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WildBill November 11th 09 11:24 PM

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"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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"Loogypicker" wrote in message
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And to be precise, if you were to drop the person from that three
feet
onto the couch cushion, that would be the same force of impact that
propelled him three feet.

Horse****.

And again, that person would put his hands or feet down. This guy got
hit straight up the spine with nothing to break the impact force...


Hey, who said "horse****"???? A force is a force. If it takes a certain
force to propel X amount of weight Y amount of distance, then simple
physics dictates that it would take the same force to stop that given
weight from the given distance.


Why is it so hard for you to understand that the guy was vaulted with no
warning so he took the full hit, why is it so hard to understand that he
would put his hands and feet down before he landed? Did you watch the
video, the guy was reaching for his lower back before he even hit the
floor.. On paper, maybe you are right, must be an engineer thing;)
Technitions usually are the ones to put stuff into practice anyway;)
Note the smiley faces... !!!


The *total* force needed to lift the man off the couch to apex and then from
apex to stationary on the couch again will be equal. The difference is in
the total amount of time that force is applied.

It's no different from a man climbing a 100' ladder or being shot out of a
cannon to a height of 100'. Both take about the same amount of energy (
exactly the same in a vacuum), but I'd bet you'd rather climb.




WildBill November 11th 09 11:47 PM

Okay
 

"NowNow" wrote in message
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"NowNow" wrote in message
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----- Original Message -----
From: "NowNow"

Are you really that friggin' stupid? Again, show me your math. The
forces are equal, dip****. The "variables" would be such things as
did
he land exactly like he took off? If you take a known weight, such
as a
piece of concrete of X dimension and Y weight, put a load cell
between
it and the cushion and launch it to Z height. Get the reading. Now,
take
the same Y weight, drop it from the same Z height with the load cell
on
the cushion. What will the results be and why?

--
WAFA the newsgroup liar free!

A bullet is shot straight up into the air.
Is the force the bullet leaves the barrel with the same as the force
it
hits
the ground with?

You obviously don't know what in hell your talking about. This
conversation is over until you provide the math to back it up. Reason,
the bullet is shot so far the it reaches terminal velocity on it's
return. Do you REALLY think that's the case with a 150# man at three
feet????

--
WAFA the newsgroup liar free!


Last hint for you-

The man experienced more force for a shorter length of time when he left
the
couch and less force for a longer time when he returned to the couch.

Capish?


Again, show the math. Capish?


Impulse = Ft = mv - mu



jps November 11th 09 11:52 PM

Okay
 
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:49:43 -0500, "WildBill"
wrote:


"NowNow" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"NowNow" wrote in message
...
In article ,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "NowNow"

Are you really that friggin' stupid? Again, show me your math. The
forces are equal, dip****. The "variables" would be such things as
did
he land exactly like he took off? If you take a known weight, such
as a
piece of concrete of X dimension and Y weight, put a load cell
between
it and the cushion and launch it to Z height. Get the reading. Now,
take
the same Y weight, drop it from the same Z height with the load cell
on
the cushion. What will the results be and why?

--
WAFA the newsgroup liar free!

A bullet is shot straight up into the air.
Is the force the bullet leaves the barrel with the same as the force
it
hits
the ground with?

You obviously don't know what in hell your talking about. This
conversation is over until you provide the math to back it up. Reason,
the bullet is shot so far the it reaches terminal velocity on it's
return. Do you REALLY think that's the case with a 150# man at three
feet????

--
WAFA the newsgroup liar free!

Last hint for you-

The man experienced more force for a shorter length of time when he left
the
couch and less force for a longer time when he returned to the couch.

Capish?


Again, show the math. Capish?


You really are an idiot, aren't you?


He's as smart about forces and velocity as you are about politics.

Hope you're enjoying one another.

nom=de=plume November 12th 09 12:19 AM

Okay
 
"Jim" wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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jps wrote:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:37:09 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:16:43 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

Now this is just hilarious!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-cChNRmdGg
Put an explosive device under a cough cushion.

Hilarious.

Would have been even funnier if it had driven his spine up into his
brain pan or he hit his head on the edge of the table on the way down.

Freakin' really funny.

Assholes.
Idiots. Still could have permanent injuries he doesn't know about.

A very stupid thing to do. What kind of an asshole (that made it to
adulthood) would think that is funny?

The guy could have had a ruptured intestine or spinal injury. The
others had the opportunity to spend the rest of their lives in jail.

I'm not sure who it is that originally posted this (Loogy?) but my
decision to filter them has been confirmed as a good one.



I'm glad I'm not a personal injury lawyer.... :)


When people think this stuff is actually funny, that opens up a lot of
work for personal injury attorneys.



True... just not my cup of Earl Grey. Never had any interest in it.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume November 12th 09 12:20 AM

Okay
 
"WildBill" wrote in message
...

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

"Loogypicker" wrote in message
...


And to be precise, if you were to drop the person from that three
feet
onto the couch cushion, that would be the same force of impact that
propelled him three feet.

Horse****.

And again, that person would put his hands or feet down. This guy got
hit straight up the spine with nothing to break the impact force...

Hey, who said "horse****"???? A force is a force. If it takes a certain
force to propel X amount of weight Y amount of distance, then simple
physics dictates that it would take the same force to stop that given
weight from the given distance.


Why is it so hard for you to understand that the guy was vaulted with no
warning so he took the full hit, why is it so hard to understand that he
would put his hands and feet down before he landed? Did you watch the
video, the guy was reaching for his lower back before he even hit the
floor.. On paper, maybe you are right, must be an engineer thing;)
Technitions usually are the ones to put stuff into practice anyway;)
Note the smiley faces... !!!


The *total* force needed to lift the man off the couch to apex and then
from apex to stationary on the couch again will be equal. The difference
is in the total amount of time that force is applied.

