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Loogypicker[_2_] October 26th 09 04:10 PM

It's great to no longer...
 
On Oct 26, 11:55*am, Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 26, 11:27 am, Tosk wrote:
In article e353cb62-c9c6-4cad-9329-
,
says...


On Oct 25, 7:55 pm, Tosk wrote:
In article aeaf68cb-b49a-4aa0-bbea-2cbff61c3a24
@l34g2000vba.googlegroups.com, says...
On Oct 24, 6:29 pm, Tosk wrote:
In article 7aed2ec8-fffe-4050-b159-07417cc78500
@m11g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...
On Oct 24, 4:05 pm, H the K wrote:
...have an idiot as president and a criminal as vice president:
http://tinyurl.com/yhc57ex
Photos.
Yeah, now we have a moron for president and a clown for veep.
Or an idiot for veep and a crim for pres..
What crime has Obama ever been convicted of in a court of law? For
that matter, what has he ever been charged with?
It's the company you keep. I would ask you the same question about
Bush... Then I would follow with which one has more friends that have
been convicted, jailed, in respect to crimes...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So if someone knows someone who's committed a crime, they are
automatically guilty of crimes themselves?????
I was just making a point. If Obama can't be tarred with the brush of
his friends just because he hasn't been convicted of a crime, neither
can Bush or Cheney...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Bush HAS been convicted of crimes before. He was convicted of drunk
driving and THEN lied repeatedly to cover it up.


And Cheney has been convicted TWICE of drunk driving:


Court and police records obtained by The Smoking Gun show that Cheney
was convicted of drunk driving twice during an eight-month period in
the early 1960s in his home state of Wyoming. The two convictions came
when Cheney was 21 and 22 and resulted in fines and a brief suspension
of his driver's license.


On November 2, in the wake of the Bush DWI discovery, a Cheney
spokesperson told reporters that the vice presidential candidate also
had a rap sheet. But the Bush-Cheney campaign refused to provide any
further details about the DWI busts. So TSG will now handle that
chore.


Have you checked out Krause's rap sheet?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, I know that he's a convicted sexual predator and pedophile, if
that's what you mean!

Jim October 26th 09 04:13 PM

It's great to no longer...
 
Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 26, 11:55 am, Jim wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 26, 11:27 am, Tosk wrote:
In article e353cb62-c9c6-4cad-9329-
,
says...
On Oct 25, 7:55 pm, Tosk wrote:
In article aeaf68cb-b49a-4aa0-bbea-2cbff61c3a24
@l34g2000vba.googlegroups.com, says...
On Oct 24, 6:29 pm, Tosk wrote:
In article 7aed2ec8-fffe-4050-b159-07417cc78500
@m11g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...
On Oct 24, 4:05 pm, H the K wrote:
...have an idiot as president and a criminal as vice president:
http://tinyurl.com/yhc57ex
Photos.
Yeah, now we have a moron for president and a clown for veep.
Or an idiot for veep and a crim for pres..
What crime has Obama ever been convicted of in a court of law? For
that matter, what has he ever been charged with?
It's the company you keep. I would ask you the same question about
Bush... Then I would follow with which one has more friends that have
been convicted, jailed, in respect to crimes...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So if someone knows someone who's committed a crime, they are
automatically guilty of crimes themselves?????
I was just making a point. If Obama can't be tarred with the brush of
his friends just because he hasn't been convicted of a crime, neither
can Bush or Cheney...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Bush HAS been convicted of crimes before. He was convicted of drunk
driving and THEN lied repeatedly to cover it up.
And Cheney has been convicted TWICE of drunk driving:
Court and police records obtained by The Smoking Gun show that Cheney
was convicted of drunk driving twice during an eight-month period in
the early 1960s in his home state of Wyoming. The two convictions came
when Cheney was 21 and 22 and resulted in fines and a brief suspension
of his driver's license.
On November 2, in the wake of the Bush DWI discovery, a Cheney
spokesperson told reporters that the vice presidential candidate also
had a rap sheet. But the Bush-Cheney campaign refused to provide any
further details about the DWI busts. So TSG will now handle that
chore.

