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John H.[_9_] October 19th 09 06:38 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.

Tosk October 19th 09 08:12 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
In article ,
says...

It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.


Repubs didn't do that. After Pelosi made it up, dem operatives did it to
make her look like less of a liar.. After all, they were still reeling
over Pelosi's lies about the CIA and Hillarys lies about landing in
northern Europe...

nom=de=plume October 19th 09 08:14 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.



And, it's not appropriate to compare Bush to him either. After all, Adolf
only started one war. lol

--
Nom=de=Plume



Don White October 19th 09 08:15 PM

Obama and Hitler
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.



So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?



jps October 19th 09 09:21 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.



So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?


Yes, given the choice between having a beer with Jesse Owens or Mein
Fuhrer, Herring would certainly opt for Adolph.

H the K[_2_] October 19th 09 09:22 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On 10/19/09 4:21 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John wrote in message
...
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.



So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?


Yes, given the choice between having a beer with Jesse Owens or Mein
Fuhrer, Herring would certainly opt for Adolph.




I think Herring and Hitler are related. I'm using right-wing logic
here...both their last names begin with 'H'


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


jps October 19th 09 09:25 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:14:40 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.



And, it's not appropriate to compare Bush to him either. After all, Adolf
only started one war. lol


George only started one war -- the war with Islam.

Jesus vs. Mohammed.

Looks like Mohammed's got a better quarterback, play caller and
defensive coordinator despite Jesus' $ spilled everywhere.

Scott Dickson October 20th 09 02:06 AM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Oct 19, 4:22*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 4:21 PM, jps wrote:



On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
*wrote:


"John *wrote in message
. ..
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.


But it's time to cease that particular fire.


After all...


Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.


So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?


Yes, given the choice between having a beer with Jesse Owens or Mein
Fuhrer, Herring would certainly opt for Adolph.


I think Herring and Hitler are related. I'm using right-wing logic
here...both their last names begin with 'H'

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


" John Adolf Herring"....hahahahahahahahahaha

jps October 20th 09 02:42 AM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:06:18 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson
wrote:

On Oct 19, 4:22*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 4:21 PM, jps wrote:



On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
*wrote:


"John *wrote in message
. ..
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.


But it's time to cease that particular fire.


After all...


Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.


So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?


Yes, given the choice between having a beer with Jesse Owens or Mein
Fuhrer, Herring would certainly opt for Adolph.


I think Herring and Hitler are related. I'm using right-wing logic
here...both their last names begin with 'H'

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


" John Adolf Herring"....hahahahahahahahahaha


I suppose he favors that fine german pilsner from Adolph Coors.

John H.[_9_] October 20th 09 01:25 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.



So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?


Compared to 'Bama?

John H.[_9_] October 20th 09 01:52 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:42:06 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:06:18 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson
wrote:

On Oct 19, 4:22*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 4:21 PM, jps wrote:



On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
*wrote:

"John *wrote in message
. ..
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.

So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?

Yes, given the choice between having a beer with Jesse Owens or Mein
Fuhrer, Herring would certainly opt for Adolph.

I think Herring and Hitler are related. I'm using right-wing logic
here...both their last names begin with 'H'

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


" John Adolf Herring"....hahahahahahahahahaha


I suppose he favors that fine german pilsner from Adolph Coors.


Please encourage Dickson. He needs all the help he can get.

I don't drink, but I did favor 'Pilsner Urquell' from what was then
Czechoslovakia.

Don White October 20th 09 02:19 PM

Obama and Hitler
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.



So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?


Compared to 'Bama?


After all...you & Hitler have something in common.
You both were members of your countries armies in a losing war.
(Hitler WW1...... you.... well, we won't list them again)



John H.[_9_] October 20th 09 02:48 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:19:59 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.


So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?


Compared to 'Bama?


After all...you & Hitler have something in common.
You both were members of your countries armies in a losing war.
(Hitler WW1...... you.... well, we won't list them again)


It's really hard not to let insults fly, isn't it Don? I'm sure Hitler
and I have several things in common. We both like Berchtesgaden and
the Bavarian Alps, for example.

We didn't 'lose' in Vietnam, regardless of what Harry says. We didn't
finish as we should have, and we left. But there was no surrender.

I don't know what else Harry has on his 'list', which I assume you're
referring to. I was involved in Desert Storm, but even Harry couldn't
consider that a 'loss', so I assume you don't either.

Maybe you could tell me what else is on your 'list'.

Tosk October 20th 09 03:11 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:19:59 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.


