Emergency room fatalities 80% higher for uninsured
 

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:43:18 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:12:38 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

The US could institute the most socialized health care system in the
world and it would not prevent injuries inflicted by one person on
another, not would it change the survival rate. There is only so much a
Doctor can do to save a life.

It's selective editing on the Assistant Paste Eater's part.

Trauma treatment does not rely on "insurance" for treatment. ER
Trauma centers only treat and stabilize. Once the patient is stable
enough to further testing and treatment, they are moved to the
appropriate facility or in-hospital ward.

What happens at that point may be due to insurance, but the initial ER
treatment has nothing to do with stabilization and life saving.

DILDO:

Please pay attention. Among the things that happen is that people
with serious injuries go to the wrong hospitals and aren't admitted
because they don't have insurance.

If all were insured, the instances where people went to the nearest ER
wouldn't have an impact on their survival rate.

Secondly, even if they do go to the ER with life threatening
circumstances, they may have other uknown medical conditions that are
unrelated to the visit but impact the outcome. A situation brought on
by the fact that they haven't been seen regularly by a primary care
physician

Hello? Are you listening?

What should we call your faction? DDD for deaf dumb and blind?

Emergency room fatalities 80% higher for uninsured
 

jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:43:18 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:12:38 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

The US could institute the most socialized health care system in the
world and it would not prevent injuries inflicted by one person on
another, not would it change the survival rate. There is only so much a
Doctor can do to save a life.
It's selective editing on the Assistant Paste Eater's part.

Trauma treatment does not rely on "insurance" for treatment. ER
Trauma centers only treat and stabilize. Once the patient is stable
enough to further testing and treatment, they are moved to the
appropriate facility or in-hospital ward.

What happens at that point may be due to insurance, but the initial ER
treatment has nothing to do with stabilization and life saving.

DILDO:

Please pay attention. Among the things that happen is that people
with serious injuries go to the wrong hospitals and aren't admitted
because they don't have insurance.

If all were insured, the instances where people went to the nearest ER
wouldn't have an impact on their survival rate.

Secondly, even if they do go to the ER with life threatening
circumstances, they may have other uknown medical conditions that are
unrelated to the visit but impact the outcome. A situation brought on
by the fact that they haven't been seen regularly by a primary care
physician

Hello? Are you listening?

What should we call your faction? DDD for deaf dumb and blind?

I have lived in several state and have have seen people admitted and
receive treatment at hospitals WITH NO INSURANCE. If you believe people
in need of emergency medical care are turned away from a hospital you
must not live in the United States.

Indigent people become the ward of the township/county depending on
where you live. As wards of the township/county, the government insures
they receive the proper treatment.

If you don't believe this look up the county, township or state laws on
indigent care.

You have been listening to the obamodytes too long.

Emergency room fatalities 80% higher for uninsured
 

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:35 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:43:18 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:12:38 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

The US could institute the most socialized health care system in the
world and it would not prevent injuries inflicted by one person on
another, not would it change the survival rate. There is only so much a
Doctor can do to save a life.
It's selective editing on the Assistant Paste Eater's part.

Trauma treatment does not rely on "insurance" for treatment. ER
Trauma centers only treat and stabilize. Once the patient is stable
enough to further testing and treatment, they are moved to the
appropriate facility or in-hospital ward.

What happens at that point may be due to insurance, but the initial ER
treatment has nothing to do with stabilization and life saving.

DILDO:

Please pay attention. Among the things that happen is that people
with serious injuries go to the wrong hospitals and aren't admitted
because they don't have insurance.

If all were insured, the instances where people went to the nearest ER
wouldn't have an impact on their survival rate.

Secondly, even if they do go to the ER with life threatening
circumstances, they may have other uknown medical conditions that are
unrelated to the visit but impact the outcome. A situation brought on
by the fact that they haven't been seen regularly by a primary care
physician

Hello? Are you listening?

What should we call your faction? DDD for deaf dumb and blind?

I have lived in several state and have have seen people admitted and
receive treatment at hospitals WITH NO INSURANCE. If you believe people
in need of emergency medical care are turned away from a hospital you
must not live in the United States.

Indigent people become the ward of the township/county depending on
where you live. As wards of the township/county, the government insures
they receive the proper treatment.

If you don't believe this look up the county, township or state laws on
indigent care.

You have been listening to the obamodytes too long.

There are myriad private hospitals which will not admit patients
without insurance.

There are designated hospitals in every area of the country that are
public hospitals which are mandated to take anyone, no matter the
circumstances.

You need to brush up on your vast knowledge of hospitals and admitting
practices.

