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"Jim" wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:33:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
i'm finding that the conservatives here have a woeful lack of
knowledge about current events...
Firstly, I disagree with you labeling them "conservative." They
don't really appear to be that. I think radical right (radical for
this country anyway) would be more appropriate. I'm a fiscal
conservative for sure. I'm a liberal when it comes to social issues.

Secondly, I'm shocked by the seeming lack of knowledge about current
events also. I think that's not really the case. I think it's more
of ignoring facts when they're inconvenient.

I'm happy to reevaluate the performance of Obama and/or the Dem.
"leadership" in Congress as necessary. The latter are truly dropping
the ball right now, and I strongly believe that Obama got involved
too late in the process. I don't see those on the radical right
honestly evaluating those politicians (and other, e.g., Beck, Rush,
Wilson, Palin, Cheney) on the right who are leadership roles (in
name or in fact).
It's good to see you have found your 'niche' here, right between
Harry
and w3fh, with Donnie as a chaser.

If you find things too shocking, there really are a lot of political
groups where your expertise would be immensely appreciated.
She is a fiscal conservative, in her words, meaning she wants to make
and keep her own money. On social issues, she doesn't mind throwing
YOUR money around. It's so easy to be a liberal socialist, don't you
think?

I'm pretty sure that I've donated a lot more of my hard-earned money to
charity that you. I'm certain that I've donated more of my precious
time. I'm also betting that you don't do much of either. Feel free to
tell me otherwise, of course.

Based on the information you have provided I can easily say you are
wrong. Move over Donny we have another dip**** on board.


Really? What information? Please be specific. I'd like to know how you
know how much I make, paid in taxes, or donated, plus the number of hours
of time I've committed over the last, say 10 years. Or, feel free to
highlight your charity.


Thank you. You seemed pretty sure at the time. (40/love)


I don't understand your response.

--
Nom=de=Plume

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:22:46 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
. ..
JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:33:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
i'm finding that the conservatives here have a woeful lack of
knowledge about current events...

Firstly, I disagree with you labeling them "conservative." They don't
really appear to be that. I think radical right (radical for this
country anyway) would be more appropriate. I'm a fiscal conservative
for
sure. I'm a liberal when it comes to social issues.

Secondly, I'm shocked by the seeming lack of knowledge about current
events also. I think that's not really the case. I think it's more of
ignoring facts when they're inconvenient.

I'm happy to reevaluate the performance of Obama and/or the Dem.
"leadership" in Congress as necessary. The latter are truly dropping
the
ball right now, and I strongly believe that Obama got involved too
late
in the process. I don't see those on the radical right honestly
evaluating those politicians (and other, e.g., Beck, Rush, Wilson,
Palin, Cheney) on the right who are leadership roles (in name or in
fact).

It's good to see you have found your 'niche' here, right between Harry
and w3fh, with Donnie as a chaser.

If you find things too shocking, there really are a lot of political
groups where your expertise would be immensely appreciated.

She is a fiscal conservative, in her words, meaning she wants to make
and
keep her own money. On social issues, she doesn't mind throwing YOUR
money
around. It's so easy to be a liberal socialist, don't you think?


I'm pretty sure that I've donated a lot more of my hard-earned money to
charity that you. I'm certain that I've donated more of my precious time.
I'm also betting that you don't do much of either. Feel free to tell me
otherwise, of course.

I've no doubt you've done everything of any consequence better than
the rest of us.

That puts you up on a special pedestal with only one other.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.


You should talk to Jim about putting words in other people's mouth.

--
Nom=de=Plume

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"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:33:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
i'm finding that the conservatives here have a woeful lack of
knowledge about current events...
Firstly, I disagree with you labeling them "conservative." They
don't really
appear to be that. I think radical right (radical for this country
anyway)
would be more appropriate. I'm a fiscal conservative for sure. I'm a
liberal
when it comes to social issues.

Secondly, I'm shocked by the seeming lack of knowledge about current
events
also. I think that's not really the case. I think it's more of
ignoring
facts when they're inconvenient.

I'm happy to reevaluate the performance of Obama and/or the Dem.
"leadership" in Congress as necessary. The latter are truly dropping
the
ball right now, and I strongly believe that Obama got involved too
late in
the process. I don't see those on the radical right honestly
evaluating
those politicians (and other, e.g., Beck, Rush, Wilson, Palin,
Cheney) on
the right who are leadership roles (in name or in fact).
It's good to see you have found your 'niche' here, right between
Harry
and w3fh, with Donnie as a chaser.

