BoatBanter.com

BoatBanter.com (https://www.boatbanter.com/)
-   General (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/)
-   -   Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/110427-re-income-gapwidens-immigrants-drive-down-wages-destroymiddle-class.html)

martin September 29th 09 04:34 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Sep 29, 7:00*am, Iconoclast wrote:
With too many "guest workers" and illegal aliens driving down wages,
the gap between rich and non-rich is mirroring Latin America and
India. Only CEO's and high up execs benefit from bringing *cheap
replacement workers to do the jobs Americans do at slave wages.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina...us.Income.Gap/

WASHINGTON — The recession has hit middle-income and poor families
hardest, widening the economic gap between the richest and poorest
Americans as rippling job layoffs ravaged household budgets.

The wealthiest 10 percent of Americans — those making more than
$138,000 each year — earned 11.4 times the roughly $12,000 made by
those living near or below the poverty line in 2008, according to
newly released census figures. That ratio was an increase from 11.2 in
2007 and the previous high of 11.22 in 2003.

Household income declined across all groups, but at sharper percentage
levels for middle-income and poor Americans. Median income fell last
year from $52,163 to $50,303, wiping out a decade's worth of gains to
hit the lowest level since 1997.

Poverty jumped sharply to 13.2 percent, an 11-year high.

"No one should be surprised at the increased disparity," said Richard
Freeman, an economist at Harvard University. "Unemployment hurts
normal workers who do not have the golden parachutes the folks at the
top have."

Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets. They said
while the richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay,
those at the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and
struggling to get by.

Large cities such as Atlanta, Washington, New York, San Francisco,
Miami and Chicago had the most inequality, due largely to years of
middle-class flight to the suburbs. Declining industrial cities with
pockets of well-off neighborhoods, such as Pittsburgh, Cleveland and
Buffalo, N.Y., also had sharp disparities.

Up-and-coming cities with growing middle-class populations, such as
Mesa, Ariz., Riverside, Calif., Arlington, Texas, and Henderson, Nev.,
were among the areas showing the least income differences between rich
and poor.

It's unclear whether income inequality will continue to worsen in
major cities, said William H. Frey, a demographer at the Brookings
Institution. Many Americans are staying put for now in traditional
cities to look for jobs and because of frozen lines of credit.

"During the years of the housing bubble, there was middle-class
movement from unaffordable metros with high-income inequality," Frey
said. "Now that the bubble burst, more of the population may be headed
back to the high-inequality areas, stemming their middle-class
losses."

Among other findings:

_Income at the top 5 percent of households — those making $180,000 or
more — was 3.58 times the median income, the highest since 2006.

_Twenty-one states and the District of Columbia had higher poverty
rates than the national average, many of them in the South, such as
Mississippi (21.2 percent), Kentucky, Arkansas and Louisiana (each
with 17.3 percent). That's compared with 19 states and the District of
Columbia that ranked above U.S. poverty in 2007.

_Use of food stamps jumped 13 percent last year to nearly 9.8 million
U.S. households, led by Louisiana, Maine and Kentucky. The increase
was most evident in households with two or more workers, highlighting
the impact of the recession on both working families and unemployed
single people.

_Pharr, Texas, and Flint, Mich., each had more than a third of its
residents on food stamps, at 38.5 percent and 35.4 percent,
respectively.

_Between 2007 and 2008, income at the 50th percentile (median) and the
10th percentile fell by 3.6 percent and 3.7 percent, respectively,
compared with a 2.1 percent decline at the 90th percentile. Between
1999 and 2008, income at the 50th and 10th percentiles decreased 4.3
percent and 9 percent, respectively, while income at the 90th
percentile was statistically unchanged.

_Plano, Texas, a Dallas suburb, had the highest median income among
larger cities, earning $85,003. Cleveland ranked at the bottom, at
$26,731.

The findings come as the federal government considers new regulations
to rein in executive pay at companies in which it has invested.
President Barack Obama also typically cites the need for higher taxes
on the wealthy to pay for health care overhaul and other measures,
arguing that the wealthy have disproportionately benefited from tax
cuts during the Bush administration.

The 2008 figures come from the Current Population Survey and the
American Community Survey, which gathers information from 3 million
households. The government first began tracking household income in
1967.

___

Associated Press writer Frank Bass contributed to this report.


