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Capitalism, the movie
"Michael Moore's new movie slamming U.S. capitalism was boycotted by the
teachers' union. They say he used a non-union crew to shoot the movie so he could save money and make more profit. Next they'll find out that he shot the whole thing in Vancouver." - Argus Hamilton Isn't Moore one of the heroes of the loony left? |
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Lu Powell wrote:
"Michael Moore's new movie slamming U.S. capitalism was boycotted by the teachers' union. They say he used a non-union crew to shoot the movie so he could save money and make more profit. Next they'll find out that he shot the whole thing in Vancouver." - Argus Hamilton Isn't Moore one of the heroes of the loony left? Watch "Roger and Me," and see if he was right 20 years ago about GM. |
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ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too
funny...... it's a wonder he is still around...... |
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On 10/5/09 12:15 PM, Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote: "Michael Moore's new movie slamming U.S. capitalism was boycotted by the teachers' union. They say he used a non-union crew to shoot the movie so he could save money and make more profit. Next they'll find out that he shot the whole thing in Vancouver." - Argus Hamilton Isn't Moore one of the heroes of the loony left? Watch "Roger and Me," and see if he was right 20 years ago about GM. Lu-ser Powell was a public employee most of his working life. In other words, he sucked on the taxpayers' teat. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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H the K wrote:
On 10/5/09 12:15 PM, Jim wrote: Lu Powell wrote: "Michael Moore's new movie slamming U.S. capitalism was boycotted by the teachers' union. They say he used a non-union crew to shoot the movie so he could save money and make more profit. Next they'll find out that he shot the whole thing in Vancouver." - Argus Hamilton Isn't Moore one of the heroes of the loony left? Watch "Roger and Me," and see if he was right 20 years ago about GM. Lu-ser Powell was a public employee most of his working life. In other words, he sucked on the taxpayers' teat. As interpeted by Harold Krause who sucked at everything. |
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On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:50:43 -0400, Jim wrote:
H the K wrote: On 10/5/09 12:15 PM, Jim wrote: Lu Powell wrote: "Michael Moore's new movie slamming U.S. capitalism was boycotted by the teachers' union. They say he used a non-union crew to shoot the movie so he could save money and make more profit. Next they'll find out that he shot the whole thing in Vancouver." - Argus Hamilton Isn't Moore one of the heroes of the loony left? Watch "Roger and Me," and see if he was right 20 years ago about GM. Lu-ser Powell was a public employee most of his working life. In other words, he sucked on the taxpayers' teat. As interpeted by Harold Krause who sucked at everything. Aren't the 'Bamas sucking on the taxpayer's teat? And all they're doing is dicking things up. We shoulda sent Laura Bush and got the Olympics in Dallas. -- John H All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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H the K wrote:
On 10/5/09 12:15 PM, Jim wrote: Lu Powell wrote: "Michael Moore's new movie slamming U.S. capitalism was boycotted by the teachers' union. They say he used a non-union crew to shoot the movie so he could save money and make more profit. Next they'll find out that he shot the whole thing in Vancouver." - Argus Hamilton Isn't Moore one of the heroes of the loony left? Watch "Roger and Me," and see if he was right 20 years ago about GM. Lu-ser Powell was a public employee most of his working life. In other words, he sucked on the taxpayers' teat. Doesn't that mean he simply worked for the government? Last I checked, they were the largest employer. Michelle Obama employs a dozen, or so, right? |
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~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too funny...... it's a wonder he is still around...... Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care. He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be. I'll give you a clue: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn from. Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false info that fits their predisposed leanings. Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it works so well. |
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On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote:
~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too funny...... it's a wonder he is still around...... Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care. He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be. I'll give you a clue: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn from. Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false info that fits their predisposed leanings. Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it works so well. I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city shootings and knifings? Just wondering. |
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On Oct 6, 6:56*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too funny...... it's a wonder he is still around...... Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care. He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be. I'll give you a clue: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. *France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn from. Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false info that fits their predisposed leanings. Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. *And it works so well. I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city shootings and knifings? Just wondering.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - so you're arguing for gun control? i agree. let's ban guns |
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"wf3h" wrote in message
... On Oct 6, 6:56 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too funny...... it's a wonder he is still around...... Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care. He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be. I'll give you a clue: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn from. Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false info that fits their predisposed leanings. Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it works so well. I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city shootings and knifings? Just wondering.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - so you're arguing for gun control? i agree. let's ban guns Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. "Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible? |
