On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:59:38 -0800, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that would
possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in other countries
to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF

The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of one-half of
all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly private clinics.
Abortion clinics opened in the first place because hospitals were failing
to provide adequate services on a fair and equal basis for Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.


It's revolting to me that those people were able to get that in what the
House passed. My understanding is that it'll be stripped out at some point,
but it's still shocking.


Again I'll have to refer to Frank Schaeffer's book, "Crazy for God." He
actually made me see the other side and why they see it that way.

I still think they are wrong. "Gated Communities" of the mind.

According to many "Christian" groups, gays promote anal sex.

I'm sure my kids can't wait to have anal sex because that's what some
gay people do. God forbid they ever find out that straight people
sometimes favor anal sex.

Gated Communities is kind, more like prison.

jps wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:59:38 -0800, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that would
possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in other countries
to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF

The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of one-half of
all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly private clinics.
Abortion clinics opened in the first place because hospitals were failing
to provide adequate services on a fair and equal basis for Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.

It's revolting to me that those people were able to get that in what the
House passed. My understanding is that it'll be stripped out at some point,
but it's still shocking.

Again I'll have to refer to Frank Schaeffer's book, "Crazy for God." He
actually made me see the other side and why they see it that way.

I still think they are wrong. "Gated Communities" of the mind.

According to many "Christian" groups, gays promote anal sex.

Pretty ****y experience I bet.

I'm sure my kids can't wait to have anal sex because that's what some
gay people do. God forbid they ever find out that straight people
sometimes favor anal sex.

Phil McCracken and Ben Dover at 6pm, Dick 'n Jane on at 11pm. Go figure.

Gated Communities is kind, more like prison.

Or keep the riff raff out.

Canuck57 wrote:
jps wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:59:38 -0800, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
Listening to the anti abortion people protest any health plan that
would possibly include abortion, I was wondering what they do in
other countries to appease these opposite beliefs.

From:
http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpaper...lly-Funded.PDF


The politicizing of abortion led to the current situation of
one-half of all abortions in Canada being performed at mostly
private clinics. Abortion clinics opened in the first place because
hospitals were failing to provide adequate services on a fair and
equal basis for Canadian women.

Hard to read that document and not see the logic.

It's revolting to me that those people were able to get that in what
the House passed. My understanding is that it'll be stripped out at
some point, but it's still shocking.

Again I'll have to refer to Frank Schaeffer's book, "Crazy for God."
He actually made me see the other side and why they see it that way.

I still think they are wrong. "Gated Communities" of the mind.

According to many "Christian" groups, gays promote anal sex.

Pretty ****y experience I bet.

I'm sure my kids can't wait to have anal sex because that's what some
gay people do. God forbid they ever find out that straight people
sometimes favor anal sex.

Phil McCracken and Ben Dover at 6pm, Dick 'n Jane on at 11pm. Go figure.

Gated Communities is kind, more like prison.

Or keep the riff raff out.

What Schaeffer was referring to was gated communities of the mind, where
you surround yourself with like minded people and refuse to let in any
new ideas.

He has some truly great observations about a movement that he has been
given credit for starting.

He now refers to the people who have his videos and older books as
"Permanently scared and intentionally ignorant."