On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:11:20 -0600, "SteveB"
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:05:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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On Sep 30, 8:40 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:25:34 -0400, JohnH
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:26:00 -0600, "SteveB"
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Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a
human
assailant.

If a person does not possess the confidence to face an opponent empty
handed, that person needs training. There are many ways to kill or
disable
an opponent bare handed. Those who must rely on a weapon just
demonstrate
their own inadequacy, although, it DOES make it a hell of a lot
easier. And
you don't have to get your hands dirty or your hair messed up.

Steve

Karate is great, unless the other guy has a .44 magnum pointed at your
head.

Black pepper. I had a self defense guru tell me one time that for
close in mugging, nothing beats a palm full of black pepper in the
face.

When you think about it, makes perfect sense.

I also like the small personal Tasers. Those look like a fairly
decent issue to use - non-lethal and you can deal out some punishment
without getting too close. :)

Tom, that's fine if you have the pepper.

And Tom, if the .44 gave you that much grief, If I were you, I'd
seriously consider leaving the Desert Eagle alone.

seriously.

I did qualify that with a "maybe". :)

Somebody that I know who knows somebody that knows somebody who knows
somebody else (wink wink - nudge nudge) has an AK that, um..."works"
if you get my drift. He had it up at the Turkey Shoot the other day -
man, it still shoots sweet as can be.

That's one fine weapon.

For a piece of **** manufactured gun you can drag through the mud and then
fire two magazines of ammo, yes, it is one fine weapon. Looks like the damn
things will last until you fire the bore smooth, and then just keep firing.
About as simple as a Model A Ford.

A few years ago, there was a survey about the top ten weapons that
changed modern warfare. For some reason, the RPG and AK-47 were placed
10th and 3rd respectively. I would argue that you could make the case
for either the RPG or AK-47 as number one - tied even.

I disagree with you on one point - even in local manufacturer mode
where the firing mechanism, chamber and barrels are supplied and the
stocks are made out of local materials they are a quality weapon for a
guerilla unit or assault force. They maintain reasonable accuracy even
when abused. I do agree with you on it's ability to hold up under
abuse - you can fire the damned things until the barrel is smooth as
glass and it still shoots reasonably straight over short distances.
It's a combination of relaxed machining standards and the metal alloys
they use to build the business ends. It's not so much how they are
made as how they are used and in that sense, it's an outstanding
weapon.

The one who is owned by somebody who knows somebody that knows
somebody who knows somebody else (wink wink - nudge nudge) is Russian
in origin built in '66 and part of Russian military aid to the NVA. A
war souvenir and shipped back to the states in pieces.

Of course I can't "directly" verify any of that - wink wink - nudge
nudge. :)