"BAR" wrote in message
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Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf-
563122944.html?x=0&.v=8

But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault.

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104

When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and
responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying
if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting
undone what Bush did.

Before the campaign, all we heard was jobs, jobs, jobs. Now all we hear
about are how many jobs were created or "saved". Inflated imaginings are
what they are. And now we are all hearing about how many jobs this health
manifesto will create.

My question is: When?

Steve

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"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf-
563122944.html?x=0&.v=8

But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault.

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104

When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and
responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying
if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting
undone what Bush did.

Before the campaign, all we heard was jobs, jobs, jobs. Now all we hear
about are how many jobs were created or "saved". Inflated imaginings are
what they are. And now we are all hearing about how many jobs this health
manifesto will create.

My question is: When?

Steve

Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work. The stimulus
money that hasn't been spent needs to get pulled back and maybe do some
tax credits for companies to hire, as Senator Feingold suggested this
morning. We really need to forget about the health care bill which we
know will add to the deficit and cost jobs, cap and trade too and get
back to jobs...

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Wafa free again.

On 11/6/09 9:39 AM, Tosk wrote:


Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work.


No amount of "stimulous" will convince a real employer to hire a loser
like you, Ingersoll.

On Nov 6, 9:56*am, H the K wrote:
On 11/6/09 9:39 AM, Tosk wrote:



Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work.

No amount of "stimulous" will convince a real employer to hire a loser
like you, Ingersoll.

You should expect 12.5% unemployment by June 2010. Us employers have
gone on strike against the Obamination and his cronies who caused the
economic meltdown. As long as Dodd, Frank and Obama are still in
office or still have power, nobody will invest. At least Corzine who
benefited from the meltdown got kicked out.
So, you can either vote people out in the 2010 election or learn to
say "Welcome to WalMart".

On 11/6/09 10:35 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 6, 9:56 am, H the wrote:
On 11/6/09 9:39 AM, Tosk wrote:



Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work.

No amount of "stimulous" will convince a real employer to hire a loser
like you, Ingersoll.

You should expect 12.5% unemployment by June 2010. Us employers have
gone on strike against the Obamination and his cronies who caused the
economic meltdown. As long as Dodd, Frank and Obama are still in
office or still have power, nobody will invest. At least Corzine who
benefited from the meltdown got kicked out.
So, you can either vote people out in the 2010 election or learn to
say "Welcome to WalMart".


Hehehe. Are you and SW Tom taking the same meds? You come across as
crazy as he does.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Nov 6, 9:56 am, H the K wrote:
On 11/6/09 9:39 AM, Tosk wrote:



Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work.

No amount of "stimulous" will convince a real employer to hire a loser
like you, Ingersoll.

You should expect 12.5% unemployment by June 2010. Us employers have
gone on strike against the Obamination and his cronies who caused the
economic meltdown. As long as Dodd, Frank and Obama are still in
office or still have power, nobody will invest. At least Corzine who
benefited from the meltdown got kicked out.
So, you can either vote people out in the 2010 election or learn to
say "Welcome to WalMart".


Reply: Completely untrue. the unemployment rate will still climb slightly,
but as productivity increases at some point no significant gains can be had
with current employees, orders (which are increasing) will force companies
to hire. The turning point should be mid-2010.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Nov 6, 1:51*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Nov 6, 9:56 am, H the K wrote:

On 11/6/09 9:39 AM, Tosk wrote:

Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work.

No amount of "stimulous" will convince a real employer to hire a loser
like you, Ingersoll.

You should expect 12.5% unemployment by June 2010. *Us employers have
gone on strike against the Obamination and his cronies who caused the
economic meltdown. *As long as Dodd, Frank and Obama are still in
office or still have power, nobody will invest. *At least Corzine who
benefited from the meltdown got kicked out.
So, you can either vote people out in the 2010 election or learn to
say "Welcome to WalMart".

Reply: Completely untrue. the unemployment rate will still climb slightly,
but as productivity increases at some point no significant gains can be had
with current employees, orders (which are increasing) will force companies
to hire. The turning point should be mid-2010.

