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news  On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:36:50 -0700, jps wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:41:48 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:53:02 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:31:23 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:19:19 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:35:13 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:23:01 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:04:26 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:47:45 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:36:10 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:33:42 -0700, jps wrote: snipped That woman looked like she was experiencing the onset of an anal outburst. I love Al and I love Alan Grayson. What's with Dems named Al? I love Al Gore too, apart from how he runs campaigns. How is it possible for a person to "love" any politician? (It seems to be a sickening fetish similar to necrophilia.) Love doesn't exist on your end of the political spectrum, unless you count money. You consider that a reasonable declaration? On a primal, nascent level, I suspect that you don't really know what "love" is. You and most others in this NG don't display "love" in any sense of the word. What do you find wrong with it? Even "compassionate conservatives" send fellow citizens to war based on known false information. The only love the conservative movement displays is tough love, as in "pull yourself up by your bootstraps cause there ain't nobody who gives a **** once you're born." I'm sure there's so much love to spread around on Sundays and then Monday it's back to screwing others for your own. Didn't you say you were in the insurance business? I'm in the IT business, too. I also volunteer to help special-needs persons - this, without compensation, reward, or to assauge any speculated, deep-seated feelings of guilt. I have and do assist persons that most other people would avoid by walking on the other side of the street. (Do you do the same?) I'll return to a question I have asked of you before, which you failed to answer in any reasonable manner. Who are you to judge another? (And I'll wager that I'm compensated annually less than you are. I'll also wager that my income stream is less than yours.) Good for you!!! Weren't we talking about love and party affiliation? Are you a compassionate conservative and did you support GW Bush's pre-emptive war of choice? What percentage of the folks who "avoid" your friends do you suppose are Republicans? I'd expect it to be larger by at least the weight of a six pack or two. How much "love" do you have, jps? Do you volunteer your time for the unfortunate, the dispossessed, the disaffected, the pariah of our society? Or do you defer to "government" to do your lovin' for ya? Let's see the love, dude! Changing the subject. I'd be pleased to discuss my efforts towards the benefits of mankind but you haven't favored me with any real answers yet. So why should I invest in your inquiry when you haven't invested in mine? This is how it normally goes with you. I think a review of who first toke the path less relevant would yeild a contrary result. What is apparent to the sensible reader is that your declarations are far removed from reality, are not representative of the truth, and that by design. You are a propagandist and you are a minor one at that. You're traipsing around with your basket of radical blubs in remote newsgroups, far from the big-lights that the more notorious radicals, such as Michael Moore, enjoy. I'm sure your family understands you. "toke the path"? I was bleary-eyed last night. I would recommend that you avoid reading C.S. Lewis' "The Abolition of Man" if you have problems comprehending what I write. Then again, I suspect that if you or HK were able to comprehend "The Abolition of Man," any acerbic and witty rebuttal that either of you issued against it would fall as short as all of your other lackluster "blurbs." I don't recall reading this CS Lewis book, but I really enjoyed the space trilogy, and I most enjoyed (and remember) Out of the Silent Planet (apologies to Harry... it's just a coincidence). EM -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:30:40 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: snipped for the salvation of bandwidth I'm in the IT business, too. I also volunteer to help special-needs persons - this, without compensation, reward, or to assauge any speculated, deep-seated feelings of guilt. I have and do assist persons that most other people would avoid by walking on the other side of the street. (Do you do the same?) I'll return to a question I have asked of you before, which you failed to answer in any reasonable manner. Who are you to judge another? (And I'll wager that I'm compensated annually less than you are. I'll also wager that my income stream is less than yours.) Good for you!!! Weren't we talking about love and party affiliation? Are you a compassionate conservative and did you support GW Bush's pre-emptive war of