On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:15:40 -0500, Keith Nuttle
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog
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I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is
that there are valid national security issues at stake.
We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the
boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them.
NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job.
If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the
office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee
Freeze, why do you care?
The reality is they were only looking at international calls to
countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official
line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at
least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if
they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or
out..

Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them
were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a
mistake by stopping the investigations.

Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in
favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me.
You have misplaced priorities.

Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you.

Cheney has already irritated me and I want him to pay. It's not one
or the other. I want terrorists pursued and Cheney in prison.

All other investigations into corrupt Republican assholes can wait for
history.

BTW, according to Congresswoman Virginia Foxx, the health care plan is
more dangerous to the state of our country than any terrorist.

She's from your side of the aisle.

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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:42:12 -0800, jps wrote:

Cheney has already irritated me and I want him to pay.

Obama can chose. Pursue Cheney and spend the next 3 years having that
be the focus of his administration or do the other things he wants to
do.

I am old enough to remember a few of these witch hunts and I can say,
nothing else happened when they were going on.
With Nixon, the war dragged on 3 years longer than it needed to
With Clinton, the corporations and the bankers set up the apparatus to
loot the country.


Bush institutionalized the looting. Clinton didn't help the situation, but
he had limited control when the Rep. took over Congress. Reagan started it.

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:22:09 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:42:12 -0800, jps wrote:

Cheney has already irritated me and I want him to pay.

Obama can chose. Pursue Cheney and spend the next 3 years having that
be the focus of his administration or do the other things he wants to
do.

I am old enough to remember a few of these witch hunts and I can say,
nothing else happened when they were going on.
With Nixon, the war dragged on 3 years longer than it needed to
With Clinton, the corporations and the bankers set up the apparatus to
loot the country.


Bush institutionalized the looting. Clinton didn't help the situation, but
he had limited control when the Rep. took over Congress. Reagan started
it.

You can demonize Bush all you want, I won't stop you but you have to
know the enabling legislation was passed while we were all wondering
about blue dresses, cigars and little white lies. Now that you brought
it up, some of the other legislation that set the stage for this
looting happened while we were worried about what Oliver North was up
to.

There is nothing like a good scandal to divert our attention from what
is really important and to stop any real business going on that
benefits the country.

If Obama gets bogged down in some Cheney investigation, that will be
the only thing he will be doing.


Certainly true... I don't think Obama will get bogged down if the AG decides
to proceed. We need to hold everyone accountable for their acts.

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:12:24 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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If Obama gets bogged down in some Cheney investigation, that will be
the only thing he will be doing.


Certainly true... I don't think Obama will get bogged down if the AG
decides
to proceed. We need to hold everyone accountable for their acts.

If they actually go after a former vice president for policy decisions
made in office, the whole country will get bogged down.
Cheney will probably be dead of old age before they ever get out of
the discovery phase of his trial. There will be requests from both
sides for documents the government does not want to provide. The court
fight over that could take years.

And the payback will be the next administration will go after the last if a
different party. May not want to open that Pandora's Box.

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:12:24 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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If Obama gets bogged down in some Cheney investigation, that will be
the only thing he will be doing.


Certainly true... I don't think Obama will get bogged down if the AG
decides
to proceed. We need to hold everyone accountable for their acts.

If they actually go after a former vice president for policy decisions
made in office, the whole country will get bogged down.
Cheney will probably be dead of old age before they ever get out of
the discovery phase of his trial. There will be requests from both
sides for documents the government does not want to provide. The court
fight over that could take years.

And the payback will be the next administration will go after the last if
a different party. May not want to open that Pandora's Box.

If Obama should commit a criminal act while in office, he should be
prosecuted. No one is above the law.

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:12:24 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

If Obama gets bogged down in some Cheney investigation, that will be
the only thing he will be doing.


Certainly true... I don't think Obama will get bogged down if the AG
decides
to proceed. We need to hold everyone accountable for their acts.