If you find things too shocking, there really are a lot of political
groups where your expertise would be immensely appreciated.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.

Feel free to leave if you don't like my quality or quantity of posts.
I'm sure you'll do well somewhere.

I rather think it's you who is going to melt down and have to be swept
out the door. I might be wrong. We'll see.


Like I've said, you're here with me. I'm not here with you.


Donny has a twin sister.

I consider that a nice compliment. Thank you very much!

I already have a brother and a sister, but I'll take it under advisement.
lol

--
Nom=de=Plume

Conservative or Liberal?
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:33:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
i'm finding that the conservatives here have a woeful lack of
knowledge about current events...
Firstly, I disagree with you labeling them "conservative." They
don't really appear to be that. I think radical right (radical for
this country anyway) would be more appropriate. I'm a fiscal
conservative for sure. I'm a liberal when it comes to social issues.

Secondly, I'm shocked by the seeming lack of knowledge about current
events also. I think that's not really the case. I think it's more
of ignoring facts when they're inconvenient.

I'm happy to reevaluate the performance of Obama and/or the Dem.
"leadership" in Congress as necessary. The latter are truly dropping
the ball right now, and I strongly believe that Obama got involved
too late in the process. I don't see those on the radical right
honestly evaluating those politicians (and other, e.g., Beck, Rush,
Wilson, Palin, Cheney) on the right who are leadership roles (in
name or in fact).
It's good to see you have found your 'niche' here, right between
Harry
and w3fh, with Donnie as a chaser.

If you find things too shocking, there really are a lot of political
groups where your expertise would be immensely appreciated.
She is a fiscal conservative, in her words, meaning she wants to make
and keep her own money. On social issues, she doesn't mind throwing
YOUR money around. It's so easy to be a liberal socialist, don't you
think?
I'm pretty sure that I've donated a lot more of my hard-earned money to
charity that you. I'm certain that I've donated more of my precious
time. I'm also betting that you don't do much of either. Feel free to
tell me otherwise, of course.

Based on the information you have provided I can easily say you are
wrong. Move over Donny we have another dip**** on board.

Really? What information? Please be specific. I'd like to know how you
know how much I make, paid in taxes, or donated, plus the number of hours
of time I've committed over the last, say 10 years. Or, feel free to
highlight your charity.


Thank you. You seemed pretty sure at the time. (40/love)


I don't understand your response.

Don't worry about it.

Conservative or Liberal?
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
H the K wrote:
On 9/30/09 1:22 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:33:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
i'm finding that the conservatives here have a woeful lack of
knowledge about current events...
Firstly, I disagree with you labeling them "conservative." They
don't
really appear to be that. I think radical right (radical for this
country anyway) would be more appropriate. I'm a fiscal
conservative for
sure. I'm a liberal when it comes to social issues.

Secondly, I'm shocked by the seeming lack of knowledge about
current
events also. I think that's not really the case. I think it's more
of
ignoring facts when they're inconvenient.

I'm happy to reevaluate the performance of Obama and/or the Dem.
"leadership" in Congress as necessary. The latter are truly
dropping the
ball right now, and I strongly believe that Obama got involved too
late
in the process. I don't see those on the radical right honestly
evaluating those politicians (and other, e.g., Beck, Rush, Wilson,
Palin, Cheney) on the right who are leadership roles (in name or in
fact).
It's good to see you have found your 'niche' here, right between
Harry
and w3fh, with Donnie as a chaser.

If you find things too shocking, there really are a lot of political
groups where your expertise would be immensely appreciated.
She is a fiscal conservative, in her words, meaning she wants to make
and
keep her own money. On social issues, she doesn't mind throwing YOUR
money
around. It's so easy to be a liberal socialist, don't you think?
I'm pretty sure that I've donated a lot more of my hard-earned money
to
charity that you. I'm certain that I've donated more of my precious
time.
I'm also betting that you don't do much of either. Feel free to tell
me
otherwise, of course.

Ouch!


When it comes to charity, Harry will tell you that he is proud that his
father in law is a philanthropist. I guess that makes Harry generous by
association.

