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On Nov 7, 10:59*am, Tim Crowley wrote:
On Nov 7, 4:07*am, martin wrote: Does anyone still support the government in Washington, DC? Yes, the vast majority of Americans. *You 1% American haters are forced to hide behind anonymous mailers while the world passes you by. You must live in a different world. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/pol...ve/?poll_id=18 |
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On Nov 8, 1:02*pm, Werner wrote:
On Nov 7, 10:59*am, Tim Crowley wrote: On Nov 7, 4:07*am, martin wrote: Does anyone still support the government in Washington, DC? Yes, the vast majority of Americans. *You 1% American haters are forced to hide behind anonymous mailers while the world passes you by. You must live in a different world.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/pol...ve/?poll_id=18 political polls have nothing to do with supporting your Government. You may disagree with the President. Disprove of how he's doing his job. But if you're an American, you realize that are the Government and it is your duty as an American Citizen to support your Government. Maybe a civics class would help you clear it up. |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:13:28 -0800 (PST), Tim Crowley
wrote: political polls have nothing to do with supporting your Government. You may disagree with the President. Disprove of how he's doing his job. But if you're an American, you realize that are the Government and it is your duty as an American Citizen to support your Government. Maybe a civics class would help you clear it up. This is a value which is more popular with the Right than with the Left. But it is a value which seems to be ignored when the other party is in power. Maybe it just sounds as though it's ignored, and the Right is hoping for the President's policies to succeed. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
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On Nov 8, 8:13Â*pm, Tim Crowley wrote:
On Nov 8, 1:02Â*pm, Werner wrote: On Nov 7, 10:59Â*am, Tim Crowley wrote: On Nov 7, 4:07Â*am, martin wrote: Does anyone still support the government in Washington, DC? Yes, the vast majority of Americans. Â*You 1% American haters are forced to hide behind anonymous mailers while the world passes you by.. You must live in a different world.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/pol...ve/?poll_id=18 political polls have nothing to do with supporting your Government. You may disagree with the President. Disprove of how he's doing his job. But if you're an American, you realize that are the Government and it is your duty as an American Citizen to support your Government. Â*Maybe a civics class would help you clear it up. No the civics lesson I learned was how government was supposed to be accountable to We The People. If "we the people'' must pay for a "money pit'' we obviously don't want, does that not make us accountable to government? http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Accountable.shtml http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Education.shtml http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/PerformanceGap.shtml http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/ReportCard.shtml http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Schools.shtml despite the fact that the U.S. spends the largest amount of money per pupil in the world, standardized international achievement tests reveal that U.S. public schools achieve mediocre scores.. For example, according to the 2000 Program for International Student Assessment (PISA) for 15- year-old students, the U.S. ranked 15th in reading, 18th in mathematics, and 14th in science literacy among 27 OECD countries (U.S. DOE, 2001). http://www.uwm.edu/~kim/papers/Accountability_Final.pdf " In crafting the Bill of Rights, the framers were careful to acknowledge implicitly and explicitly two key truths: The first is that government does not grant rights it acknowledges them. They exist independently of government. They're part of who and what we are. And, as Jefferson noted in the Declaration of Independence, the only legitimate function of government is to secure them. The second is that government is a servant to whom we delegate powers, not a master who dispenses privileges. The Constitution carefully enumerates the powers we, the people, delegate to our government and it specifically denies that government any powers not so delegated. Our rights lie beyond the pale of that delegation. They are sacrosanct. Any government which infringes upon them is engaged in an intolerable usurpation. " www.badnarik.org ----- A "right" as envisioned by the Founders meant that the government was notÂ*permitted to interfere with your pursuit of them, i.e., your pursuit ofÂ*happiness was to be unhindered by government.Â* The "right" of free speech means that government cannot interfere with yourÂ*free speech. The "right" of gun ownership means that the government cannot infringe yourÂ*gun ownership. What does "right" to health care mean? It means that the government cannotÂ*stand in the way of your pursuit of health care, or impede your obtainingÂ*health care. The "right" to an attorney means that the government cannot prevent you obtaining an attorney to represent you. Of course, "right" has incorrectly come to mean that someone must supply youÂ*with something. If your "right" to housing means that some slave mustÂ*supply you with housing, and your "right" to health care means that someÂ*slave must supply you with health care, and your "right" to an attorneyÂ*means that some slave must supply you with an attorney, does your "right" toÂ*free speech mean that some slave must supply you with a loudspeaker, or TVÂ*air time? Does your "right" to own guns mean that some slave must supplyÂ*you with guns? http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Rights.shtml Dollars in the common treasury are like fish in the common sea - anyone who can will harvest to extinction. That is why socialism is fundamentally corrupting and can not work. The Fed is making a lot of paper fish. This is an illusion of wealth. The real fish are gone. Â*---- 
http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/how.shtml Governing has become a way to get privileges for some at the expense of others. 
http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/what.shtml http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2008...onal-debt.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp8Zm...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FSoX...eature=related |
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:51:43 -0800 (PST), Werner
wrote: despite the fact that the U.S. spends the largest amount of money per pupil in the world, standardized international achievement tests reveal that U.S. public schools achieve mediocre scores.. For example, I'd prefer to measure the education throughout one's life. The goal isn't to have the best 6th grade test takers, the goal is to have the best educated work force. So that's what should be measured. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
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On Nov 9, 6:52*pm, Howard Brazee wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:51:43 -0800 (PST), Werner wrote: despite the fact that the U.S. spends the largest amount of money per pupil in the world, standardized international achievement tests reveal that U.S. public schools achieve mediocre scores.. For example, I'd prefer to measure the education throughout one's life. * *The goal isn't to have the best 6th grade test takers, the goal is to have the best educated work force. * *So that's what should be measured. -- There is probably a correlation between poor early education and lifetime learning. |
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![]() I'd prefer to measure the education throughout one's life. The goal isn't to have the best 6th grade test takers, the goal is to have the best educated work force. So that's what should be measured. I can see you have had no experience in the past ten years with hiring personnel. It is a rarity when you can find one who can properly fill out an application. Oh, yes, I know when you're hiring someone for cleanup or menial job positions that you don't need an English major, but it is nice to have someone who can spell and tell you what ten percent of ten is without having to use a computer for a minute, then come up with a guess. Steve |
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SteveB wrote:
I'd prefer to measure the education throughout one's life. The goal isn't to have the best 6th grade test takers, the goal is to have the best educated work force. So that's what should be measured. I can see you have had no experience in the past ten years with hiring personnel. It is a rarity when you can find one who can properly fill out an application. Oh, yes, I know when you're hiring someone for cleanup or menial job positions that you don't need an English major, but it is nice to have someone who can spell and tell you what ten percent of ten is without having to use a computer for a minute, then come up with a guess. Steve I don't know who you are responding to but education doesn't NECESSARILY equate to intelligence or common sense or analytical skills or knowledge or life experiences. There's a lot of folks out there with multiple sheepskins that can't tie their shoes or operate a microwave oven. |
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