On 10/15/09 11:50 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Oct 15, 11:32 am, John wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:11 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


obama can't repair ALL the damage bush did in a few short months...

With the amount of money he's going through, he should be able to do a
lot better than he is.

meaningless. the fact is most of the money has not yet been spent


Where are all the infrastructure projects he was going to get going?

ROFLMAO!! you know, i'm an engineer and when i see an idiot like you
make a comment like that, it just confirms my view of the right wing.
you've never worked on an engineering project, have you?
\


Herring claims he was a combat engineer or something like that during
the war he helped lose in Vietnam. Maybe he helped clear minefields.

As an aside, I have seen signs in Maryland proclaiming that all or part
of the projects being described was funded with stimulus funds.

In Virginia, it took about 1 second to find this:




Published:23-July-2009

By WCIN Staff Writer


The Commonwealth of Virginia will receive $4.8 billion from ARRA.
Individuals, private organizations and businesses, and local governments
are also eligible for this funding.

The infrastructure allocations include $123 million for highway safety
and construction improvements; $116 million for regional transportation
projects selected by regional planning organizations; $116 million for
bridge replacement or repair; $114 million for pavement preservation and
restoration; $96 million for road construction associated with the base
realignment and closure (BRAC) process; $70 million for sewage plant
work; $62 million for rail improvements; $28 million for urban transit
projects; $21 million for transportation enhancement projects; $14
million for small urban transit projects; $19 million for clean drinking
water projects; $8 million for "green" clean water projects; $4 million
for rural transit projects, and $184 million for the Washington
Metropolitan Area Transit Authority, shared with Maryland and
Washington, DC.

Timothy M. Kaine, Governor of Richmond, said, “The projects will pay
long-term dividends to all of us in the form of improved bridges and
highways, railways and other transit, sewage treatment and drinking
water.



Herring, obviously, still has his head stuck way up his butt.


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On Oct 15, 11:59*am, H the K wrote:
On 10/15/09 11:50 AM, wf3h wrote:





On Oct 15, 11:32 am, John *wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:11 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

obama can't repair ALL the damage bush did in a few short months...

With the amount of money he's going through, he should be able to do a
lot better than he is.

meaningless. the fact is most of the money has not yet been spent

Where are all the infrastructure projects he was going to get going?

ROFLMAO!! you know, i'm an engineer and when i see an idiot like you
make a comment like that, it just confirms my view of the right wing.
you've never worked on an engineering project, have you?
\

Herring claims he was a combat engineer or something like that during
the war he helped lose in Vietnam. Maybe he helped clear minefields.

As an aside, I have seen signs in Maryland proclaiming that all or part
of the projects being described was funded with stimulus funds.

In Virginia, it took about 1 second to find this:

Published:23-July-2009

By WCIN Staff Writer

The Commonwealth of Virginia will receive $4.8 billion from ARRA.

exactly. they WILL receive funds...they then have to plan the
project, get rights of way, buy property, order material...etc etc
etc...

the morons of the right assume that roads just drop out of the sky.
the rest of us know they have to be built

On Oct 15, 11:51*am, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:34:37 -0400, Keith Nuttle

wrote:
It might be a good time to pick a "get out alive" price and place your
sell orders.

If you do that you will really lose money. *We stuck it out and have
recovered a good chunk of money lost we lost in the pelosi plunge and
obama slide.

OK do what you want but I bet there is a correction and you can buy
your position back for about 60-70%% of where it was when you sold it.

Some day soon it will occur to Wall Street that the American consumer
is broke. The fat cats may still be getting their bonuses but we still
have double digit unemployment and worse "underemployment" where
skilled trades are wearing orange aprons in empty Home Depots.

Real recovery will start when the middle class recovers.That hasn't
happened yet

and we'll just keep voting the rich into office because they tell us
they deserve to be rich

On 10/15/09 12:44 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Oct 15, 11:59 am, H the wrote:
On 10/15/09 11:50 AM, wf3h wrote:





On Oct 15, 11:32 am, John wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:11 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

obama can't repair ALL the damage bush did in a few short months...

With the amount of money he's going through, he should be able to do a
lot better than he is.

meaningless. the fact is most of the money has not yet been spent

Where are all the infrastructure projects he was going to get going?

