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I saw a big sign on a very hot day recently, in a busy public place:
"Republicans Register to Vote Here." A black guy with dreadlocks stood behind the table. There was a cooler of sports drinks, and energy bars. I sat on the wall and talked to the guy. If someone registered as a Republican they got a cold drink and an energy bar. He told me he's homeless and was picked up at a homeless shelter, as were many others, to help register Republicans. He told me he got paid for each Republican he registered. I asked him about registering Democratic. No, you don't get a drink or energy bar. You can register, but he wasn't getting paid for that. I asked him if there was ever a few phonies thrown in to increase his pay. "Ya, we all do it." They catch most phonies eventually, but since they are paid daily, they don't have enough time to check. The Internet is full of similar stories. Yes Acorn probably did hire some questionable people to register people and they probably threw in a few phonies to increase their pay. Outrage against Acorn is easy to find, where's the outrage against rewarding people to register Republican? http://www.thenewmajority.com/oc/imp...xwze3sf4fstvun http://www.ocregister.com/articles/r...6-county-votes Baugh worked with the New Majority – a group of millionaire Republican businesspeople – to fund a massive registration drive in which hired hands were paid for each Republican they signed up. That drive was especially effective because many of those "bounty hunters" were already setting up in front of stores to collect signatures for the numerous Republican-supported initiative petitions circulating last year. |
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On Oct 7, 12:20*pm, Jim wrote:
Outrage against Acorn is easy to find, where's the outrage against rewarding people to register Republican? what? WHAT??? republicans CHEAT? who knew?! |
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wf3h wrote:
On Oct 7, 12:20 pm, Jim wrote: Outrage against Acorn is easy to find, where's the outrage against rewarding people to register Republican? what? WHAT??? republicans CHEAT? who knew?! Questionable tactics are ok when it's your side, but if anyone else is accused of the same thing, they make an hours expose on it and call the organization a criminal enterprise. Did Acorn pay for Democratic voters? If so it isn't like the Republicans don't pay for Republican voters. Can we expect Fox News to do an expose on the New Majority's registration tactics? |
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Jim wrote:
I saw a big sign on a very hot day recently, in a busy public place: "Republicans Register to Vote Here." A black guy with dreadlocks stood behind the table. There was a cooler of sports drinks, and energy bars. I sat on the wall and talked to the guy. If someone registered as a Republican they got a cold drink and an energy bar. He told me he's homeless and was picked up at a homeless shelter, as were many others, to help register Republicans. He told me he got paid for each Republican he registered. I asked him about registering Democratic. No, you don't get a drink or energy bar. You can register, but he wasn't getting paid for that. I asked him if there was ever a few phonies thrown in to increase his pay. "Ya, we all do it." They catch most phonies eventually, but since they are paid daily, they don't have enough time to check. The Internet is full of similar stories. Yes Acorn probably did hire some questionable people to register people and they probably threw in a few phonies to increase their pay. Outrage against Acorn is easy to find, where's the outrage against rewarding people to register Republican? http://www.thenewmajority.com/oc/imp...xwze3sf4fstvun http://www.ocregister.com/articles/r...6-county-votes Baugh worked with the New Majority – a group of millionaire Republican businesspeople – to fund a massive registration drive in which hired hands were paid for each Republican they signed up. That drive was especially effective because many of those "bounty hunters" were already setting up in front of stores to collect signatures for the numerous Republican-supported initiative petitions circulating last year. Mo http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6534 . . . this isn't the first time there have been serious problems with GOP-gathered voter registrations in CA, as outlined recently at Alternet. Looks like the GOP's voter registration record for errors far outpaced ACORN! Whaddaya know? (Our special coverage of the GOP's ACORN "Voter Fraud" Hoax is right here.http://www.bradblog.com/?page_id=6500) All of which proves only that the Republican noise making machine does a very good job of manipulating their followers to believe what they want you to believe. No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, Jim wrote:
No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, Jim wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic Well said. That the right doesn't understand the lack of equivalency is not a surprise. Double standards are among their strong suits. |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:20:07 -0700, Jim wrote:
