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Frogwatch October 19th 09 03:19 AM

sailign season is here
 
At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.

nom=de=plume October 19th 09 04:53 AM

sailign season is here
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.



Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!

--
Nom=de=Plume



Mike[_3_] October 19th 09 05:01 AM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 18, 8:53�pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. �So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. �Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. �I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!

--
Nom=de=Plume


Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !

nom=de=plume October 19th 09 07:03 AM

sailign season is here
 
"Mike" wrote in message
...
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!

--
Nom=de=Plume


Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !



If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Frogwatch[_2_] October 19th 09 04:36 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 2:03*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

...
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message


....


At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!


--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !


If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Did not go. Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.

H K October 19th 09 04:42 PM

sailign season is here
 
On 10/19/09 11:36 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 2:03 am, wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, wrote:



wrote in message


...


At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!


--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !


If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Did not go. Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.



You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Frogwatch[_2_] October 19th 09 05:32 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 11:42*am, H K wrote:
On 10/19/09 11:36 AM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Oct 19, 2:03 am, *wrote:
*wrote in message


....
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, *wrote:


*wrote in message


....


At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!


--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !


If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Did not go. *Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. *Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. *I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. *Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.


You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.

H the K[_2_] October 19th 09 05:37 PM

sailign season is here
 
On 10/19/09 12:32 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 11:42 am, H wrote:
On 10/19/09 11:36 AM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Oct 19, 2:03 am, wrote:
wrote in message


...
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, wrote:


wrote in message


...


At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!


--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !


If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Did not go. Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.


You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.



I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


Frogwatch[_2_] October 19th 09 05:54 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 12:37*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 12:32 PM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Oct 19, 11:42 am, H *wrote:
On 10/19/09 11:36 AM, Frogwatch wrote:


On Oct 19, 2:03 am, * *wrote:
* *wrote in message


...
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, * *wrote:


* *wrote in message


...


At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!


--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !


If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Did not go. *Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. *Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. *I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. *Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.


You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


Well, why do anything if nothing unusual happens? Many trips are so
ho-hum I forget them. Don't you like to solve problems? If things
always went well all the time I'd be bored to death.

H the K[_2_] October 19th 09 06:02 PM

sailign season is here
 
On 10/19/09 12:54 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 12:37 pm, H the wrote:
On 10/19/09 12:32 PM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Oct 19, 11:42 am, H wrote:
On 10/19/09 11:36 AM, Frogwatch wrote:


On Oct 19, 2:03 am, wrote:
wrote in message


...
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, wrote:


wrote in message


...


At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!


--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !


If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Did not go. Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.


You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


Well, why do anything if nothing unusual happens? Many trips are so
ho-hum I forget them. Don't you like to solve problems? If things
always went well all the time I'd be bored to death.



Indeed. I guess I'll give up checking the air pressure on my trailer
tires, the status of grease in the bearings, loose bolts here and there,
battery charging, oil changes, et cetera, so my boating can be as
exciting as yours.

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


H the K[_2_] October 19th 09 06:09 PM

sailign season is here
 
On 10/19/09 1:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K
wrote:

You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.



I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."


You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.


I also spend some time taking care of my "stuff," an activity that falls
into the category of preventive maintenance.



--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


Loogypicker[_2_] October 19th 09 06:17 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 12:37*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 12:32 PM, Frogwatch wrote:





On Oct 19, 11:42 am, H *wrote:
On 10/19/09 11:36 AM, Frogwatch wrote:


On Oct 19, 2:03 am, * *wrote:
* *wrote in message


...
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, * *wrote:


* *wrote in message


...


At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!


--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !


If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Did not go. *Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. *Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. *I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. *Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.


You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Bull****. If you do stuff, you'll certainly have things go wrong.
You're afraid to go camping, afraid of anything fast, you're too fat
to fit into a cave, and too afraid of doing anything other than hiding
behind your desk being a fat, nasty prick.