Secondly, most visits to the hospital aren't by indigants. They're
working and working poor who do not have coverage.

You need to take a wake up pill or maybe smell the coffee?

Emergency room fatalities 80% higher for uninsured
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:35 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:43:18 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:12:38 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

The US could institute the most socialized health care system in the
world and it would not prevent injuries inflicted by one person on
another, not would it change the survival rate. There is only so much
a
Doctor can do to save a life.
It's selective editing on the Assistant Paste Eater's part.

Trauma treatment does not rely on "insurance" for treatment. ER
Trauma centers only treat and stabilize. Once the patient is stable
enough to further testing and treatment, they are moved to the
appropriate facility or in-hospital ward.

What happens at that point may be due to insurance, but the initial ER
treatment has nothing to do with stabilization and life saving.

DILDO:

Please pay attention. Among the things that happen is that people
with serious injuries go to the wrong hospitals and aren't admitted
because they don't have insurance.

If all were insured, the instances where people went to the nearest ER
wouldn't have an impact on their survival rate.

Secondly, even if they do go to the ER with life threatening
circumstances, they may have other uknown medical conditions that are
unrelated to the visit but impact the outcome. A situation brought on
by the fact that they haven't been seen regularly by a primary care
physician

Hello? Are you listening?

What should we call your faction? DDD for deaf dumb and blind?

I have lived in several state and have have seen people admitted and
receive treatment at hospitals WITH NO INSURANCE. If you believe people
in need of emergency medical care are turned away from a hospital you
must not live in the United States.

Indigent people become the ward of the township/county depending on
where you live. As wards of the township/county, the government insures
they receive the proper treatment.

If you don't believe this look up the county, township or state laws on
indigent care.

You have been listening to the obamodytes too long.

There are myriad private hospitals which will not admit patients
without insurance.

There are designated hospitals in every area of the country that are
public hospitals which are mandated to take anyone, no matter the
circumstances.

You need to brush up on your vast knowledge of hospitals and admitting
practices.

Secondly, most visits to the hospital aren't by indigants. They're
working and working poor who do not have coverage.

You need to take a wake up pill or maybe smell the coffee?

If they have an emergency room they will treat you insured or not. Law
requires stabilization. They will ship you off to the county hospital at
first chance, but if they refuse to treat you they will be a broke and non
accredited hospital.

Emergency room fatalities 80% higher for uninsured
 

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:18:19 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:35 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:43:18 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:12:38 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

The US could institute the most socialized health care system in the
world and it would not prevent injuries inflicted by one person on
another, not would it change the survival rate. There is only so much
a
Doctor can do to save a life.
It's selective editing on the Assistant Paste Eater's part.

Trauma treatment does not rely on "insurance" for treatment. ER
Trauma centers only treat and stabilize. Once the patient is stable
enough to further testing and treatment, they are moved to the
appropriate facility or in-hospital ward.

What happens at that point may be due to insurance, but the initial ER
treatment has nothing to do with stabilization and life saving.

DILDO:

Please pay attention. Among the things that happen is that people
with serious injuries go to the wrong hospitals and aren't admitted
because they don't have insurance.

If all were insured, the instances where people went to the nearest ER
wouldn't have an impact on their survival rate.

Secondly, even if they do go to the ER with life threatening
circumstances, they may have other uknown medical conditions that are
unrelated to the visit but impact the outcome. A situation brought on
by the fact that they haven't been seen regularly by a primary care
physician

Hello? Are you listening?

What should we call your faction? DDD for deaf dumb and blind?

I have lived in several state and have have seen people admitted and
receive treatment at hospitals WITH NO INSURANCE. If you believe people
in need of emergency medical care are turned away from a hospital you
must not live in the United States.

Indigent people become the ward of the township/county depending on
where you live. As wards of the township/county, the government insures
they receive the proper treatment.

If you don't believe this look up the county, township or state laws on
indigent care.

You have been listening to the obamodytes too long.

There are myriad private hospitals which will not admit patients
without insurance.

There are designated hospitals in every area of the country that are
public hospitals which are mandated to take anyone, no matter the
circumstances.

You need to brush up on your vast knowledge of hospitals and admitting
practices.

Secondly, most visits to the hospital aren't by indigants. They're
working and working poor who do not have coverage.

You need to take a wake up pill or maybe smell the coffee?

If they have an emergency room they will treat you insured or not. Law
requires stabilization. They will ship you off to the county hospital at
first chance, but if they refuse to treat you they will be a broke and non
accredited hospital.

Sounds like it could be a very arbitray judgement call on behalf of
the admitting staff. If the ER is flooded and at capacity, what
happens to those who wait to be treated?