To allow the continued presence of illegal aliens is a crime against
American citizens.

tt

lextb


wf3h September 29th 09 06:00 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Sep 29, 11:34*am, martin wrote:
On Sep 29, 7:00*am, Iconoclast wrote:





With too many "guest workers" and illegal aliens driving down wages,
the gap between rich and non-rich is mirroring Latin America and
India. Only CEO's and high up execs benefit from bringing *cheap
replacement workers to do the jobs Americans do at slave wages.


http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina...us.Income.Gap/


WASHINGTON — The recession has hit middle-income and poor families
hardest, widening the economic gap between the richest and poorest
Americans as rippling job layoffs ravaged household budgets.


The wealthiest 10 percent of Americans — those making more than
$138,000 each year — earned 11.4 times the roughly $12,000 made by
those living near or below the poverty line in 2008, according to
newly released census figures. That ratio was an increase from 11.2 in
2007 and the previous high of 11.22 in 2003.


Household income declined across all groups, but at sharper percentage
levels for middle-income and poor Americans. Median income fell last
year from $52,163 to $50,303, wiping out a decade's worth of gains to
hit the lowest level since 1997.


Poverty jumped sharply to 13.2 percent, an 11-year high.


"No one should be surprised at the increased disparity," said Richard
Freeman, an economist at Harvard University. "Unemployment hurts
normal workers who do not have the golden parachutes the folks at the
top have."


Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets. They said
while the richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay,
those at the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and
struggling to get by.


Large cities such as Atlanta, Washington, New York, San Francisco,
Miami and Chicago had the most inequality, due largely to years of
middle-class flight to the suburbs. Declining industrial cities with
pockets of well-off neighborhoods, such as Pittsburgh, Cleveland and
Buffalo, N.Y., also had sharp disparities.


Up-and-coming cities with growing middle-class populations, such as
Mesa, Ariz., Riverside, Calif., Arlington, Texas, and Henderson, Nev.,
were among the areas showing the least income differences between rich
and poor.


It's unclear whether income inequality will continue to worsen in
major cities, said William H. Frey, a demographer at the Brookings
Institution. Many Americans are staying put for now in traditional
cities to look for jobs and because of frozen lines of credit.


"During the years of the housing bubble, there was middle-class
movement from unaffordable metros with high-income inequality," Frey
said. "Now that the bubble burst, more of the population may be headed
back to the high-inequality areas, stemming their middle-class
losses."


Among other findings:


_Income at the top 5 percent of households — those making $180,000 or
more — was 3.58 times the median income, the highest since 2006.


_Twenty-one states and the District of Columbia had higher poverty
rates than the national average, many of them in the South, such as
Mississippi (21.2 percent), Kentucky, Arkansas and Louisiana (each
with 17.3 percent). That's compared with 19 states and the District of
Columbia that ranked above U.S. poverty in 2007.


_Use of food stamps jumped 13 percent last year to nearly 9.8 million
U.S. households, led by Louisiana, Maine and Kentucky. The increase
was most evident in households with two or more workers, highlighting
the impact of the recession on both working families and unemployed
single people.


_Pharr, Texas, and Flint, Mich., each had more than a third of its
residents on food stamps, at 38.5 percent and 35.4 percent,
respectively.


_Between 2007 and 2008, income at the 50th percentile (median) and the
10th percentile fell by 3.6 percent and 3.7 percent, respectively,
compared with a 2.1 percent decline at the 90th percentile. Between
1999 and 2008, income at the 50th and 10th percentiles decreased 4.3
percent and 9 percent, respectively, while income at the 90th
percentile was statistically unchanged.


_Plano, Texas, a Dallas suburb, had the highest median income among
larger cities, earning $85,003. Cleveland ranked at the bottom, at
$26,731.


The findings come as the federal government considers new regulations
to rein in executive pay at companies in which it has invested.
President Barack Obama also typically cites the need for higher taxes
on the wealthy to pay for health care overhaul and other measures,
arguing that the wealthy have disproportionately benefited from tax
cuts during the Bush administration.


The 2008 figures come from the Current Population Survey and the
American Community Survey, which gathers information from 3 million
households. The government first began tracking household income in
1967.


___


Associated Press writer Frank Bass contributed to this report.


To allow the continued presence of illegal aliens is a crime against
American citizens.


to allow wall street to continue its ways is a crime against american
citizens

'when times were good i fed myself and my neighbor.

when times were difficult i fed myself

when times were very bad, i ate my neigbor'

the credo of conservativism...