If they actually go after a former vice president for policy decisions
made in office, the whole country will get bogged down.
Cheney will probably be dead of old age before they ever get out of
the discovery phase of his trial. There will be requests from both
sides for documents the government does not want to provide. The court
fight over that could take years.

And the payback will be the next administration will go after the last if
a different party. May not want to open that Pandora's Box.

If Obama should commit a criminal act while in office, he should be
prosecuted. No one is above the law.

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He will be impeached if a criminal act. What did Cheney do that is going to
get him jail time? The Pandora's Box will be there will be an investigation
every party change.

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:12:24 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

If Obama gets bogged down in some Cheney investigation, that will be
the only thing he will be doing.


Certainly true... I don't think Obama will get bogged down if the AG
decides
to proceed. We need to hold everyone accountable for their acts.

If they actually go after a former vice president for policy decisions
made in office, the whole country will get bogged down.
Cheney will probably be dead of old age before they ever get out of
the discovery phase of his trial. There will be requests from both
sides for documents the government does not want to provide. The court
fight over that could take years.

And the payback will be the next administration will go after the last
if a different party. May not want to open that Pandora's Box.

If Obama should commit a criminal act while in office, he should be
prosecuted. No one is above the law.

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Nom=de=Plume


He will be impeached if a criminal act. What did Cheney do that is going
to get him jail time? The Pandora's Box will be there will be an
investigation every party change.

Yes impeached or after he leaves office, prosecuted.

I'll leave you to your own research to look up Cheney's crimes against this
country.

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:12:24 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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If Obama gets bogged down in some Cheney investigation, that will be
the only thing he will be doing.


Certainly true... I don't think Obama will get bogged down if the AG
decides
to proceed. We need to hold everyone accountable for their acts.

If they actually go after a former vice president for policy decisions
made in office, the whole country will get bogged down.
Cheney will probably be dead of old age before they ever get out of
the discovery phase of his trial. There will be requests from both
sides for documents the government does not want to provide. The court
fight over that could take years.

And the payback will be the next administration will go after the last if a
different party. May not want to open that Pandora's Box.

Nope, Bush didn't go after Clinton, it's not the repub way.
Unfortunately or fortunately, the republicans are not willing to let out
classified info just to make politics as usual, criminal...

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On Nov 5, 1:04*am, Tosk wrote:
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:12:24 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

If Obama gets bogged down in some Cheney investigation, that will be
the only thing he will be doing.

Certainly true... I don't think Obama will get bogged down if the AG
decides
to proceed. We need to hold everyone accountable for their acts.

If they actually go after a former vice president for policy decisions
made in office, the whole country will get bogged down.
Cheney will probably be dead of old age before they ever get out of
the discovery phase of his trial. There will be requests from both
sides for documents the government does not want to provide. The court
fight over that could take years.

And the payback will be the next administration will go after the last if a
different party. *May not want to open that Pandora's Box.

Nope, Bush didn't go after Clinton, it's not the repub way.
Unfortunately or fortunately, the republicans are not willing to let out
classified info just to make politics as usual, criminal...

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Do you mean like blaming the terrorist activity that happened on
Bush's watch on Clinton? No, the Bush administration wouldn't do that,
would they?

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:12:24 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

If Obama gets bogged down in some Cheney investigation, that will be
the only thing he will be doing.


Certainly true... I don't think Obama will get bogged down if the AG
decides
to proceed. We need to hold everyone accountable for their acts.

If they actually go after a former vice president for policy decisions
made in office, the whole country will get bogged down.
Cheney will probably be dead of old age before they ever get out of
the discovery phase of his trial. There will be requests from both
sides for documents the government does not want to provide. The court
fight over that could take years.

And the payback will be the next administration will go after the last if
a
different party. May not want to open that Pandora's Box.

Nope, Bush didn't go after Clinton, it's not the repub way.
Unfortunately or fortunately, the republicans are not willing to let out
classified info just to make politics as usual, criminal...

--
Wafa free again.


That's true. Bush's cronies went after Clinton while he was still in office.

Unfortunately, you're being delusional if you think that people like Cheney
didn't leak classified information for their own purposes.

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