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"In Arizona's 9th Congressional District, 30 jobs have been saved or
created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending. There's one problem, though: There is no 9th Congressional District in Arizona; the state has only eight Congressional Districts There's no 86th Congressional District in Arizona either, but the government's recovery.gov Web site says $34 million in stimulus money has been spent there." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-...ory?id=9097853 Huh - how about that. Maybe the 9th and 86th Arizona districts are in Chicago - Land of Zombie Voters and Vote Early, Vote Often. |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:33:34 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: "In Arizona's 9th Congressional District, 30 jobs have been saved or created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending. There's one problem, though: There is no 9th Congressional District in Arizona; the state has only eight Congressional Districts There's no 86th Congressional District in Arizona either, but the government's recovery.gov Web site says $34 million in stimulus money has been spent there." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-...ory?id=9097853 Huh - how about that. Maybe the 9th and 86th Arizona districts are in Chicago - Land of Zombie Voters and Vote Early, Vote Often. Relying on typos to slag Obama now? This is the best you've got? |
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On 11/16/09 5:46 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:33:34 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "In Arizona's 9th Congressional District, 30 jobs have been saved or created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending. There's one problem, though: There is no 9th Congressional District in Arizona; the state has only eight Congressional Districts There's no 86th Congressional District in Arizona either, but the government's recovery.gov Web site says $34 million in stimulus money has been spent there." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-...ory?id=9097853 Huh - how about that. Maybe the 9th and 86th Arizona districts are in Chicago - Land of Zombie Voters and Vote Early, Vote Often. Relying on typos to slag Obama now? This is the best you've got? Tom's transmogrifying himself into a Palin-ite. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
A stimulus success story...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:33:34 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: "In Arizona's 9th Congressional District, 30 jobs have been saved or created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending. There's one problem, though: There is no 9th Congressional District in Arizona; the state has only eight Congressional Districts There's no 86th Congressional District in Arizona either, but the government's recovery.gov Web site says $34 million in stimulus money has been spent there." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-...ory?id=9097853 Huh - how about that. Maybe the 9th and 86th Arizona districts are in Chicago - Land of Zombie Voters and Vote Early, Vote Often. GREAT POST, TOM!!! -- John H |
A stimulus success story...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:33:34 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: "In Arizona's 9th Congressional District, 30 jobs have been saved or created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending. There's one problem, though: There is no 9th Congressional District in Arizona; the state has only eight Congressional Districts There's no 86th Congressional District in Arizona either, but the government's recovery.gov Web site says $34 million in stimulus money has been spent there." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-...ory?id=9097853 Huh - how about that. Maybe the 9th and 86th Arizona districts are in Chicago - Land of Zombie Voters and Vote Early, Vote Often. Golly gee willikers, Tom! Doncha know there are 57 states, too? (The folks can't even get their propaganda straight.) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:27:56 -0500, Just John
wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:33:34 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "In Arizona's 9th Congressional District, 30 jobs have been saved or created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending. There's one problem, though: There is no 9th Congressional District in Arizona; the state has only eight Congressional Districts There's no 86th Congressional District in Arizona either, but the government's recovery.gov Web site says $34 million in stimulus money has been spent there." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-...ory?id=9097853 Huh - how about that. Maybe the 9th and 86th Arizona districts are in Chicago - Land of Zombie Voters and Vote Early, Vote Often. GREAT POST, TOM!!! Heh - my good buddy who I've talked about before (he owns a high tech machine shop - wire forming and machining exotic metals and the like) received $110,000 in "stimulus" funds - theoretically that is. He actually got $50K, but for some reason it was listed at $110K. Took him three weeks to straighten that out. Then he had to account for the "jobs saved or created" which was a bit of a problem because he had to lay off one machinist even with the stimulus funds. Then, as fate would have it, he got another contract outside the stimulus funds he recieved so he had to hire two more machinists and rehire the laid off machinist (who was out two weeks). So far, he's had his secretary spend 21 hours working with the report he's supposed to file including working with our brilliant Senator Dodd's office and his Congresscritter who "suggested" a total of five jobs "saved or created" when even they couldn't figure out what he should report. It's a freakin' nightmare. |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:35:50 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:27:56 -0500, Just John wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:33:34 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "In Arizona's 9th Congressional District, 30 jobs have been saved or created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending. There's one problem, though: There is no 9th Congressional District in Arizona; the state has only eight Congressional Districts There's no 86th Congressional District in Arizona either, but the government's recovery.gov Web site says $34 million in stimulus money has been spent there." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-...ory?id=9097853 Huh - how about that. Maybe the 9th and 86th Arizona districts are in Chicago - Land of Zombie Voters and Vote Early, Vote Often. GREAT POST, TOM!!! Heh - my good buddy who I've talked about before (he owns a high tech machine shop - wire forming and machining exotic metals and the like) received $110,000 in "stimulus" funds - theoretically that is. He actually got $50K, but for some reason it was listed at $110K. Took him three weeks to straighten that out. Then he had to account for the "jobs saved or created" which was a bit of a problem because he had to lay off one machinist even with the stimulus funds. Then, as fate would have it, he got another contract outside the stimulus funds he recieved so he had to hire two more machinists and rehire the laid off machinist (who was out two weeks). So far, he's had his secretary spend 21 hours working with the report he's supposed to file including working with our brilliant Senator Dodd's office and his Congresscritter who "suggested" a total of five jobs "saved or created" when even they couldn't figure out what he should report. It's a freakin' nightmare. I'll bet it is. A nightmare to not have a swashbuckling idiot running the country into the ground. A nightmare for the unworthy opposition. Compare anything this administration is doing and I'll guarantee we can equate with something Bush did that makes it look benign. But you keep digging... |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:21:34 -0600, wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:33:34 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "In Arizona's 9th Congressional District, 30 jobs have been saved or created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending. There's one problem, though: There is no 9th Congressional District in Arizona; the state has only eight Congressional Districts There's no 86th Congressional District in Arizona either, but the government's recovery.gov Web site says $34 million in stimulus money has been spent there." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-...ory?id=9097853 Huh - how about that. Maybe the 9th and 86th Arizona districts are in Chicago - Land of Zombie Voters and Vote Early, Vote Often. Golly gee willikers, Tom! Doncha know there are 57 states, too? (The folks can't even get their propaganda straight.) Well I'm sure the Paste Eaters will have some kind of defense. It's funny in a strange other worldly way. We just got rid of a President who, it could be fairly said, did ok but wasn't the best President we've ever had only to replace him with a complete and total incompetent. Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. It could not be "fairly said, did ok." He was a disaster domestically and internationally. If you're going to make the argument that there are problems with the stim package, that's fine, but to claim there's a comparison between a president who ruined the economy, gutted social welfare programs, helped his cronies to the troff, and started a war of choice that killed 5000 and maimed 30,000 of our soldiers, that completely destroys your argument. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:21:34 -0600, wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:33:34 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "In Arizona's 9th Congressional District, 30 jobs have been saved or created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending. There's one problem, though: There is no 9th Congressional District in Arizona; the state has only eight Congressional Districts There's no 86th Congressional District in Arizona either, but the government's recovery.gov Web site says $34 million in stimulus money has been spent there." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-...ory?id=9097853 Huh - how about that. Maybe the 9th and 86th Arizona districts are in Chicago - Land of Zombie Voters and Vote Early, Vote Often. Golly gee willikers, Tom! Doncha know there are 57 states, too? (The folks can't even get their propaganda straight.) Well I'm sure the Paste Eaters will have some kind of defense. It's funny in a strange other worldly way. We just got rid of a President who, it could be fairly said, did ok but wasn't the best President we've ever had only to replace him with a complete and total incompetent. Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. You have just completely destroyed any credibility you may have had with thinking beings. Your brain has become clouded with some kind of jello, the synapses are no longer firing in a rational order. Maybe you need to go fishing or read a book. Maybe Dickens. |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:32:24 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:59:09 -0600, wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). Heh - wouldn't surprise me at all. Seems like his entire life has been congratulations for things he hasn't done yet. You know that's not true but the words dribble out of your mouth in an uncontrolled way. WTF happened to you? |