Frogwatch[_2_] October 19th 09 06:23 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 1:03*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."


You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.


Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. How many people build their own campers or
boats. If you expect zero problems, buy instead. I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.

D.Duck[_3_] October 19th 09 06:46 PM

sailign season is here
 
On 10/19/2009 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."


You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.


Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. How many people build their own campers or
boats. If you expect zero problems, buy instead. I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.



Any bets of the type of reply you'll get? 8)

Frogwatch[_2_] October 19th 09 06:53 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 1:46*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
On 10/19/2009 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K


*wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."


You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.


Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. *In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. *It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. *How many people build their own campers or
boats. *If you expect zero problems, buy instead. *I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. *This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. *If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. *I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.


Any bets of the type of reply you'll get? *8)


Hk doesn't bother me. He's just a grumpy old guy with nothing to do.

Vic Smith October 19th 09 06:55 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:46:46 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:



Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind.


What's odd about the install?
Should be pretty straightforward.
You got a secret you're not letting out?

--Vic

Frogwatch[_2_] October 19th 09 07:09 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 1:55*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:46:46 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind.


What's odd about the install?
Should be pretty straightforward.
You got a secret you're not letting out?

--Vic


Nothing odd really. HArry was saying I had all these problems with
boats and this was the last thing I remember posting about the Tolman
he could be referring to. Going to use 10 guage wire and a dedicated
deep cycle battery for it. It will have its own housing at the
transom with smooth walled hose going up to a straight thru-hull for
max flow. Roughly a 3' rise. I figure it'll get rid of water fast.

Tosk October 19th 09 08:07 PM

sailign season is here
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/19/2009 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.

Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.

Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.

I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."

You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.


Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. How many people build their own campers or
boats. If you expect zero problems, buy instead. I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.



Any bets of the type of reply you'll get? 8)


If you plonk the silly bitch, you won't get any;)

nom=de=plume October 19th 09 08:12 PM

sailign season is here
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Oct 19, 2:03 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

...
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message


...


At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!


--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !


If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Did not go. Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.



If you have a tether, why do you need a lifejacket? Seems like the tether
would keep you with the boat. Well, I guess if it sinks, then you would.

Do you have a satelite phone? I think I'd want one of those if I was out of
cell service.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Frogwatch[_2_] October 19th 09 08:18 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 3:12*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Oct 19, 2:03 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Mike" wrote in message


....
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message


....


At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!


--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !


If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.


--
Nom=de=Plume
Did not go. *Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. *Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. *I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. *Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.


If you have a tether, why do you need a lifejacket? Seems like the tether
would keep you with the boat. Well, I guess if it sinks, then you would.

Do you have a satelite phone? I think I'd want one of those if I was out of
cell service.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Cell phone service on the coast here is so spotty as to be useless or
at least not reliable. Later in the year when I sail across the Gulf
of Mexico, I'll rent a sat phone.
The auto-inflate jacket has a built in harness and is comfy to wear.

Frogwatch[_2_] October 19th 09 08:25 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 3:18*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 3:12*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message


....
On Oct 19, 2:03 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


"Mike" wrote in message


....
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message


...


At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!


--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !


If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.


--
Nom=de=Plume
Did not go. *Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. *Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. *I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. *Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.


If you have a tether, why do you need a lifejacket? Seems like the tether
would keep you with the boat. Well, I guess if it sinks, then you would..


Do you have a satelite phone? I think I'd want one of those if I was out of
cell service.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Cell phone service on the coast here is so spotty as to be useless or
at least not reliable. *Later in the year when I sail across the Gulf
of Mexico, I'll rent a sat phone.
The auto-inflate jacket has a built in harness and is comfy to wear.