So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?


Compared to 'Bama?


After all...you & Hitler have something in common.
You both were members of your countries armies in a losing war.
(Hitler WW1...... you.... well, we won't list them again)


It's really hard not to let insults fly, isn't it Don? I'm sure Hitler
and I have several things in common. We both like Berchtesgaden and
the Bavarian Alps, for example.

We didn't 'lose' in Vietnam, regardless of what Harry says. We didn't
finish as we should have, and we left. But there was no surrender.

I don't know what else Harry has on his 'list', which I assume you're
referring to. I was involved in Desert Storm, but even Harry couldn't
consider that a 'loss', so I assume you don't either.

Maybe you could tell me what else is on your 'list'.


Thanks for your service...

Scott Dickson October 20th 09 03:22 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Oct 20, 10:11*am, Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...





On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:19:59 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.


John H.[_9_] October 20th 09 03:36 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:22:35 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson
wrote:

More angry liberal comments.

nom=de=plume October 20th 09 07:34 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:19:59 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.


So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?


Compared to 'Bama?

After all...you & Hitler have something in common.
You both were members of your countries armies in a losing war.
(Hitler WW1...... you.... well, we won't list them again)


It's really hard not to let insults fly, isn't it Don? I'm sure Hitler
and I have several things in common. We both like Berchtesgaden and
the Bavarian Alps, for example.

We didn't 'lose' in Vietnam, regardless of what Harry says. We didn't
finish as we should have, and we left. But there was no surrender.

I don't know what else Harry has on his 'list', which I assume you're
referring to. I was involved in Desert Storm, but even Harry couldn't
consider that a 'loss', so I assume you don't either.

Maybe you could tell me what else is on your 'list'.


Thanks for your service...



Yes, thanks. But, the VN war was considered a loss. We certainly didn't win,
and the North did take over (April 1975). I'm not sure how anyone could
realistically claim it was even a tie. Perhaps Korea was a tie (technically
it's not over right?).

--
Nom=de=Plume



John H.[_9_] October 20th 09 09:13 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:34:16 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:19:59 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.


So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?


Compared to 'Bama?

After all...you & Hitler have something in common.
You both were members of your countries armies in a losing war.
(Hitler WW1...... you.... well, we won't list them again)


It's really hard not to let insults fly, isn't it Don? I'm sure Hitler
and I have several things in common. We both like Berchtesgaden and
the Bavarian Alps, for example.

We didn't 'lose' in Vietnam, regardless of what Harry says. We didn't
finish as we should have, and we left. But there was no surrender.

I don't know what else Harry has on his 'list', which I assume you're
referring to. I was involved in Desert Storm, but even Harry couldn't
consider that a 'loss', so I assume you don't either.

Maybe you could tell me what else is on your 'list'.


Thanks for your service...



Yes, thanks. But, the VN war was considered a loss. We certainly didn't win,
and the North did take over (April 1975). I'm not sure how anyone could
realistically claim it was even a tie. Perhaps Korea was a tie (technically
it's not over right?).


Typical liberal bull****.

We left. We didn't lose. The politicians lost their will.

nom=de=plume October 21st 09 01:26 AM

Obama and Hitler
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:34:16 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:19:59 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:15:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
It is time for all of us to stop the comparisons of Obama to
Hitler.
Yes, I know, it gave lots of liberals something exciting to do
while
Bush was President, and a lot of posters were devoted to that
comparison.

But it's time to cease that particular fire.

After all...

Hitler was able to get the Olympics in Berlin.


So...you think fondly of Hitler..do you?


Compared to 'Bama?

After all...you & Hitler have something in common.
You both were members of your countries armies in a losing war.
(Hitler WW1...... you.... well, we won't list them again)


It's really hard not to let insults fly, isn't it Don? I'm sure
Hitler
and I have several things in common. We both like Berchtesgaden and
the Bavarian Alps, for example.

We didn't 'lose' in Vietnam, regardless of what Harry says. We didn't
finish as we should have, and we left. But there was no surrender.

I don't know what else Harry has on his 'list', which I assume you're
referring to. I was involved in Desert Storm, but even Harry couldn't
consider that a 'loss', so I assume you don't either.

Maybe you could tell me what else is on your 'list'.

Thanks for your service...


Yes, thanks. But, the VN war was considered a loss. We certainly didn't
win,
and the North did take over (April 1975). I'm not sure how anyone could
realistically claim it was even a tie. Perhaps Korea was a tie
(technically
it's not over right?).

Typical liberal bull****.