I saw a big sign on a very hot day recently, in a busy public place: "Republicans Register to Vote Here." A black guy with dreadlocks stood behind the table. There was a cooler of sports drinks, and energy bars. I sat on the wall and talked to the guy. If someone registered as a Republican they got a cold drink and an energy bar. He told me he's homeless and was picked up at a homeless shelter, as were many others, to help register Republicans. He told me he got paid for each Republican he registered. I asked him about registering Democratic. No, you don't get a drink or energy bar. You can register, but he wasn't getting paid for that. I asked him if there was ever a few phonies thrown in to increase his pay. "Ya, we all do it." They catch most phonies eventually, but since they are paid daily, they don't have enough time to check. If they are registering phonies, as Acorn has done for years all over the country, then yes, I'm outraged. But, if they're getting some money to stand and register legitimate voters, I have no problem with that. Hell, lobbyists make a hell of a lot more money and they're buying congress critters. |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:33:17 -0700, Jim wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Oct 7, 12:20 pm, Jim wrote: Outrage against Acorn is easy to find, where's the outrage against rewarding people to register Republican? what? WHAT??? republicans CHEAT? who knew?! Questionable tactics are ok when it's your side, but if anyone else is accused of the same thing, they make an hours expose on it and call the organization a criminal enterprise. Did Acorn pay for Democratic voters? If so it isn't like the Republicans don't pay for Republican voters. Can we expect Fox News to do an expose on the New Majority's registration tactics? Is the New Majority being taken to court in a few dozen different cases? If the New Majority is pushing for fraudulent voter registration then they should be hung out to dry! |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, Jim wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. |
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On 10/7/09 7:22 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic Gay-er than, say, Glenn Beck? -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant
wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, Jim wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:22:14 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, Jim wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic Shep Smith is the news. When it's time for the news, then it's the news. The rest is entertainment, and doesn't bill itself as the news. The morning show presents news. |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:22:14 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, Jim wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic PS. I don't know if he's gay or not. What difference would it make? |
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H the K wrote:
On 10/7/09 7:22 PM, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic Gay-er than, say, Glenn Beck? Did you see the video of Glenn Beck being made up for a photo shoot for the dust jacket of his new book? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka_UW...eature=related He uses Vicks Vaporub under his eyes to make them water. He said, in the video, "I guess my eyes are getting used to it." Only person dumber than him is anyone who thinks he's for real. Fox News isn't helping our country by fueling ignorance. Fox News viewers seem to prefer ignorance. |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:10:59 -0700, Jim wrote:
H the K wrote: On 10/7/09 7:22 PM, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic Gay-er than, say, Glenn Beck? Did you see the video of Glenn Beck being made up for a photo shoot for the dust jacket of his new book? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka_UW...eature=related He uses Vicks Vaporub under his eyes to make them water. He said, in the video, "I guess my eyes are getting used to it." Only person dumber than him is anyone who thinks he's for real. Fox News isn't helping our country by fueling ignorance. Fox News viewers seem to prefer ignorance. 10:1 would be an approximate ratio in my estimation. It's incredible how they're able to suck folks in who it seems still have active brain cells. Juan Williams is starting to remind me of Hannity's former partner, a pseudo lefty with a milquetoast demeanor. |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:31:39 -0400, H the K
wrote: On 10/7/09 7:22 PM, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic Gay-er than, say, Glenn Beck? Oh don't you dare suggest Glenn is confused in any way. If Anna Nicole Smith were still alive, they'd be married by now. |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:00:18 -0400, John H Raant
wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:22:14 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, Jim wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic PS. I don't know if he's gay or not. What difference would it make? Quit dwelling on that. --Vic |