Lefty September 29th 09 09:13 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Sep 29, 11:34*am, martin wrote:
On Sep 29, 7:00*am, Iconoclast wrote:



With too many "guest workers" and illegal aliens driving down wages,
the gap between rich and non-rich is mirroring Latin America and
India. Only CEO's and high up execs benefit from bringing *cheap
replacement workers to do the jobs Americans do at slave wages.


http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina...us.Income.Gap/


WASHINGTON — The recession has hit middle-income and poor families
hardest, widening the economic gap between the richest and poorest
Americans as rippling job layoffs ravaged household budgets.


The wealthiest 10 percent of Americans — those making more than
$138,000 each year — earned 11.4 times the roughly $12,000 made by
those living near or below the poverty line in 2008, according to
newly released census figures. That ratio was an increase from 11.2 in
2007 and the previous high of 11.22 in 2003.


Household income declined across all groups, but at sharper percentage
levels for middle-income and poor Americans. Median income fell last
year from $52,163 to $50,303, wiping out a decade's worth of gains to
hit the lowest level since 1997.


Poverty jumped sharply to 13.2 percent, an 11-year high.


"No one should be surprised at the increased disparity," said Richard
Freeman, an economist at Harvard University. "Unemployment hurts
normal workers who do not have the golden parachutes the folks at the
top have."


Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets. They said
while the richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay,
those at the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and
struggling to get by.


Large cities such as Atlanta, Washington, New York, San Francisco,
Miami and Chicago had the most inequality, due largely to years of
middle-class flight to the suburbs. Declining industrial cities with
pockets of well-off neighborhoods, such as Pittsburgh, Cleveland and
Buffalo, N.Y., also had sharp disparities.


Up-and-coming cities with growing middle-class populations, such as
Mesa, Ariz., Riverside, Calif., Arlington, Texas, and Henderson, Nev.,
were among the areas showing the least income differences between rich
and poor.


It's unclear whether income inequality will continue to worsen in
major cities, said William H. Frey, a demographer at the Brookings
Institution. Many Americans are staying put for now in traditional
cities to look for jobs and because of frozen lines of credit.


"During the years of the housing bubble, there was middle-class
movement from unaffordable metros with high-income inequality," Frey
said. "Now that the bubble burst, more of the population may be headed
back to the high-inequality areas, stemming their middle-class
losses."


Among other findings:


_Income at the top 5 percent of households — those making $180,000 or
more — was 3.58 times the median income, the highest since 2006.


_Twenty-one states and the District of Columbia had higher poverty
rates than the national average, many of them in the South, such as
Mississippi (21.2 percent), Kentucky, Arkansas and Louisiana (each
with 17.3 percent). That's compared with 19 states and the District of
Columbia that ranked above U.S. poverty in 2007.


_Use of food stamps jumped 13 percent last year to nearly 9.8 million
U.S. households, led by Louisiana, Maine and Kentucky. The increase
was most evident in households with two or more workers, highlighting
the impact of the recession on both working families and unemployed
single people.


_Pharr, Texas, and Flint, Mich., each had more than a third of its
residents on food stamps, at 38.5 percent and 35.4 percent,
respectively.


_Between 2007 and 2008, income at the 50th percentile (median) and the
10th percentile fell by 3.6 percent and 3.7 percent, respectively,
compared with a 2.1 percent decline at the 90th percentile. Between
1999 and 2008, income at the 50th and 10th percentiles decreased 4.3
percent and 9 percent, respectively, while income at the 90th
percentile was statistically unchanged.


_Plano, Texas, a Dallas suburb, had the highest median income among
larger cities, earning $85,003. Cleveland ranked at the bottom, at
$26,731.


The findings come as the federal government considers new regulations
to rein in executive pay at companies in which it has invested.
President Barack Obama also typically cites the need for higher taxes
on the wealthy to pay for health care overhaul and other measures,
arguing that the wealthy have disproportionately benefited from tax
cuts during the Bush administration.


The 2008 figures come from the Current Population Survey and the
American Community Survey, which gathers information from 3 million
households. The government first began tracking household income in
1967.


___


Associated Press writer Frank Bass contributed to this report.


To allow the continued presence of illegal aliens is a crime against
American citizens.

tt

lextb


I've got news for you. The income gap has been widening for some time
and it's not the fault of immigrants.

Info;

"The disparities may be even greater for another reason. The Internal
Revenue Service estimates that it is able to accurately tax 99 percent
of wage income but that it captures only about 70 percent of business
and investment income, most of which flows to upper-income
individuals, because not everybody accurately reports such figures.