Why are the compiled numbers showing the results? Is this some kind
of ruse Harvard Research is foisting on the public?

"The reason for this much higher risk of death isn't immediately
clear. The researchers point out that, while federal law requires
that emergency rooms provide care, the uninsured often have longer
waits in the ER, and sometimes have to go to various ERs to find one
that will treat them."

Is this a lie? A fabrication? A misrepresentation?

Emergency room fatalities 80% higher for uninsured
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:18:19 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:35 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:43:18 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:12:38 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

The US could institute the most socialized health care system in the
world and it would not prevent injuries inflicted by one person on
another, not would it change the survival rate. There is only so
much
a
Doctor can do to save a life.
It's selective editing on the Assistant Paste Eater's part.

Trauma treatment does not rely on "insurance" for treatment. ER
Trauma centers only treat and stabilize. Once the patient is stable
enough to further testing and treatment, they are moved to the
appropriate facility or in-hospital ward.

What happens at that point may be due to insurance, but the initial
ER
treatment has nothing to do with stabilization and life saving.

DILDO:

Please pay attention. Among the things that happen is that people
with serious injuries go to the wrong hospitals and aren't admitted
because they don't have insurance.

If all were insured, the instances where people went to the nearest ER
wouldn't have an impact on their survival rate.

Secondly, even if they do go to the ER with life threatening
circumstances, they may have other uknown medical conditions that are
unrelated to the visit but impact the outcome. A situation brought on
by the fact that they haven't been seen regularly by a primary care
physician

Hello? Are you listening?

What should we call your faction? DDD for deaf dumb and blind?

I have lived in several state and have have seen people admitted and
receive treatment at hospitals WITH NO INSURANCE. If you believe people
in need of emergency medical care are turned away from a hospital you
must not live in the United States.

Indigent people become the ward of the township/county depending on
where you live. As wards of the township/county, the government insures
they receive the proper treatment.

If you don't believe this look up the county, township or state laws on
indigent care.

You have been listening to the obamodytes too long.

There are myriad private hospitals which will not admit patients
without insurance.

There are designated hospitals in every area of the country that are
public hospitals which are mandated to take anyone, no matter the
circumstances.

You need to brush up on your vast knowledge of hospitals and admitting
practices.

Secondly, most visits to the hospital aren't by indigants. They're
working and working poor who do not have coverage.

You need to take a wake up pill or maybe smell the coffee?

If they have an emergency room they will treat you insured or not. Law
requires stabilization. They will ship you off to the county hospital at
first chance, but if they refuse to treat you they will be a broke and non
accredited hospital.

Sounds like it could be a very arbitray judgement call on behalf of
the admitting staff. If the ER is flooded and at capacity, what
happens to those who wait to be treated?

Why are the compiled numbers showing the results? Is this some kind
of ruse Harvard Research is foisting on the public?

"The reason for this much higher risk of death isn't immediately
clear. The researchers point out that, while federal law requires
that emergency rooms provide care, the uninsured often have longer
waits in the ER, and sometimes have to go to various ERs to find one
that will treat them."

Is this a lie? A fabrication? A misrepresentation?

Because lots of the uninsured come in with mortal knife or gunshot wounds.
They all get treated at emergency. Some quicker than others, as they are
making a mess on the floor.

Emergency room fatalities 80% higher for uninsured
 

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:21 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:18:19 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:35 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:43:18 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:12:38 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

The US could institute the most socialized health care system in the
world and it would not prevent injuries inflicted by one person on
another, not would it change the survival rate. There is only so
much
a
Doctor can do to save a life.
It's selective editing on the Assistant Paste Eater's part.

Trauma treatment does not rely on "insurance" for treatment. ER
Trauma centers only treat and stabilize. Once the patient is stable
enough to further testing and treatment, they are moved to the
appropriate facility or in-hospital ward.

What happens at that point may be due to insurance, but the initial
ER
treatment has nothing to do with stabilization and life saving.

DILDO:

Please pay attention. Among the things that happen is that people
with serious injuries go to the wrong hospitals and aren't admitted
because they don't have insurance.

If all were insured, the instances where people went to the nearest ER
wouldn't have an impact on their survival rate.

Secondly, even if they do go to the ER with life threatening
circumstances, they may have other uknown medical conditions that are
unrelated to the visit but impact the outcome. A situation brought on
by the fact that they haven't been seen regularly by a primary care
physician

Hello? Are you listening?

What should we call your faction? DDD for deaf dumb and blind?

I have lived in several state and have have seen people admitted and
receive treatment at hospitals WITH NO INSURANCE. If you believe people
in need of emergency medical care are turned away from a hospital you
must not live in the United States.

