People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. People like jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. People like jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".


Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we moved to
a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL, where I
stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in Air Force,
followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in military
reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a dime of
unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many of our
younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state should
care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't do for
themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who would
take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand independent
thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their snobbery and false
superiority is sickening. And since life is too precious to spend it in
further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I plonked my self from this
maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.

On 11/19/09 10:14 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.


You "capitalists" have ****ed up what was once the greatest country on
the face of the earth.


--
If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting
your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because,
well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I
don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As
always, have a nice, simple-minded day.

In article ,
says...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. People like jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".


Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we moved to
a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL, where I
stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in Air Force,
followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in military
reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a dime of
unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many of our
younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state should
care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't do for
themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who would
take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand independent
thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their snobbery and false
superiority is sickening. And since life is too precious to spend it in
further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I plonked my self from this
maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.



Well, looks like our lefties have won another one. No questions, no
compromise, no opposing opinions, just censorship and propoganda.. Just
the way the left likes it..

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:14:53 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality.

I own the company you silly fool. It's the same company I founded and
have been a major shareholder of for 17 years. It counts
multinational corporations as clients. It's a creation of my own
doing. My own initiative, my own risk. I've never had to give
anything away to get a company to purchase my products.

Is your company what an audit would confirm is a going concern?

Is that why you have no employees and use engineers in India?

They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".

Is that what you're bitchin' and whinin' about?

I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. People like jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but instead
want to live off the efforts of others.

Again, you are without basis. This is the third company I've been a
founder of and remain it's CEO after 17 years. How old is your
concern and what level of clientelle does it claim?

Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own.

The last time I worked for someone else was in my early thirties. I
ran a consulting firm at the same time since it wasn't bringing in
enough to support the household.

When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.

Talking about me? Foot in mouth?

So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".

Thanks for the advice. I've been working for myself since I was in my
late teens.

I guarantee I've spent more years engaged in entreprenurial ventures
than you. Maybe you should find someone else to lecture.

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:34:01 -0500, "Lu Powell"
wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. People like jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".


Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we moved to
a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL, where I
stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in Air Force,
followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in military
reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a dime of
unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many of our
younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state should
care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't do for
themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who would
take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand independent
thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their snobbery and false
superiority is sickening. And since life is too precious to spend it in
further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I plonked my self from this
maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.

Congratulations!

On Nov 19, 11:04*pm, jps wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:34:01 -0500, "Lu Powell"
wrote:





"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. *They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. *She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. *When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. *People like jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. *When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. *If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".

Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we moved to
a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL, where I
stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in Air Force,
followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in military
reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a dime of
unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many of our
younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state should
care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't do for
themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who would
take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand independent
thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their snobbery and false
superiority is sickening. And since life is too precious to spend it in
further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I plonked my self from this
maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.

Congratulations!

3rd company founded, been in business since 1995. Sell all over world
including major semiconductor companies, many national labs, FBI,
NIST, etc. YUP, I thinks I knows a thang er two.
So, jps, you must hate being self employed cuz you dont seem to enjoy
it or find it valueable. I have so much fun it amazes me I manage to
pay myself. I am in science geek paradise with all kinds of cool
toys.
So, jps, if you hate capitalism, yer just doin it wrong. Maybe you
need a real job till you figure it out.

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:44:57 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Nov 19, 11:04*pm, jps wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:34:01 -0500, "Lu Powell"
wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. *They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. *She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".
I know, I been there and done that, unemployed for 5 months before
rolling the dice and starting my company using home equity and
scavenging junk to make lab equipment. *When you are the founder of a
small business who has endured just about every disaster that can
befall you, you tend to have little pity for whiners. *People like jps
are simply too lazy to live off their own mental capacity but instead
want to live off the efforts of others.
Now, I can understand younger people having to work for somebody else
for awhile cuz they don't yet have enough knowledge to be on their
own. *When you get older, instead of bitchin and whining about them
"Evil Capitalists", go to work for yourself. *If you don't yet know
how to work for yourself, then you aren't ready to do so; keep
learning and shut up until you do.
So, engage those two neurons and figure a way to work for yourself and
then you will no longer be excess population and will become part of
the solution. Creating jobs for others is the most laudable thing a
person can do but you will never get any credit for it, only the blame
for them being unhappy it isn't a "perfect job".