Have you checked out Krause's rap sheet?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, I know that he's a convicted sexual predator and pedophile, if
that's what you mean!

Just want to make sure you know who you are dealing with here.

John H.[_9_] October 26th 09 07:18 PM

It's great to no longer...
 
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:21:20 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Oct 25, 9:20*pm, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:50:37 -0700 (PDT),Loogypicker





wrote:
On Oct 24, 6:29*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article 7aed2ec8-fffe-4050-b159-07417cc78500
@m11g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...


On Oct 24, 4:05*pm, H the K wrote:
...have an idiot as president and a criminal as vice president:


http://tinyurl.com/yhc57ex


Photos.


Yeah, now we have a moron for president and a clown for veep.


Or an idiot for veep and a crim for pres..


What crime has Obama ever been convicted of in a court of law? For
that matter, what has he ever been charged with?




Loogy, is it your belief that no crime has ever been committed by one
who wasn't charged or convicted?


No, but I don't go around accusing someone of commiting a crime
without evidence of such. Harry does that, too you know.

I would bet there's been some crimes committed right there in Atlanta
for which no one has been charged or convicted.


But does that mean that you blame a specific person for those crimes
without evidence of such?

I personally think the attempts to stifle a free press are criminal
activities, don't you?


Are you talking about Bush?:

Imprisoning journalists

Other than the fact that the President believes that he has the power
to break the law and has been continuously exercising that power, the
issue about which I've written most on this blog is the sweeping and
dangerous attacks by this administration on investigative journalism.
Those two issues are quite related, as the latter is intended to
conceal and thus enable the former.

The administration's assault on a free and vital press took a huge
leap forward this weekend, when Attorney General Alberto Gonazles
announced on national television that the Bush administration has the
power to imprison journalists who publish stories revealing conduct by
the President which the administration wants to conceal (such as the
warrantless NSA eavesdropping program, which he specifically cited).
Gonazles went further and made clear that the administration is
actively considering prosecution against journalists who publish such
stories.


Journalists who divulge classified information should be jailed.

Citing 'crimes' committed by Bush as justification for the criminal
behavior of Obama is the 'Bush Rationale'. It doesn't make Obama
innocent.

John H.[_9_] October 26th 09 07:20 PM

It's great to no longer...
 
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:43:39 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Oct 26, 11:26*am, Tosk wrote:
In article fd64f073-8eb4-4d46-89c9-



There's more to Bush's efforts to gag the press:

Thin skinned: Bush tries to stifle his critics
One of the most disturbing things about Bush is that he consistently
snipped


Again, Bush's transgressions, real or imagined have NO FRIGGIN'
BEARING ON OBAMA'S.

Jim October 26th 09 08:58 PM

It's great to no longer...
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:43:39 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Oct 26, 11:26 am, Tosk wrote:
In article fd64f073-8eb4-4d46-89c9-


There's more to Bush's efforts to gag the press:

Thin skinned: Bush tries to stifle his critics
One of the most disturbing things about Bush is that he consistently
snipped


Again, Bush's transgressions, real or imagined have NO FRIGGIN'
BEARING ON OBAMA'S.



Absolutly. O'Bama's transgressions stand on their own legs.
Can we get an amen?

John H.[_9_] October 26th 09 11:41 PM

It's great to no longer...
 
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:58:02 -0400, Jim wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:43:39 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Oct 26, 11:26 am, Tosk wrote:
In article fd64f073-8eb4-4d46-89c9-


There's more to Bush's efforts to gag the press:

Thin skinned: Bush tries to stifle his critics
One of the most disturbing things about Bush is that he consistently
snipped


Again, Bush's transgressions, real or imagined have NO FRIGGIN'
BEARING ON OBAMA'S.



Absolutly. O'Bama's transgressions stand on their own legs.
Can we get an amen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JSqV...eature=related

thunder October 27th 09 11:27 AM

It's great to no longer...
 
