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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. |
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On Nov 8, 11:47*am, jps wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:40:29 -0600, wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous.../JCTletter1105.... Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. *And compassion has lost its meaning as well. Nice bumper sticker. Yes, it would be. But don't take it so hard that you didn't think of it first. |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" You need to look up the definition of red herring. You cannot bitch about bleeding money on health care if you had absolutely no problem with spending even more on bombs and tax cuts. What did the wars do for our country? What will health care reform do for our country? Where would you invest, in bombs? |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:49 -0800, jps wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" You need to look up the definition of red herring. You cannot bitch about bleeding money on health care if you had absolutely no problem with spending even more on bombs and tax cuts. What did the wars do for our country? What will health care reform do for our country? Where would you invest, in bombs? For you convenience, a definition was included in the content of the bumper sticker. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On 11/8/09 5:10 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) As if that were some sort of accomplishment. |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:20:19 -0500, H the K
wrote: On 11/8/09 5:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) As if that were some sort of accomplishment. And now we have a new sub-fallacy of the ignoratio elenchi, the 'red snapper.' So named because of the interlocutor that employs it without compunction - the communist curmudgeon, H the K. Of course, as far as interlocutors go, the Communist Curmudgeon is proficient in all fallacies, formal and informal. He is a credit to his...uh...discipline (or complete lack thereof). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder. The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the performance! You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :) -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs -- Nothing quite like enjoying serious music over the high audio quality youtube network. Perhaps that is better, though, than herring's usual methodology...stealing musical intellectual property for playback and encouraging others to do so, too. |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:34:17 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder. The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the performance! You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :) I know. And to add insult to injury, my sister's a lawyer. (University of Iowa.) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:35:45 -0500, H the K
wrote: On 11/8/09 7:28 PM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs -- Nothing quite like enjoying serious music over the high audio quality youtube network. Perhaps that is better, though, than herring's usual methodology...stealing musical intellectual property for playback and encouraging others to do so, too. A few years ago, the lawyer that handled the corporate legal affairs for my manufacturing concern let me borrow his external hard drive to transfer the music, .wav, .wma, .mp3, to my own. He had about 300 gigs of an eclectic collection ranging from Pete Seeger to OMC. I didn't ask him where he got the music... -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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... On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:34:17 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder. The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the performance! You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :) I know. And to add insult to injury, my sister's a lawyer. (University of Iowa.) Gurl power! -- Nom=de=Plume |
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says... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs Not quite as boomy as I like. I didn't know your were a cannon cocker? |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:12:22 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:28:42 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs Not quite as boomy as I like. It's an acquired taste, I think. I've explored his music out of curiosity more than having an affinity for it. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:14:48 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:48:54 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:35:45 -0500, H the K wrote: On 11/8/09 7:28 PM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs -- Nothing quite like enjoying serious music over the high audio quality youtube network. Perhaps that is better, though, than herring's usual methodology...stealing musical intellectual property for playback and encouraging others to do so, too. A few years ago, the lawyer that handled the corporate legal affairs for my manufacturing concern let me borrow his external hard drive to transfer the music, .wav, .wma, .mp3, to my own. He had about 300 gigs of an eclectic collection ranging from Pete Seeger to OMC. I didn't ask him where he got the music... It seems our good friend, Harold, is unable to respond to a post without an attempted insult. Perhaps he sleeps better because of it. I'm begining to doubt that he knows any other form of communication. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On 11/8/09 8:29 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:14:01 -0600, wrote: And now we have a new sub-fallacy of the ignoratio elenchi, the 'red snapper.' So named because of the interlocutor that employs it without compunction - the communist curmudgeon, H the K. Of course, as far as interlocutors go, the Communist Curmudgeon is proficient in all fallacies, formal and informal. He is a credit to his...uh...discipline (or complete lack thereof). 90 percent of the time reading He Who Must Not Be Named posts is like reading Hokusai translated into English by Stevie Wonder on a manual typewriter. I often get the feeling that somewhere on the web is a site dedicated to translating his tautology into something coherent and understandable. This from a right-winger who hangs out with imbeciles? |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder. The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the performance! You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :) -- Nom=de=Plume Around these parts....worse! |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder. The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the performance! You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :) -- Nom=de=Plume Around these parts....worse! Here's old friendly Don doing what he does best. |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:23:15 -0600, wrote: It's an acquired taste, I think. I've explored his music out of curiosity more than having an affinity for it. ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........... Need some coffee.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkWJDos13vw I think I will go make a cup of coffee. |
