On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:53:14 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Nov 30, 4:44*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:13:53 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Nov 30, 1:02*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:46:02 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker

wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:38*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:59*am, John H wrote:

On Nov 30, 10:43*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Nov 30, 9:57*am, I am Tosk wrote:

In article b63abc79-a82f-4a95-be4d-
,
says...

On Nov 29, 8:07*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. *So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. *Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. *I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. *If you smothered *it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.

Why would someone be branded a "nut case" because they've decided on a
healthier lifestyle? Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such. Why is that?
And I LOVE smoked mullet.

It's not so much being the veggie head that makes them "nut cases". It's
the other aspects of their personalities that seems to go along with
that lifestyle, at least up here in the North

I had a friend that was a vegatarian. It was just crazy in her mid
thirties hearing her try to tell us that "no animal in the world really
eats meat, only us". What I said? What about Lions I asked? She
explained to me that Lions don't eat meat, "they rip open the animals
and only eat the stomach contents of grass and stuff"! That was about
when I admitted I was an animal and a terrible person for eating meat,
and went on with it...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Most vegetarians aren't concerned with whether animals in the wild eat
meat or not. Most are concerned with human consumption gone wild. What
we have in this country now days is NOTHING short of animal factories.
I've seen it first hand. Animals aren't treated with any regard to
pain, living conditions or anything short of getting them fattened up
and ready for sale. There is also the aspect about what those huge
farms are doing to the environment, let alone eating diseased
animals.
Isn't this a lovely sight:http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_cows.asp

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...eet_your_Meat/

I really doubt that if there is a God, he'd want us treating his
creatures like this.

Loogy, why jump on this as a political thing? I have a niece who is a
veggan. She's also a conservative. She's also weird, which she wasn't
until she started the veggan stuff. Nothing political about it.

One of my sisters started telling me about how chickens do not have
room to even stand up in the chicken factories. *I gave her a blank
look and then replied, "This is 2009, why do chickens still have feet,
we have no use for chicken feet". *She says, "What, you expect them to
fly all the time?" *After some consideration, I said, "Yes, we could
implant magnets in the chickens and levitate them, that way the number
of chickens would not be dependent on the area of the chicken factory
but on the volume. *There would be a rain of feed from the top and a
conveyor feeding legless chicks from the top. *As the chickens grew,
they would sink to the bottom to be carried away, easy engineering
problem. *God, chicken feet, what a bizarre idea". *She gave me a
horrified look and walked away.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe the reason would become abundantly clear if YOU were in a cage
with 8 other people so cramped in that you couldn't even lift an arm,
vying for good and water. I've seen it first hand, friend had an egg
producing chicken farm. If you think that treating animals
horrifically is a good thing, then you don't think.

Any chicken laying eggs is most likely a healthy chicken. When you're
born and raised in confinement, you don't miss the great outdoors.
Actually, if a chicken is fed and watered and not pecked to death by
other chickens, it's probably quite happy.

This 'free range' idea is poppycock. Chickens don't sit around
daydreaming about the blue skies of Seattle.
--

John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Did you see the videos I posted? How in hell do YOU know what a
chicken is "daydreaming" about?

I grew up on a farm with lots of chickens. Sometimes I'd ask them what
they were doing. Some would say, "Oh, just daydreaming about living in
a chicken factory so we didn't have to walk around pecking the ground
all the time."

No. I didn't look at your videos. Were they interesting?


Figures.

Come on, Loogy, that was funny, and you know it.
--

John H

On Nov 30, 4:53*pm, Loogypicker wrote:
On Nov 30, 4:38*pm, John H wrote:



On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:12:51 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker

wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:58*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:31:09 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker

wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:59*am, John H wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:43*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Nov 30, 9:57*am, I am Tosk wrote:

In article b63abc79-a82f-4a95-be4d-
,
says...

On Nov 29, 8:07*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. *So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. *Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. *I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. *If you smothered *it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.

Why would someone be branded a "nut case" because they've decided on a
healthier lifestyle? Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such. Why is that?
And I LOVE smoked mullet.

