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On Oct 3, 8:35 pm, The D wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Oct 3, 7:00 pm, The D wrote:

Learn a new trick, pony. Obama is printing money at an unprecedented
rate to pay *his* bills.

uh...no. it was bernanke's policy under bush and it's been bernanke's
policy under obama to stablize the economy via keynesian economics.
this was necessary because bush's free market chicago school
fundamentalism caused

1. an unprecedented transfer of wealth from the middle class to the
rich
2. the collapse of the economy

bush ****ed the middle class. obama's trying to clean up his mess.

bush, not obama, has been president for the last 8 years

The Dems have been in control of congress long
enough to take responsibility for that *and* what preceded his
inauguration, WAFA. The stimulus plan is hugely flawed. This, for
example, is a ****ing joke!

the stimulus plan was developed under bush by bernanke.

i know you rednecks don't have a long memory, but DO try to keep up
with events, m'kay?

And Obama has decided to keep Ben Bernanke in his post at the Fed for
four more years, m,kay? If he was doing such a bad job with Bush, why
would he keep him?-

jesus h. and myron w. christ...do you EVER read for comprehension?

did i say he was doing a bad job? what i said was that the plan was
developed by bernanke to control the damage started by bush.

BUSH CREATED THE MELTDOWN.

there. does that help you?

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On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:55:12 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:



BUSH CREATED THE MELTDOWN.


I don't think it's so simple.
We need to make the stuff we use.
The "service economy" only worked because it was built on ever
increasing debt, the imaginary inflated values of stock equities and
real estate, and foreign labor. It was destined to fail.
Some good questions to always ask yourself:
"What am I producing?"
"Who is paying my wages?"
"What are *they* producing?"
"Will they run out of money to pay me?"
Consider those questions for a while.
Then...load the cooler into the boat and go fishing.

--Vic

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On Oct 3, 10:43*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Oct 3, 1:34 pm, Frogwatch wrote:

On Oct 3, 1:11 pm, wf3h wrote:

the right doesn't like big cities because people have different ideas..
they romanticize the plantation mentality of the mid 19th century,
where everyone knew their place.

The Obama admin and the Dem congress have been huge failures having
accomplished nothing except the destruction of our economy.

uh...newsflash, genius: the economy collapsed under bush. i know you
rednecks wish it wasnt true, but it's a fact. sorry to send you
screaming into the night

These

people who think thye are so smart have completely failed at
everything they have tried to do evn though they have nothing in their
way. This is an historical level of failure and incompetence.

says the guy who thinks obama's been president for 8 years.

The economy was set to fail going back before bush. *Mostly because
Greenspan let the economy go in to a dot.com bubble, and The Congress, under
both parties spent almost all the excess revenue, and committed in to the
future. *The Greenspan the Incompetant, made money almost free, along with
The Congress to cause a housing bubble, with huge leverages, etc. *There was
no way the economy was not going to melt down. *No matter who was in charge
of The Presidency of The Congress at the time. *Bush did not help the
situation by starting a 2nd front in Iraq, but there was going to be a
failure anyway in the economy! *And Obama and The Congress has hurt the
situation with his and The Congress EXCESS spending

how is it excess spending if the consumer isnt spending? who's going
to keep the economy moving? do we let it collapse?

.. *Excess in the wrong
places. *And he has taken more money from the middle class to give to the
rich than Bush could imagine. *GoldmanSackus gave out $6.5 billion in bonus
money. *Where did the money come from? *Mostly the $18 billion of the lots
of billions Obama and The Congress gave to AIG to bail them out. *They did
not earn any bonus. *They should have been fired by the Board of Directors
and the stockholders for almost bankrupting the company. *Get your facts
straight before kissing the ground that Obama and The Present Congress is
walking on. *They should all be fired.

the person who should be fired is milton friedman and the boys at the
u. of chicago economics dept.

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On 10/4/09 12:03 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:55:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:



BUSH CREATED THE MELTDOWN.


I don't think it's so simple.
We need to make the stuff we use.
The "service economy" only worked because it was built on ever
increasing debt, the imaginary inflated values of stock equities and
real estate, and foreign labor. It was destined to fail.
Some good questions to always ask yourself:
"What am I producing?"
"Who is paying my wages?"
"What are *they* producing?"
"Will they run out of money to pay me?"
Consider those questions for a while.
Then...load the cooler into the boat and go fishing.

--Vic



More accurately, Bush presided over the government during the major
portion of "the meltdown," and did virtually nothing while it was
happening. In retrospect, I think Bush was almost entirely detached from
the duties of his office, and let his underlings handle almost every
policy decision, so he could spend a huge chunk of his presidency on
vacation.

Bush was lazy physically, intellectually, and emotionally, about his
presidency. He was the worst president of the past 100 years, and I
don't think anyone else is even close.




--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

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On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:27:20 -0400, H the K
wrote:

On 10/4/09 12:03 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:55:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:



BUSH CREATED THE MELTDOWN.


I don't think it's so simple.
We need to make the stuff we use.
The "service economy" only worked because it was built on ever
increasing debt, the imaginary inflated values of stock equities and
real estate, and foreign labor. It was destined to fail.
Some good questions to always ask yourself:
"What am I producing?"
"Who is paying my wages?"
"What are *they* producing?"
"Will they run out of money to pay me?"
Consider those questions for a while.
Then...load the cooler into the boat and go fishing.

--Vic



More accurately, Bush presided over the government during the major
portion of "the meltdown," and did virtually nothing while it was
happening. In retrospect, I think Bush was almost entirely detached from
the duties of his office, and let his underlings handle almost every
policy decision, so he could spend a huge chunk of his presidency on
vacation.

Bush was lazy physically, intellectually, and emotionally, about his
presidency. He was the worst president of the past 100 years, and I
don't think anyone else is even close.