We left. We didn't lose. The politicians lost their will.



Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.


lol lol lol



I don't think the VN war or the vets or that we lost is funny. I remember
LBJ's ears. Those were funny.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 21st 09 04:44 AM

Obama and Hitler
 
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.


Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.



Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 21st 09 04:45 AM

Obama and Hitler
 
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:34:16 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Thanks for your service...



Yes, thanks. But, the VN war was considered a loss. We certainly didn't
win,
and the North did take over (April 1975). I'm not sure how anyone could
realistically claim it was even a tie. Perhaps Korea was a tie
(technically
it's not over right?).



Vietnam was a strategic clusterfk that we finally abandoned but the
GIs, in country, won virtually every battle they were in.

I thank those guys for their service too.


Unfortunately, winning battles doesn't mean winning the war.

--
Nom=de=Plume



jps October 21st 09 05:59 AM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.



Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.


I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.


They may be in the middle of nowhere, but the reports I've seen from
Afghanistan indicate they all know what the score is and who wants
what.

John H.[_9_] October 21st 09 11:48 AM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:45:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:34:16 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Thanks for your service...


Yes, thanks. But, the VN war was considered a loss. We certainly didn't
win,
and the North did take over (April 1975). I'm not sure how anyone could
realistically claim it was even a tie. Perhaps Korea was a tie
(technically
it's not over right?).



Vietnam was a strategic clusterfk that we finally abandoned but the
GIs, in country, won virtually every battle they were in.

I thank those guys for their service too.


Unfortunately, winning battles doesn't mean winning the war.


Again, the military didn't lose the war either. The politicians left.
But, you anti-military liberals must keep your head buried. So be it.
lol lol

John H.[_9_] October 21st 09 11:51 AM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.



Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.


I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.


This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost*?

nom=de=plume October 21st 09 07:36 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.



Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.


I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.



I don't think most GIs think it's a crusade. Certainly, the Iraqis/Afghanis
do.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 21st 09 07:38 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.


Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.


I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.


This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost*?



Possibly, unless the local gov't has/gets some credibility and takes action.
Who used the word "crusade" about fighting over there? I don't think it was
Obama.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 21st 09 07:39 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:51:17 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.


Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.

I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.


This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost*?



This is the messiah of change and he has demonstrated it is easy to
change his mind on things. A couple CNN polls seems to do the trick.
I think we are going to declare victory, cut and run ... at least I
hope so.



What's wrong with changing your mind about something? If you can't do that,
you shouldn't be in charge.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume October 21st 09 07:40 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:45:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:34:16 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Thanks for your service...


Yes, thanks. But, the VN war was considered a loss. We certainly didn't
win,
and the North did take over (April 1975). I'm not sure how anyone could
realistically claim it was even a tie. Perhaps Korea was a tie
(technically
it's not over right?).


Vietnam was a strategic clusterfk that we finally abandoned but the
GIs, in country, won virtually every battle they were in.

I thank those guys for their service too.


Unfortunately, winning battles doesn't mean winning the war.


Again, the military didn't lose the war either. The politicians left.
But, you anti-military liberals must keep your head buried. So be it.
lol lol



Show me where I said they did. Lying about what I said isn't making you more
credible.

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jps October 21st 09 07:54 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:40:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:45:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:34:16 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Thanks for your service...


Yes, thanks. But, the VN war was considered a loss. We certainly didn't
win,
and the North did take over (April 1975). I'm not sure how anyone could
realistically claim it was even a tie. Perhaps Korea was a tie
(technically
it's not over right?).


Vietnam was a strategic clusterfk that we finally abandoned but the
GIs, in country, won virtually every battle they were in.

I thank those guys for their service too.

Unfortunately, winning battles doesn't mean winning the war.


Again, the military didn't lose the war either. The politicians left.
But, you anti-military liberals must keep your head buried. So be it.
lol lol



Show me where I said they did. Lying about what I said isn't making you more
credible.



Yes, I'm a liberal and anti-military as the solution to most conflict.
Iraq was completely unnecessary. We've invested trillions in a
senseless war that could have been invested in our own infrastructure.

That's a bad investment. We could have built schools and hospitals in
Afghanistan and instead we've invested in bullets, bombs and blood.

If spilling money into the Pentagon is considered supporting the
military then yes, I'm against it.

John H.[_9_] October 21st 09 07:57 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:21:09 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:51:17 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.


Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.

I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.


This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost*?



This is the messiah of change and he has demonstrated it is easy to
change his mind on things. A couple CNN polls seems to do the trick.
I think we are going to declare victory, cut and run ... at least I
hope so.