choice? What percentage of the folks who "avoid" your friends do you suppose are Republicans? I'd expect it to be larger by at least the weight of a six pack or two. How much "love" do you have, jps? Do you volunteer your time for the unfortunate, the dispossessed, the disaffected, the pariah of our society? Or do you defer to "government" to do your lovin' for ya? Let's see the love, dude! Changing the subject. I'd be pleased to discuss my efforts towards the benefits of mankind but you haven't favored me with any real answers yet. So why should I invest in your inquiry when you haven't invested in mine? This is how it normally goes with you. I think a review of who first toke the path less relevant would yeild a contrary result. What is apparent to the sensible reader is that your declarations are far removed from reality, are not representative of the truth, and that by design. You are a propagandist and you are a minor one at that. You're traipsing around with your basket of radical blubs in remote newsgroups, far from the big-lights that the more notorious radicals, such as Michael Moore, enjoy. I'm sure your family understands you. "toke the path"? I was bleary-eyed last night. I would recommend that you avoid reading C.S. Lewis' "The Abolition of Man" if you have problems comprehending what I write. Then again, I suspect that if you or HK were able to comprehend "The Abolition of Man," any acerbic and witty rebuttal that either of you issued against it would fall as short as all of your other lackluster "blurbs." I don't recall reading this CS Lewis book, but I really enjoyed the space trilogy, and I most enjoyed (and remember) Out of the Silent Planet (apologies to Harry... it's just a coincidence). EM It's more of a philosophical work, em. I haven't read much of C.S. Lewis fiction (one Narnia novel and "The Screwtape Letters," an epistolary). I've read more of his religious and philosophical works, the most difficult to negotiate being "The Abolition of Man," and the most poignant being, imo, "The Problem of Pain." The man was an estimable apologist. And I may be being a bit brutal in this opinion; but, I doubt that either JPS or H the K possess the prowess or acumen to fully absorb it, considering their respectively unremarkable intellectual demonstrations in this NG. That's why the most you'll see from either in a criticism of his work is a "pithy" blurb. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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... On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:01:53 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:30:40 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: snipped for the salvation of bandwidth I'm in the IT business, too. I also volunteer to help special-needs persons - this, without compensation, reward, or to assauge any speculated, deep-seated feelings of guilt. I have and do assist persons that most other people would avoid by walking on the other side of the street. (Do you do the same?) I'll return to a question I have asked of you before, which you failed to answer in any reasonable manner. Who are you to judge another? (And I'll wager that I'm compensated annually less than you are. I'll also wager that my income stream is less than yours.) Good for you!!! Weren't we talking about love and party affiliation? Are you a compassionate conservative and did you support GW Bush's pre-emptive war of choice? What percentage of the folks who "avoid" your friends do you suppose are Republicans? I'd expect it to be larger by at least the weight of a six pack or two. How much "love" do you have, jps? Do you volunteer your time for the unfortunate, the dispossessed, the disaffected, the pariah of our society? Or do you defer to "government" to do your lovin' for ya? Let's see the love, dude! Changing the subject. I'd be pleased to discuss my efforts towards the benefits of mankind but you haven't favored me with any real answers yet. So why should I invest in your inquiry when you haven't invested in mine? This is how it normally goes with you. I think a review of who first toke the path less relevant would yeild a contrary result. What is apparent to the sensible reader is that your declarations are far removed from reality, are not representative of the truth, and that by design. You are a propagandist and you are a minor one at that. You're traipsing around with your basket of radical blubs in remote newsgroups, far from the big-lights that the more notorious radicals, such as Michael Moore, enjoy. I'm sure your family understands you. "toke the path"? I was bleary-eyed last night. I would recommend that you avoid reading C.S. Lewis' "The Abolition of Man" if you have problems comprehending what I write. Then again, I suspect that if you or HK were able to comprehend "The Abolition of Man," any acerbic and witty rebuttal that either of you issued against it would fall as short as all of your other lackluster "blurbs." I don't recall reading this CS Lewis book, but I really enjoyed the space trilogy, and I most enjoyed (and remember) Out of the Silent Planet (apologies to