Last time I did this, having a cell phone got me in trouble due to bad
reception. When I got back to within sight of land, I managed to call
my wife to tell her my engine had crapped out and I was sailing in and
would be late and I'd call her. She somehow misheard this and thought
I was having trouble. So, a few hours later while I was pulling the
boat down the canal by rowing the dinghy (a pain in the ass), the
Marine Patrol shows up asking me if I was David OHara. Yes, Why I
ask. Wife was worried, "You said you'd call me". No reception makes
that difficult. It is best not to call until you are tied to the dock.

H the K[_2_] October 19th 09 08:42 PM

sailign season is here
 
On 10/19/09 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K

wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."


You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.


Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. How many people build their own campers or
boats. If you expect zero problems, buy instead. I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.



I've installed bilge pumps on boats, and even with my limited knowledge
of electricity, I didn't encounter "wiring problems." Wiring in a new
pump seems pretty straightforward, no?

I'm sure it is quite enjoyable to be among thousands of dead bats and
live poisonous snakes.

As for your project building, you seem to enjoy making your life as
complicated as you can. I don't.


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


Frogwatch[_2_] October 19th 09 08:57 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 3:42*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K


*wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."


You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.


Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. *In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. *It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. *How many people build their own campers or
boats. *If you expect zero problems, buy instead. *I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. *This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. *If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. *I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.


I've installed bilge pumps on boats, and even with my limited knowledge
of electricity, I didn't encounter "wiring problems." Wiring in a new
pump seems pretty straightforward, no?

I'm sure it is quite enjoyable to be among thousands of dead bats and
live poisonous snakes.

As for your project building, you seem to enjoy making your life as
complicated as you can. I don't.

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


A few weeks ago when we were dragging the canoes and kayaks thru the
muck to see these cool springs, I saw a guy happily fishing while we
were having a bitch of a time getting our boats through the dense
weeds. I thought, "Dang, that sure looks relaxing, maybe I should try
it", a few seconds later, my daughter and I are happily up to our
necks in mud draggin the boats and I think, "Yeah, I'll do that when
I'm 80 and can't deal with cool stuff"

Tosk October 19th 09 09:04 PM

sailign season is here
 
In article a936614b-dd5f-4841-a4ae-dde9b56ea369
@a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 19, 3:42*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K


*wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."


You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.


Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. *In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. *It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. *How many people build their own campers or
boats. *If you expect zero problems, buy instead. *I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. *This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. *If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. *I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.


I've installed bilge pumps on boats, and even with my limited knowledge
of electricity, I didn't encounter "wiring problems." Wiring in a new
pump seems pretty straightforward, no?

I'm sure it is quite enjoyable to be among thousands of dead bats and
live poisonous snakes.

As for your project building, you seem to enjoy making your life as
complicated as you can. I don't.

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


A few weeks ago when we were dragging the canoes and kayaks thru the
muck to see these cool springs, I saw a guy happily fishing while we
were having a bitch of a time getting our boats through the dense
weeds. I thought, "Dang, that sure looks relaxing, maybe I should try
it", a few seconds later, my daughter and I are happily up to our
necks in mud draggin the boats and I think, "Yeah, I'll do that when
I'm 80 and can't deal with cool stuff"


Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...

H the K[_2_] October 19th 09 09:09 PM

sailign season is here
 
On 10/19/09 3:57 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 3:42 pm, H the wrote:
On 10/19/09 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K


wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."


You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.


Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. How many people build their own campers or
boats. If you expect zero problems, buy instead. I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.


I've installed bilge pumps on boats, and even with my limited knowledge
of electricity, I didn't encounter "wiring problems." Wiring in a new
pump seems pretty straightforward, no?

I'm sure it is quite enjoyable to be among thousands of dead bats and
live poisonous snakes.

As for your project building, you seem to enjoy making your life as
complicated as you can. I don't.

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


A few weeks ago when we were dragging the canoes and kayaks thru the
muck to see these cool springs, I saw a guy happily fishing while we
were having a bitch of a time getting our boats through the dense
weeds. I thought, "Dang, that sure looks relaxing, maybe I should try
it", a few seconds later, my daughter and I are happily up to our
necks in mud draggin the boats and I think, "Yeah, I'll do that when
I'm 80 and can't deal with cool stuff"



Doubt you'll make it that far...


