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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:18 -0800, jps wrote:
If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. Very true. I sat in an air conditioned electronics shop and fixed transport airplane radars. My brother spent 2 tours in Nam as a Seabee. Lots of agent Orange streams that he got in to build bridges, etc. He has several health problems. He deserves the medical care. Me, the closest I got to injury was a ricochet at the range one year during annual qualifying and getting a major zap by a radar power supply. Bad test lead, and I flew about 20' backwards. Could have been bad, just hurt for a couple days. If I gotten a major injury, I would expect them to take care of me. I am a Viet Nam era vet and I think those who got injured or served 20 years deserve fine medical care. The rest of us are not owed lifetime medical. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Nov 11, 12:19*am, "Bill McKee" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. *They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service *And they do take care of those with service connected problems. *My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. *Good care also. My dad had his hip replaced and through the VA. he had a marvelous job none and the whole bill came out to less than $600.00. Surgery and 4 days in the Hospital. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
jps wrote:
If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. I am tired of hear that people have died because they are not recieving health care. In every city in this country, a person in need of health care can recieve health equal to anyone else. If they don't receive the attention they needed they have not sought out the treatment. Since this country was founded, Indigents automatically became the ward of the government and were provided for. Over the years the concept of how to provide this care has changed, but today ANYONE can go to a hospital and recieve the best care available whether they pay for it or not. I have never seen a patients hospital chart that said "indigent provide reduced care". |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. You'll notice that JPS did not respond to the point that the means-testing merely needs to be adjusted to accomodate veterans of lesser means (those that are "unable" to afford health insurance). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:29:50 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:18 -0800, jps wrote: If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? The use of 'vets' is a ploy grip the hearts of folks who know no better. Why should a couple years in the military, all that is needed to be called a 'vet', entitle one to anything, unless there is a service connected health problem. Another ploy by liberals taking us down the yellow brick road to socialism. You're right, John. The entire argument of the article is a strawman. The criteria of eligibility can be changed to broaden the scope of veteran participation (not that it should be necessarily). The need for health care reform based on veteran ineligibility is ancillary. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
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says... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:18 -0800, jps wrote: If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? The use of 'vets' is a ploy grip the hearts of folks who know no better. Why should a couple years in the military, all that is needed to be called a 'vet', entitle one to anything, unless there is a service connected health problem. Another ploy by liberals taking us down the yellow brick road to socialism. I get tired of your bull**** "socialism" ****. Goodbye. -- WAFA the newsgroup liar free! |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On 11/11/09 1:53 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
More successful destruction of the group by Harry. Oh well, I guess Harry wins for now... Imagine his glee at the chaos he causes... You certainly are obsessed about me, s.f.b. Seems like at least every other post from you mentions me in some way. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
I am Tosk wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:18 -0800, jps wrote: If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? The use of 'vets' is a ploy grip the hearts of folks who know no better. Why should a couple years in the military, all that is needed to be called a 'vet', entitle one to anything, unless there is a service connected health problem. Another ploy by liberals taking us down the yellow brick road to socialism. I get tired of your bull**** "socialism" ****. Goodbye. More successful destruction of the group by Harry. Oh well, I guess Harry wins for now... Imagine his glee at the chaos he causes... Not really. That was just Loogie waving the white flag. Harry don't want him. And it's a struggle for us to tolerate him. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message
... jps wrote: If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. I am tired of hear that people have died because they are not recieving health care. In every city in this country, a person in need of health care can recieve health equal to anyone else. If they don't receive the attention they needed they have not sought out the treatment. Since this country was founded, Indigents automatically became the ward of the government and were provided for. Over the years the concept of how to provide this care has changed, but today ANYONE can go to a hospital and recieve the best care available whether they pay for it or not. I have never seen a patients hospital chart that said "indigent provide reduced care". Nope. You don't know much about the situation. They show up in ERs with really serious conditions that didn't have to be serious if they had regular, early care. They die. That's the problem. -- Nom=de=Plume |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
In article ,
