On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:53:14 -0700, jps wrote:



You're leaving out an important tenet of the liberal message. Those
wages should be living wages and come with the same benefits and
security they would in a civilized nation such as ours. IOW, it'd be
a good deal more expensive to take those jobs and distribute them to
the lowest bidder if the quotient included bennies.

Yeah, but it hasn't worked out that way with NAFTA and Mexico.
And that's basically unenforceable.
How many liberals who believe in that are wearing Nikes made in Asian
child-labor sweatshops.
It's bull****, and like I said. Fairyland.
You take care of your own first, then worry about others.
Ideals are one thing, facts another.

--Vic

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:11:38 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:53:14 -0700, jps wrote:



You're leaving out an important tenet of the liberal message. Those
wages should be living wages and come with the same benefits and
security they would in a civilized nation such as ours. IOW, it'd be
a good deal more expensive to take those jobs and distribute them to
the lowest bidder if the quotient included bennies.

Yeah, but it hasn't worked out that way with NAFTA and Mexico.
And that's basically unenforceable.

Went down the wrong road. It's the thing I like least about Clinton's
time in office, among others. Monica I can handle, WTO is a giant
screw job. Jobs were already in Mexico and have been leaking there
for decades. Supporting the wholesale abdication of manufacturing in
the US was a giant mistake. That's been in process for decades too.

How many liberals who believe in that are wearing Nikes made in Asian
child-labor sweatshops.

I wear Brooks, which are likely made in some Asian country. I've
become much more aware of purchasing US made products in the last
several years. I look at everything now.

It's bull****, and like I said. Fairyland.
You take care of your own first, then worry about others.
Ideals are one thing, facts another.

Understood and I agree. The jerks who support gloabalism accuse
anyone who wants to protect our manufacturing base and protectionists
and isolationists who will hasten our departure from the world
community. China will want to call its loans.

Bottom line, we're screwed. How the hell does this country regain
even a small percentage of what we've given away?


--Vic