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wrote in message
... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:04:40 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote:
It could not be "fairly said, did ok." He was a disaster domestically and internationally. If you're going to make the argument that there are problems with the stim package, that's fine, but to claim there's a comparison between a president who ruined the economy, gutted social welfare programs, helped his cronies to the troff, and started a war of choice that killed 5000 and maimed 30,000 of our soldiers, that completely destroys your argument. Ah, come on, Bush did a great job. Just look what he has done for the Republican Party. We won't have to deal with a Republican President for at least a generation. |
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On 11/16/09 11:01 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:35:50 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:27:56 -0500, Just John wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:33:34 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "In Arizona's 9th Congressional District, 30 jobs have been saved or created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending. There's one problem, though: There is no 9th Congressional District in Arizona; the state has only eight Congressional Districts There's no 86th Congressional District in Arizona either, but the government's recovery.gov Web site says $34 million in stimulus money has been spent there." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-...ory?id=9097853 Huh - how about that. Maybe the 9th and 86th Arizona districts are in Chicago - Land of Zombie Voters and Vote Early, Vote Often. GREAT POST, TOM!!! Heh - my good buddy who I've talked about before (he owns a high tech machine shop - wire forming and machining exotic metals and the like) received $110,000 in "stimulus" funds - theoretically that is. He actually got $50K, but for some reason it was listed at $110K. Took him three weeks to straighten that out. Then he had to account for the "jobs saved or created" which was a bit of a problem because he had to lay off one machinist even with the stimulus funds. Then, as fate would have it, he got another contract outside the stimulus funds he recieved so he had to hire two more machinists and rehire the laid off machinist (who was out two weeks). So far, he's had his secretary spend 21 hours working with the report he's supposed to file including working with our brilliant Senator Dodd's office and his Congresscritter who "suggested" a total of five jobs "saved or created" when even they couldn't figure out what he should report. It's a freakin' nightmare. I'll bet it is. A nightmare to not have a swashbuckling idiot running the country into the ground. A nightmare for the unworthy opposition. Compare anything this administration is doing and I'll guarantee we can equate with something Bush did that makes it look benign. But you keep digging... SW Tom's good buddy is another figment of his bipolar imagination. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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On 11/17/09 1:21 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:32:24 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:59:09 -0600, wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). Heh - wouldn't surprise me at all. Seems like his entire life has been congratulations for things he hasn't done yet. You know that's not true but the words dribble out of your mouth in an uncontrolled way. WTF happened to you? Bipolar... -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
Heh - my good buddy who I've talked about before (he owns a high tech machine shop - wire forming and machining exotic metals and the like) received $110,000 in "stimulus" funds - theoretically that is. He actually got $50K, but for some reason it was listed at $110K. Took him three weeks to straighten that out. Then he had to account for the "jobs saved or created" which was a bit of a problem because he had to lay off one machinist even with the stimulus funds. Then, as fate would have it, he got another contract outside the stimulus funds he recieved so he had to hire two more machinists and rehire the laid off machinist (who was out two weeks). So far, he's had his secretary spend 21 hours working with the report he's supposed to file including working with our brilliant Senator Dodd's office and his Congresscritter who "suggested" a total of five jobs "saved or created" when even they couldn't figure out what he should report. It's a freakin' nightmare. How about if he paid the money back? Would that work? |
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H the K wrote:
SW Tom's good buddy is another figment of his bipolar imagination. From one whose whole life story is fiction. Although, maybe, his dad did some of the things sonny brags about. |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. The were probably briefed on protocol and acted accordingly. The current dip hasn't a clue. |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:16 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. I'm familiar with the Brezhnev-Connors hug. It's one thing to comport oneself with appropriate diginity and with respect for others, it's another to act obsequiously. It's not befitting a president of the United States and leader of the free world, even if the President deems it to be a necessary symbolic gesture. It's a symbol rooted in a naive ideology. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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"achmed" wrote in message ...
nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. The were probably briefed on protocol and acted accordingly. The current dip hasn't a clue. Hmmm... the protocol of not bowing? They both did. You really need to stop watching Fox news. They lie over and over... -- Nom=de=Plume |
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wrote in message
... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:16 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. I'm familiar with the Brezhnev-Connors hug. It's one thing to comport oneself with appropriate diginity and with respect for others, it's another to act obsequiously. It's not befitting a president of the United States and leader of the free world, even if the President deems it to be a necessary symbolic gesture. It's a symbol rooted in a naive ideology. Both bowed... Eisenhower to de Gaulle???? Can you say right wing meltdown if that happened now... http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...image/42148032 Nixon bowed to Hirohito (in the US I believe) and to the Pope, not to mention holding hands and kissing the Saudi monarch. http://www.democraticunderground.com...esg_id=7031165 Quite some symbolism... -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:52:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "achmed" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. The were probably briefed on protocol and acted accordingly. The current dip hasn't a clue. Hmmm... the protocol of not bowing? They both did. You really need to stop watching Fox news. They lie over and over... I was watching them last night. To their credit, they had a guy on who was arguing on behalf of common sense. The only problem was that Hannity had at least one and maybe two other Fox koolaid drinkers on the program. So it was either two or three against one in a semi-shoutfest. |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:56:18 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:16 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. I'm familiar with the Brezhnev-Connors hug. It's one thing to comport oneself with appropriate diginity and with respect for others, it's another to act obsequiously. It's not befitting a president of the United States and leader of the free world, even if the President deems it to be a necessary symbolic gesture. It's a symbol rooted in a naive ideology. Both bowed... Eisenhower to de Gaulle???? Can you say right wing meltdown if that happened now... http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...image/42148032 Nixon bowed to Hirohito (in the US I believe) and to the Pope, not to mention holding hands and kissing the Saudi monarch. http://www.democraticunderground.com...esg_id=7031165 Quite some symbolism... Anything will do for carping. Bush starts two wars and they cheer with pom poms flying. Obama bows and it's an international incident. |
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"jps" wrote in message
... On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:52:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "achmed" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. The were probably briefed on protocol and acted accordingly. The current dip hasn't a clue. Hmmm... the protocol of not bowing? They both did. You really need to stop watching Fox news. They lie over and over... I was watching them last night. To their credit, they had a guy on who was arguing on behalf of common sense. The only problem was that Hannity had at least one and maybe two other Fox koolaid drinkers on the program. So it was either two or three against one in a semi-shoutfest. I'm not a big fan of a president bowing, but if someone wants to criticize Obama, there are many more things of greater import than that. For example, I think he should be more forceful re the healthcare debate. Perhaps he's done this behind closed doors, but it needs to be in public. He needs to stop dithering wrt gays in the military. We're losing good people for no earthly reason. He needs to continue to defend (and loudly) a woman's right to choose to terminate a pregancy. The bill that passed in the House is an abomination, and it is an attempt to do an end run around the legality of the procedure. He needs to unleash Holder to fully investigate wrong-doing wrt to torture. He needs to be more forceful wrt to environmental issues, e.g., cleaning up the Hudson river (just read an article about it in Harpers). I'm sure there are other things, but bowing is just a right wing talking point and has no substance. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:22:19 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:52:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "achmed" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. The were probably briefed on protocol and acted accordingly. The current dip hasn't a clue. Hmmm... the protocol of not bowing? They both did. You really need to stop watching Fox news. They lie over and over... I was watching them last night. To their credit, they had a guy on who was arguing on behalf of common sense. The only problem was that Hannity had at least one and maybe two other Fox koolaid drinkers on the program. So it was either two or three against one in a semi-shoutfest. I'm not a big fan of a president bowing, but if someone wants to criticize Obama, there are many more things of greater import than that. For example, I think he should be more forceful re the healthcare debate. Perhaps he's done this behind closed doors, but it needs to be in public. He needs to stop dithering wrt gays in the military. We're losing good people for no earthly reason. He needs to continue to defend (and loudly) a woman's right to choose to terminate a pregancy. The bill that passed in the House is an abomination, and it is an attempt to do an end run around the legality of the procedure. He needs to unleash Holder to fully investigate wrong-doing wrt to torture. He needs to be more forceful wrt to environmental issues, e.g., cleaning up the Hudson river (just read an article about it in Harpers). I'm sure there are other things, but bowing is just a right wing talking point and has no substance. Totally agree. He's very deliberate in his choices, adding inertia and preventing momentum. Add that he's working on a huge inititive in health care and it's a risky combo. |
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"jps" wrote in message
... On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:56:18 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:16 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. I'm familiar with the Brezhnev-Connors hug. It's one thing to comport oneself with appropriate diginity and with respect for others, it's another to act obsequiously. It's not befitting a president of the United States and leader of the free world, even if the President deems it to be a necessary symbolic gesture. It's a symbol rooted in a naive ideology. Both bowed... Eisenhower to de Gaulle???? Can you say right wing meltdown if that happened now... http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...image/42148032 Nixon bowed to Hirohito (in the US I believe) and to the Pope, not to mention holding hands and kissing the Saudi monarch. http://www.democraticunderground.com...esg_id=7031165 Quite some symbolism... Anything will do for carping. Bush starts two wars and they cheer with pom poms flying. Obama bows and it's an international incident. It was almost as bad as when he and Michelle fist-bumped. I was getting my hair done earlier in the year, right after Michelle started the organic garden. Some ditz was sooooo upset about it, claiming it was "demeaning" to the office (or to the White House... I couldn't figure out which). She went on and on about it. Finally, I had enough, told her she was an idiot, and that the original "victory" gardens saved money and food for our troops in WWII. They have a long tradition. Boy did it get quiet in there. :) -- Nom=de=Plume |
A stimulus success story...
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says... "jps" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:56:18 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:16 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. I'm familiar with the Brezhnev-Connors hug. It's one thing to comport oneself with appropriate diginity and with respect for others, it's another to act obsequiously. It's not befitting a president of the United States and leader of the free world, even if the President deems it to be a necessary symbolic gesture. It's a symbol rooted in a naive ideology. Both bowed... Eisenhower to de Gaulle???? Can you say right wing meltdown if that happened now... http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...image/42148032 Nixon bowed to Hirohito (in the US I believe) and to the Pope, not to mention holding hands and kissing the Saudi monarch. http://www.democraticunderground.com...esg_id=7031165 Quite some symbolism... Anything will do for carping. Bush starts two wars and they cheer with pom poms flying. Obama bows and it's an international incident. It was almost as bad as when he and Michelle fist-bumped. I was getting my hair done earlier in the year, right after Michelle started the organic garden. Some ditz was sooooo upset about it, claiming it was "demeaning" to the office (or to the White House... I couldn't figure out which). She went on and on about it. Finally, I had enough, told her she was an idiot, and that the original "victory" gardens saved money and food for our troops in WWII. They have a long tradition. Boy did it get quiet in there. :) ANYTHING to say something negative about the president and his wife. -- WAFA the newsgroup liar free! |
A stimulus success story...
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:46:47 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:56:18 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:16 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message om... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. I'm familiar with the Brezhnev-Connors hug. It's one thing to comport oneself with appropriate diginity and with respect for others, it's another to act obsequiously. It's not befitting a president of the United States and leader of the free world, even if the President deems it to be a necessary symbolic gesture. It's a symbol rooted in a naive ideology. Both bowed... Eisenhower to de Gaulle???? Can you say right wing meltdown if that happened now... http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...image/42148032 Nixon bowed to Hirohito (in the US I believe) and to the Pope, not to mention holding hands and kissing the Saudi monarch. http://www.democraticunderground.com...esg_id=7031165 Quite some symbolism... Anything will do for carping. Bush starts two wars and they cheer with pom poms flying. Obama bows and it's an international incident. It was almost as bad as when he and Michelle fist-bumped. I was getting my hair done earlier in the year, right after Michelle started the organic garden. Some ditz was sooooo upset about it, claiming it was "demeaning" to the office (or to the White House... I couldn't figure out which). She went on and on about it. Finally, I had enough, told her she was an idiot, and that the original "victory" gardens saved money and food for our troops in WWII. They have a long tradition. Boy did it get quiet in there. :) Cool that you spoke up. It's always interesting to be an observer where people think they're safe to spout off. |
A stimulus success story...
"jps" wrote in message
... On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:46:47 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:56:18 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:16 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message news:ba74g5dl20j0hqnuddmtd1umkkpuruig3l@4ax. com... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. I'm familiar with the Brezhnev-Connors hug. It's one thing to comport oneself with appropriate diginity and with respect for others, it's another to act obsequiously. It's not befitting a president of the United States and leader of the free world, even if the President deems it to be a necessary symbolic gesture. It's a symbol rooted in a naive ideology. Both bowed... Eisenhower to de Gaulle???? Can you say right wing meltdown if that happened now... http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...image/42148032 Nixon bowed to Hirohito (in the US I believe) and to the Pope, not to mention holding hands and kissing the Saudi monarch. http://www.democraticunderground.com...esg_id=7031165 Quite some symbolism... Anything will do for carping. Bush starts two wars and they cheer with pom poms flying. Obama bows and it's an international incident. It was almost as bad as when he and Michelle fist-bumped. I was getting my hair done earlier in the year, right after Michelle started the organic garden. Some ditz was sooooo upset about it, claiming it was "demeaning" to the office (or to the White House... I couldn't figure out which). She went on and on about it. Finally, I had enough, told her she was an idiot, and that the original "victory" gardens saved money and food for our troops in WWII. They have a long tradition. Boy did it get quiet in there. :) Cool that you spoke up. It's always interesting to be an observer where people think they're safe to spout off. I was wondering if she was going to slash my tires... but, Charles (guy who does my hair) said "kudos, she's a bitch" in private to me. -- Nom=de=Plume |
A stimulus success story...