says... I am Tosk wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:18 -0800, jps wrote: If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? The use of 'vets' is a ploy grip the hearts of folks who know no better. Why should a couple years in the military, all that is needed to be called a 'vet', entitle one to anything, unless there is a service connected health problem. Another ploy by liberals taking us down the yellow brick road to socialism. I get tired of your bull**** "socialism" ****. Goodbye. More successful destruction of the group by Harry. Oh well, I guess Harry wins for now... Imagine his glee at the chaos he causes... Not really. That was just Loogie waving the white flag. Harry don't want him. And it's a struggle for us to tolerate him. Good bye..... -- WAFA the newsgroup liar free! |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"H the K" wrote in message m... On 11/11/09 1:53 PM, I am Tosk wrote: More successful destruction of the group by Harry. Oh well, I guess Harry wins for now... Imagine his glee at the chaos he causes... You certainly are obsessed about me, s.f.b. Seems like at least every other post from you mentions me in some way. -- If I was The Freak, I'd move over to that other site of his and stay there. Six months should teach us a lesson. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"NowNow" wrote in message ... In article , says... I am Tosk wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:18 -0800, jps wrote: If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? The use of 'vets' is a ploy grip the hearts of folks who know no better. Why should a couple years in the military, all that is needed to be called a 'vet', entitle one to anything, unless there is a service connected health problem. Another ploy by liberals taking us down the yellow brick road to socialism. I get tired of your bull**** "socialism" ****. Goodbye. More successful destruction of the group by Harry. Oh well, I guess Harry wins for now... Imagine his glee at the chaos he causes... Not really. That was just Loogie waving the white flag. Harry don't want him. And it's a struggle for us to tolerate him. Good bye..... -- Nice friends you have there Kevin. Right from the Lt Colonel down to the dumbest swabbie in Florida. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:21:22 -0500, NowNow wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:18 -0800, jps wrote: If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? The use of 'vets' is a ploy grip the hearts of folks who know no better. Why should a couple years in the military, all that is needed to be called a 'vet', entitle one to anything, unless there is a service connected health problem. Another ploy by liberals taking us down the yellow brick road to socialism. I get tired of your bull**** "socialism" ****. Goodbye. I'm tired of the bull**** socialism **** also. I wish the friggin' liberals would stop with it. It hasn't worked anywhere yet. -- John H |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:53:18 -0800, I am Tosk
wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:18 -0800, jps wrote: If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? The use of 'vets' is a ploy grip the hearts of folks who know no better. Why should a couple years in the military, all that is needed to be called a 'vet', entitle one to anything, unless there is a service connected health problem. Another ploy by liberals taking us down the yellow brick road to socialism. I get tired of your bull**** "socialism" ****. Goodbye. More successful destruction of the group by Harry. Oh well, I guess Harry wins for now... Imagine his glee at the chaos he causes... What did HK have to do with Loogy's comment? ****, quit talking about him. -- John H |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
In article ,
says... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:21:22 -0500, NowNow wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:18 -0800, jps wrote: If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? The use of 'vets' is a ploy grip the hearts of folks who know no better. Why should a couple years in the military, all that is needed to be called a 'vet', entitle one to anything, unless there is a service connected health problem. Another ploy by liberals taking us down the yellow brick road to socialism. I get tired of your bull**** "socialism" ****. Goodbye. I'm tired of the bull**** socialism **** also. I wish the friggin' liberals would stop with it. It hasn't worked anywhere yet. Neither has Republican Nazi bull****. Here, learn something: http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...gressives-and- democrats-really-socialists/question-603437/ -- WAFA the newsgroup liar free! |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"John H." wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:53:18 -0800, I am Tosk wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:18 -0800, jps wrote: If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? The use of 'vets' is a ploy grip the hearts of folks who know no better. Why should a couple years in the military, all that is needed to be called a 'vet', entitle one to anything, unless there is a service connected health problem. Another ploy by liberals taking us down the yellow brick road to socialism. I get tired of your bull**** "socialism" ****. Goodbye. More successful destruction of the group by Harry. Oh well, I guess Harry wins for now... Imagine his glee at the chaos he causes... What did HK have to do with Loogy's comment? ****, quit talking about him. -- John H ~~ Snerk ~~ You guys should have your own reality show. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:35:02 -0500, NowNow wrote:
In article , says... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:21:22 -0500, NowNow wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:18 -0800, jps wrote: If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? The use of 'vets' is a ploy grip the hearts of folks who know no better. Why should a couple years in the military, all that is needed to be called a 'vet', entitle one to anything, unless there is a service connected health problem. Another ploy by liberals taking us down the yellow brick road to socialism. I get tired of your bull**** "socialism" ****. Goodbye. I'm tired of the bull**** socialism **** also. I wish the friggin' liberals would stop with it. It hasn't worked anywhere yet. Neither has Republican Nazi bull****. Here, learn something: http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...gressives-and- democrats-really-socialists/question-603437/ Nah. Besides, I thought you said 'Goodbye'. Does 'goodbye' mean 'I'll respond to your next post'? I don't think Republican Nazi bull**** would work anywhere. Actually, I've never heard of that form of government, so I'll assume your reference is 'bull****', i.e., not worth opening. End of Conversation -- John H |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