So, if 'Bama says, "We've won!", then we won the war, yes?

If that's the case, couldn't he say, "We won in Vietnam too"?

Gosh, we'd be big time winners everywhere!

[Note: Unless you want to royally **** off a few liberals here (not
Loogy), you should use an upper-case 'M' in messiah when referring to
'Bama.]

John H.[_9_] October 21st 09 08:07 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:38:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.


Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.

I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.


This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost*?



Possibly, unless the local gov't has/gets some credibility and takes action.
Who used the word "crusade" about fighting over there? I don't think it was
Obama.


I've no idea who said 'crusade'. This is the first I've seen it used
in this context.

'Bama said this was a war of necessity. I would think that means we
should win it, not cut and run like we did in Vietnam. If we do that,
then you liberals will say, "We lost".

John H.[_9_] October 21st 09 08:07 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:39:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:51:17 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
om...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.


Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.

I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.

This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost*?



This is the messiah of change and he has demonstrated it is easy to
change his mind on things. A couple CNN polls seems to do the trick.
I think we are going to declare victory, cut and run ... at least I
hope so.



What's wrong with changing your mind about something? If you can't do that,
you shouldn't be in charge.


Didn't we change our minds about Vietnam? Does changing your mind mean
you've 'lost'?

John H.[_9_] October 21st 09 08:08 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:40:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

But, the VN war was considered a loss



Tosk October 21st 09 08:46 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
In article ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.


Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.


I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.



I don't think most GIs think it's a crusade. Certainly, the Iraqis/Afghanis
do.


Did you just make that up or did you get it from MoveOn.org?

thunder October 21st 09 09:19 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:07:01 -0400, John H. wrote:


I've no idea who said 'crusade'. This is the first I've seen it used in
this context.


Selective, or defective memory? It was, of course, GWB that used the
word "crusade".

"This is a new kind of, a new kind of evil. And the American people are
beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to
take a while. And American people must be patient." George W. Bush, Sept.
16, 2001.

jps October 21st 09 09:35 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:19:58 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:07:01 -0400, John H. wrote:


I've no idea who said 'crusade'. This is the first I've seen it used in
this context.


Selective, or defective memory? It was, of course, GWB that used the
word "crusade".

"This is a new kind of, a new kind of evil. And the American people are
beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to
take a while. And American people must be patient." George W. Bush, Sept.
16, 2001.


Hence the close association with Eric Prince. There was lots done in
the name of Jesus. That's how Bush got Blair on his side.

John H.[_9_] October 21st 09 09:50 PM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:19:58 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:07:01 -0400, John H. wrote:


I've no idea who said 'crusade'. This is the first I've seen it used in
this context.


Selective, or defective memory? It was, of course, GWB that used the
word "crusade".

"This is a new kind of, a new kind of evil. And the American people are
beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to
take a while. And American people must be patient." George W. Bush, Sept.
16, 2001.


Sorry. I thought the post was referring to Afghanistan. I do remember
the above, and I do find it applicable - to the worldwide war on
terrorism. Of course, we are no longer at war with terrorists because
they don't exist.

It's hard to keep up.

wf3h October 22nd 09 12:17 AM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Oct 21, 6:51*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.


Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.


Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.


I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.


This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost


bush already lost it. obama's trying to win it.

wf3h October 22nd 09 12:18 AM

Obama and Hitler
 
On Oct 21, 12:21*pm, wrote:


This is the messiah of change and he has demonstrated it is easy to
change his mind on things. A couple CNN polls seems to do the trick.
I think we are going to declare victory, cut and run ... at least I
hope so.-


now let me think....which president fired his secdef only AFTER the
pres lost an election....hmmm....could it be

BUSH??

nom=de=plume October 22nd 09 03:26 AM

Obama and Hitler
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:39:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:51:17 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
news:4brsd59fogd9kvvfkee3793an2p21bcaib@4ax. com...
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.


Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in either
place.

I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.

This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost*?


This is the messiah of change and he has demonstrated it is easy to
change his mind on things. A couple CNN polls seems to do the trick.
I think we are going to declare victory, cut and run ... at least I
hope so.



What's wrong with changing your mind about something? If you can't do
that,
you shouldn't be in charge.


Didn't we change our minds about Vietnam? Does changing your mind mean
you've 'lost'?



So, what you're saying is that if one changes one mind once, and it doesn't
turn out the way you want, it's a bad thing to change your mind in the
future?

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