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"Jim" wrote in message
m... Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. "Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible? ? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Oct 6, 10:24*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. *France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. The only question I have is why do you think getting the government involved will make that any cheaper or better? because other countries where the govt is involved have better and cheaper healthcare. it's something we can actually test These are the same people who bought the $600 toilet seats and the $300 hammer. as opposed to the 50% decline in the stock market in the last year? the right keeps pretending the free market is perfect. and that ain't so. |
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says... "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Oct 6, 6:56 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too funny...... it's a wonder he is still around...... Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care. He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be. I'll give you a clue: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn from. Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false info that fits their predisposed leanings. Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it works so well. I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city shootings and knifings? Just wondering.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - so you're arguing for gun control? i agree. let's ban guns Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. You are Harry's sister. Or his feminine id. |
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On 10/7/09 7:59 AM, BAR wrote:
In , says... wrote in message ... On Oct 6, 6:56 pm, John wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too funny...... it's a wonder he is still around...... Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care. He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be. I'll give you a clue: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn from. Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false info that fits their predisposed leanings. Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it works so well. I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city shootings and knifings? Just wondering.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - so you're arguing for gun control? i agree. let's ban guns Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. You are Harry's sister. Or his feminine id. You and herring still playing bend over to pick up the soap in the showers at the marine golf course? -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On 10/7/09 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. "Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible? ? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up. You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold it. It will NOT knock you on your butt. We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot 12 gauge. Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in general. What? Shoot defenseless skeet? Are you unaware of the good work done by the Save the Skeets Foundation? http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Skeets/ Seriously, the Rem 870 20 gauge youth model (i'm guessing here) is a fine shotgun, and "Ms. Nom" ought to learn to fire it safely. There's not that much kick, and if it is troublesome, a pad can be installed. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Oct 7, 8:01*am, BAR wrote:
If you think that $27 Tylenol in the hospitial is expensive just wait until the government gets a hold of all of the health care. hmmm...guess he doesn't know what the 'free market' did to the stock market in the last year... |
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On Oct 5, 12:58*pm, Gene wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:12:15 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: Isn't Moore one of the heroes of the loony left? Seems more in tune with your post, that Moore hates Capitalism and sees Unionized workers as part of his despised Capitalist Society.... It's a good thing the movie was a flop and didn't make any money... that would be capitalism. ;- |
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I wouldn't pick out Medicare as a good example. They collect 3% of every wage dollar earned in the country, only provide health care for about 15% of the population and they are going broke. Their waste and fraud rate is worse than the insurance company "overhead" we keep hearing about. Hard to know what to believe. The Republicans have always been opposed to Social Security and Medicare. Info from that side is, and always will be, that these programs don't work. Republicans have been opposed to child labor laws, and worker protection laws. They have favored poll taxes and I'm sure there are many who would like to go back to the days of only white male property owners being able to vote. By the way, I had a moment of awakening while watching Fox News "What's the matter with Acorn." I now understand the issue with Acorn. It's exactly the paragraph above. Acorn gave rights to people who the Republican's deep down don't believe deserve the same rights and privileges that the rest enjoy. It's the voter registration drive that really ****es them off. How DARE them register people who didn't earn their place in society. |
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BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. The only question I have is why do you think getting the government involved will make that any cheaper or better? These are the same people who bought the $600 toilet seats and the $300 hammer. Maybe if you could shoot all the lobbyists and lawyers it might work but you would still have all those gold bricking congressmen trying to get more federal bucks into their district. If you think that $27 Tylenol in the hospitial is expensive just wait until the government gets a hold of all of the health care. The $27 bottle of Tylenol is exactly the problem, but it's an example. You know how many people pay their medical bills? 2/3. It's up to these people to pay for the others. That's why medical bills contain prices like this. Free enterprise, profits must be made, and who is to pay for those who don't? You and I. We pay more than any other country for medical care. What's YOUR idea? Throwing stones isn't a solution. By the way, "just wait until the government gets a hold of all of the health care" is a scare tactic. Stop being a junior Sara Palin. |
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On Oct 7, 11:55*am, Jim wrote:
It's exactly the paragraph above. *Acorn gave rights to people who the Republican's deep down don't believe deserve the same rights and privileges that the rest enjoy. *It's the voter registration drive that really ****es them off. *How DARE them register people who didn't earn their place in society. i don't think they've ever really changed their position from the 1957 article william f. buckley wrote extolling the virtues of white civilization and insisting poll taxes, literacy tests, etc, be used to screen voters. |
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... On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jim" wrote in message news:DJWdnR4ul_UAhlHXnZ2dnUVZ_uNi4p2d@earthlink. com... Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. "Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible? ? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up. You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold it. It will NOT knock you on your butt. We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot 12 gauge. Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in general. I know how, but it's pretty powerful. I'd imagine that I'd be pretty freaked out having to shoot at someone, be in bare feet on a slippery floor, etc. Besides, I don't weight that much (or so I'm claiming). -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"H the K" wrote in message
m... On 10/7/09 2:07 AM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. "Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible? ? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up. You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold it. It will NOT knock you on your butt. We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot 12 gauge. Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in general. What? Shoot defenseless skeet? Are you unaware of the good work done by the Save the Skeets Foundation? http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Skeets/ Seriously, the Rem 870 20 gauge youth model (i'm guessing here) is a fine shotgun, and "Ms. Nom" ought to learn to fire it safely. There's not that much kick, and if it is troublesome, a pad can be installed. It's Em. I was not completely serious about it actually knocking me down, but I don't think I'd be in much control after the first shot. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"BAR" wrote in message
. .. In article , says... "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Oct 6, 6:56 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too funny...... it's a wonder he is still around...... Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care. He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be. I'll give you a clue: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn from. Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false info that fits their predisposed leanings. Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it works so well. I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city shootings and knifings? Just wondering.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - so you're arguing for gun control? i agree. let's ban guns Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. You are Harry's sister. Or his feminine id. Sorry... This must be a fantasy of yours, but it's just not true. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 10/7/09 3:51 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"H the wrote in message m... On 10/7/09 2:07 AM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. "Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible? ? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up. You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold it. It will NOT knock you on your butt. We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot 12 gauge. Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in general. What? Shoot defenseless skeet? Are you unaware of the good work done by the Save the Skeets Foundation? http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Skeets/ Seriously, the Rem 870 20 gauge youth model (i'm guessing here) is a fine shotgun, and "Ms. Nom" ought to learn to fire it safely. There's not that much kick, and if it is troublesome, a pad can be installed. It's Em. I was not completely serious about it actually knocking me down, but I don't think I'd be in much control after the first shot. A 20-gauge doesn't have a lot of kick, not even to a woman who doesn't weigh much. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On 10/7/09 3:52 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message . .. In , says... wrote in message ... On Oct 6, 6:56 pm, John wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too funny...... it's a wonder he is still around...... Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care. He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be. I'll give you a clue: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn from. Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false info that fits their predisposed leanings. Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it works so well. I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city shootings and knifings? Just wondering.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - so you're arguing for gun control? i agree. let's ban guns Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. You are Harry's sister. Or his feminine id. Sorry... This must be a fantasy of yours, but it's just not true. The stupidos on the right cannot fathom those who won't drink their kool-aid. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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"H the K" wrote in message
... On 10/7/09 3:51 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "H the wrote in message m... On 10/7/09 2:07 AM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. "Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible? ? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up. You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold it. It will NOT knock you on your butt. We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot 12 gauge. Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in general. What? Shoot defenseless skeet? Are you unaware of the good work done by the Save the Skeets Foundation? http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Skeets/ Seriously, the Rem 870 20 gauge youth model (i'm guessing here) is a fine shotgun, and "Ms. Nom" ought to learn to fire it safely. There's not that much kick, and if it is troublesome, a pad can be installed. It's Em. I was not completely serious about it actually knocking me down, but I don't think I'd be in much control after the first shot. A 20-gauge doesn't have a lot of kick, not even to a woman who doesn't weigh much. Sure seemed like a lot to me when I tried it at a range. It didn't hurt, but it sure pushed me back. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"H the K" wrote in message ... On 10/7/09 3:51 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "H the wrote in message m... On 10/7/09 2:07 AM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. "Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible? ? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up. You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold it. It will NOT knock you on your butt. We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot 12 gauge. Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in general. What? Shoot defenseless skeet? Are you unaware of the good work done by the Save the Skeets Foundation? http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Skeets/ Seriously, the Rem 870 20 gauge youth model (i'm guessing here) is a fine shotgun, and "Ms. Nom" ought to learn to fire it safely. There's not that much kick, and if it is troublesome, a pad can be installed. It's Em. I was not completely serious about it actually knocking me down, but I don't think I'd be in much control after the first shot. A 20-gauge doesn't have a lot of kick, not even to a woman who doesn't weigh much. Yup...not much kick from my 20 ga. We used to like holding the 12 ga shotguns at hip level and blast off whatever it was capable of holding. (just like in the movies) |
Capitalism, the movie
On 10/7/09 4:24 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"H the wrote in message ... On 10/7/09 3:51 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "H the wrote in message m... On 10/7/09 2:07 AM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. "Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible? ? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up. You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold it. It will NOT knock you on your butt. We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot 12 gauge. Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in general. What? Shoot defenseless skeet? Are you unaware of the good work done by the Save the Skeets Foundation? http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Skeets/ Seriously, the Rem 870 20 gauge youth model (i'm guessing here) is a fine shotgun, and "Ms. Nom" ought to learn to fire it safely. There's not that much kick, and if it is troublesome, a pad can be installed. It's Em. I was not completely serious about it actually knocking me down, but I don't think I'd be in much control after the first shot. A 20-gauge doesn't have a lot of kick, not even to a woman who doesn't weigh much. Sure seemed like a lot to me when I tried it at a range. It didn't hurt, but it sure pushed me back. Then you might not have been "shouldering" it properly. Take a look at this video...ignore the awful music and the weird looking dudes. Remember, near the beginning, the instructor tells the woman to lean into it... Sometimes women (and men, too) have a rough time shooting a semi-auto pistol...the pistol doesn't seem to cycle properly and jams. Usually the cause is that they've limp-wristed the pistol. That means that they are not pushing against the pistol with the stretch of hand between the thumb and pointer finger on the shooting hand. You need a tight grip on the pistol so you can push back a bit on the recoil. The pistol needs that resistance. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
Capitalism, the movie
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:59:09 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Oct 6, 6:56 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too funny...... it's a wonder he is still around...... Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care. He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be. I'll give you a clue: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn from. Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false info that fits their predisposed leanings. Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it works so well. I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city shootings and knifings? Just wondering.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - so you're arguing for gun control? i agree. let's ban guns Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. You are Harry's sister. Or his feminine id. Actually, a few of us think she's really Harry - exercising his 'feminine side', so to speak. |
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:26:47 -0700, Jim wrote:
BAR wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. The only question I have is why do you think getting the government involved will make that any cheaper or better? These are the same people who bought the $600 toilet seats and the $300 hammer. Maybe if you could shoot all the lobbyists and lawyers it might work but you would still have all those gold bricking congressmen trying to get more federal bucks into their district. If you think that $27 Tylenol in the hospitial is expensive just wait until the government gets a hold of all of the health care. The $27 bottle of Tylenol is exactly the problem, but it's an example. You know how many people pay their medical bills? 2/3. It's up to these people to pay for the others. That's why medical bills contain prices like this. Free enterprise, profits must be made, and who is to pay for those who don't? You and I. We pay more than any other country for medical care. What's YOUR idea? Throwing stones isn't a solution. Sending about 15 million illegals back to Mexico would be a good start. By the way, "just wait until the government gets a hold of all of the health care" is a scare tactic. Stop being a junior Sara Palin. There's nothing wrong with valid scare tactics. You should be afraid of rattlesnakes and rabid dogs. |
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"H the K" wrote in message
... On 10/7/09 4:24 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "H the wrote in message ... On 10/7/09 3:51 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "H the wrote in message m... On 10/7/09 2:07 AM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. "Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible? ? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up. You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold it. It will NOT knock you on your butt. We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot 12 gauge. Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in general. What? Shoot defenseless skeet? Are you unaware of the good work done by the Save the Skeets Foundation? http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Skeets/ Seriously, the Rem 870 20 gauge youth model (i'm guessing here) is a fine shotgun, and "Ms. Nom" ought to learn to fire it safely. There's not that much kick, and if it is troublesome, a pad can be installed. It's Em. I was not completely serious about it actually knocking me down, but I don't think I'd be in much control after the first shot. A 20-gauge doesn't have a lot of kick, not even to a woman who doesn't weigh much. Sure seemed like a lot to me when I tried it at a range. It didn't hurt, but it sure pushed me back. Then you might not have been "shouldering" it properly. Take a look at this video...ignore the awful music and the weird looking dudes. Remember, near the beginning, the instructor tells the woman to lean into it... Sometimes women (and men, too) have a rough time shooting a semi-auto pistol...the pistol doesn't seem to cycle properly and jams. Usually the cause is that they've limp-wristed the pistol. That means that they are not pushing against the pistol with the stretch of hand between the thumb and pointer finger on the shooting hand. You need a tight grip on the pistol so you can push back a bit on the recoil. The pistol needs that resistance. Video? You know we're talking about a shotgun right? I've fired a handgun before. It didn't seem to be a problem... -- Nom=de=Plume |
Capitalism, the movie
"John H Rant" wrote in message
... On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:59:09 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Oct 6, 6:56 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, Jim wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too funny...... it's a wonder he is still around...... Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care. He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be. I'll give you a clue: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn from. Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false info that fits their predisposed leanings. Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it works so well. I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city shootings and knifings? Just wondering.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - so you're arguing for gun control? i agree. let's ban guns Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. You are Harry's sister. Or his feminine id. Actually, a few of us think she's really Harry - exercising his 'feminine side', so to speak. Perhaps a few of you are just plain ignorant or have a strange fixation with Harry... since you've plonked me, I guess we'll never know. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Capitalism, the movie
On 10/7/09 5:32 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"H the wrote in message ... On 10/7/09 4:24 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "H the wrote in message ... On 10/7/09 3:51 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "H the wrote in message m... On 10/7/09 2:07 AM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:11:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. "Youth Model," funny. Did it come with a bible? ? You never heard of that? It's for women or smaller people. Look it up. You really should go shoot it and get used to the proper way to hold it. It will NOT knock you on your butt. We had lots of ladies on the skeet league I was on and they all shot 12 gauge. Skeet is an excellent shooting sport if you have a facility nearby and they usually have certified instructors there who will teach you everything you need to know about safe shooting and the game in general. What? Shoot defenseless skeet? Are you unaware of the good work done by the Save the Skeets Foundation? http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Skeets/ Seriously, the Rem 870 20 gauge youth model (i'm guessing here) is a fine shotgun, and "Ms. Nom" ought to learn to fire it safely. There's not that much kick, and if it is troublesome, a pad can be installed. It's Em. I was not completely serious about it actually knocking me down, but I don't think I'd be in much control after the first shot. A 20-gauge doesn't have a lot of kick, not even to a woman who doesn't weigh much. Sure seemed like a lot to me when I tried it at a range. It didn't hurt, but it sure pushed me back. Then you might not have been "shouldering" it properly. Take a look at this video...ignore the awful music and the weird looking dudes. Remember, near the beginning, the instructor tells the woman to lean into it... Sometimes women (and men, too) have a rough time shooting a semi-auto pistol...the pistol doesn't seem to cycle properly and jams. Usually the cause is that they've limp-wristed the pistol. That means that they are not pushing against the pistol with the stretch of hand between the thumb and pointer finger on the shooting hand. You need a tight grip on the pistol so you can push back a bit on the recoil. The pistol needs that resistance. Video? You know we're talking about a shotgun right? I've fired a handgun before. It didn't seem to be a problem... This video...on shooting a shotgun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNSVr0eJ_aA -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
Capitalism, the movie
On 10/7/09 5:33 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"John H wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:59:09 -0400, wrote: In , says... wrote in message ... On Oct 6, 6:56 pm, John wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:52:58 -0700, wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: ha...watch the fat pig discuss health care in america...too funny...... it's a wonder he is still around...... Just like in "Roger and Me," where he told us of GM's impending challenges, the "fat pig" might have a point to make on health care. He made quite a few in "Sicko," but you would have to get past the name calling to take a look at it to see what that point might be. I'll give you a clue: The US is #1 ONLY in how much we pay, we are not #1 in life expectancy, or any other measure of health care. France, which has the #1 rated health care system (we are #27) pays half what we pay. You have to get over your bias towards new information to accept that France, or any number of other countries, might be a place we can learn from. Watching out Health Care "debate" makes me wonder about how we can expect to ever be #1 at anything when there are so many people willing to accept outright lies as fact, and make their choices based upon false info that fits their predisposed leanings. Name calling is so much easier for the mentally challenged. And it works so well. I wonder how many illegal aliens are adding to the bad statistics in France? I wonder how many of France's deaths are caused by inner city shootings and knifings? Just wondering.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - so you're arguing for gun control? i agree. let's ban guns Hey, I have a gun. You don't want to break into my place in the middle of the night. I have a Remingten 20 guage youth model. I don't think I would be able to take more than one shot, since it would like to knock me on my butt. My granddad got it for me a couple of years ago. You are Harry's sister. Or his feminine id. Actually, a few of us think she's really Harry - exercising his 'feminine side', so to speak. Perhaps a few of you are just plain ignorant or have a strange fixation with Harry... since you've plonked me, I guess we'll never know. A bunch of the righties here *are* ignorant, irrational, and fixated. Herring, floridajim, justhate, et cetera, have very little to offer here but hate. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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