It's not so much being the veggie head that makes them "nut cases". It's
the other aspects of their personalities that seems to go along with
that lifestyle, at least up here in the North

I had a friend that was a vegatarian. It was just crazy in her mid
thirties hearing her try to tell us that "no animal in the world really
eats meat, only us". What I said? What about Lions I asked? She
explained to me that Lions don't eat meat, "they rip open the animals
and only eat the stomach contents of grass and stuff"! That was about
when I admitted I was an animal and a terrible person for eating meat,
and went on with it...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Most vegetarians aren't concerned with whether animals in the wild eat
meat or not. Most are concerned with human consumption gone wild. What
we have in this country now days is NOTHING short of animal factories.
I've seen it first hand. Animals aren't treated with any regard to
pain, living conditions or anything short of getting them fattened up
and ready for sale. There is also the aspect about what those huge
farms are doing to the environment, let alone eating diseased
animals.
Isn't this a lovely sight:http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_cows.asp

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...eet_your_Meat/

I really doubt that if there is a God, he'd want us treating his
creatures like this.

Loogy, why jump on this as a political thing? I have a niece who is a
veggan. She's also a conservative. She's also weird, which she wasn't
until she started the veggan stuff. Nothing political about it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Where did I say anything political?

Gosh, perhaps I misinterpreted this line you wrote earlier:

"Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
*someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
*such."

Usually you use the term 'wingnuts' when you're referring to
conservatives, i.e. 'right wingers' (as opposed to 'wrong wingers', I
guess).

I suppose you're using the term 'wingnuts' to refer to anyone who
isn't a 'veggan' or other non-meat eater?
--

John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm referring to a wingnut as what it is:
From the Online Slang Dictionary:

wingnut
•someone lacking in mental abilities, uneducated, rather than mentally
handicapped.
he's a a real wingnut!

From Merriam Webster:

Main Entry: wing nut
Function: noun
Date: circa 1900
1 : a nut with wings that provide a grip for the thumb and finger
2 slang : a mentally deranged person
3 slang : one who advocates extreme measures or changes : radical

So, the question would be asked, why are YOU making this political?

Oh wow, I didn't even know such a dictionary existed.

I must apologize then for thinking that you were turning an
informative post into a political statement. You were actually just
'name-calling', like Harry does all the time.

Sorry, I should have known that you weren't saying anything political.
--

Apology accepted.

If you are worried about how chickens feel then give em all lobotomies
or breed em to not be concious, problem solved. For that matter, I
see no reason why chickens should have feathers these days. For the
chicken wing industry, why not genetically manipulate them to have 8
wings apiece.
If you are worried about how veal calfs feel, then put a vid screen in
their stalls so thye think they are running in fields of clover or
give them electroshock to destroy all higher brain functions.
The future of meat is some sort of mass production that would be far
from the idiocy of Bessy the cow or Henrietta the chicken. Meat will
be produced from modified zero-conciousness life forms, sorta like a
meat vegetable, you know, like liberals.

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:53:45 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Nov 30, 4:38*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:12:51 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:58*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:31:09 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker

wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:59*am, John H wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:43*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Nov 30, 9:57*am, I am Tosk wrote:

In article b63abc79-a82f-4a95-be4d-
,
says...

On Nov 29, 8:07*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. *So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. *Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. *I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. *If you smothered *it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.

Why would someone be branded a "nut case" because they've decided on a
healthier lifestyle? Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such. Why is that?
And I LOVE smoked mullet.

It's not so much being the veggie head that makes them "nut cases". It's
the other aspects of their personalities that seems to go along with
that lifestyle, at least up here in the North

I had a friend that was a vegatarian. It was just crazy in her mid
thirties hearing her try to tell us that "no animal in the world really
eats meat, only us". What I said? What about Lions I asked? She
explained to me that Lions don't eat meat, "they rip open the animals
and only eat the stomach contents of grass and stuff"! That was about
when I admitted I was an animal and a terrible person for eating meat,
and went on with it...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Most vegetarians aren't concerned with whether animals in the wild eat
meat or not. Most are concerned with human consumption gone wild. What
we have in this country now days is NOTHING short of animal factories.
I've seen it first hand. Animals aren't treated with any regard to
pain, living conditions or anything short of getting them fattened up
and ready for sale. There is also the aspect about what those huge
farms are doing to the environment, let alone eating diseased
animals.
Isn't this a lovely sight:http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_cows.asp

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...eet_your_Meat/

I really doubt that if there is a God, he'd want us treating his
creatures like this.

Loogy, why jump on this as a political thing? I have a niece who is a
veggan. She's also a conservative. She's also weird, which she wasn't
until she started the veggan stuff. Nothing political about it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Where did I say anything political?

Gosh, perhaps I misinterpreted this line you wrote earlier:

"Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
*someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
*such."

Usually you use the term 'wingnuts' when you're referring to
conservatives, i.e. 'right wingers' (as opposed to 'wrong wingers', I
guess).

I suppose you're using the term 'wingnuts' to refer to anyone who
isn't a 'veggan' or other non-meat eater?
--

John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm referring to a wingnut as what it is:
From the Online Slang Dictionary:

wingnut
•someone lacking in mental abilities, uneducated, rather than mentally
handicapped.
he's a a real wingnut!

From Merriam Webster:

Main Entry: wing nut
Function: noun
Date: circa 1900
1 : a nut with wings that provide a grip for the thumb and finger
2 slang : a mentally deranged person
3 slang : one who advocates extreme measures or changes : radical

So, the question would be asked, why are YOU making this political?

Oh wow, I didn't even know such a dictionary existed.

I must apologize then for thinking that you were turning an
informative post into a political statement. You were actually just
'name-calling', like Harry does all the time.

Sorry, I should have known that you weren't saying anything political.
--

Apology accepted.

Don't you think it would be appropriate for you to apologize for your
name-calling?

:)
--

John H

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:54:03 -0800, jps wrote:



I went without eating beef for 15 years, not because of my health but
because of the perversity of supporting a system that plunders our
country's resources.

Vegetarians, in my experience, are more likely to be aware of their
own health and the health of the environment. No wonder the Bigot
Steve doesn't understand them.
There is no scientific or medical evidence that vegetarians live
longer or are healthier than non-vegetarians.*
Eddie

*Dr. Dean Edell on KGO radio, SF CA

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:31:24 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:43:22 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Steve B" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:07:27 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. If you smothered it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.

I have never ever met a vegetarian who was NOT a nutcase. If this is so
good for you, why is it that the practitioners of it are so agressively
adamant about it? It seems to radically change their internal
chemistry,
and dominoes into their personality. Some of these people who you would
think eat nuts and berries turn into people with the personality of
grizzly bears.

Just MHO, YMMV

Steve

Sure thing... grease burgers are heart food.

I went without eating beef for 15 years, not because of my health but
because of the perversity of supporting a system that plunders our
country's resources.

Vegetarians, in my experience, are more likely to be aware of their
own health and the health of the environment. No wonder the Bigot
Steve doesn't understand them.


I've never been a true vegetarian but I've cut way down on meat. Sushi is my
favorite, but a burger or roast can't be beat sometimes.

Kid's are growing and the protein is good for them. We've relaxed but
only buy beef that was raised well and died humanely. No feed lot
purchases. Free range chicken/turkey. Getting a little freaked out
by the overfishing so going easy on sushi. Make California rolls at
home. Love uni and there's plenty of that.

Have a friend who slow roasts ribs... Mmmmmmmm.

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:35:46 -0500, "H the K (I post with a Mac)"
wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:43:22 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:07:27 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. If you smothered it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.
I have never ever met a vegetarian who was NOT a nutcase. If this is so
good for you, why is it that the practitioners of it are so agressively
adamant about it? It seems to radically change their internal
chemistry,
and dominoes into their personality. Some of these people who you would
think eat nuts and berries turn into people with the personality of
grizzly bears.

Just MHO, YMMV

Steve
Sure thing... grease burgers are heart food.
I went without eating beef for 15 years, not because of my health but
because of the perversity of supporting a system that plunders our
country's resources.

Vegetarians, in my experience, are more likely to be aware of their
own health and the health of the environment. No wonder the Bigot
Steve doesn't understand them.


I've never been a true vegetarian but I've cut way down on meat. Sushi is my
favorite, but a burger or roast can't be beat sometimes.



Sushi! Did you say sushi! :) We love fresh sushi. Got a left coast
trip coming up soon and plan to satisfy that sushi appetite.

We seem to be eating a lot more poached fish and baked and broiled
chicken and turkey than we used to...probably go a week or even two
without eating beef.

That's good. Poached is awesome when done right. Got to be careful
about fish selection w/overfishing. Good news for some species of
salmon out here that are making comebacks.

Do you prep a sauce for fish or seaon in any way when poaching?

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:50:35 -0800, Eddie
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:54:03 -0800, jps wrote:



I went without eating beef for 15 years, not because of my health but
because of the perversity of supporting a system that plunders our
country's resources.

Vegetarians, in my experience, are more likely to be aware of their
own health and the health of the environment. No wonder the Bigot
Steve doesn't understand them.
There is no scientific or medical evidence that vegetarians live
longer or are healthier than non-vegetarians.*
Eddie

*Dr. Dean Edell on KGO radio, SF CA

I can come up with any number of quotes from reputable doctors who'd
say exactly the opposite.

How about heart disease and ingesting animal fat. Think there's no
correlation?

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:52:24 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:31:24 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:43:22 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Steve B" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:07:27 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. If you smothered it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.

I have never ever met a vegetarian who was NOT a nutcase. If this is so
good for you, why is it that the practitioners of it are so agressively
adamant about it? It seems to radically change their internal
chemistry,
and dominoes into their personality. Some of these people who you would
think eat nuts and berries turn into people with the personality of
grizzly bears.

Just MHO, YMMV

Steve

Sure thing... grease burgers are heart food.

I went without eating beef for 15 years, not because of my health but
because of the perversity of supporting a system that plunders our
country's resources.

Vegetarians, in my experience, are more likely to be aware of their
own health and the health of the environment. No wonder the Bigot
Steve doesn't understand them.


I've never been a true vegetarian but I've cut way down on meat. Sushi is my
favorite, but a burger or roast can't be beat sometimes.

Kid's are growing and the protein is good for them. We've relaxed but
only buy beef that was raised well and died humanely. No feed lot
purchases. Free range chicken/turkey. Getting a little freaked out
by the overfishing so going easy on sushi. Make California rolls at
home. Love uni and there's plenty of that.

Have a friend who slow roasts ribs... Mmmmmmmm.

Meant slow cooks, using low heat and charcoal.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 30, 4:53 pm, Loogypicker wrote:
On Nov 30, 4:38 pm, John H wrote:



