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On Sep 29, 4:36*pm, FishWisher wrote:
Living smack-dab in the embattled Central Valley of California, where
our legislatures cause more than enough trouble as they endlessly
legislate Utopia, we now have the feds strangling our valley water
supply. I love fishing the delta, the main body of water at the center
of this war, and I want a healthy fishery, but thousands of acres of
farmland now lay fallow as the feds have cut off the water supply to
save the 2" delta smelt - and the salmon run. Even I would choose
people over fish - but that isn't the real issue, I don't think.

I say the problem is not NorCal farmers, but SoCal water guzzlers. Let
the SoCal millions pay $400 per month for water as they build
desalinization plants along the coast to supply themselves with the
water they need. In return, we'll continue to grow food for them. As
it is, y'all will be finding more and more of your produce labled
"Product of Chile" (or name most any country).

Oh yeah, we should begin importing much of our food, shouldn't we? Why
not? We just love importing oil that we also refuse to drill and
refine ourselves.

God bless America.

Dalewww.FishWisher.com


From my understanding, desalinization plants take a progidous amount
of energy to run. I don't remember California have much of that to
spare.
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On Sep 29, 4:36 pm, FishWisher wrote:
Living smack-dab in the embattled Central Valley of California, where
our legislatures cause more than enough trouble as they endlessly
legislate Utopia, we now have the feds strangling our valley water
supply. I love fishing the delta, the main body of water at the center
of this war, and I want a healthy fishery, but thousands of acres of
farmland now lay fallow as the feds have cut off the water supply to
save the 2" delta smelt - and the salmon run. Even I would choose
people over fish - but that isn't the real issue, I don't think.

I say the problem is not NorCal farmers, but SoCal water guzzlers. Let
the SoCal millions pay $400 per month for water as they build
desalinization plants along the coast to supply themselves with the
water they need. In return, we'll continue to grow food for them. As
it is, y'all will be finding more and more of your produce labled
"Product of Chile" (or name most any country).

Oh yeah, we should begin importing much of our food, shouldn't we? Why
not? We just love importing oil that we also refuse to drill and
refine ourselves.

God bless America.

Dalewww.FishWisher.com


From my understanding, desalinization plants take a progidous amount
of energy to run. I don't remember California have much of that to
spare.

_____________________

80% of California water goes to AG. They pay from $6.42 to 9.50 an acre
foot. They can resell the water. One of the biggest growers of subsidized
cotton just sold 1500 acre feet to the town of Mojave for some estimate
$5500 an acre foot. We would have plenty of water to grow food if we were
not using it to grow alfalfa and cotton and rice in the desert. Resnick a
billionaire Beverly Hills mogul is one of the biggest almond and pistaschio
suppliers in California with Paramont Farms.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/08/...rial-colonial/
A little about the Resnicks.

And about the $5500
http://onthepublicrecord.wordpress.c...better-before/


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On Sep 29, 4:36*pm, FishWisher wrote:
Living smack-dab in the embattled Central Valley of California, where
our legislatures cause more than enough trouble as they endlessly
legislate Utopia, we now have the feds strangling our valley water
supply. I love fishing the delta, the main body of water at the center
of this war, and I want a healthy fishery, but thousands of acres of
farmland now lay fallow as the feds have cut off the water supply to
save the 2" delta smelt - and the salmon run. Even I would choose
people over fish - but that isn't the real issue, I don't think.

I say the problem is not NorCal farmers, but SoCal water guzzlers. Let
the SoCal millions pay $400 per month for water as they build
desalinization plants along the coast to supply themselves with the
water they need. In return, we'll continue to grow food for them. As
it is, y'all will be finding more and more of your produce labled
"Product of Chile" (or name most any country).

Oh yeah, we should begin importing much of our food, shouldn't we? Why
not? We just love importing oil that we also refuse to drill and
refine ourselves.

God bless America.

Dalewww.FishWisher.com


It cant be as bad a Coca-Cola in India. There, Coke struck a deal with
the Indian Govt. to have all the water they need. Now, the poor get
physically beaten away from Water sources.
Now, if we could only beat away Faggots like SCOTT INGERSOLL...we'd
be better off.
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On Sep 30, 2:18*pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:36:13 -0700 (PDT), FishWisher

wrote:
Living smack-dab in the embattled Central Valley of California, where
our legislatures cause more than enough trouble as they endlessly
legislate Utopia, we now have the feds strangling our valley water
supply.


The Feds CREATED your water supply in 1933 out of a semi-arid desert.
Be happy with what the environment will support and don't feel
entitled to the impossible. You make this sound trivial, but it is
not. Recreational and commercial fishing in your state is based around
salmon. The delta smelt is the salmon's main source of food. Kill that
and you kill the state's fishing and fish-tourism revenues.

The problem isn't regulations, it is the lack thereof. You have too
many people vying for a very limited amount of resources. GROWTH is
what needs to be regulated.

We have the same thing going on in the East... in Georgia. Upstream
they build and build and build and build, then want to keep all of the
water flowing out of Georgia into Alabama and Florida for themselves,
instead of addressing their own lack of control on growth.
--


Not just in GA... North Carolina is doing the same thing to SC on the
Catawba River. They want to pull water out of the river that should
be flowing on down into SC. Charlotte wants to sphon off the water to
support it's own growth.

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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:18:18 -0400, Gene
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:36:13 -0700 (PDT), FishWisher
wrote:

Living smack-dab in the embattled Central Valley of California, where
our legislatures cause more than enough trouble as they endlessly
legislate Utopia, we now have the feds strangling our valley water
supply.


The Feds CREATED your water supply in 1933 out of a semi-arid desert.
Be happy with what the environment will support and don't feel
entitled to the impossible. You make this sound trivial, but it is
not. Recreational and commercial fishing in your state is based around
salmon. The delta smelt is the salmon's main source of food. Kill that
and you kill the state's fishing and fish-tourism revenues.

The problem isn't regulations, it is the lack thereof. You have too
many people vying for a very limited amount of resources. GROWTH is
what needs to be regulated.

We have the same thing going on in the East... in Georgia. Upstream
they build and build and build and build, then want to keep all of the
water flowing out of Georgia into Alabama and Florida for themselves,
instead of addressing their own lack of control on growth.


Maybe we really *should* do something about the millions of illegal
aliens. They probably impact the water supply also.
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John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.


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