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nom=de=plume November 13th 09 07:03 PM

6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
 
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax .com...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,
wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would
do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave
at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks
in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans
(ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?


Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also
because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army.


By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

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jps November 13th 09 07:20 PM

6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
 
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:33:44 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax .com...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,
wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?


Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also
because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army.


How many decades did your brother wait for the VA to recognize the
effects of Agent Orange?

Just going to ignore that little fact?

John H[_10_] November 13th 09 08:15 PM

6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
 
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
om...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,
wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.


And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?


They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.
--

John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill

[email protected] November 13th 09 09:28 PM

6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
 
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:15:03 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax. com...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,
wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?


They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.


Ok, John. On which Depeche Mode album did "Agent Orange" first
appear? :)

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nom=de=plume November 13th 09 09:29 PM

6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
 
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax. com...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,
wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?


They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.



What color is it?

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[email protected] November 13th 09 09:36 PM

6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
 
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax .com...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,
wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.



What color is it?


Prussian Blue?

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H the K[_4_] November 13th 09 09:38 PM

6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
 
On 11/13/09 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,
wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.



What color is it?


Prussian Blue?

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If Herr Herring is involved, it's prussian blue for sure... :)

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[email protected] November 13th 09 09:53 PM

6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
 
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:38:57 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/13/09 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,
wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.


What color is it?


Prussian Blue?

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If Herr Herring is involved, it's prussian blue for sure... :)


I would be surprised if Prussian Blue is a group on John's list. He
seems a bit more sensible than that.

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Bill McKee November 13th 09 10:06 PM

6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:33:44 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4a x.com...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,
wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would
do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave
at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks
in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans
(ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.

After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?


Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also
because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army.


How many decades did your brother wait for the VA to recognize the
effects of Agent Orange?

Just going to ignore that little fact?


Nope.



Bill McKee November 13th 09 10:07 PM

6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4a x.com...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,
wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would
do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave
at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks
in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans
(ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.

After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?


Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also
because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army.


By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that health care.
Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting killed, and working in
the chemical. Your point?




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