Bush is gone. Unemployment is here, at 9.8.
Besides, Wall Street has been running the U.S. since at least the late
80's.
The pols, both D and R, are still largely creatures of Wall Street and
globalism.
But that will change, dependant only on the sun rising.
Be patient. That's the key to fishing too.
Picking a good spot helps.

--Vic

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On 10/4/09 12:41 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:27:20 -0400, H the K
wrote:

On 10/4/09 12:03 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:55:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:



BUSH CREATED THE MELTDOWN.


I don't think it's so simple.
We need to make the stuff we use.
The "service economy" only worked because it was built on ever
increasing debt, the imaginary inflated values of stock equities and
real estate, and foreign labor. It was destined to fail.
Some good questions to always ask yourself:
"What am I producing?"
"Who is paying my wages?"
"What are *they* producing?"
"Will they run out of money to pay me?"
Consider those questions for a while.
Then...load the cooler into the boat and go fishing.

--Vic



More accurately, Bush presided over the government during the major
portion of "the meltdown," and did virtually nothing while it was
happening. In retrospect, I think Bush was almost entirely detached from
the duties of his office, and let his underlings handle almost every
policy decision, so he could spend a huge chunk of his presidency on
vacation.

Bush was lazy physically, intellectually, and emotionally, about his
presidency. He was the worst president of the past 100 years, and I
don't think anyone else is even close.

Bush is gone. Unemployment is here, at 9.8.
Besides, Wall Street has been running the U.S. since at least the late
80's.
The pols, both D and R, are still largely creatures of Wall Street and
globalism.
But that will change, dependant only on the sun rising.
Be patient. That's the key to fishing too.
Picking a good spot helps.

--Vic

Bush is gone, but his stench remains.


--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

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"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Oct 3, 10:43 pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Oct 3, 1:34 pm, Frogwatch wrote:

On Oct 3, 1:11 pm, wf3h wrote:

the right doesn't like big cities because people have different ideas.
they romanticize the plantation mentality of the mid 19th century,
where everyone knew their place.

The Obama admin and the Dem congress have been huge failures having
accomplished nothing except the destruction of our economy.

uh...newsflash, genius: the economy collapsed under bush. i know you
rednecks wish it wasnt true, but it's a fact. sorry to send you
screaming into the night

These

people who think thye are so smart have completely failed at
everything they have tried to do evn though they have nothing in their
way. This is an historical level of failure and incompetence.

says the guy who thinks obama's been president for 8 years.

The economy was set to fail going back before bush. Mostly because
Greenspan let the economy go in to a dot.com bubble, and The Congress,
under
both parties spent almost all the excess revenue, and committed in to the
future. The Greenspan the Incompetant, made money almost free, along with
The Congress to cause a housing bubble, with huge leverages, etc. There
was
no way the economy was not going to melt down. No matter who was in charge
of The Presidency of The Congress at the time. Bush did not help the
situation by starting a 2nd front in Iraq, but there was going to be a
failure anyway in the economy! And Obama and The Congress has hurt the
situation with his and The Congress EXCESS spending

how is it excess spending if the consumer isnt spending? who's going
to keep the economy moving? do we let it collapse?

.. Excess in the wrong
places. And he has taken more money from the middle class to give to the
rich than Bush could imagine. GoldmanSackus gave out $6.5 billion in bonus
money. Where did the money come from? Mostly the $18 billion of the lots
of billions Obama and The Congress gave to AIG to bail them out. They did
not earn any bonus. They should have been fired by the Board of Directors
and the stockholders for almost bankrupting the company. Get your facts
straight before kissing the ground that Obama and The Present Congress is
walking on. They should all be fired.

the person who should be fired is milton friedman and the boys at the
u. of chicago economics dept.

Maybe, but they are not the ones in charge of policy and the money supply.

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wf3h wrote:
On Oct 3, 8:35 pm, The D wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Oct 3, 7:00 pm, The D wrote:
Learn a new trick, pony. Obama is printing money at an unprecedented
rate to pay *his* bills.
uh...no. it was bernanke's policy under bush and it's been bernanke's
policy under obama to stablize the economy via keynesian economics.
this was necessary because bush's free market chicago school
fundamentalism caused
1. an unprecedented transfer of wealth from the middle class to the
rich
2. the collapse of the economy
bush ****ed the middle class. obama's trying to clean up his mess.
bush, not obama, has been president for the last 8 years
The Dems have been in control of congress long
enough to take responsibility for that *and* what preceded his
inauguration, WAFA. The stimulus plan is hugely flawed. This, for
example, is a ****ing joke!
the stimulus plan was developed under bush by bernanke.
i know you rednecks don't have a long memory, but DO try to keep up
with events, m'kay?
And Obama has decided to keep Ben Bernanke in his post at the Fed for
four more years, m,kay? If he was doing such a bad job with Bush, why
would he keep him?-

jesus h. and myron w. christ...do you EVER read for comprehension?

did i say he was doing a bad job? what i said was that the plan was
developed by bernanke to control the damage started by bush.

BUSH CREATED THE MELTDOWN.

there. does that help you?

Under the watch of the democratic congress?

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On Oct 4, 7:52*pm, Roger wrote:
wf3h wrote:


BUSH CREATED THE MELTDOWN.

there. does that help you?

Under the watch of the democratic congress?-

unfortunately, no. for 6 of the last 8 years, the GOP ran the country.
and they ran it into the ground at the behest of their paymasters

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On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:10:57 -0700, Jim wrote:

Hard to see how we could ever be a success at anything when there's so
many people working for failure, and these are the guys who ignore the
last eight years of failure.

Wouldn't it be refreshing for someone on the left, or the right, to
say something like: "Let's put our differences aside and do what's
best for the country".