So, you don't do much of it? Is that your final answer?


Putting words in mouth again, Tootsie. That's a bad habit of yours.


Still waiting for you to answer the question Dustin.

He's one of my favorite actors. Thanks for the compliment.

Conservative or Liberal?
 

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:50:04 -0400, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:33:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
i'm finding that the conservatives here have a woeful lack of
knowledge about current events...
Firstly, I disagree with you labeling them "conservative." They
don't really appear to be that. I think radical right (radical for
this country anyway) would be more appropriate. I'm a fiscal
conservative for sure. I'm a liberal when it comes to social issues.

Secondly, I'm shocked by the seeming lack of knowledge about current
events also. I think that's not really the case. I think it's more
of ignoring facts when they're inconvenient.

I'm happy to reevaluate the performance of Obama and/or the Dem.
"leadership" in Congress as necessary. The latter are truly dropping
the ball right now, and I strongly believe that Obama got involved
too late in the process. I don't see those on the radical right
honestly evaluating those politicians (and other, e.g., Beck, Rush,
Wilson, Palin, Cheney) on the right who are leadership roles (in
name or in fact).
It's good to see you have found your 'niche' here, right between
Harry
and w3fh, with Donnie as a chaser.

If you find things too shocking, there really are a lot of political
groups where your expertise would be immensely appreciated.
She is a fiscal conservative, in her words, meaning she wants to make
and keep her own money. On social issues, she doesn't mind throwing
YOUR money around. It's so easy to be a liberal socialist, don't you
think?
I'm pretty sure that I've donated a lot more of my hard-earned money to
charity that you. I'm certain that I've donated more of my precious
time. I'm also betting that you don't do much of either. Feel free to
tell me otherwise, of course.

Based on the information you have provided I can easily say you are
wrong. Move over Donny we have another dip**** on board.

Really? What information? Please be specific. I'd like to know how you
know how much I make, paid in taxes, or donated, plus the number of hours
of time I've committed over the last, say 10 years. Or, feel free to
highlight your charity.


Thank you. You seemed pretty sure at the time. (40/love)


I don't understand your response.

Don't worry about it.

I think you've got the Energizer Bunny on the leash.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Conservative or Liberal?
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:33:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
i'm finding that the conservatives here have a woeful lack of
knowledge about current events...
Firstly, I disagree with you labeling them "conservative." They
don't really
appear to be that. I think radical right (radical for this country
anyway)
would be more appropriate. I'm a fiscal conservative for sure. I'm
a liberal
when it comes to social issues.

Secondly, I'm shocked by the seeming lack of knowledge about
current events
also. I think that's not really the case. I think it's more of
ignoring
facts when they're inconvenient.

I'm happy to reevaluate the performance of Obama and/or the Dem.
"leadership" in Congress as necessary. The latter are truly
dropping the
ball right now, and I strongly believe that Obama got involved too
late in
the process. I don't see those on the radical right honestly
evaluating
those politicians (and other, e.g., Beck, Rush, Wilson, Palin,
Cheney) on
the right who are leadership roles (in name or in fact).
It's good to see you have found your 'niche' here, right between
Harry
and w3fh, with Donnie as a chaser.

If you find things too shocking, there really are a lot of political
groups where your expertise would be immensely appreciated.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.

Feel free to leave if you don't like my quality or quantity of posts.
I'm sure you'll do well somewhere.

I rather think it's you who is going to melt down and have to be swept
out the door. I might be wrong. We'll see.


Like I've said, you're here with me. I'm not here with you.


Donny has a twin sister.

I consider that a nice compliment. Thank you very much!

I already have a brother and a sister, but I'll take it under advisement.
lol

--
Nom=de=Plume

Yeah... you may consider his comments as an insult to you. ;-)

Conservative or Liberal?
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:13:09 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:31:48 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:

This makes so much sense to you because you have a binary brain.

I thank god you're not still a peace officer.

Just remember....
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Out of a random generator perhaps, they binary isn't interpretable by
anything.

Conservative or Liberal?
 

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:50:57 -0600, "Canuck57"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:13:09 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:31:48 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:

This makes so much sense to you because you have a binary brain.

I thank god you're not still a peace officer.

Just remember....
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Out of a random generator perhaps, they binary isn't interpretable by
anything.


OK. I'll admit that you're way over my head.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Conservative or Liberal?
 