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... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder. The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the performance! You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :) -- Nom=de=Plume Around these parts....worse! :) Around here, I don't usually tell people about my former profession. They'll stop or never start liking me. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder. The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the performance! You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :) -- Nom=de=Plume Around these parts....worse! :) Around here, I don't usually tell people about my former profession. They'll stop or never start liking me. -- Nom=de=Plume Johnny & his army will find some way to use that info against you. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:21:47 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs Not quite as boomy as I like. I didn't know your were a cannon cocker? My first Army job was in Artillery. Not a cannon cocker, but fire direction control. They did let me go pull the lanyard once. -- John H Sounds like someone in the army had some common sense. Would they call that mitigating the damage? |
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:08:52 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:23:15 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:12:22 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:28:42 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs Not quite as boomy as I like. It's an acquired taste, I think. I've explored his music out of curiosity more than having an affinity for it. Thank goodness. I was feeling very 'un-connoisseurish'. Now I realize I'll just have to listen to it for a few more decades to acquire an appreciation. Call me back in 2038. Listening to Ives is like chewing on aspirin to enjoy the taste. I posted it more for Harry's and JPS' listening pleasure, though. I wouldn't want to offend your sensibilities. :) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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Don White wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message :) Around here, I don't usually tell people about my former profession. They'll stop or never start liking me. -- Nom=de=Plume Johnny & his army will find some way to use that info against you. Donnie, How could we possibly improve her comment. It's delicious as it stands. |
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:21:47 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs Not quite as boomy as I like. I didn't know your were a cannon cocker? My first Army job was in Artillery. Not a cannon cocker, but fire direction control. They did let me go pull the lanyard once. -- John H Sounds like someone in the army had some common sense. Would they call that mitigating the damage? Donnie, Your master is working your strings again. |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:34:17 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder. The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the performance! You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :) Was the concert in an auto parts junkyard? Have admired his work but from a distance and in small doses. Woody Allen had it right in Take the Money and Run. As punishment, he was put in the hole for with an insurance salesman. Or, his famous line: "There are worse things in life than death. Have you ever spent an evening with an insurance salesman?" |
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... On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:34:17 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder. The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the performance! You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :) Was the concert in an auto parts junkyard? Have admired his work but from a distance and in small doses. Woody Allen had it right in Take the Money and Run. As punishment, he was put in the hole for with an insurance salesman. Or, his famous line: "There are worse things in life than death. Have you ever spent an evening with an insurance salesman?" Just a regular theater. I won't do that again. Allen is one strange guy... -- Nom=de=Plume |
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Don White wrote:
wrote in message ... "Don wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder. The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the performance! You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :) -- Nom=de=Plume Around these parts....worse! :) Around here, I don't usually tell people about my former profession. They'll stop or never start liking me. -- Nom=de=Plume Johnny& his army will find some way to use that info against you. Who is John's "army", Don? Rob |
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"Rob" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... "Don wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder. The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the performance! You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :) -- Nom=de=Plume Around these parts....worse! :) Around here, I don't usually tell people about my former profession. They'll stop or never start liking me. -- Nom=de=Plume Johnny& his army will find some way to use that info against you. Who is John's "army", Don? Rob Looking to enlist? You'd make a perfect Dope Army recruit. |
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:26:30 -0500, Rob wrote:
Don White wrote: wrote in message ... "Don wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: In the Democrats own words.... http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And compassion has lost its meaning as well. What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government? Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government. That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate. Understanding this helps one understand government. Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now? Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue! The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government wants more of your wealth. And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments? Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go something like this: "I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?' Honk if you love red herring!" I do. John Herring Now please stop taking my name in vain. I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen again... You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there you'll pounce on it like a starved cat. That's OK. I'll just go honk. I think you've done figured me out. :) Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the most spectacular finish ever to a symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28 As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an insurance salesman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs The first part sort of reminds me of a semi-coherent part of a John Cage concert. I went to one many years ago and fell asleep on my date's shoulder. The last thing I remembered was a baby crying. It was part of the performance! You're an insurance salesman? That's almost as bad as a lawyer. :) -- Nom=de=Plume Around these parts....worse! :) Around here, I don't usually tell people about my former profession. They'll stop or never start liking me. -- Nom=de=Plume Johnny& his army will find some way to use that info against you. Who is John's "army", Don? Why would that interest you Rob? Unless you're a sock puppet... |
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