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:44:58 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:46:47 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:56:18 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message om... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:16 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message news:ba74g5dl20j0hqnuddmtd1umkkpuruig3l@4ax .com... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. I'm familiar with the Brezhnev-Connors hug. It's one thing to comport oneself with appropriate diginity and with respect for others, it's another to act obsequiously. It's not befitting a president of the United States and leader of the free world, even if the President deems it to be a necessary symbolic gesture. It's a symbol rooted in a naive ideology. Both bowed... Eisenhower to de Gaulle???? Can you say right wing meltdown if that happened now... http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...image/42148032 Nixon bowed to Hirohito (in the US I believe) and to the Pope, not to mention holding hands and kissing the Saudi monarch. http://www.democraticunderground.com...esg_id=7031165 Quite some symbolism... Anything will do for carping. Bush starts two wars and they cheer with pom poms flying. Obama bows and it's an international incident. It was almost as bad as when he and Michelle fist-bumped. I was getting my hair done earlier in the year, right after Michelle started the organic garden. Some ditz was sooooo upset about it, claiming it was "demeaning" to the office (or to the White House... I couldn't figure out which). She went on and on about it. Finally, I had enough, told her she was an idiot, and that the original "victory" gardens saved money and food for our troops in WWII. They have a long tradition. Boy did it get quiet in there. :) Cool that you spoke up. It's always interesting to be an observer where people think they're safe to spout off. I was wondering if she was going to slash my tires... but, Charles (guy who does my hair) said "kudos, she's a bitch" in private to me. Salon isn't the best environment to share confidences. If she was projecting her voice, she deserved whatever she got. Expect they take care not to book you on the same day. |
A stimulus success story...
"jps" wrote in message
... On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:44:58 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:46:47 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message m... On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:56:18 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message news:04b5g5l8a4k9a2of8m7rbsnfnhlul83tu1@4ax. com... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:16 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message news:ba74g5dl20j0hqnuddmtd1umkkpuruig3l@4a x.com... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. I'm familiar with the Brezhnev-Connors hug. It's one thing to comport oneself with appropriate diginity and with respect for others, it's another to act obsequiously. It's not befitting a president of the United States and leader of the free world, even if the President deems it to be a necessary symbolic gesture. It's a symbol rooted in a naive ideology. Both bowed... Eisenhower to de Gaulle???? Can you say right wing meltdown if that happened now... http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...image/42148032 Nixon bowed to Hirohito (in the US I believe) and to the Pope, not to mention holding hands and kissing the Saudi monarch. http://www.democraticunderground.com...esg_id=7031165 Quite some symbolism... Anything will do for carping. Bush starts two wars and they cheer with pom poms flying. Obama bows and it's an international incident. It was almost as bad as when he and Michelle fist-bumped. I was getting my hair done earlier in the year, right after Michelle started the organic garden. Some ditz was sooooo upset about it, claiming it was "demeaning" to the office (or to the White House... I couldn't figure out which). She went on and on about it. Finally, I had enough, told her she was an idiot, and that the original "victory" gardens saved money and food for our troops in WWII. They have a long tradition. Boy did it get quiet in there. :) Cool that you spoke up. It's always interesting to be an observer where people think they're safe to spout off. I was wondering if she was going to slash my tires... but, Charles (guy who does my hair) said "kudos, she's a bitch" in private to me. Salon isn't the best environment to share confidences. If she was projecting her voice, she deserved whatever she got. Expect they take care not to book you on the same day. Oh I don't know about the latter... they're pretty catty in there... probably right though, it's a money thing of course. I don't go that often though. -- Nom=de=Plume |
A stimulus success story...
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:56:18 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:16 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. I'm familiar with the Brezhnev-Connors hug. It's one thing to comport oneself with appropriate diginity and with respect for others, it's another to act obsequiously. It's not befitting a president of the United States and leader of the free world, even if the President deems it to be a necessary symbolic gesture. It's a symbol rooted in a naive ideology. Both bowed... Eisenhower to de Gaulle???? Can you say right wing meltdown if that happened now... http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...image/42148032 Nixon bowed to Hirohito (in the US I believe) and to the Pope, not to mention holding hands and kissing the Saudi monarch. http://www.democraticunderground.com...esg_id=7031165 Quite some symbolism... Am I impressed with Eisenhower or Nixon? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
A stimulus success story...
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:56:18 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:16 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. I'm familiar with the Brezhnev-Connors hug. It's one thing to comport oneself with appropriate diginity and with respect for others, it's another to act obsequiously. It's not befitting a president of the United States and leader of the free world, even if the President deems it to be a necessary symbolic gesture. It's a symbol rooted in a naive ideology. Both bowed... Eisenhower to de Gaulle???? Can you say right wing meltdown if that happened now... http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...image/42148032 Nixon bowed to Hirohito (in the US I believe) and to the Pope, not to mention holding hands and kissing the Saudi monarch. http://www.democraticunderground.com...esg_id=7031165 Quite some symbolism... BTW, Em, I was speaking of obsequiosness, not an informal bow. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:15:31 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:01:07 -0600, wrote: BTW, Em, I was speaking of obsequiosness, not an informal bow. Guess he's not god like - when he's obsequious anyway. Pretty much like he's a shrimp when he's not a big oaf. And he's senile when he's not juvenile. I think I get it. --Vic It's entirely possible that when I introduce the term "imputation," fallacy will follow fallacy to impute upon me what is considered to be the onerous characteristics of vile conservatism. So, I'll also, with complete lack of respect for the doctrine of"'eschew obfuscation," toss out the term "enfilade" to describe that sad march of fallacies, and I'll wed it to the adjective "mindless." You don't get it, Vic. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:15:31 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:01:07 -0600, wrote: BTW, Em, I was speaking of obsequiosness, not an informal bow. Guess he's not god like - when he's obsequious anyway. Pretty much like he's a shrimp when he's not a big oaf. And he's senile when he's not juvenile. I think I get it. --Vic Big words are always better if they make the writer sound smart. Unless they serve to garble the writer's meaning, cloud the intended message and confuse or mislead the reader. Hope you're all feeling supercalifragalisticexpealidocious. |
A stimulus success story...
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:41:22 -0800, jps wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:15:31 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:01:07 -0600, wrote: BTW, Em, I was speaking of obsequiosness, not an informal bow. Guess he's not god like - when he's obsequious anyway. Pretty much like he's a shrimp when he's not a big oaf. And he's senile when he's not juvenile. I think I get it. --Vic Big words are always better if they make the writer sound smart. Unless they serve to garble the writer's meaning, cloud the intended message and confuse or mislead the reader. Big or little, they have meaning. Obsequious is big only in syllables. I prefer beggarly bugger. Hope you're all feeling supercalifragalisticexpealidocious. Mary Poppins. Never could get through that. I got broke in on antidisestablismentariaism. Then I quit. --Vic. |
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... On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:56:18 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:16 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:55 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: snipped for brevity Talk about Peter Principle - President Obama has created a whole new category of incompetence - a Super Peter Principle. Now there's one he should take a bow for... Speaking of gratuitous genuflection, I've heard through the grapevine that the President is unofficially rehearsing for what he expects to receive from the Queen of England in an invitation to be knighted, with the understanding that he will invariably earn the honor in the future (a kind of 'ROI'al investment). I guess you guys never heard of Eisenhower or Nixon bowing. I'm familiar with the Brezhnev-Connors hug. It's one thing to comport oneself with appropriate diginity and with respect for others, it's another to act obsequiously. It's not befitting a president of the United States and leader of the free world, even if the President deems it to be a necessary symbolic gesture. It's a symbol rooted in a naive ideology. Both bowed... Eisenhower to de Gaulle???? Can you say right wing meltdown if that happened now... http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...image/42148032 Nixon bowed to Hirohito (in the US I believe) and to the Pope, not to mention holding hands and kissing the Saudi monarch. http://www.democraticunderground.com...esg_id=7031165 Quite some symbolism... Am I impressed with Eisenhower or Nixon? That's really not the question is it. The discussion was precedence and protocol. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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