Amen and amen. I started life in a sawmill laborers hovel, then we moved to
a sharecroppers shack of a farm. At age 4, we moved to Miami, FL, where I
stayed till I finished high school. Eight years active duty in Air Force,
followed by 30 years law enforcement as well as 30 years in military
reserve. Along the way completed college and graduate school.

At times worked a full time plus part-time jobs to keep family fed and
sheltered. I never sponged off the public dole, never collected a dime of
unemployment pay. Some of the jobs I worked wouldn't be done by many of our
younger generation, or even of my own who believe the nanny state should
care for them from cradle to grave.

When life was its toughest, I always counted my blessings. Knowing that
life is what we make of it, I really have no patience for the bleeding
hearts who would deprive me and millions of others of their hard earned
money in order to pass along to others who can't or most often won't do for
themselves.

I willingly give to charities of my choice. I resent highly those who would
take the fruit of my labors to give to anyone else.

Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand independent
thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their snobbery and false
superiority is sickening. And since life is too precious to spend it in
further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I plonked my self from this
maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.

Congratulations!

3rd company founded, been in business since 1995. Sell all over world
including major semiconductor companies, many national labs, FBI,
NIST, etc. YUP, I thinks I knows a thang er two.
So, jps, you must hate being self employed cuz you dont seem to enjoy
it or find it valueable. I have so much fun it amazes me I manage to
pay myself. I am in science geek paradise with all kinds of cool
toys.
So, jps, if you hate capitalism, yer just doin it wrong. Maybe you
need a real job till you figure it out.

I don't hate capitalism. I hate greedy *******s who haven't learned
the value of paying their way or sharing the wealth. Those who earn
great wealth have great responsibility. This country provides the
foundation for success (especially if you're the right color) and the
infrastructure to create vast organizations.

We have several of them in the NW and more are popping up every day.

The top 2 or 3% own a huge portion of the country's wealth. They
shouldn't expect anything but to be taxed at an extraordinary rate.

The money is going up and the middle class is going away. Very few
haves, a ****load of have nots.

I'm for equity among citizens, including health care. Without the
government telling me I must, I already provide health care to
employees, including myself. I know how important it is to my family
and want my employees to feel as secure as I do in knowing their
spouses and children will receive the attention they need when the
time comes.

WTF is wrong with American Business? Do you enjoy facing 10 - 15%
hikes in health insurance every year? What would you be saying if
your personal or corporate income tax went up that percentage each
year?

You'd be screaming your head off and yet Republicans don't see it as
an unmanageable raise in taxation? What's the difference? It's all
a matter of the cost of doing busines.

Oh, and thanks for taking back all your ill-founded comments about my
lack of perspective. You did, didn't you?

On 11/19/09 10:34 PM, Lu Powell wrote:


Life is way too short to abide the fools of this forum who brand
independent thinkers and conservatives as less than human. Their
snobbery and false superiority is sickening. And since life is too
precious to spend it in further negativity, I'm done with rec.boats. I
plonked my self from this maddening forum.

Maybe I'll see you around someday.



Yeah, right, with a new handle...maybe flajim will loan you one of his.


--
If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting
your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because,
well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I
don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As
always, have a nice, simple-minded day.

Frogwatch wrote:
People like jps need to lose their jobs for awhile to get some sense
of reality. They will realize the awful truth that they truly are
superfluous population and nobody really cares about their fate. She
is correct, us capitalists truly have no need for people like her.
Once you are unemployed, you become invisible and part of "The
Problem".

Unfortunately, this is true. It might get around to him. But once
invisible, they will find Obama will not pay for their gas or mortgage.
A wakeup call for those that are stupid enough to believe in
Obamanation and statism.