Harry... it's just a coincidence). EM It's more of a philosophical work, em. I haven't read much of C.S. Lewis fiction (one Narnia novel and "The Screwtape Letters," an epistolary). I've read more of his religious and philosophical works, the most difficult to negotiate being "The Abolition of Man," and the most poignant being, imo, "The Problem of Pain." The man was an estimable apologist. And I may be being a bit brutal in this opinion; but, I doubt that either JPS or H the K possess the prowess or acumen to fully absorb it, considering their respectively unremarkable intellectual demonstrations in this NG. That's why the most you'll see from either in a criticism of his work is a "pithy" blurb. I had wanted to add, too, Em, that "The Problem of Pain" is a bit of an exercise in theodicy. It's worth a read, even for those that don't subscribe to any faith in particular. Sometimes, I don't mind a pithy response.  I can understand God's goodness in the face of many things (all things I suppose), but I don't subscribe to the notion of evil (this puts me at odds with lots of religious people of course). I guess I've struggled with this for a long while, but I've concluded that there doesn't have to be the duality of good and evil for good to exist. Bad certainly exists, but I don't believe in evil. Even bad people can be do good in select circumstances. Certainly, the reverse is true. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:28:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:01:53 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:30:40 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: snipped for the salvation of bandwidth I'm in the IT business, too. I also volunteer to help special-needs persons - this, without compensation, reward, or to assauge any speculated, deep-seated feelings of guilt. I have and do assist persons that most other people would avoid by walking on the other side of the street. (Do you do the same?) I'll return to a question I have asked of you before, which you failed to answer in any reasonable manner. Who are you to judge another? (And I'll wager that I'm compensated annually less than you are. I'll also wager that my income stream is less than yours.) Good for you!!! Weren't we talking about love and party affiliation? Are you a compassionate conservative and did you support GW Bush's pre-emptive war of choice? What percentage of the folks who "avoid" your friends do you suppose are Republicans? I'd expect it to be larger by at least the weight of a six pack or two. How much "love" do you have, jps? Do you volunteer your time for the unfortunate, the dispossessed, the disaffected, the pariah of our society? Or do you defer to "government" to do your lovin' for ya? Let's see the love, dude! Changing the subject. I'd be pleased to discuss my efforts towards the benefits of mankind but you haven't favored me with any real answers yet. So why should I invest in your inquiry when you haven't invested in mine? This is how it normally goes with you. I think a review of who first toke the path less relevant would yeild a contrary result. What is apparent to the sensible reader is that your declarations are far removed from reality, are not representative of the truth, and that by design. You are a propagandist and you are a minor one at that. You're traipsing around with your basket of radical blubs in remote newsgroups, far from the big-lights that the more notorious radicals, such as Michael Moore, enjoy. I'm sure your family understands you. "toke the path"? I was bleary-eyed last night. I would recommend that you avoid reading C.S. Lewis' "The Abolition of Man" if you have problems comprehending what I write. Then again, I suspect that if you or HK were able to comprehend "The Abolition of Man," any acerbic and witty rebuttal that either of you issued against it would fall as short as all of your other lackluster "blurbs." I don't recall reading this CS Lewis book, but I really enjoyed the space trilogy, and I most enjoyed (and remember) Out of the Silent Planet (apologies to Harry... it's just a coincidence). EM It's more of a philosophical work, em. I haven't read much of C.S. Lewis fiction (one Narnia novel and "The Screwtape Letters," an epistolary). I've read more of his religious and philosophical works, the most difficult to negotiate being "The Abolition of Man," and the most poignant being, imo, "The Problem of Pain." The man was an estimable apologist. And I may be being a bit brutal in this opinion; but, I doubt that either JPS or H the K possess the prowess or acumen to fully absorb it, considering their respectively unremarkable intellectual demonstrations in this NG. That's why the most you'll see from either in a criticism of his work is a "pithy" blurb. I had wanted to add, too, Em, that "The Problem of Pain" is a bit of an exercise in theodicy. It's worth a read, even for those that don't subscribe to any faith in particular. Sometimes, I don't mind a pithy response. Actually, I don't either . It's just that some comments feign'pith' when there is little there to show for it. I can understand God's goodness