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


H the K[_2_] October 19th 09 09:11 PM

sailign season is here
 
On 10/19/09 4:04 PM, Tosk wrote:


Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...



Speaking of slobs, here's a short, fat little freak with a doo rag
around his head:

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-fat-freak.jpg


Yep...Scott Ingersoll. That's him.


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


Vic Smith October 19th 09 09:16 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:57:44 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:



A few weeks ago when we were dragging the canoes and kayaks thru the
muck to see these cool springs, I saw a guy happily fishing while we
were having a bitch of a time getting our boats through the dense
weeds. I thought, "Dang, that sure looks relaxing, maybe I should try
it", a few seconds later, my daughter and I are happily up to our
necks in mud draggin the boats and I think, "Yeah, I'll do that when
I'm 80 and can't deal with cool stuff"


Different strokes. To me fishing *IS* the cool stuff.
Exercise is for healthy people who don't know better.

--Vic



Don White October 19th 09 09:17 PM

sailign season is here
 

"H the K" wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 4:04 PM, Tosk wrote:


Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...



Speaking of slobs, here's a short, fat little freak with a doo rag around
his head:

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-fat-freak.jpg


Yep...Scott Ingersoll. That's him.



Speaking about the Freak.....
I could have sworn I saw a picture of him with bigstyle ponytailed hair in a
salt & pepper colour.
In that rescue video, it appears that his hair is that mousy brown colour
from one of the mens hair dye products.
Is he dying his hair now...and if so, why not pick a half decent colour?



H the K[_2_] October 19th 09 09:23 PM

sailign season is here
 
On 10/19/09 4:17 PM, Don White wrote:
"H the wrote in message
m...
On 10/19/09 4:04 PM, Tosk wrote:


Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...



Speaking of slobs, here's a short, fat little freak with a doo rag around
his head:

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-fat-freak.jpg


Yep...Scott Ingersoll. That's him.



Speaking about the Freak.....
I could have sworn I saw a picture of him with bigstyle ponytailed hair in a
salt& pepper colour.
In that rescue video, it appears that his hair is that mousy brown colour
from one of the mens hair dye products.
Is he dying his hair now...and if so, why not pick a half decent colour?




He wears it pink in the golf course shower room.


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


Frogwatch[_2_] October 19th 09 09:27 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 4:04*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article a936614b-dd5f-4841-a4ae-dde9b56ea369
@a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com, says...





On Oct 19, 3:42*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:


On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K


*wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."


You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.


Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. *In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. *It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. *How many people build their own campers or
boats. *If you expect zero problems, buy instead. *I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. *This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. *If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. *I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.


I've installed bilge pumps on boats, and even with my limited knowledge
of electricity, I didn't encounter "wiring problems." Wiring in a new
pump seems pretty straightforward, no?


I'm sure it is quite enjoyable to be among thousands of dead bats and
live poisonous snakes.


As for your project building, you seem to enjoy making your life as
complicated as you can. I don't.


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


A few weeks ago when we were dragging the canoes and kayaks thru the
muck to see these cool springs, I saw a guy happily fishing while we
were having a bitch of a time getting our boats through the dense
weeds. *I thought, "Dang, that sure looks relaxing, maybe I should try
it", a few seconds later, my daughter and I are happily up to our
necks in mud draggin the boats and I think, "Yeah, I'll do that when
I'm 80 and can't deal with cool stuff"


Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...


