apology accepted.


Well, I know it was a troll, but I don't have a problem apologizing to
Loogy.


After all, he's going to man up and apologize for calling us names,
right?
--


John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What names did I call you and Scotty?


Wingnuts. You don't remember this: "Seems as though you wingnuts..."

Only Scotty and I had a post going. Or were you talking to the F-18
pilot making 'whoooooooshing' sounds over your head?
--

John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Huh???? The reply was to Froggy.......


Yeah. You called us both a bad name. Shame on you. Oh, and check out
the order of the posts above.
--

John H

Rob December 2nd 09 01:29 AM

Tofurkey?
 
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Nov 29, 7:30 pm, "Steve wrote:


I have never ever met a vegetarian who was NOT a nutcase.


Steve, my son is a vegie and works for an arcatectual firm and has two
degrees in engineering.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

************************************************** *******************

Now you've done it Tim.
You've provided the low lifes in the Dopey Army with ammunition to use
against you at their whim.




Tim isn't an asshole. Try it and you will be treated the same.

Rob


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