in the face of many things (all things I suppose), but I don't subscribe to the notion of evil (this puts me at odds with lots of religious people of course). I guess I've struggled with this for a long while, but I've concluded that there doesn't have to be the duality of good and evil for good to exist. Bad certainly exists, but I don't believe in evil. Even bad people can be do good in select circumstances. Certainly, the reverse is true. At least you've invested some thought in the issue. That's more than many others do. I think that when the discussion comes up, the terms need to be clearly defined. It can be asserted that 'good' has no meaning if there isn't 'evil.' The one is defined in some part by the other. I wish I had finished G. E. Moore's "Principia Ethica." I had started it last winter, and I put it down in the middle of his defining "good." Maybe I'll be able to finish it when I retire, if I ever get that far :) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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... On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:28:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:01:53 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:30:40 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: snipped for the salvation of bandwidth I'm in the IT business, too. I also volunteer to help special-needs persons - this, without compensation, reward, or to assauge any speculated, deep-seated feelings of guilt. I have and do assist persons that most other people would avoid by walking on the other side of the street. (Do you do the same?) I'll return to a question I have asked of you before, which you failed to answer in any reasonable manner. Who are you to judge another? (And I'll wager that I'm compensated annually less than you are. I'll also wager that my income stream is less than yours.) Good for you!!! Weren't we talking about love and party affiliation? Are you a compassionate conservative and did you support GW Bush's pre-emptive war of choice? What percentage of the folks who "avoid" your friends do you suppose are Republicans? I'd expect it to be larger by at least the weight of a six pack or two. How much "love" do you have, jps? Do you volunteer your time for the unfortunate, the dispossessed, the disaffected, the pariah of our society? Or do you defer to "government" to do your lovin' for ya? Let's see the love, dude! Changing the subject. I'd be pleased to discuss my efforts towards the benefits of mankind but you haven't favored me with any real answers yet. So why should I invest in your inquiry when you haven't invested in mine? This is how it normally goes with you. I think a review of who first toke the path less relevant would yeild a contrary result. What is apparent to the sensible reader is that your declarations are far removed from reality, are not representative of the truth, and that by design. You are a propagandist and you are a minor one at that. You're traipsing around with your basket of radical blubs in remote newsgroups, far from the big-lights that the more notorious radicals, such as Michael Moore, enjoy. I'm sure your family understands you. "toke the path"? I was bleary-eyed last night. I would recommend that you avoid reading C.S. Lewis' "The Abolition of Man" if you have problems comprehending what I write. Then again, I suspect that if you or HK were able to comprehend "The Abolition of Man," any acerbic and witty rebuttal that either of you issued against it would fall as short as all of your other lackluster "blurbs." I don't recall reading this CS Lewis book, but I really enjoyed the space trilogy, and I most enjoyed (and remember) Out of the Silent Planet (apologies to Harry... it's just a coincidence). EM It's more of a philosophical work, em. I haven't read much of C.S. Lewis fiction (one Narnia novel and "The Screwtape Letters," an epistolary). I've read more of his religious and philosophical works, the most difficult to negotiate being "The Abolition of Man," and the most poignant being, imo, "The Problem of Pain." The man was an estimable apologist. And I may be being a bit brutal in this opinion; but, I doubt that either JPS or H the K possess the prowess or acumen to fully absorb it, considering their respectively unremarkable intellectual demonstrations in this NG. That's why the most you'll see from either in a criticism of his work is a "pithy" blurb. I had wanted to add, too, Em, that "The Problem of Pain" is a bit of an exercise in theodicy. It's worth a read, even for those that don't subscribe to any faith in particular. Sometimes, I don't mind a pithy response. Actually, I don't either . It's just that some comments feign'pith' when there is little there to show for it. I can understand God's goodness in the face of many things (all things I suppose), but I don't subscribe to the notion of evil (this puts me at odds with lots of religious people of course). I guess I've struggled with this for a long while, but I've concluded that there doesn't have to be the duality of good and evil for good to exist. Bad certainly exists, but I don't