Trips where things go wrong are always good in retrospect because they
are memorable. We've been on too many camping, backpacking, canoeing,
sailing, caving, etc trips to remember. The ones where nothing
happened you barely remember. I can look through my journal and find
we have slept in our Eureka backpacking tent over 375 days total over
the years but cannot remember most of the trips, they were
uneventful. I can remember having to drag a crashing hot air balloon
away from it in CO. I can remember the flood in MO where the tent
became a boat and still did not leak. Can remember the near miss by a
waterspout in FL at night. We are now up to tent #3 and are going
back to the old Eureka tent as the kids no longer go with us. Tent #3
we have probably spent only about 50 nights in and it is worn out
too. Only a couple memorable nights in it.
I met my wife on a crazed canoeing trip where it rained like hell for
48 hours and the river flooded so much we were not sure where it was,
we still joke about it 29 yrs later. We spent our honeymoon camping
up in the CO mountains for 70 days. She got hurt in a rock climbing
accident (broke an arm, fractured hip and broken toe) but we kept
camping till the snow was collapsing the tent during the nights. She
thinks I am a wimp for wanting a camper instead of the tent.
Overcoming minor adversity is what makes life fun, makes you wonder if
HK has any fun. I figure that if everything goes according to plan,
you are not trying hard enough to have fun. Ya gotta have some
adversity, otherwise you're just a crotchedy old man like HK. When
you get to be 95 and think back that "Everything went according to
plan", will it matter if you have alzheimers?

Scott Dickson October 20th 09 03:36 AM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 3:07*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...





On 10/19/2009 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K


*wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Scott Dickson October 20th 09 03:38 AM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 4:04*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article a936614b-dd5f-4841-a4ae-dde9b56ea369
@a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com, says...





On Oct 19, 3:42*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 1:23 PM, Frogwatch wrote:


On Oct 19, 1:03 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:37:56 -0400, H the K


*wrote:
You certainly seem to have your problems with boats, caves, campertops,
et cetera.


Don't take up golf...you'd be hit by lightning or eaten by a gator.


Maybe it is because I actually do stuff Harry. *I do agree though, I
am convinced that if I ever golfed I'd get hit by lightning.


I "do stuff," too, Froggy. I just don't seem to have all the problems
you do with your "stuff."


You probably have newer stuff and take it back to the dealer when it
breaks.


Harry, I do all that stuff too but I prob push things further than
most people would. Most of boat trips, nothing noteworthy happens
unless you go someplace unexpected and I like to explore. My install
of a 3600 gph pump on my 20' Tolman Skiff may seem odd and result in
some wiring problems but will give me peace of mind. *In sailing, I
dont know of anybody else who I think is capable of climbing my mast
so I will do it. In caving, I am a safety fanatic;cavers are supposed
to carry 3 independent lights, I carry 8. *It is simply the
otherworldly nature of caving that makes most trips so unusual.
Really now, how often do you find yourself in a tight passage where
the wall has thousands of flattened dead bats on it as if they were
all hit by a massive fly swatter and you realize, uh-oh, that was done
by a flash flood....or you find the way out of the cave is blocked by
an angry water moccassin. *How many people build their own campers or
boats. *If you expect zero problems, buy instead. *I like to
understand what I am using so I build.
I also like solving problems. *This is the first time in two years I
have not been able to use the sailboat when I wanted so I cannot
complain too much. *If I had the solar panel hooked up, my batteries
would have been ok but I suspect something odd about the wiring at my
slip or that my panel has gone bad somehow causing corrosion so it has
been taken off. *I gotta get the panel home to measure its resistance
over time.


I've installed bilge pumps on boats, and even with my limited knowledge
of electricity, I didn't encounter "wiring problems." Wiring in a new
pump seems pretty straightforward, no?


I'm sure it is quite enjoyable to be among thousands of dead bats and
live poisonous snakes.


As for your project building, you seem to enjoy making your life as
complicated as you can. I don't.


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


A few weeks ago when we were dragging the canoes and kayaks thru the
muck to see these cool springs, I saw a guy happily fishing while we
were having a bitch of a time getting our boats through the dense
weeds. *I thought, "Dang, that sure looks relaxing, maybe I should try
it", a few seconds later, my daughter and I are happily up to our
necks in mud draggin the boats and I think, "Yeah, I'll do that when
I'm 80 and can't deal with cool stuff"


Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...


or a FAGGOT PRINCE like SCOTTY INGERSOLL........