The Bush administration argued that its tax policies, despite cuts
that benefited those at the top more than others, had not added to the
widening gap but “made the tax code more progressive, not less.”
Brookly McLaughlin, the chief Treasury Department spokeswoman, said
that this year “the share of income taxes paid by lower-income
taxpayers will be lower than it would have been without the tax
relief, while the share of income taxes for higher-income taxpayers
will be higher.”

Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr., she noted, has acknowledged
that income disparities have increased, but, along with a “solid
consensus” of experts, attributed that shift largely to “the rapid
pace of technological change has been a major driver in the decades-
long widening of the income gap in the United States."

Others argued that public policies had played a role in the shift.
Robert Greenstein, executive director of the Center on Budget and
Policy Priorities, an advocacy group for the poor, said that the data
understates the widening disparity between the top 1 percent and the
rest of the country.

He said that in addition to rising incomes and reduced taxes, the
equation should take into account cuts in fringe benefits to workers
and in government services that middle-class and poor Americans rely
on more than the affluent. These include health care, child care and
education spending."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/29/business/29tax.html

"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33066877...s_and_economy/




wf3h September 30th 09 12:51 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Sep 29, 4:13*pm, Lefty wrote:

I've got news for you. The income gap has been widening for some time
and it's not the fault of immigrants.

Info;

"The disparities may be even greater for another reason. The Internal
Revenue Service estimates that it is able to accurately tax 99 percent
of wage income but that it captures only about 70 percent of business
and investment income, most of which flows to upper-income
individuals, because not everybody accurately reports such figures.


exactly...EXACTLY...all the sock puppet bobble heads here whimpering
about how the rich are SO offended and SO overtaxed simply don't know
anything about taxes at all. the middle class pays 'em and the rich
avoid 'em


"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio

Canuck57[_8_] September 30th 09 04:35 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Sep 29, 7:00 am, Iconoclast wrote:
With too many "guest workers" and illegal aliens driving down wages,
the gap between rich and non-rich is mirroring Latin America and
India. Only CEO's and high up execs benefit from bringing cheap
replacement workers to do the jobs Americans do at slave wages.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina...us.Income.Gap/

WASHINGTON - The recession has hit middle-income and poor families
hardest, widening the economic gap between the richest and poorest
Americans as rippling job layoffs ravaged household budgets.

The wealthiest 10 percent of Americans - those making more than
$138,000 each year - earned 11.4 times the roughly $12,000 made by
those living near or below the poverty line in 2008, according to
newly released census figures. That ratio was an increase from 11.2 in
2007 and the previous high of 11.22 in 2003.

Household income declined across all groups, but at sharper percentage
levels for middle-income and poor Americans. Median income fell last
year from $52,163 to $50,303, wiping out a decade's worth of gains to
hit the lowest level since 1997.

Poverty jumped sharply to 13.2 percent, an 11-year high.

"No one should be surprised at the increased disparity," said Richard
Freeman, an economist at Harvard University. "Unemployment hurts
normal workers who do not have the golden parachutes the folks at the
top have."

Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets. They said
while the richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay,
those at the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and
struggling to get by.

Large cities such as Atlanta, Washington, New York, San Francisco,
Miami and Chicago had the most inequality, due largely to years of
middle-class flight to the suburbs. Declining industrial cities with
pockets of well-off neighborhoods, such as Pittsburgh, Cleveland and
Buffalo, N.Y., also had sharp disparities.

Up-and-coming cities with growing middle-class populations, such as
Mesa, Ariz., Riverside, Calif., Arlington, Texas, and Henderson, Nev.,
were among the areas showing the least income differences between rich
and poor.

It's unclear whether income inequality will continue to worsen in
major cities, said William H. Frey, a demographer at the Brookings
Institution. Many Americans are staying put for now in traditional
cities to look for jobs and because of frozen lines of credit.

"During the years of the housing bubble, there was middle-class
movement from unaffordable metros with high-income inequality," Frey
said. "Now that the bubble burst, more of the population may be headed
back to the high-inequality areas, stemming their middle-class
losses."

Among other findings:

_Income at the top 5 percent of households - those making $180,000 or
more - was 3.58 times the median income, the highest since 2006.

_Twenty-one states and the District of Columbia had higher poverty
rates than the national average, many of them in the South, such as
Mississippi (21.2 percent), Kentucky, Arkansas and Louisiana (each
with 17.3 percent). That's compared with 19 states and the District of
Columbia that ranked above U.S. poverty in 2007.