Indigent people become the ward of the township/county depending on
where you live. As wards of the township/county, the government insures
they receive the proper treatment.

If you don't believe this look up the county, township or state laws on
indigent care.

You have been listening to the obamodytes too long.

There are myriad private hospitals which will not admit patients
without insurance.

There are designated hospitals in every area of the country that are
public hospitals which are mandated to take anyone, no matter the
circumstances.

You need to brush up on your vast knowledge of hospitals and admitting
practices.

Secondly, most visits to the hospital aren't by indigants. They're
working and working poor who do not have coverage.

You need to take a wake up pill or maybe smell the coffee?

If they have an emergency room they will treat you insured or not. Law
requires stabilization. They will ship you off to the county hospital at
first chance, but if they refuse to treat you they will be a broke and non
accredited hospital.

Sounds like it could be a very arbitray judgement call on behalf of
the admitting staff. If the ER is flooded and at capacity, what
happens to those who wait to be treated?

Why are the compiled numbers showing the results? Is this some kind
of ruse Harvard Research is foisting on the public?

"The reason for this much higher risk of death isn't immediately
clear. The researchers point out that, while federal law requires
that emergency rooms provide care, the uninsured often have longer
waits in the ER, and sometimes have to go to various ERs to find one
that will treat them."

Is this a lie? A fabrication? A misrepresentation?

Because lots of the uninsured come in with mortal knife or gunshot wounds.
They all get treated at emergency. Some quicker than others, as they are
making a mess on the floor.

Yes, I'm sure you're right but the messy ones may not be the ones in
the most acute need.

If they all had insurance, the traffic would be more evenly dispersed
and maybe some of them would have primary care that'd keep 'em out of
the trauma centers...

Emergency room fatalities 80% higher for uninsured
 

jps wrote:

There are myriad private hospitals which will not admit patients
without insurance.

There are designated hospitals in every area of the country that are
public hospitals which are mandated to take anyone, no matter the
circumstances.

You need to brush up on your vast knowledge of hospitals and admitting
practices.

Secondly, most visits to the hospital aren't by indigants. They're
working and working poor who do not have coverage.

You need to take a wake up pill or maybe smell the coffee?

I'm sure you are wrong. Can you name any?

Rob

Emergency room fatalities 80% higher for uninsured
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:21 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:18:19 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:35 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:43:18 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:12:38 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

The US could institute the most socialized health care system in
the
world and it would not prevent injuries inflicted by one person on
another, not would it change the survival rate. There is only so
much
a
Doctor can do to save a life.
It's selective editing on the Assistant Paste Eater's part.

Trauma treatment does not rely on "insurance" for treatment. ER
Trauma centers only treat and stabilize. Once the patient is
stable
enough to further testing and treatment, they are moved to the
appropriate facility or in-hospital ward.

What happens at that point may be due to insurance, but the initial
ER
treatment has nothing to do with stabilization and life saving.

DILDO:

Please pay attention. Among the things that happen is that people
with serious injuries go to the wrong hospitals and aren't admitted
because they don't have insurance.

If all were insured, the instances where people went to the nearest
ER
wouldn't have an impact on their survival rate.

Secondly, even if they do go to the ER with life threatening
circumstances, they may have other uknown medical conditions that
are
unrelated to the visit but impact the outcome. A situation brought
on
by the fact that they haven't been seen regularly by a primary care
physician

Hello? Are you listening?

What should we call your faction? DDD for deaf dumb and blind?

I have lived in several state and have have seen people admitted and
receive treatment at hospitals WITH NO INSURANCE. If you believe
people
in need of emergency medical care are turned away from a hospital you
must not live in the United States.

Indigent people become the ward of the township/county depending on
where you live. As wards of the township/county, the government
insures
they receive the proper treatment.

If you don't believe this look up the county, township or state laws
on
indigent care.

You have been listening to the obamodytes too long.

There are myriad private hospitals which will not admit patients
without insurance.

There are designated hospitals in every area of the country that are
public hospitals which are mandated to take anyone, no matter the
circumstances.

You need to brush up on your vast knowledge of hospitals and admitting
practices.

Secondly, most visits to the hospital aren't by indigants. They're
working and working poor who do not have coverage.

You need to take a wake up pill or maybe smell the coffee?

If they have an emergency room they will treat you insured or not. Law
requires stabilization. They will ship you off to the county hospital
at
first chance, but if they refuse to treat you they will be a broke and
non
accredited hospital.

Sounds like it could be a very arbitray judgement call on behalf of
the admitting staff. If the ER is flooded and at capacity, what
happens to those who wait to be treated?