--
Nom=de=Plume

We should all feel so good, the second derivative is getting smaller,
ie the rate of increase is getting smaller. Note, unemployment is
still getting larger and is far beyond anything Obama said would
happen under his porkulus that has done so much to cause
unemployment. Of course with his ideas on punishing small business by
hitting em with an 8% tax for not supplying health care, you can
expect unemployment to jump sharply if they pass this monstrosity.
Most employers know they can do well with fewer employees and when
they consider this 8% they will immediately cut employees.
Outsourcing to no benefit independent contractors will be far cheaper
than employees and using software or robots to do stuff will be much
more attractive than new employees. Obama is providing the incentive
to produce permanent unemployment above 10%. Even burger flippers
will be replaced by machines and all the Wal Mart greeters will be
replaced by cutesy "HelloKitty" style robots who will not require
bennies. Welcome to Obamanomics where only party members have jobs.
I refuse to hire and refuse to invest in Obama's Soros inspired
socialist economy.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Nov 6, 1:51 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Nov 6, 9:56 am, H the K wrote:

On 11/6/09 9:39 AM, Tosk wrote:

Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work.

No amount of "stimulous" will convince a real employer to hire a loser
like you, Ingersoll.

You should expect 12.5% unemployment by June 2010. Us employers have
gone on strike against the Obamination and his cronies who caused the
economic meltdown. As long as Dodd, Frank and Obama are still in
office or still have power, nobody will invest. At least Corzine who
benefited from the meltdown got kicked out.
So, you can either vote people out in the 2010 election or learn to
say "Welcome to WalMart".

Reply: Completely untrue. the unemployment rate will still climb slightly,
but as productivity increases at some point no significant gains can be
had
with current employees, orders (which are increasing) will force companies
to hire. The turning point should be mid-2010.

--
Nom=de=Plume

We should all feel so good, the second derivative is getting smaller,
ie the rate of increase is getting smaller. Note, unemployment is

Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to
reverse.

still getting larger and is far beyond anything Obama said would
happen under his porkulus that has done so much to cause
unemployment. Of course with his ideas on punishing small business by

The problems are pretty bad. The stimulus (started during Bush's tenure) did
make a difference on many things, including financial stability and job
loss.

hitting em with an 8% tax for not supplying health care, you can
expect unemployment to jump sharply if they pass this monstrosity.

A public option or stiff healthcare company regulations will lower costs.
Please show me where it says it would "punish" small business.

Most employers know they can do well with fewer employees and when
they consider this 8% they will immediately cut employees.

Up to a point, but then they'll need to expand if the company wants to grow.
This is basic economics.

Outsourcing to no benefit independent contractors will be far cheaper
than employees and using software or robots to do stuff will be much
more attractive than new employees. Obama is providing the incentive

Outsourcing has always been less expensive for non-core functions... at
least in modern times. That's no argument for or against HC reform, except
that independents would have affordable coverage available with a public
option.

to produce permanent unemployment above 10%. Even burger flippers
will be replaced by machines and all the Wal Mart greeters will be
replaced by cutesy "HelloKitty" style robots who will not require
bennies. Welcome to Obamanomics where only party members have jobs.

Totally ridiculous comment. Why don't you just start out with calling him a
socialist. Then, we wouldn't have to wade through the previous stuff.

I refuse to hire and refuse to invest in Obama's Soros inspired
socialist economy.

Feel free to move to whatever country would better represent your economic
views.

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Nom=de=Plume

On 11/6/09 2:16 PM, Frogwatch wrote:

I refuse to hire and refuse to invest in Obama's Soros inspired
socialist economy.

Of course, if your midget company had any work to do...

"SteveB" wrote in message
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"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf-
563122944.html?x=0&.v=8

But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault.

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104

When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and
responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying
if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting
undone what Bush did.

Before the campaign, all we heard was jobs, jobs, jobs. Now all we hear
about are how many jobs were created or "saved". Inflated imaginings are
what they are. And now we are all hearing about how many jobs this health
manifesto will create.

My question is: When?

Steve

The unemployment claims are dropping every month from a high of 700K to 190K
last month. I know this bothers you, but things are getting better, or
rather, the rate of unemployment is slowing.

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Nom=de=Plume