Scott Dickson October 20th 09 03:39 AM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 4:11*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 4:04 PM, Tosk wrote:



Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...


Speaking of slobs, here's a short, fat little freak with a doo rag
around his head:

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...l/?action=view....

Yep...Scott Ingersoll. That's him.

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


does that license plate say ASSWIPE???? Sure fits him. Later he'll get
one that says FAGGOT.

Scott Dickson October 20th 09 03:41 AM

sailign season is here
 
On Oct 19, 4:23*pm, H the K wrote:
On 10/19/09 4:17 PM, Don White wrote:



"H the *wrote in message
om...
On 10/19/09 4:04 PM, Tosk wrote:


Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...


Speaking of slobs, here's a short, fat little freak with a doo rag around
his head:


http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...l/?action=view....


Yep...Scott Ingersoll. That's him.


Speaking about the Freak.....
I could have sworn I saw a picture of him with bigstyle ponytailed hair in a
salt& *pepper colour.
In that rescue video, it appears that his hair is that mousy brown colour
from one of the mens hair dye products.
Is he dying his hair now...and if so, why not pick a half decent colour?


He wears it pink in the golf course shower room.

--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill


Most guys only see the bald spot on the top of his head as he's
SUCKING THEM OFF LIKE THE FAGGOT HE IS.

nom=de=plume October 20th 09 04:53 AM

sailign season is here
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Oct 19, 2:03 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

...
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message


...


At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!


--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !


If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Did not go. Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.


REPLY: what do you do if you have to take off the jacket? does the harness
stay with you... sounds like it.?

--
Nom=de=Plume



Tom Francis - SWSports October 20th 09 07:59 AM

sailign season is here
 
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:51:31 -0400, wrote:

I don't know much about these new fangled digital phones but with a
good marine antenna you could get out on an AMPS66 phone all the way
from Marathon to Naples and not lose service. If I went very far
offshore I would be looking into a digital phone with provisions for
an external antenna. The last time I tried it my old analog phone was
still working anyway. They just wanted some ridiculous amount per
minute to use it.


Yeah, but they work and work well.

Wayne has used APRS - an amateur radio tracking system to great
success - combined with Google Maps and Earth (the only thing Google
is good for in my opinion). If you did run into trouble, folks
tracking you using the service would have a recent position report to
work off of. I plan on using it on the Grady when we move south.

Then again, I also have sat phone backup. It may be expensive to use
per minute, but what's expense when you're in trouble.

Wayne.B October 20th 09 12:23 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:59:15 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:51:31 -0400, wrote:

I don't know much about these new fangled digital phones but with a
good marine antenna you could get out on an AMPS66 phone all the way
from Marathon to Naples and not lose service. If I went very far
offshore I would be looking into a digital phone with provisions for
an external antenna. The last time I tried it my old analog phone was
still working anyway. They just wanted some ridiculous amount per
minute to use it.


Yeah, but they work and work well.

Wayne has used APRS - an amateur radio tracking system to great
success - combined with Google Maps and Earth (the only thing Google
is good for in my opinion). If you did run into trouble, folks
tracking you using the service would have a recent position report to
work off of. I plan on using it on the Grady when we move south.

Then again, I also have sat phone backup. It may be expensive to use
per minute, but what's expense when you're in trouble.


Another choice has become available in the last year or so, the SPOT
device. The SPOT is a handheld unit that combines a GPS with a
satellite uplink transmitter. You can use it to send "help" messages
or to send position reports every 10 minutes which can be displayed on
a web site. Priced at $150 or so, it's not really a replacement for
an EPIRB but can be used that way in an emergency.

http://www.findmespot.com/en/

We used one to track our trip to the Bahamas last June and it worked
well. There are a few operational tricks that need to be learned but
by and large it is easy to use and does what it is supposed to.