It's no different from a man climbing a 100' ladder or being shot out of a
cannon to a height of 100'. Both take about the same amount of energy (
exactly the same in a vacuum), but I'd bet you'd rather climb.


They'd have to shoot me out of a canon, since I'm afraid of heights.

--
Nom=de=Plume



I am Tosk November 12th 09 01:51 AM

Okay
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

"Loogypicker" wrote in message
...


And to be precise, if you were to drop the person from that three feet
onto the couch cushion, that would be the same force of impact that
propelled him three feet.

Horse****.


And again, that person would put his hands or feet down. This guy got
hit straight up the spine with nothing to break the impact force...


Hey, who said "horse****"???? A force is a force. If it takes a certain
force to propel X amount of weight Y amount of distance, then simple
physics dictates that it would take the same force to stop that given
weight from the given distance.


Why is it so hard for you to understand that the guy was vaulted with no
warning so he took the full hit, why is it so hard to understand that he
would put his hands and feet down before he landed? Did you watch the
video, the guy was reaching for his lower back before he even hit the
floor.. On paper, maybe you are right, must be an engineer thing;)
Technitions usually are the ones to put stuff into practice anyway;)
Note the smiley faces... !!!

I am Tosk November 12th 09 02:00 AM

Okay
 
In article , says...

----- Original Message -----
From: "NowNow"

Are you really that friggin' stupid? Again, show me your math. The
forces are equal, dip****. The "variables" would be such things as did
he land exactly like he took off? If you take a known weight, such as a
piece of concrete of X dimension and Y weight, put a load cell between
it and the cushion and launch it to Z height. Get the reading. Now, take
the same Y weight, drop it from the same Z height with the load cell on
the cushion. What will the results be and why?

--
WAFA the newsgroup liar free!


A bullet is shot straight up into the air.
Is the force the bullet leaves the barrel with the same as the force it hits
the ground with?


Well, probably not in that case as the bullet falling reaches terminal
velocity, which is much slower than the bullet leaving the weapon. In
this case the bullet scenario is not relevant as in the couch incident,
the falling body does not reach terminal velocity...

NowNow November 12th 09 01:57 PM

Okay
 
In article , says...

"NowNow" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"NowNow" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

----- Original Message -----
From: "NowNow"

Are you really that friggin' stupid? Again, show me your math. The
forces are equal, dip****. The "variables" would be such things as
did
he land exactly like he took off? If you take a known weight, such
as a
piece of concrete of X dimension and Y weight, put a load cell
between
it and the cushion and launch it to Z height. Get the reading. Now,
take
the same Y weight, drop it from the same Z height with the load cell
on
the cushion. What will the results be and why?

--
WAFA the newsgroup liar free!

A bullet is shot straight up into the air.
Is the force the bullet leaves the barrel with the same as the force
it
hits
the ground with?

You obviously don't know what in hell your talking about. This
conversation is over until you provide the math to back it up. Reason,
the bullet is shot so far the it reaches terminal velocity on it's
return. Do you REALLY think that's the case with a 150# man at three
feet????

--
WAFA the newsgroup liar free!

Last hint for you-

The man experienced more force for a shorter length of time when he left
the
couch and less force for a longer time when he returned to the couch.

Capish?


Again, show the math. Capish?


You really are an idiot, aren't you?


Quite the contrary. I love math. I do this for a living!

--
WAFA the newsgroup liar free!

NowNow November 12th 09 01:58 PM

Okay
 
In article , says...

"NowNow" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"NowNow" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

----- Original Message -----
From: "NowNow"

Are you really that friggin' stupid? Again, show me your math. The
forces are equal, dip****. The "variables" would be such things as
did
he land exactly like he took off? If you take a known weight, such
as a
piece of concrete of X dimension and Y weight, put a load cell
between
it and the cushion and launch it to Z height. Get the reading. Now,
take
the same Y weight, drop it from the same Z height with the load cell
on
the cushion. What will the results be and why?

--
WAFA the newsgroup liar free!

A bullet is shot straight up into the air.
Is the force the bullet leaves the barrel with the same as the force
it
hits
the ground with?

You obviously don't know what in hell your talking about. This
conversation is over until you provide the math to back it up. Reason,
the bullet is shot so far the it reaches terminal velocity on it's
return. Do you REALLY think that's the case with a 150# man at three
feet????

--
WAFA the newsgroup liar free!

Last hint for you-

The man experienced more force for a shorter length of time when he left
the
couch and less force for a longer time when he returned to the couch.

Capish?


Again, show the math. Capish?


Impulse = Ft = mv - mu


Uh, to start with.....no. But, if you wish, have at it. I'll correct you
when you do.

--
WAFA the newsgroup liar free!

NowNow November 12th 09 01:59 PM

Okay
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

"Loogypicker" wrote in message
...


And to be precise, if you were to drop the person from that three feet
onto the couch cushion, that would be the same force of impact that
propelled him three feet.

Horse****.

And again, that person would put his hands or feet down. This guy got
hit straight up the spine with nothing to break the impact force...


Hey, who said "horse****"???? A force is a force. If it takes a certain
force to propel X amount of weight Y amount of distance, then simple
physics dictates that it would take the same force to stop that given
weight from the given distance.


Why is it so hard for you to understand that the guy was vaulted with no
warning so he took the full hit, why is it so hard to understand that he
would put his hands and feet down before he landed? Did you watch the
video, the guy was reaching for his lower back before he even hit the
floor.. On paper, maybe you are right, must be an engineer thing;)
Technitions usually are the ones to put stuff into practice anyway;)
Note the smiley faces... !!!


I don't give a DAMN!!! I KNOW full well the forces involved.

--
WAFA the newsgroup liar free!


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