Why are the compiled numbers showing the results? Is this some kind
of ruse Harvard Research is foisting on the public?

"The reason for this much higher risk of death isn't immediately
clear. The researchers point out that, while federal law requires
that emergency rooms provide care, the uninsured often have longer
waits in the ER, and sometimes have to go to various ERs to find one
that will treat them."

Is this a lie? A fabrication? A misrepresentation?

Because lots of the uninsured come in with mortal knife or gunshot wounds.
They all get treated at emergency. Some quicker than others, as they are
making a mess on the floor.

Yes, I'm sure you're right but the messy ones may not be the ones in
the most acute need.

If they all had insurance, the traffic would be more evenly dispersed
and maybe some of them would have primary care that'd keep 'em out of
the trauma centers...

Nope, they would still be getting shot and knifed. And how many actually
do not have insurance? If you are on welfare, the state pays for your
medical costs.

Emergency room fatalities 80% higher for uninsured
 

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:49:01 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:21 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:18:19 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:35 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:43:18 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:12:38 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

The US could institute the most socialized health care system in
the
world and it would not prevent injuries inflicted by one person on
another, not would it change the survival rate. There is only so
much
a
Doctor can do to save a life.
It's selective editing on the Assistant Paste Eater's part.

Trauma treatment does not rely on "insurance" for treatment. ER
Trauma centers only treat and stabilize. Once the patient is
stable
enough to further testing and treatment, they are moved to the
appropriate facility or in-hospital ward.

What happens at that point may be due to insurance, but the initial
ER
treatment has nothing to do with stabilization and life saving.

DILDO:

Please pay attention. Among the things that happen is that people
with serious injuries go to the wrong hospitals and aren't admitted
because they don't have insurance.

If all were insured, the instances where people went to the nearest
ER
wouldn't have an impact on their survival rate.

Secondly, even if they do go to the ER with life threatening
circumstances, they may have other uknown medical conditions that
are
unrelated to the visit but impact the outcome. A situation brought
on
by the fact that they haven't been seen regularly by a primary care
physician

Hello? Are you listening?

What should we call your faction? DDD for deaf dumb and blind?

I have lived in several state and have have seen people admitted and
receive treatment at hospitals WITH NO INSURANCE. If you believe
people
in need of emergency medical care are turned away from a hospital you
must not live in the United States.

Indigent people become the ward of the township/county depending on
where you live. As wards of the township/county, the government
insures
they receive the proper treatment.

If you don't believe this look up the county, township or state laws
on
indigent care.

You have been listening to the obamodytes too long.

There are myriad private hospitals which will not admit patients
without insurance.

There are designated hospitals in every area of the country that are
public hospitals which are mandated to take anyone, no matter the
circumstances.

You need to brush up on your vast knowledge of hospitals and admitting
practices.

Secondly, most visits to the hospital aren't by indigants. They're
working and working poor who do not have coverage.

You need to take a wake up pill or maybe smell the coffee?

If they have an emergency room they will treat you insured or not. Law
requires stabilization. They will ship you off to the county hospital
at
first chance, but if they refuse to treat you they will be a broke and
non
accredited hospital.

Sounds like it could be a very arbitray judgement call on behalf of
the admitting staff. If the ER is flooded and at capacity, what
happens to those who wait to be treated?

Why are the compiled numbers showing the results? Is this some kind
of ruse Harvard Research is foisting on the public?

"The reason for this much higher risk of death isn't immediately
clear. The researchers point out that, while federal law requires
that emergency rooms provide care, the uninsured often have longer
waits in the ER, and sometimes have to go to various ERs to find one
that will treat them."

Is this a lie? A fabrication? A misrepresentation?

Because lots of the uninsured come in with mortal knife or gunshot wounds.
They all get treated at emergency. Some quicker than others, as they are
making a mess on the floor.

Yes, I'm sure you're right but the messy ones may not be the ones in
the most acute need.

If they all had insurance, the traffic would be more evenly dispersed
and maybe some of them would have primary care that'd keep 'em out of
the trauma centers...

Nope, they would still be getting shot and knifed. And how many actually
do not have insurance? If you are on welfare, the state pays for your
medical costs.

That's completely besides the point and you know it. If the same
number were shot and stabbed, whether they be perps or innocent
victims, there'd be less congestion at the county trauma centers if
insured were treated at every hospital with an ER.

Most people who go to the ER are not indigent. This has been repeated
any number of times in the stats but, evidently, your case is wearing
so thin you're having to repeat erroneous information.

Try again if you must or just watch some television. For you, it's
time better spent.