It's over. Rep. Bill Owens, D-Plattsburgh, leads by 3,105 votes with
3,072 absentee ballots left to be counted.

With 58.6 percent of all absentees counted, Mr. Hoffman has gained 71
votes on Mr. Owens so far.

Steve Singiser:

Why did Hoffman concede in the first place? That I’d credit to the
campaign’s overconfidence. They went into election day planning for a
clear victory. Hoffman bragged to me, and to other reporters, that he
hadn’t even talked to Dede Scozzafava, the ousted GOP candidate,
because he’d “win without her.” When votes started coming in far, far
below their expectations, they lost hope very quickly.

So a political neophyte who had grown convinced that his victory was
assured, and that he was the new conservative superstar, learns
instead that the voters of the 23rd district do not share the fervor
for him found within the teabagger crowd.

Shellshocked, and no doubt more than a little embarrassed, he coughs
out a quick and painful statement of concession, wanting to leave the
stage as quickly as possible.

On 11/20/09 1:33 PM, jps wrote:
Why did Hoffman concede in the first place? That I’d credit to the
campaign’s overconfidence.




Delicious...from CBS News:

There are not enough outstanding votes left for Doug Hoffman, the
Conservative Party candidate who conceded-and-then-unconceded following
his apparent loss in the closely-watched NY-23 House race, to catch his
opponant.

The Watertown Times reports that Democrat Bill Owens now leads Hoffman
by 3,105 votes with only 3,072 absentee ballots to be counted. Even if
every one of those ballots went to Hoffman, he still couldn't close the gap.

Hoffman formally announced Wednesday that he was withdrawing his
election night concession, echoing a comment on Glenn Beck’s radio show.
He blamed community-organizing group ACORN for stealing the election,
though he provided no evidence.

Owens was sworn into Congress earlier this month, and he voted in favor
of the health care reform bill that narrowly passed the House.

There is speculation that Hoffman's decision to question the election is
a fundraising gambit aimed at recouping some of the personal funds he
spent on the race.

Hoffman's Web site features a story entitled "VIRUS in the VOTING
MACHINES" that alleges "The computerized voting machines used by many
voters in the 23rd district had a computer virus - tainting the results,
not just from those machines known to have been infected, but casting
doubt on the accuracy of counts retrieved from any of the machines."


Virus in the brain is more likely... :)




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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:37:58 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/20/09 1:33 PM, jps wrote:
Why did Hoffman concede in the first place? That I’d credit to the
campaign’s overconfidence.




Delicious...from CBS News:

There are not enough outstanding votes left for Doug Hoffman, the
Conservative Party candidate who conceded-and-then-unconceded following
his apparent loss in the closely-watched NY-23 House race, to catch his
opponant.

The Watertown Times reports that Democrat Bill Owens now leads Hoffman
by 3,105 votes with only 3,072 absentee ballots to be counted. Even if
every one of those ballots went to Hoffman, he still couldn't close the gap.

Hoffman formally announced Wednesday that he was withdrawing his
election night concession, echoing a comment on Glenn Beck’s radio show.
He blamed community-organizing group ACORN for stealing the election,
though he provided no evidence.

Owens was sworn into Congress earlier this month, and he voted in favor
of the health care reform bill that narrowly passed the House.

There is speculation that Hoffman's decision to question the election is
a fundraising gambit aimed at recouping some of the personal funds he
spent on the race.

Hoffman's Web site features a story entitled "VIRUS in the VOTING
MACHINES" that alleges "The computerized voting machines used by many
voters in the 23rd district had a computer virus - tainting the results,
not just from those machines known to have been infected, but casting
doubt on the accuracy of counts retrieved from any of the machines."


Virus in the brain is more likely... :)

I'm betting that's led to shrunken balls syndrome.

He'll be queing up for testosterone therapy before long.

"H the K" wrote in message
...
On 11/20/09 1:33 PM, jps wrote:
Why did Hoffman concede in the first place? That I’d credit to the
campaign’s overconfidence.




Delicious...from CBS News:

There are not enough outstanding votes left for Doug Hoffman, the
Conservative Party candidate who conceded-and-then-unconceded following
his apparent loss in the closely-watched NY-23 House race, to catch his
opponant.

The Watertown Times reports that Democrat Bill Owens now leads Hoffman by
3,105 votes with only 3,072 absentee ballots to be counted. Even if every
one of those ballots went to Hoffman, he still couldn't close the gap.

Hoffman formally announced Wednesday that he was withdrawing his election
night concession, echoing a comment on Glenn Beck’s radio show. He blamed
community-organizing group ACORN for stealing the election, though he
provided no evidence.

Owens was sworn into Congress earlier this month, and he voted in favor of
the health care reform bill that narrowly passed the House.

There is speculation that Hoffman's decision to question the election is a
fundraising gambit aimed at recouping some of the personal funds he spent
on the race.

Hoffman's Web site features a story entitled "VIRUS in the VOTING
MACHINES" that alleges "The computerized voting machines used by many
voters in the 23rd district had a computer virus - tainting the results,
not just from those machines known to have been infected, but casting
doubt on the accuracy of counts retrieved from any of the machines."


Thus, it's Obama's fault...

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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:21:57 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"H the K" wrote in message
...
On 11/20/09 1:33 PM, jps wrote:
Why did Hoffman concede in the first place? That I’d credit to the
campaign’s overconfidence.




Delicious...from CBS News:

There are not enough outstanding votes left for Doug Hoffman, the
Conservative Party candidate who conceded-and-then-unconceded following
his apparent loss in the closely-watched NY-23 House race, to catch his
opponant.

The Watertown Times reports that Democrat Bill Owens now leads Hoffman by
3,105 votes with only 3,072 absentee ballots to be counted. Even if every
one of those ballots went to Hoffman, he still couldn't close the gap.

Hoffman formally announced Wednesday that he was withdrawing his election
night concession, echoing a comment on Glenn Beck’s radio show. He blamed
community-organizing group ACORN for stealing the election, though he
provided no evidence.

Owens was sworn into Congress earlier this month, and he voted in favor of
the health care reform bill that narrowly passed the House.

There is speculation that Hoffman's decision to question the election is a
fundraising gambit aimed at recouping some of the personal funds he spent
on the race.

Hoffman's Web site features a story entitled "VIRUS in the VOTING
MACHINES" that alleges "The computerized voting machines used by many
voters in the 23rd district had a computer virus - tainting the results,
not just from those machines known to have been infected, but casting
doubt on the accuracy of counts retrieved from any of the machines."


Thus, it's Obama's fault...

The "government" owns the machines. What did you expect?

Acorn stole the vote for Owens and Obama, don't you know?

WTF is happening to our country...

Who'll get shot first, President Obama or Glenn Beck.

On Nov 20, 12:44*pm, jps wrote:


I'm betting that's led to shrunken balls syndrome. *

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- Show quoted text -

Still infatuated with the male genitalia, JPS?

"jps" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:02:48 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:21:57 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"H the K" wrote in message
...
On 11/20/09 1:33 PM, jps wrote:
Why did Hoffman concede in the first place? That I'd credit to the
campaign's overconfidence.




Delicious...from CBS News:

There are not enough outstanding votes left for Doug Hoffman, the
Conservative Party candidate who conceded-and-then-unconceded
following
his apparent loss in the closely-watched NY-23 House race, to catch
his
opponant.

The Watertown Times reports that Democrat Bill Owens now leads Hoffman
by
3,105 votes with only 3,072 absentee ballots to be counted. Even if
every
one of those ballots went to Hoffman, he still couldn't close the gap.

Hoffman formally announced Wednesday that he was withdrawing his
election
night concession, echoing a comment on Glenn Beck's radio show. He
blamed
community-organizing group ACORN for stealing the election, though he
provided no evidence.

Owens was sworn into Congress earlier this month, and he voted in
favor
of
the health care reform bill that narrowly passed the House.

There is speculation that Hoffman's decision to question the election
is
a
fundraising gambit aimed at recouping some of the personal funds he
spent
on the race.

Hoffman's Web site features a story entitled "VIRUS in the VOTING
MACHINES" that alleges "The computerized voting machines used by many
voters in the 23rd district had a computer virus - tainting the
results,
not just from those machines known to have been infected, but casting
doubt on the accuracy of counts retrieved from any of the machines."


Thus, it's Obama's fault...

The "government" owns the machines. What did you expect?

Acorn stole the vote for Owens and Obama, don't you know?

WTF is happening to our country...

Who'll get shot first, President Obama or Glenn Beck.


Neither I hope. Violence has no place in a democracy.

I agree but I'm not sure democracy is what we have...


We have a representative democracy. It's not very representative sometimes,
but being the worst system available, it's better than the others.


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Nom=de=Plume

On Nov 20, 5:43*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message

news




On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:02:48 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:21:57 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"H the K" wrote in message
...
On 11/20/09 1:33 PM, jps wrote:
Why did Hoffman concede in the first place? That I'd credit to the
campaign's overconfidence.

Delicious...from CBS News:

There are not enough outstanding votes left for Doug Hoffman, the
Conservative Party candidate who conceded-and-then-unconceded
following
his apparent loss in the closely-watched NY-23 House race, to catch
his
opponant.

The Watertown Times reports that Democrat Bill Owens now leads Hoffman
by
3,105 votes with only 3,072 absentee ballots to be counted. Even if
every
one of those ballots went to Hoffman, he still couldn't close the gap.

Hoffman formally announced Wednesday that he was withdrawing his
election
night concession, echoing a comment on Glenn Beck's radio show. He
blamed
community-organizing group ACORN for stealing the election, though he
provided no evidence.

Owens was sworn into Congress earlier this month, and he voted in
favor
of
the health care reform bill that narrowly passed the House.

There is speculation that Hoffman's decision to question the election
is
a
fundraising gambit aimed at recouping some of the personal funds he
spent
on the race.

Hoffman's Web site features a story entitled "VIRUS in the VOTING
MACHINES" that alleges "The computerized voting machines used by many
voters in the 23rd district had a computer virus - tainting the
results,
not just from those machines known to have been infected, but casting
doubt on the accuracy of counts retrieved from any of the machines."

Thus, it's Obama's fault...

The "government" owns the machines. *What did you expect?

Acorn stole the vote for Owens and Obama, don't you know?

WTF is happening to our country...

Who'll get shot first, President Obama or Glenn Beck.

Neither I hope. Violence has no place in a democracy.

I agree but I'm not sure democracy is what we have...

We have a representative democracy. It's not very representative sometimes,
but being the worst system available, it's better than the others.

--
Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How can you explain that democracy be better than other systems of
government, if you declare it is the 'worst system available??'

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:43:28 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:02:48 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:21:57 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"H the K" wrote in message
...
On 11/20/09 1:33 PM, jps wrote:
Why did Hoffman concede in the first place? That I'd credit to the
campaign's overconfidence.




Delicious...from CBS News:

There are not enough outstanding votes left for Doug Hoffman, the
Conservative Party candidate who conceded-and-then-unconceded
following
his apparent loss in the closely-watched NY-23 House race, to catch
his
opponant.

The Watertown Times reports that Democrat Bill Owens now leads Hoffman
by
3,105 votes with only 3,072 absentee ballots to be counted. Even if
every
one of those ballots went to Hoffman, he still couldn't close the gap.

Hoffman formally announced Wednesday that he was withdrawing his
election
night concession, echoing a comment on Glenn Beck's radio show. He
blamed
community-organizing group ACORN for stealing the election, though he
provided no evidence.

Owens was sworn into Congress earlier this month, and he voted in
favor
of
the health care reform bill that narrowly passed the House.

There is speculation that Hoffman's decision to question the election
is
a
fundraising gambit aimed at recouping some of the personal funds he
spent
on the race.

Hoffman's Web site features a story entitled "VIRUS in the VOTING
MACHINES" that alleges "The computerized voting machines used by many
voters in the 23rd district had a computer virus - tainting the
results,
not just from those machines known to have been infected, but casting
doubt on the accuracy of counts retrieved from any of the machines."


Thus, it's Obama's fault...

The "government" owns the machines. What did you expect?

Acorn stole the vote for Owens and Obama, don't you know?

WTF is happening to our country...

Who'll get shot first, President Obama or Glenn Beck.


Neither I hope. Violence has no place in a democracy.

I agree but I'm not sure democracy is what we have...


We have a representative democracy. It's not very representative sometimes,
but being the worst system available, it's better than the others.

Ron Reagan was on Chris Matthews show last night. I'm pretty sure it
was he who said "Lieberman either represents Hartford or The
Hartford."

Best representation money can buy. Every once in a while, citizens
get something out of the deal.

"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...
On Nov 20, 5:43 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message

news




On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:02:48 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:21:57 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"H the K" wrote in message
...
On 11/20/09 1:33 PM, jps wrote:
Why did Hoffman concede in the first place? That I'd credit to the
campaign's overconfidence.

Delicious...from CBS News:

There are not enough outstanding votes left for Doug Hoffman, the
Conservative Party candidate who conceded-and-then-unconceded
following
his apparent loss in the closely-watched NY-23 House race, to catch
his
opponant.

The Watertown Times reports that Democrat Bill Owens now leads
Hoffman
by
3,105 votes with only 3,072 absentee ballots to be counted. Even if
every
one of those ballots went to Hoffman, he still couldn't close the
gap.

Hoffman formally announced Wednesday that he was withdrawing his
election
night concession, echoing a comment on Glenn Beck's radio show. He
blamed
community-organizing group ACORN for stealing the election, though
he
provided no evidence.

Owens was sworn into Congress earlier this month, and he voted in
favor
of
the health care reform bill that narrowly passed the House.

There is speculation that Hoffman's decision to question the
election
is
a
fundraising gambit aimed at recouping some of the personal funds he
spent
on the race.

Hoffman's Web site features a story entitled "VIRUS in the VOTING
MACHINES" that alleges "The computerized voting machines used by
many
voters in the 23rd district had a computer virus - tainting the
results,
not just from those machines known to have been infected, but
casting
doubt on the accuracy of counts retrieved from any of the machines."

Thus, it's Obama's fault...

The "government" owns the machines. What did you expect?

Acorn stole the vote for Owens and Obama, don't you know?

WTF is happening to our country...

Who'll get shot first, President Obama or Glenn Beck.

Neither I hope. Violence has no place in a democracy.

I agree but I'm not sure democracy is what we have...

We have a representative democracy. It's not very representative
sometimes,
but being the worst system available, it's better than the others.

--
Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How can you explain that democracy be better than other systems of
government, if you declare it is the 'worst system available??'


I know this is tough for you, but I was paraphrasing Winston Churhill....

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/364.html

Have a nice rant...

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