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jps wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:10:59 -0700, Jim wrote: H the K wrote: On 10/7/09 7:22 PM, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic Gay-er than, say, Glenn Beck? Did you see the video of Glenn Beck being made up for a photo shoot for the dust jacket of his new book? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka_UW...eature=related He uses Vicks Vaporub under his eyes to make them water. He said, in the video, "I guess my eyes are getting used to it." Only person dumber than him is anyone who thinks he's for real. Fox News isn't helping our country by fueling ignorance. Fox News viewers seem to prefer ignorance. 10:1 would be an approximate ratio in my estimation. It's incredible how they're able to suck folks in who it seems still have active brain cells. Juan Williams is starting to remind me of Hannity's former partner, a pseudo lefty with a milquetoast demeanor. I'll admit I'd rather hear something I disagree with and try to see their point once in a while. I watch Fox News looking to learn. It's interesting hearing their arguments. On Obama they are just saying anything that they can think of, but there's agreement so you know it official "Line of the day." Before Obama tried for the Olympics the argument was "He doesn't have time," or "The Olympics loose money," which isn't true. They point to one that hasn't happened as an example. I did, in a flash of inspiration, come to understand the ACORN issue from a FOX News program, "What's wrong with ACORN?" I don't agree, but I see their point. It's "How could those people work so hard to register people who didn't earn their position in MY society." The accusations against ACORN are basically foolish entrapment, and silly at that. Pimps and Hos. Well, that's how they see the people ACORN helps. Thanks Fox News for putting it out there for us to see. |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:47:16 -0700, Jim wrote:
jps wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:10:59 -0700, Jim wrote: H the K wrote: On 10/7/09 7:22 PM, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic Gay-er than, say, Glenn Beck? Did you see the video of Glenn Beck being made up for a photo shoot for the dust jacket of his new book? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka_UW...eature=related He uses Vicks Vaporub under his eyes to make them water. He said, in the video, "I guess my eyes are getting used to it." Only person dumber than him is anyone who thinks he's for real. Fox News isn't helping our country by fueling ignorance. Fox News viewers seem to prefer ignorance. 10:1 would be an approximate ratio in my estimation. It's incredible how they're able to suck folks in who it seems still have active brain cells. Juan Williams is starting to remind me of Hannity's former partner, a pseudo lefty with a milquetoast demeanor. I'll admit I'd rather hear something I disagree with and try to see their point once in a while. I watch Fox News looking to learn. It's interesting hearing their arguments. On Obama they are just saying anything that they can think of, but there's agreement so you know it official "Line of the day." Before Obama tried for the Olympics the argument was "He doesn't have time," or "The Olympics loose money," which isn't true. They point to one that hasn't happened as an example. I did, in a flash of inspiration, come to understand the ACORN issue from a FOX News program, "What's wrong with ACORN?" I don't agree, but I see their point. It's "How could those people work so hard to register people who didn't earn their position in MY society." The accusations against ACORN are basically foolish entrapment, and silly at that. Pimps and Hos. Well, that's how they see the people ACORN helps. Thanks Fox News for putting it out there for us to see. Exactly. An they scoff when we assume this is race-based bias? |
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ACORN Tactics
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:07:05 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:00:18 -0400, John H Raant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:22:14 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, Jim wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic PS. I don't know if he's gay or not. What difference would it make? Quit dwelling on that. --Vic Dwelling? I wasn't the one who brought it up! I simply asked why you might think it important. |
ACORN Tactics
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:10:59 -0700, Jim wrote:
H the K wrote: On 10/7/09 7:22 PM, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic Gay-er than, say, Glenn Beck? Did you see the video of Glenn Beck being made up for a photo shoot for the dust jacket of his new book? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka_UW...eature=related He uses Vicks Vaporub under his eyes to make them water. He said, in the video, "I guess my eyes are getting used to it." Only person dumber than him is anyone who thinks he's for real. Fox News isn't helping our country by fueling ignorance. Fox News viewers seem to prefer ignorance. How would you know? |