ROFLMAO!! you know, i'm an engineer and when i see an idiot like you
make a comment like that, it just confirms my view of the right wing.
you've never worked on an engineering project, have you?
\

Herring claims he was a combat engineer or something like that during
the war he helped lose in Vietnam. Maybe he helped clear minefields.

As an aside, I have seen signs in Maryland proclaiming that all or part
of the projects being described was funded with stimulus funds.

In Virginia, it took about 1 second to find this:

Published:23-July-2009

By WCIN Staff Writer

The Commonwealth of Virginia will receive $4.8 billion from ARRA.

exactly. they WILL receive funds...they then have to plan the
project, get rights of way, buy property, order material...etc etc
etc...

the morons of the right assume that roads just drop out of the sky.
the rest of us know they have to be built


Morons of the right is so...right.
We certainly have a plethora of them in here...John Herring being a
prime example. But...his buddy Scott Ingersoll is even dumber.


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wrote in message
news
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:34:37 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

It might be a good time to pick a "get out alive" price and place your
sell orders.

If you do that you will really lose money. We stuck it out and have
recovered a good chunk of money lost we lost in the pelosi plunge and
obama slide.

OK do what you want but I bet there is a correction and you can buy
your position back for about 60-70%% of where it was when you sold it.

Some day soon it will occur to Wall Street that the American consumer
is broke. The fat cats may still be getting their bonuses but we still
have double digit unemployment and worse "underemployment" where
skilled trades are wearing orange aprons in empty Home Depots.

Real recovery will start when the middle class recovers.That hasn't
happened yet


There will likely be a correction toward the end of the year. This is what
I've heard from several sources. That doesn't mean it'll be a dramatic
correction. Corrections are normal and expected. It's foolish in the extreme
to attempt to time the market. The best strategy is dollar cost averaging
and diversification, both domestically and in foreign markets. The technical
recovery has begun, but unemployment will continue to climb, likely to 10 or
even 11 percent. That, coupled with underemployment and a rise in
foreclosures will likely continue for the next year or so. There's a
demographic shift also going on to an older population, and this will
continue to put pressure on the economy, as healthcare costs continue to
rise unless something dramatic is done.

My guess is that something fairly dramatic will be done regarding the
insurance company cartel (they are exempt from anti-trust laws). This will
likely get a lot of attention in the next few months. Certainly, over the
next few years, the insurance companies will prove to the general public
(and to Congress) that the current system is unsustainable, as many in both
groups still don't believe it. When that happens, it would probably be best
not to be heavily invested in such companies.

Thus spake the Oracle. lol


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On 10/15/09 12:51 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
news
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:34:37 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

It might be a good time to pick a "get out alive" price and place your
sell orders.

If you do that you will really lose money. We stuck it out and have
recovered a good chunk of money lost we lost in the pelosi plunge and
obama slide.

OK do what you want but I bet there is a correction and you can buy
your position back for about 60-70%% of where it was when you sold it.

Some day soon it will occur to Wall Street that the American consumer
is broke. The fat cats may still be getting their bonuses but we still
have double digit unemployment and worse "underemployment" where
skilled trades are wearing orange aprons in empty Home Depots.

Real recovery will start when the middle class recovers.That hasn't
happened yet


There will likely be a correction toward the end of the year. This is what
I've heard from several sources. That doesn't mean it'll be a dramatic
correction. Corrections are normal and expected. It's foolish in the extreme
to attempt to time the market. The best strategy is dollar cost averaging
and diversification, both domestically and in foreign markets. The technical
recovery has begun, but unemployment will continue to climb, likely to 10 or
even 11 percent. That, coupled with underemployment and a rise in
foreclosures will likely continue for the next year or so. There's a
demographic shift also going on to an older population, and this will
continue to put pressure on the economy, as healthcare costs continue to
rise unless something dramatic is done.

My guess is that something fairly dramatic will be done regarding the
insurance company cartel (they are exempt from anti-trust laws). This will
likely get a lot of attention in the next few months. Certainly, over the
next few years, the insurance companies will prove to the general public
(and to Congress) that the current system is unsustainable, as many in both
groups still don't believe it. When that happens, it would probably be best
not to be heavily invested in such companies.

Thus spake the Oracle. lol




I think the health insurers should lose their anti-trust exemptions.
Frankly, I don't know what public purpose private, for-profit health
insurers serve.