H the K wrote:
On 9/30/09 1:21 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:33:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...

i'm finding that the conservatives here have a woeful lack of
knowledge about current events...


Firstly, I disagree with you labeling them "conservative." They don't
really
appear to be that. I think radical right (radical for this country
anyway)
would be more appropriate. I'm a fiscal conservative for sure. I'm a
liberal
when it comes to social issues.

Secondly, I'm shocked by the seeming lack of knowledge about current
events
also. I think that's not really the case. I think it's more of ignoring
facts when they're inconvenient.

I'm happy to reevaluate the performance of Obama and/or the Dem.
"leadership" in Congress as necessary. The latter are truly dropping
the
ball right now, and I strongly believe that Obama got involved too
late in
the process. I don't see those on the radical right honestly evaluating
those politicians (and other, e.g., Beck, Rush, Wilson, Palin,
Cheney) on
the right who are leadership roles (in name or in fact).

It's good to see you have found your 'niche' here, right between Harry
and w3fh, with Donnie as a chaser.

If you find things too shocking, there really are a lot of political
groups where your expertise would be immensely appreciated.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.


Feel free to leave if you don't like my quality or quantity of posts. I'm
sure you'll do well somewhere.



I tried to get him to re-enlist in the army so he could be shipped off
to Iraq and with his body keep a potentially useful young American from
being shot.



How did that work out for you, narcissist?

Conservative or Liberal?
 

The D wrote:
H the K wrote:
On 9/30/09 1:21 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:33:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...

i'm finding that the conservatives here have a woeful lack of
knowledge about current events...


Firstly, I disagree with you labeling them "conservative." They don't
really
appear to be that. I think radical right (radical for this country
anyway)
would be more appropriate. I'm a fiscal conservative for sure. I'm a
liberal
when it comes to social issues.

Secondly, I'm shocked by the seeming lack of knowledge about current
events
also. I think that's not really the case. I think it's more of
ignoring
facts when they're inconvenient.

I'm happy to reevaluate the performance of Obama and/or the Dem.
"leadership" in Congress as necessary. The latter are truly
dropping the
ball right now, and I strongly believe that Obama got involved too
late in
the process. I don't see those on the radical right honestly
evaluating
those politicians (and other, e.g., Beck, Rush, Wilson, Palin,
Cheney) on
the right who are leadership roles (in name or in fact).

It's good to see you have found your 'niche' here, right between Harry
and w3fh, with Donnie as a chaser.

If you find things too shocking, there really are a lot of political
groups where your expertise would be immensely appreciated.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.


Feel free to leave if you don't like my quality or quantity of posts.
I'm
sure you'll do well somewhere.



I tried to get him to re-enlist in the army so he could be shipped off
to Iraq and with his body keep a potentially useful young American
from being shot.



How did that work out for you, narcissist?

I can't believe that Krause the well known draft dodging coward could
even jokingly suggest that a man who gave up 20+ years of his life to
serve his country, go back and give some more. Krause you are a pathetic
worthless P.O.S.

Conservative or Liberal?
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
It's good to see you have found your 'niche' here, right between Harry
and w3fh, with Donnie as a chaser.

If you find things too shocking, there really are a lot of political
groups where your expertise would be immensely appreciated.
--
John H


~~ Snerk ~~
In other words...she wised up to you very quickly.



Actually, I'm pretty slow to take offense or get angry. I don't usually yell
at someone or call them nasty names or try to demean them because of their
sex.


Yeah, you are such a victim.

Conservative or Liberal?
 

"Halloooooo" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
It's good to see you have found your 'niche' here, right between Harry
and w3fh, with Donnie as a chaser.

If you find things too shocking, there really are a lot of political
groups where your expertise would be immensely appreciated.
--
John H


~~ Snerk ~~
In other words...she wised up to you very quickly.



Actually, I'm pretty slow to take offense or get angry. I don't usually
yell at someone or call them nasty names or try to demean them because of
their sex.


Yeah, you are such a victim.


Yeah, you have trouble reading.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Conservative or Liberal?
 

"If a conservative is a homosexual, they quietly enjoy their life. If
a liberal is a homosexual, they loudly demand legislated respect."