ACORN Tactics
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:35:02 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:10:59 -0700, Jim wrote: H the K wrote: On 10/7/09 7:22 PM, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic Gay-er than, say, Glenn Beck? Did you see the video of Glenn Beck being made up for a photo shoot for the dust jacket of his new book? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka_UW...eature=related He uses Vicks Vaporub under his eyes to make them water. He said, in the video, "I guess my eyes are getting used to it." Only person dumber than him is anyone who thinks he's for real. Fox News isn't helping our country by fueling ignorance. Fox News viewers seem to prefer ignorance. 10:1 would be an approximate ratio in my estimation. It's incredible how they're able to suck folks in who it seems still have active brain cells. Juan Williams is starting to remind me of Hannity's former partner, a pseudo lefty with a milquetoast demeanor. Williams began having problems several months ago. He started to realize the man he'd been championing was about as valuable as tits on a boar hog. I haven't seen him for several weeks, but even then you could sense his embarrassment about the guy running the country. Damn shame, really. Juan Williams was one liberal who made sense - sometimes. |
ACORN Tactics
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:55:28 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:47:16 -0700, Jim wrote: jps wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:10:59 -0700, Jim wrote: H the K wrote: On 10/7/09 7:22 PM, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:37:18 -0400, John H Rant wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:46:20 -0700, wrote: No noise making machine on the other side on the same scale. Dems don't have their own cable TV muckraking network. Closest is MSNBC, but it's not as pure as Fox, what with the likes of Joe Scarborough hosting a show, and regular guests like Buchanan and other conservative spokespeople. When Fox gets hold of a subject, it's hammered on show after show. Noisemaking machines need a strategic purpose, and the managerial guidance to stay on message. Fox does it best by far. --Vic What? Fox is the answer to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and especially, CNN. The difference is that as far as news goes, Fox is fair and balanced. They report, you decide. Haven't watched NBC, CBS, ABC network news in years. Only reason I know they exist is all the crying about them I hear on Fox. Sometimes here too. Think they're called MSM. Fox has a right agenda. It's no more "fair and balanced" than the others. Thankfully, all viewpoints/facts can be found if you look around. THEN you decide. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are not the 'news'. You tell me what is the "news" on the Fox News channel. It's mostly talking political heads like the other channels. Shep Smith? He's the only "balanced" guy on the whole damn network. Everybody else pretty much keeps to the script. Heard he's gay too, but I don't know, so I can't say. Won't even mention it. --Vic Gay-er than, say, Glenn Beck? Did you see the video of Glenn Beck being made up for a photo shoot for the dust jacket of his new book? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka_UW...eature=related He uses Vicks Vaporub under his eyes to make them water. He said, in the video, "I guess my eyes are getting used to it." Only person dumber than him is anyone who thinks he's for real. Fox News isn't helping our country by fueling ignorance. Fox News viewers seem to prefer ignorance. 10:1 would be an approximate ratio in my estimation. It's incredible how they're able to suck folks in who it seems still have active brain cells. Juan Williams is starting to remind me of Hannity's former partner, a pseudo lefty with a milquetoast demeanor. I'll admit I'd rather hear something I disagree with and try to see their point once in a while. I watch Fox News looking to learn. It's interesting hearing their arguments. On Obama they are just saying anything that they can think of, but there's agreement so you know it official "Line of the day." Before Obama tried for the Olympics the argument was "He doesn't have time," or "The Olympics loose money," which isn't true. They point to one that hasn't happened as an example. I did, in a flash of inspiration, come to understand the ACORN issue from a FOX News program, "What's wrong with ACORN?" I don't agree, but I see their point. It's "How could those people work so hard to register people who didn't earn their position in MY society." The accusations against ACORN are basically foolish entrapment, and silly at that. Pimps and Hos. Well, that's how they see the people ACORN helps. Thanks Fox News for putting it out there for us to see. Exactly. An they scoff when we assume this is race-based bias? The racist card. Scoff, scoff. |
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