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wf3h wrote:
On Oct 15, 11:59 am, H the K wrote:
On 10/15/09 11:50 AM, wf3h wrote:





On Oct 15, 11:32 am, John wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:11 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
obama can't repair ALL the damage bush did in a few short months...
With the amount of money he's going through, he should be able to do a
lot better than he is.
meaningless. the fact is most of the money has not yet been spent
Where are all the infrastructure projects he was going to get going?
ROFLMAO!! you know, i'm an engineer and when i see an idiot like you
make a comment like that, it just confirms my view of the right wing.
you've never worked on an engineering project, have you?
\
Herring claims he was a combat engineer or something like that during
the war he helped lose in Vietnam. Maybe he helped clear minefields.

As an aside, I have seen signs in Maryland proclaiming that all or part
of the projects being described was funded with stimulus funds.

In Virginia, it took about 1 second to find this:

Published:23-July-2009

By WCIN Staff Writer

The Commonwealth of Virginia will receive $4.8 billion from ARRA.

exactly. they WILL receive funds...they then have to plan the
project, get rights of way, buy property, order material...etc etc
etc...

the morons of the right assume that roads just drop out of the sky.
the rest of us know they have to be built

Will you mutts please stop calling us names?

Wasn't something said about money going to projects that are shovel ready?

wf3h wrote:
On Oct 15, 11:51 am, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:34:37 -0400, Keith Nuttle

wrote:
It might be a good time to pick a "get out alive" price and place your
sell orders.
If you do that you will really lose money. We stuck it out and have
recovered a good chunk of money lost we lost in the pelosi plunge and
obama slide.
OK do what you want but I bet there is a correction and you can buy
your position back for about 60-70%% of where it was when you sold it.

Some day soon it will occur to Wall Street that the American consumer
is broke. The fat cats may still be getting their bonuses but we still
have double digit unemployment and worse "underemployment" where
skilled trades are wearing orange aprons in empty Home Depots.

Real recovery will start when the middle class recovers.That hasn't
happened yet

and we'll just keep voting the rich into office because they tell us
they deserve to be rich

You mutts need to start thinking for yourselves.

H the K wrote:
On 10/15/09 12:44 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Oct 15, 11:59 am, H the wrote:
On 10/15/09 11:50 AM, wf3h wrote:





On Oct 15, 11:32 am, John wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:11 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

obama can't repair ALL the damage bush did in a few short months...

With the amount of money he's going through, he should be able to do a
lot better than he is.

meaningless. the fact is most of the money has not yet been spent

Where are all the infrastructure projects he was going to get going?

ROFLMAO!! you know, i'm an engineer and when i see an idiot like you
make a comment like that, it just confirms my view of the right wing.
you've never worked on an engineering project, have you?
\

Herring claims he was a combat engineer or something like that during
the war he helped lose in Vietnam. Maybe he helped clear minefields.

As an aside, I have seen signs in Maryland proclaiming that all or part
of the projects being described was funded with stimulus funds.

In Virginia, it took about 1 second to find this:

Published:23-July-2009

By WCIN Staff Writer

The Commonwealth of Virginia will receive $4.8 billion from ARRA.

exactly. they WILL receive funds...they then have to plan the
project, get rights of way, buy property, order material...etc etc
etc...

the morons of the right assume that roads just drop out of the sky.
the rest of us know they have to be built


Morons of the right is so...right.
We certainly have a plethora of them in here...John Herring being a
prime example. But...his buddy Scott Ingersoll is even dumber.


You mutts seem to run in packs.

wf3h wrote:
On Oct 15, 11:31 am, Keith Nuttle wrote:
wf3h wrote:

don't rely on the right wing media for your news
If you would read what I referenced it is the daily closing for the DOW
for the last several year. That is not dependent on the obama news media.

the BLS says the recession started in 12/07.

regardless of your tin foil hat delusions. and bush was president

Again if you look at the DOW closing history, the financial bailout that
was passed, stabilized the market after the pelosi plunge until obama
took office, then it started the obama slide

obama slide? how is a 10,000 market a 'slide'?

do right wingers know how to count?

The market started to reclaim what it had lost when obama suffered his
first the small defeat at the hands of the congress in the middle of
March 2009.

Read the data.