John H.[_9_] October 20th 09 01:31 PM

sailign season is here
 
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:17:57 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"H the K" wrote in message
om...
On 10/19/09 4:04 PM, Tosk wrote:


Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...



Speaking of slobs, here's a short, fat little freak with a doo rag around
his head:

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-fat-freak.jpg


Yep...Scott Ingersoll. That's him.



Speaking about the Freak.....
I could have sworn I saw a picture of him with bigstyle ponytailed hair in a
salt & pepper colour.
In that rescue video, it appears that his hair is that mousy brown colour
from one of the mens hair dye products.
Is he dying his hair now...and if so, why not pick a half decent colour?


Hey Don, have you ever asked Harry why he keeps the picture of Scotty
if he's so down on him?

I have pictures of my kids, grandkids, etc, but damn, I sure don't
keep a picture of 'guys' I dislike to flash around.

mmc October 20th 09 02:12 PM

sailign season is here
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Oct 19, 2:03 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

...
On Oct 18, 8:53?pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message


...


At last, temps in the 60s, wind, real wind out of the north. ?So,
tommorow, I sail my 28' sloop 36 miles west to get her bottom painted
in prep for sailing southward. ?Everybody else is in school or
working
so I am taking the day off and going alone. ?I got an EPIRB, Hand
held
VHF, VHF, phone, etc.
See y'all tomorrow night.


Stay safe... wear your lifejacket!


--
Nom=de=Plume
Single handing is always a risk, don't forget your tether even if it
doesn't look bouncy starting out...
I am envious, I gotta work tomorrow, while your're having fun. Bah
Humbug!
Mike... !


If you have a tether, then I guess you don't need a lifejacket.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Did not go. Got to the coast and tried to start the engine, nothing,
even with compression relieved, she would barely turn over. Brought
both batteries back to town, had em checked, both refused to charge.
Replaced em, may try again tommorow if the tides are right.
BTW, I am a safety fanatic. If someone is on my boat, they are wearing
a life jacket unless they are below. I always wear a tether when
alone or at night. Also have an EPIRB w GPS on my auto-inflate jacket
and a strobe.


REPLY: what do you do if you have to take off the jacket? does the harness
stay with you... sounds like it.?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Should wear a PDF as well as the harness. If a person is incapacitated when
they hit the water, or is otherwise incapable of getting themselves back on
board, all the harness and tether is going to do is keep the corpse with the
boat. The good thing about this would be it would save CG funds since they
wouldn't have to mount a wider search.
It would be hard to pull against the +/- 6kts (approximate hull speed) for
anyone. I guess optimum would be for the harness to be long enough so that
the victim ends up in the right position to reach a ladder that can be
deployed from the water.



Don White October 20th 09 02:21 PM

sailign season is here
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:17:57 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"H the K" wrote in message
news:fbudnWnO3aabVUHXnZ2dnUVZ_uP_fwAA@earthlink. com...
On 10/19/09 4:04 PM, Tosk wrote:


Or a 300 pound slob like Harry...


Speaking of slobs, here's a short, fat little freak with a doo rag
around
his head:

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-fat-freak.jpg


Yep...Scott Ingersoll. That's him.



Speaking about the Freak.....
I could have sworn I saw a picture of him with bigstyle ponytailed hair in
a
salt & pepper colour.
In that rescue video, it appears that his hair is that mousy brown colour
from one of the mens hair dye products.
Is he dying his hair now...and if so, why not pick a half decent colour?


Hey Don, have you ever asked Harry why he keeps the picture of Scotty
if he's so down on him?

I have pictures of my kids, grandkids, etc, but damn, I sure don't
keep a picture of 'guys' I dislike to flash around.


You'll have to ask him...but I'd guess that 'a picture is worth a thousand
words'!




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