believe in evil. Even bad people can be do good in select circumstances. Certainly, the reverse is true. At least you've invested some thought in the issue. That's more than many others do. I think that when the discussion comes up, the terms need to be clearly defined. It can be asserted that 'good' has no meaning if there isn't 'evil.' The one is defined in some part by the other. I wish I had finished G. E. Moore's "Principia Ethica." I had started it last winter, and I put it down in the middle of his defining "good." Maybe I'll be able to finish it when I retire, if I ever get that far :) That's certainly one way to look at it, but if you believe that God can only be good (to the the tune of Johnny Be Good of course), is all powerful, and all knowing, then how can evil really exist? Not to be too heavy about it, but it's more on par with Plato than Aristotle, the latter of which bores me, so I tend to dislike and discount his arguments. So, if I make a logical argument, but I mis-spell a word, the logical argument is "good," but does that make the mis-spelling evil? I claim it's bad but not evil. Maybe that's a stretch. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:09:26 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:01:53 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:30:40 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: snipped for the salvation of bandwidth I'm in the IT business, too. I also volunteer to help special-needs persons - this, without compensation, reward, or to assauge any speculated, deep-seated feelings of guilt. I have and do assist persons that most other people would avoid by walking on the other side of the street. (Do you do the same?) I'll return to a question I have asked of you before, which you failed to answer in any reasonable manner. Who are you to judge another? (And I'll wager that I'm compensated annually less than you are. I'll also wager that my income stream is less than yours.) Good for you!!! Weren't we talking about love and party affiliation? Are you a compassionate conservative and did you support GW Bush's pre-emptive war of choice? What percentage of the folks who "avoid" your friends do you suppose are Republicans? I'd expect it to be larger by at least the weight of a six pack or two. How much "love" do you have, jps? Do you volunteer your time for the unfortunate, the dispossessed, the disaffected, the pariah of our society? Or do you defer to "government" to do your lovin' for ya? Let's see the love, dude! Changing the subject. I'd be pleased to discuss my efforts towards the benefits of mankind but you haven't favored me with any real answers yet. So why should I invest in your inquiry when you haven't invested in mine? This is how it normally goes with you. I think a review of who first toke the path less relevant would yeild a contrary result. What is apparent to the sensible reader is that your declarations are far removed from reality, are not representative of the truth, and that by design. You are a propagandist and you are a minor one at that. You're traipsing around with your basket of radical blubs in remote newsgroups, far from the big-lights that the more notorious radicals, such as Michael Moore, enjoy. I'm sure your family understands you. "toke the path"? I was bleary-eyed last night. I would recommend that you avoid reading C.S. Lewis' "The Abolition of Man" if you have problems comprehending what I write. Then again, I suspect that if you or HK were able to comprehend "The Abolition of Man," any acerbic and witty rebuttal that either of you issued against it would fall as short as all of your other lackluster "blurbs." I don't recall reading this CS Lewis book, but I really enjoyed the space trilogy, and I most enjoyed (and remember) Out of the Silent Planet (apologies to Harry... it's just a coincidence). EM It's more of a philosophical work, em. I haven't read much of C.S. Lewis fiction (one Narnia novel and "The Screwtape Letters," an epistolary). I've read more of his religious and philosophical works, the most difficult to negotiate being "The Abolition of Man," and the most poignant being, imo, "The Problem of Pain." The man was an estimable apologist. And I may be being a bit brutal in this opinion; but, I doubt that either JPS or H the K possess the prowess or acumen to fully absorb it, considering their respectively unremarkable intellectual demonstrations in this NG. That's why the most you'll see from either in a criticism of his work is a "pithy" blurb. I had wanted to add, too, Em, that "The Problem of Pain" is a bit of an exercise in theodicy. It's worth a read, even for those that don't subscribe to any faith in particular. Harry was right when he said overwrought. You need to get over yourself. You're exactly like a young jazz musician who knows how to play a lot of notes but hasn't yet discovered it's the spaces that count. Until then, I expect we'll be seeing more missives from the Ponderosa. Maybe you should ask Hoss to help you pull the stick out. And I'm not talking about the one in your eye. |
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