On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:12:51 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:58 pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:31:09 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:59 am, John H wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:43 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:57 am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article b63abc79-a82f-4a95-be4d-
,
says...
On Nov 29, 8:07 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. If you smothered it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.
Why would someone be branded a "nut case" because they've decided on a
healthier lifestyle? Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such. Why is that?
And I LOVE smoked mullet.
It's not so much being the veggie head that makes them "nut cases". It's
the other aspects of their personalities that seems to go along with
that lifestyle, at least up here in the North
I had a friend that was a vegatarian. It was just crazy in her mid
thirties hearing her try to tell us that "no animal in the world really
eats meat, only us". What I said? What about Lions I asked? She
explained to me that Lions don't eat meat, "they rip open the animals
and only eat the stomach contents of grass and stuff"! That was about
when I admitted I was an animal and a terrible person for eating meat,
and went on with it...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Most vegetarians aren't concerned with whether animals in the wild eat
meat or not. Most are concerned with human consumption gone wild. What
we have in this country now days is NOTHING short of animal factories.
I've seen it first hand. Animals aren't treated with any regard to
pain, living conditions or anything short of getting them fattened up
and ready for sale. There is also the aspect about what those huge
farms are doing to the environment, let alone eating diseased
animals.
Isn't this a lovely sight:http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_cows.asp
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...eet_your_Meat/
I really doubt that if there is a God, he'd want us treating his
creatures like this.
Loogy, why jump on this as a political thing? I have a niece who is a
veggan. She's also a conservative. She's also weird, which she wasn't
until she started the veggan stuff. Nothing political about it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Where did I say anything political?
Gosh, perhaps I misinterpreted this line you wrote earlier:
"Seems as though you wingnuts instantly brand
someone that doesn't live your exact lifestyle as nutcases or some
such."
Usually you use the term 'wingnuts' when you're referring to
conservatives, i.e. 'right wingers' (as opposed to 'wrong wingers', I
guess).
I suppose you're using the term 'wingnuts' to refer to anyone who
isn't a 'veggan' or other non-meat eater?
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I'm referring to a wingnut as what it is:
From the Online Slang Dictionary:
wingnut
•someone lacking in mental abilities, uneducated, rather than mentally
handicapped.
he's a a real wingnut!
From Merriam Webster:
Main Entry: wing nut
Function: noun
Date: circa 1900
1 : a nut with wings that provide a grip for the thumb and finger
2 slang : a mentally deranged person
3 slang : one who advocates extreme measures or changes : radical
So, the question would be asked, why are YOU making this political?
Oh wow, I didn't even know such a dictionary existed.
I must apologize then for thinking that you were turning an
informative post into a political statement. You were actually just
'name-calling', like Harry does all the time.
Sorry, I should have known that you weren't saying anything political.
--
Apology accepted.

If you are worried about how chickens feel then give em all lobotomies


So they'll be more like loogy, herring, justhate and the rest of the
reich-wing retards here?

Unfair to chickens.



--
If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting
your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because,
well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I
don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As
always, have a nice, simple-minded day.

jps wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:35:46 -0500, "H the K (I post with a Mac)"
wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:43:22 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:07:27 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

ALL of my seven sisters have become veggie nut cases although
fortunately their kids have not succumbed. So, I was naturally
skeptical to see a vague meat-looking waaaaay too symmetrical blob
covered with gravy and dressing at Thanksgiving AND, there was an
identical one next to it. Yeah, sorta meat-like texture but no
internal structure. I just had to ask, Yup, it was Tofurkey and to be
nice I had to take some. If you smothered it with enough gravy and
had a few drinks, MAYBE you could accept it.
Fortunately, my brother had made some smoked turkey and brother in law
made some smoked mullet.
I have never ever met a vegetarian who was NOT a nutcase. If this is so
good for you, why is it that the practitioners of it are so agressively
adamant about it? It seems to radically change their internal
chemistry,
and dominoes into their personality. Some of these people who you would
think eat nuts and berries turn into people with the personality of
grizzly bears.

Just MHO, YMMV

Steve
Sure thing... grease burgers are heart food.
I went without eating beef for 15 years, not because of my health but
because of the perversity of supporting a system that plunders our
country's resources.

Vegetarians, in my experience, are more likely to be aware of their
own health and the health of the environment. No wonder the Bigot
Steve doesn't understand them.

I've never been a true vegetarian but I've cut way down on meat. Sushi is my
favorite, but a burger or roast can't be beat sometimes.


Sushi! Did you say sushi! :) We love fresh sushi. Got a left coast
trip coming up soon and plan to satisfy that sushi appetite.

We seem to be eating a lot more poached fish and baked and broiled
chicken and turkey than we used to...probably go a week or even two
without eating beef.

That's good. Poached is awesome when done right. Got to be careful
about fish selection w/overfishing. Good news for some species of
salmon out here that are making comebacks.

Do you prep a sauce for fish or seaon in any way when poaching?


My wife came up with a really nice sauce for some poached trout we had
last week. Dunno if it was her recipe or a swipe. Will find out.

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