In article ,
says... In article , says... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:18 -0800, jps wrote: If we were sustaining six deaths every day on the battlefield, it'd cause us all pain. Why doesn't this? According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001." The 1.46 million working-age veterans that did not have health insurance last year all experienced reduced access to care as a consequence, leading to "six preventable deaths a day." Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School. [...] Dr. David Himmelstein, the co-author of the report and associate professor of medicine at Harvard, commented, "On this Veterans Day we should not only honor the nearly 500 soldiers who have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the more than 2,200 veterans who were killed by our broken health insurance system. That's six preventable deaths a day." The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? The use of 'vets' is a ploy grip the hearts of folks who know no better. Why should a couple years in the military, all that is needed to be called a 'vet', entitle one to anything, unless there is a service connected health problem. Another ploy by liberals taking us down the yellow brick road to socialism. I get tired of your bull**** "socialism" ****. Goodbye. More successful destruction of the group by Harry. Oh well, I guess Harry wins for now... Imagine his glee at the chaos he causes... |
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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message m... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message om... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from what I recall. Excellent coverage, eh? |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"jps" wrote in message
... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax. com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from what I recall. Excellent coverage, eh? Yes, it took decades. Now we have Coburn blocking legislation (supported by just about everyone) that would give vets better benefits. They certainly "get taken care of," but not in the proper way. -- Nom=de=Plume |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax. com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from what I recall. Excellent coverage, eh? Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army. |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax .com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from what I recall. Excellent coverage, eh? Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army. By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked. -- Nom=de=Plume |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:33:44 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax .com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from what I recall. Excellent coverage, eh? Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army. How many decades did your brother wait for the VA to recognize the effects of Agent Orange? Just going to ignore that little fact? |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message om... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any. -- John H "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Churchill |
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:15:03 -0500, John H
wrote: On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax. com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any. Ok, John. On which Depeche Mode album did "Agent Orange" first appear? :) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"John H" wrote in message
... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax. com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any. What color is it? -- Nom=de=Plume |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax .com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any. What color is it? Prussian Blue? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On 11/13/09 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "John wrote in message ... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any. What color is it? Prussian Blue? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access If Herr Herring is involved, it's prussian blue for sure... :) -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:38:57 -0500, H the K
wrote: On 11/13/09 4:36 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "John wrote in message ... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any. What color is it? Prussian Blue? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access If Herr Herring is involved, it's prussian blue for sure... :) I would be surprised if Prussian Blue is a group on John's list. He seems a bit more sensible than that. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:33:44 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message m... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4a x.com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from what I recall. Excellent coverage, eh? Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army. How many decades did your brother wait for the VA to recognize the effects of Agent Orange? Just going to ignore that little fact? Nope. |
6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message m... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4a x.com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from what I recall. Excellent coverage, eh? Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army. By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked. -- Nom=de=Plume Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that health care. Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting killed, and working in the chemical. Your point? |
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