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... http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1145093.html Ahab... oh sorry, I was clearing my throat. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:14:12 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1145093.html A fourth remake of Moby Dick? Jesus - no wonder Hollywood can't make any money. Don't they have any original ideas? |
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On 9/30/09 7:17 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:14:12 -0300, "Don White" wrote: http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1145093.html A fourth remake of Moby Dick? Jesus - no wonder Hollywood can't make any money. Don't they have any original ideas? We're sorry, but your life story was turned down...again. There's just not much of an audience for a movie about an overly sensitive ex-marine with a short fuse. Sorry. I almost agree, btw...the Gregory Peck version is a remarkable movie, and the recent remakes aren't even close to it. The book, in my opinion, is the greatest American novel to date. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:17:23 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:14:12 -0300, "Don White" wrote: http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1145093.html A fourth remake of Moby Dick? Jesus - no wonder Hollywood can't make any money. Don't they have any original ideas? http://www.capitalismalovestory.com/ How original do you want? -- John H All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:17:23 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
Jesus - no wonder Hollywood can't make any money. Don't they have any original ideas? Nope, there are six, maybe seven, plots used in movies. Any creativity used, is in making them look fresh. For the most part, it doesn't work. |
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On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:54:53 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:17:23 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Jesus - no wonder Hollywood can't make any money. Don't they have any original ideas? Nope, there are six, maybe seven, plots used in movies. Any creativity used, is in making them look fresh. For the most part, it doesn't work. Um...well, that's one way of looking at it. There are seven basic themes, six basic elements and seven basic plots. Themes: The Quest, Voyage and Return, Rebirth, Comedy, Tragedy, Overcoming, Rags to Riches Elements: Character, Action (or Plot), Ideas, Language, Music, Spectacle (according to Aristotle). Plots: versus: nature, man, the environment, machines/technology, supernatural, self, god(s)/religion There are some who want to stretch each, any or all of these into compendium type all-inclusive lists, but those are the generally accepted parts of a good story. One can mix and match, but that's about it. Take "Moby Dick" as the example (I was wrong - there are actually five - I forgot about the 1978 version). Each movie examined a different aspect of the story as a rule, but all the elements of all the movies were exactly the same. When examined it is completely fair to define "JAWS" as "Moby Dick" only with Bruce the Shark instead of a whale. Not many differences between the two movies really in terms of themes, characters, etc. To me, another "Moby Dick" would just be a waste of money - Gregory Peck was the definitive Ahab with Orson Wells coming in a close second, Jon Luc Picard coming in third. :) Right off the top of my head, there are three or four urban fantasy series in book form that would make much better movies or TV shows. |
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On 10/1/09 8:31 AM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:54:53 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:17:23 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: Jesus - no wonder Hollywood can't make any money. Don't they have any original ideas? Nope, there are six, maybe seven, plots used in movies. Any creativity used, is in making them look fresh. For the most part, it doesn't work. Um...well, that's one way of looking at it. There are seven basic themes, six basic elements and seven basic plots. Themes: The Quest, Voyage and Return, Rebirth, Comedy, Tragedy, Overcoming, Rags to Riches Elements: Character, Action (or Plot), Ideas, Language, Music, Spectacle (according to Aristotle). Plots: versus: nature, man, the environment, machines/technology, supernatural, self, god(s)/religion There are some who want to stretch each, any or all of these into compendium type all-inclusive lists, but those are the generally accepted parts of a good story. One can mix and match, but that's about it. Take "Moby Dick" as the example (I was wrong - there are actually five - I forgot about the 1978 version). Each movie examined a different aspect of the story as a rule, but all the elements of all the movies were exactly the same. When examined it is completely fair to define "JAWS" as "Moby Dick" only with Bruce the Shark instead of a whale. Not many differences between the two movies really in terms of themes, characters, etc. To me, another "Moby Dick" would just be a waste of money - Gregory Peck was the definitive Ahab with Orson Wells coming in a close second, Jon Luc Picard coming in third. :) Right off the top of my head, there are three or four urban fantasy series in book form that would make much better movies or TV shows. Well, no one is going to call you Ishmael. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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