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:18:04 -0400, John H. wrote:


Journalists who divulge classified information should be jailed.


On what charge? The First Amendment is very clear about freedom of the
press. Funny, in the entire Constitution I can't find anything in it
about "classified" information. There's a reason for that.

If you truly believe journalists should be jailed for publishing
classified information, you really should consider a more appropriate
country for your ideological bent. China, perhaps?

Loogypicker[_2_] October 27th 09 12:58 PM

It's great to no longer...
 
On Oct 26, 3:20*pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:43:39 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker

wrote:
On Oct 26, 11:26*am, Tosk wrote:
In article fd64f073-8eb4-4d46-89c9-


There's more to Bush's efforts to gag the press:


Thin skinned: Bush tries to stifle his critics
One of the most disturbing things about Bush is that he consistently
snipped


Again, Bush's transgressions, real or imagined have NO FRIGGIN'
BEARING ON OBAMA'S.


Never heard of Case Law, huh?

Loogypicker[_2_] October 27th 09 12:58 PM

It's great to no longer...
 
On Oct 26, 3:18*pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:21:20 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Oct 25, 9:20*pm, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:50:37 -0700 (PDT),Loogypicker


wrote:
On Oct 24, 6:29*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article 7aed2ec8-fffe-4050-b159-07417cc78500
@m11g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...


On Oct 24, 4:05*pm, H the K wrote:
...have an idiot as president and a criminal as vice president:


http://tinyurl.com/yhc57ex


Photos.


Yeah, now we have a moron for president and a clown for veep.


Or an idiot for veep and a crim for pres..


What crime has Obama ever been convicted of in a court of law? For
that matter, what has he ever been charged with?


Loogy, is it your belief that no crime has ever been committed by one
who wasn't charged or convicted?


No, but I don't go around accusing someone of commiting a crime
without evidence of such. Harry does that, too you know.


I would bet there's been some crimes committed right there in Atlanta
for which no one has been charged or convicted.


But does that mean that you blame a specific person for those crimes
without evidence of such?


I personally think the attempts to stifle a free press are criminal
activities, don't you?


Are you talking about Bush?:


Imprisoning journalists


Other than the fact that the President believes that he has the power
to break the law and has been continuously exercising that power, the
issue about which I've written most on this blog is the sweeping and
dangerous attacks by this administration on investigative journalism.
Those two issues are quite related, as the latter is intended to
conceal and thus enable the former.


The administration's assault on a free and vital press took a huge
leap forward this weekend, when Attorney General Alberto Gonazles
announced on national television that the Bush administration has the
power to imprison journalists who publish stories revealing conduct by
the President which the administration wants to conceal (such as the
warrantless NSA eavesdropping program, which he specifically cited).
Gonazles went further and made clear that the administration is
actively considering prosecution against journalists who publish such
stories.


Journalists who divulge classified information should be jailed.

Citing 'crimes' committed by Bush as justification for the criminal
behavior of Obama is the 'Bush Rationale'. It doesn't make Obama
innocent.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That's odd. It happens all of the time in courts of law. Case history.

thunder October 27th 09 06:24 PM

It's great to no longer...
 
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:10:21 -0400, gfretwell wrote:

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:27:34 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:18:04 -0400, John H. wrote:


Journalists who divulge classified information should be jailed.


On what charge? The First Amendment is very clear about freedom of the
press. Funny, in the entire Constitution I can't find anything in it
about "classified" information. There's a reason for that.

If you truly believe journalists should be jailed for publishing
classified information, you really should consider a more appropriate
country for your ideological bent. China, perhaps?


Or UK? The commie *******s have an official secrets act. ;-)

BTW before the Pentagon Papers case you could go to jail here for
publishing secrets. Without that law we probably would have lost WWII,
we really haven't won a war since. Coincidence? maybe.


Leaking classified information is illegal. Publishing classified
information hasn't been.

http://www.acslaw.org/node/11305


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