Uh, NO, not quite. If a conservative is homosexual, he won't
necessarily IDENTIFY as such, he may get married and father children
to help advance his own political career, and he'll spout hypocritical
anti-Gay positions ... but still enjoy engaging in furtive, anonymous
sexual encounters with other men, usually at motels, roadside rest
areas, and airport bathrooms.

Whereas if a liberal is homosexual, he will more like live his life
openly, honestly, and with political integrity, and advocate equal
treatment for all law-abiding, taxpaying citizens regardless of sexual
orientation.

As for what you call "legislated respect," you and I both know there
really is no such thing. No amount of legislation could coerce you
into respecting anyone. Do you know anyone who is Gay? Do you know any
longterm Gay couples? And if so, is it possible for you to respect the
commitment they have made to each other?

Perhaps not. Perhaps no Gay person would get your respect. But the
fact remains that there is simply no Constitutional justification for
denying law-abiding Gay individuals and couples the very same legal
benefits and responsibilities that Straight individuals and couples
have always taken for granted.

Let's go back to your original statement, and simply change
"homosexual" to "black." Perhaps you would say, "If a liberal is
black, he will loudly demand his civil rights. If a conservative is
black, he will be content to sit in the back of the bus."

Conservative or Liberal?
 

"PolishBear" wrote in message
...
"If a conservative is a homosexual, they quietly enjoy their life. If
a liberal is a homosexual, they loudly demand legislated respect."

Uh, NO, not quite. If a conservative is homosexual, he won't
necessarily IDENTIFY as such, he may get married and father children
to help advance his own political career, and he'll spout hypocritical
anti-Gay positions ... but still enjoy engaging in furtive, anonymous
sexual encounters with other men, usually at motels, roadside rest
areas, and airport bathrooms.

Whereas if a liberal is homosexual, he will more like live his life
openly, honestly, and with political integrity, and advocate equal
treatment for all law-abiding, taxpaying citizens regardless of sexual
orientation.

As for what you call "legislated respect," you and I both know there
really is no such thing. No amount of legislation could coerce you
into respecting anyone. Do you know anyone who is Gay? Do you know any
longterm Gay couples? And if so, is it possible for you to respect the
commitment they have made to each other?

Perhaps not. Perhaps no Gay person would get your respect. But the
fact remains that there is simply no Constitutional justification for
denying law-abiding Gay individuals and couples the very same legal
benefits and responsibilities that Straight individuals and couples
have always taken for granted.

Let's go back to your original statement, and simply change
"homosexual" to "black." Perhaps you would say, "If a liberal is
black, he will loudly demand his civil rights. If a conservative is
black, he will be content to sit in the back of the bus."

My, aren't we a tad touchy over a bit of tongue-in-cheek banter? "Methinks
thou dothe protest too much..."

Conservative or Liberal?
 

On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:44:41 -0700 (PDT), PolishBear
wrote:

"If a conservative is a homosexual, they quietly enjoy their life. If
a liberal is a homosexual, they loudly demand legislated respect."

Uh, NO, not quite. If a conservative is homosexual, he won't
necessarily IDENTIFY as such, he may get married and father children
to help advance his own political career, and he'll spout hypocritical
anti-Gay positions ... but still enjoy engaging in furtive, anonymous
sexual encounters with other men, usually at motels, roadside rest
areas, and airport bathrooms.

Whereas if a liberal is homosexual, he will more like live his life
openly, honestly, and with political integrity, and advocate equal
treatment for all law-abiding, taxpaying citizens regardless of sexual
orientation.

As for what you call "legislated respect," you and I both know there
really is no such thing. No amount of legislation could coerce you
into respecting anyone. Do you know anyone who is Gay? Do you know any
longterm Gay couples? And if so, is it possible for you to respect the
commitment they have made to each other?

Perhaps not. Perhaps no Gay person would get your respect. But the
fact remains that there is simply no Constitutional justification for
denying law-abiding Gay individuals and couples the very same legal
benefits and responsibilities that Straight individuals and couples
have always taken for granted.

Let's go back to your original statement, and simply change
"homosexual" to "black." Perhaps you would say, "If a liberal is
black, he will loudly demand his civil rights. If a conservative is
black, he will be content to sit in the back of the bus."

Homosexual couples should have all the rights as heterosexual couples.
Just don't call it marriage. Why do you capitalize 'gay'. Is it now a
proper noun? Is it more a proper noun than heterosexual?
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking.