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"And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and
are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...nt/03gore.html |
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On Nov 3, 1:58*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore.... Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry about a year and a half later or so.... |
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On 11/3/09 7:25 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Nov 3, 1:58 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore.... Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry about a year and a half later or so.... And you understand this because you completed the 8th grade, right? |
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On Nov 3, 7:25*am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote: On Nov 3, 1:58*am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore.... Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry about a year and a half later or so.... Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? |
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On 11/3/09 8:59 AM, Tosk wrote:
In article27f68d78-3f3c-402a-8719-b5104d433cf7 @c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says... On Nov 3, 7:25 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Nov 3, 1:58 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore.... Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry about a year and a half later or so.... Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? Doesn't, it's my opinion. Al Gore has been milking this for years while preaching to us, and living like a self indulgent king... Your opinion? You are an ill-educated moron. Why is your opinion on a scientific matter relevant |
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:31:41 -0500, H the K
wrote: On 11/3/09 7:25 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote: On Nov 3, 1:58 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore.... Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry about a year and a half later or so.... And you understand this because you completed the 8th grade, right? Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry? The tin has leaked into the skull. Maybe he should take the hat off at night. |
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:02:03 -0500, H the K
wrote: On 11/3/09 8:59 AM, Tosk wrote: In article27f68d78-3f3c-402a-8719-b5104d433cf7 @c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says... On Nov 3, 7:25 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Nov 3, 1:58 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore.... Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry about a year and a half later or so.... Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? Doesn't, it's my opinion. Al Gore has been milking this for years while preaching to us, and living like a self indulgent king... Your opinion? You are an ill-educated moron. Why is your opinion on a scientific matter relevant Self-indulgent king? Al Gore? Enron, Countrywide, Adelphia, Global Crossing, Worldcom, Goldman Sachs, Lehman, Washington Mutual, etc., etc., etc. Most of 'em Republican pigs. He picks Al Gore as the self-indulgent king? ****ing idiot. |
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Tosk wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:48:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it. Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars, ZPG or whatever) Exactly, it's the same one world crowd.. Remember the first "Earth Day" back in the 70's? I do, we were headed for the next ice age...snerk. THAT'S your justification for ignoring science concerning global warming???? |
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says... Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:48:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it. Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars, ZPG or whatever) Exactly, it's the same one world crowd.. Remember the first "Earth Day" back in the 70's? I do, we were headed for the next ice age...snerk. THAT'S your justification for ignoring science concerning global warming???? What I am saying is the science seems to start with an agenda and get built from that starting point.. -- Wafa free again. |
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On 11/3/09 12:36 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:31:41 -0500, H the K wrote: On 11/3/09 7:25 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote: On Nov 3, 1:58 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore.... Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry about a year and a half later or so.... And you understand this because you completed the 8th grade, right? Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry? The tin has leaked into the skull. Maybe he should take the hat off at night. Yes, we've been chipless since 2000...didn't you know? :) There's no more chip industry. He'd have to remove the doo-rag, too. And if he did that, his greasy hair would be getting into everything. |
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On 11/3/09 12:49 PM, Tosk wrote:
In , says... Tosk wrote: In , says... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:48:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it. Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars, ZPG or whatever) Exactly, it's the same one world crowd.. Remember the first "Earth Day" back in the 70's? I do, we were headed for the next ice age...snerk. THAT'S your justification for ignoring science concerning global warming???? What I am saying is the science seems to start with an agenda and get built from that starting point.. It takes someone with an incomplete, crappy education to deny the scientific method and Experimentum crucis. That someone: Tosk Ingersoll. |
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On Nov 3, 1:43*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:48:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it. Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars, ZPG or whatever) You mean like not using Freon? That actually worked, and the ozone hole has been greatly reduced. FYI, a woman's effort. -- Nom=de=Plume Quit now. There is scientific research to back that up, and a lot of conservatives just don't like that. They just need a talking head to tell them that that isn't the case. |
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:58:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...nt/03gore.html I guess it's easier for a liberal to pretend it's not a scam then to admit to the possibility that he (or she) may have been wrong. Just think. This is the *NEW YORK TIMES* publishing this, not the Washington Times, Harry's favorite paper. |
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:48:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote: On Nov 3, 7:25*am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Nov 3, 1:58*am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore.... Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry about a year and a half later or so.... Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? We're discussing anthropogenic global warming, the non-existent variety. Maybe one day you'll understand the difference, and why the scam is making folks like Gore, et al (mostly Democrats) very rich. |
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:44:51 -0800, jps wrote:
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:02:03 -0500, H the K wrote: On 11/3/09 8:59 AM, Tosk wrote: In article27f68d78-3f3c-402a-8719-b5104d433cf7 @c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says... On Nov 3, 7:25 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Nov 3, 1:58 am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore.... Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry about a year and a half later or so.... Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? Doesn't, it's my opinion. Al Gore has been milking this for years while preaching to us, and living like a self indulgent king... Your opinion? You are an ill-educated moron. Why is your opinion on a scientific matter relevant Self-indulgent king? Al Gore? Enron, Countrywide, Adelphia, Global Crossing, Worldcom, Goldman Sachs, Lehman, Washington Mutual, etc., etc., etc. Most of 'em Republican pigs. He picks Al Gore as the self-indulgent king? ****ing idiot. Watch for HK's sharp turns! |
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On Nov 3, 4:33*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:48:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: On Nov 3, 7:25*am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: On Nov 3, 1:58*am, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore..... Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry about a year and a half later or so.... Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? We're discussing anthropogenic global warming, the non-existent variety. Maybe one day you'll understand the difference, and why the scam is making folks like Gore, et al (mostly Democrats) very rich.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Again, where does it say in the article that global warming doesn't exist? So, despite reams and reams of data proving otherwise, you still would rather believe what the RNC tells you as opposed to what scientists are telling you? |
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:45:45 -0500, NotNow wrote:
Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:48:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it. Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars, ZPG or whatever) Exactly, it's the same one world crowd.. Remember the first "Earth Day" back in the 70's? I do, we were headed for the next ice age...snerk. THAT'S your justification for ignoring science concerning global warming???? anthropogenic??? That's where Gore, et al, (including Obama) are making their money. |
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On Nov 3, 4:34*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:44:51 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:02:03 -0500, H the K wrote: On 11/3/09 8:59 AM, Tosk wrote: In article27f68d78-3f3c-402a-8719-b5104d433cf7 @c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says... On Nov 3, 7:25 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" *wrote: On Nov 3, 1:58 am, Tom Francis - SWSports *wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore.... Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry about a year and a half later or so.... Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? Doesn't, it's my opinion. Al Gore has been milking this for years while preaching to us, and living like a self indulgent king... Your opinion? You are an ill-educated moron. Why is your opinion on a scientific matter relevant Self-indulgent king? *Al Gore? *Enron, Countrywide, Adelphia, Global Crossing, Worldcom, Goldman Sachs, Lehman, Washington Mutual, etc., etc., etc. Most of 'em Republican pigs. He picks Al Gore as the self-indulgent king? ****ing idiot. Watch for HK's sharp turns!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's not his nose, that's his trailer hitch, and Harry's the hauler!! |
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:56:01 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote: On Nov 3, 1:43*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:48:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it. Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars, ZPG or whatever) You mean like not using Freon? That actually worked, and the ozone hole has been greatly reduced. FYI, a woman's effort. -- Nom=de=Plume Quit now. There is scientific research to back that up, and a lot of conservatives just don't like that. They just need a talking head to tell them that that isn't the case. Team up with the Plum. That'll help your credibility. |
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... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:43:53 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it. Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars, ZPG or whatever) You mean like not using Freon? That actually worked, and the ozone hole has been greatly reduced. FYI, a woman's effort. What nobody says is they made more freon after the "ban" than they had before it. China never stopped and they made close to a billion R-12 (the worst stuff) refrigerators after the ban. Mexico was still selling R-12 for many years after the ban (and probably still are) A few years ago I read an article about the gray market in it. You can still get R-22 but the end of US manufacture is this year I believe. A rational person who actually understands how much freon was made and released would have to say that ozone hole was a natural cycle that cycled the other way ... all by itself. Well, it looks like the Nobel committee was wrong yet again, as three scientists were awarded the prize in chemistry for the theory. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 11/3/09 5:49 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:43:53 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it. Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars, ZPG or whatever) You mean like not using Freon? That actually worked, and the ozone hole has been greatly reduced. FYI, a woman's effort. What nobody says is they made more freon after the "ban" than they had before it. China never stopped and they made close to a billion R-12 (the worst stuff) refrigerators after the ban. Mexico was still selling R-12 for many years after the ban (and probably still are) A few years ago I read an article about the gray market in it. You can still get R-22 but the end of US manufacture is this year I believe. A rational person who actually understands how much freon was made and released would have to say that ozone hole was a natural cycle that cycled the other way ... all by itself. Well, it looks like the Nobel committee was wrong yet again, as three scientists were awarded the prize in chemistry for the theory. Careful now...righties don't believe in the Nobel prizes. |
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:45:37 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:34:01 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:10:33 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:51:53 -0500, H the K wrote: The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it. Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars, ZPG or whatever) Higher gas taxes, eating less meat, driving smaller cars and controlling population would benefit all of us, whatever the motivation. So sell it that way and stop making up lies that this will stop global climate change in any way at all. It is like the Iraq war. If we had just said at the outset, this was to stop an Iraqi/Isreali war, we could have made a rational decision. As it was we had a lie, compounded by obfuscation and denial. It certainly had noting to do with oil but that was what the left said. (Saddam would have been more than happy to sell us oil at a bargain price) The right talked about direct threats to the US and that is BS too. Huh? Dick Cheney and George Bush in office and it had nothing to do with oil? It was to prevent Israel going to war with Saddam? Over what, Saddam's payments to jihadists? You've got to be kidding... We went to war with Saddam so Israel wouldn't attack them ... again. (you do remember that?) I remember that in the litany of excuses about why we were there. I don't understand why you didn't pick any of the others? WMD, drones, Winnebagos, Terrorist training camps, the poor trampled Iraqi masses, mass graves, nuclear weapons materials, yellowcake, tubes, etc. Why isn't the big pool of oil under the country your focus. They knew Saddam was hobbled. They knew the country would be taken over by Iran if someone didn't fill the void first. Kissinger has been telling every administration for four decades to go in and occupy the mid-east so no one else gets their hands on that oil. You assume it's because we were protecting Israel from getting their hands dirty? That dog won't hunt. We are threatening Iran right now for exactly the same reason. If we don't stop their nuclear program Israel will. We are not acting as surrogates for Israel. They will act on their own as the need dictates, as we've seen many times before. They may seek our approval but they will move on their own as needed. Saddam would have sold us cheap oil forever. Not if he lost control of the country. The problem is he would have used the money to buy arms to fight Israel with. Baloney. He was our stooge and all he wanted was more oil. As long as he was just fighting with Iran we were in love with him. The writing was on the wall. The embargos had weakened him. He was on his knees and lots inside and out of his circle knew it. You think neither the US nor Iran knew it? Don't fool yourself. While you are looking up the Israeli attack on Saddams nuclear plant, look up Gerald Bull. I'll do that. |
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In article ,
says... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:56:01 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: On Nov 3, 1:43*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:48:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker wrote: Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening and is a scam? The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it. Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars, ZPG or whatever) You mean like not using Freon? That actually worked, and the ozone hole has been greatly reduced. FYI, a woman's effort. -- Nom=de=Plume Quit now. There is scientific research to back that up, and a lot of conservatives just don't like that. They just need a talking head to tell them that that isn't the case. Team up with the Plum. That'll help your credibility. You just keep talking like there is only two people against it, this is just not true. It is just plain stupid for laymen like us to definitively say, "my scientists are right, yours are wrong". Here, at least skim through this one.. http://www.tulsabeacon.com/?p=462 Then, tell me "my scientists are better than yours.... It is not settled science, even if "your" talking heads say so... -- Wafa free again. |
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says... On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:07:49 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:48:14 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:36:46 -0800, jps wrote: Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry? I agree, Y2K was one of the best things that happened to the computer industry. Lots of people who only needed a little software patch, bought a new machine. Most of them would have been just fine if they simply rebooted their machine in the morning and set the date. I knew folks close to the action at Microsoft and they were freaked out that air guidance systems were going to crash. I'm sure it was blown out of proportion and there was certainly a lot of work generated for cobol and fortran programmers. I did not know anyone at IBM who took it seriously at all. Certainly there was a lot of code that had to be changed but only for people who had not updated their system in the early 90s. When I retired in 1996 we had already done Y2K compliance in our systems as part of the ISO9000 fad. The IBM AT system (286 PC) was Y2K compliant. dBase IV also was and that was a 1991? program. I found the old PC a while ago that I had on my desk when I retired and that has not run since 1996. Just for grins I cranked up the mirror of my parts inventory system I wrote in 1992 and it ran just fine when I plugged in a part usage in 2009. It whined a little that I had that part sitting stocked and unused for 13 years ;-) I bet China made a mint with Al Gores first big hoax on America...;) -- Wafa free again. |
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:09:49 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:11:23 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:55:12 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:43:53 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it. Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars, ZPG or whatever) You mean like not using Freon? That actually worked, and the ozone hole has been greatly reduced. FYI, a woman's effort. What nobody says is they made more freon after the "ban" than they had before it. China never stopped and they made close to a billion R-12 (the worst stuff) refrigerators after the ban. Mexico was still selling R-12 for many years after the ban (and probably still are) A few years ago I read an article about the gray market in it. You can still get R-22 but the end of US manufacture is this year I believe. A rational person who actually understands how much freon was made and released would have to say that ozone hole was a natural cycle that cycled the other way ... all by itself. Maybe it wasn't what was being produced contemporaneously, but what had already been produced, distributed, stockpiled and leaking into the air. Freon is still being produced, stockpiled and leaked into the air. That stuff that was already here in 1997 was still here and I bet less than 10% of it ever got recycled. Most ended up being vented when the garbage truck crushed the appliance. I know that is what happened to my old AC unit. They made a big deal about the freon and how I had to call for a special pickup, then a claw truck came by, grabbed it and smashed it right there at the curb. They did the same thing to my old fridge. You sure can't say Montreal had anything to do with the ozone hole closing up. I fear "global warming" will be another thing just like that. How many times do you respond to cries of "wolf" But that's happening less frequently every day, since the day they began winding down it's production from the peak. With replacements available, the need for freon has declined. |
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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:58:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: "And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...nt/03gore.html I guess it's easier for a liberal to pretend it's not a scam then to admit to the possibility that he (or she) may have been wrong. Just think. This is the *NEW YORK TIMES* publishing this, not the Washington Times, Harry's favorite paper. If global warming is nothing but a scam, how come there is SO much scientific data that it is, indeed occuring? |
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