_Use of food stamps jumped 13 percent last year to nearly 9.8 million
U.S. households, led by Louisiana, Maine and Kentucky. The increase
was most evident in households with two or more workers, highlighting
the impact of the recession on both working families and unemployed
single people.

_Pharr, Texas, and Flint, Mich., each had more than a third of its
residents on food stamps, at 38.5 percent and 35.4 percent,
respectively.

_Between 2007 and 2008, income at the 50th percentile (median) and the
10th percentile fell by 3.6 percent and 3.7 percent, respectively,
compared with a 2.1 percent decline at the 90th percentile. Between
1999 and 2008, income at the 50th and 10th percentiles decreased 4.3
percent and 9 percent, respectively, while income at the 90th
percentile was statistically unchanged.

_Plano, Texas, a Dallas suburb, had the highest median income among
larger cities, earning $85,003. Cleveland ranked at the bottom, at
$26,731.

The findings come as the federal government considers new regulations
to rein in executive pay at companies in which it has invested.
President Barack Obama also typically cites the need for higher taxes
on the wealthy to pay for health care overhaul and other measures,
arguing that the wealthy have disproportionately benefited from tax
cuts during the Bush administration.

The 2008 figures come from the Current Population Survey and the
American Community Survey, which gathers information from 3 million
households. The government first began tracking household income in
1967.

___

Associated Press writer Frank Bass contributed to this report.


To allow the continued presence of illegal aliens is a crime against
American citizens.

---------
I say deport them all, at least 20 generations back.




Nicko October 3rd 09 01:45 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Sep 29, 6:51*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 29, 4:13*pm, Lefty wrote:



I've got news for you. The income gap has been widening for some time
and it's not the fault of immigrants.


Info;


"The disparities may be even greater for another reason. The Internal
Revenue Service estimates that it is able to accurately tax 99 percent
of wage income but that it captures only about 70 percent of business
and investment income, most of which flows to upper-income
individuals, because not everybody accurately reports such figures.


exactly...EXACTLY...all the sock puppet bobble heads here whimpering
about how the rich are SO offended and SO overtaxed simply don't know
anything about taxes at all. the middle class pays 'em and the rich
avoid 'em



"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The only reason rush limbaugh has for being on the radio is that he
has talent on loan from god.

God is a moron.

--
YOP...


Curly Surmudgeon October 3rd 09 05:17 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:45:39 -0700, Nicko wrote:

what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The only reason rush limbaugh has for being on the radio is that he has
talent on loan from god.


Well, that's pretty conclusive proof there is no ghod...

--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Beats the Rose Parade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVjBdnyiy-M
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Gunner Asch October 3rd 09 09:59 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:45:39 -0700 (PDT), Nicko
wrote:

On Sep 29, 6:51*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 29, 4:13*pm, Lefty wrote:



I've got news for you. The income gap has been widening for some time
and it's not the fault of immigrants.


Info;


"The disparities may be even greater for another reason. The Internal
Revenue Service estimates that it is able to accurately tax 99 percent
of wage income but that it captures only about 70 percent of business
and investment income, most of which flows to upper-income
individuals, because not everybody accurately reports such figures.


exactly...EXACTLY...all the sock puppet bobble heads here whimpering
about how the rich are SO offended and SO overtaxed simply don't know
anything about taxes at all. the middle class pays 'em and the rich
avoid 'em



"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The only reason rush limbaugh has for being on the radio is that he
has talent on loan from god.

God is a moron.



Snicker..you know you will pay for that remark, dont you?

Laugh laugh laugh


Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Gunner Asch October 3rd 09 09:59 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:35:02 -0600, "Canuck57" wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
...
On Sep 29, 7:00 am, Iconoclast wrote:
With too many "guest workers" and illegal aliens driving down wages,
the gap between rich and non-rich is mirroring Latin America and
India. Only CEO's and high up execs benefit from bringing cheap
replacement workers to do the jobs Americans do at slave wages.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina...us.Income.Gap/

WASHINGTON - The recession has hit middle-income and poor families
hardest, widening the economic gap between the richest and poorest
Americans as rippling job layoffs ravaged household budgets.

The wealthiest 10 percent of Americans - those making more than
$138,000 each year - earned 11.4 times the roughly $12,000 made by
those living near or below the poverty line in 2008, according to
newly released census figures. That ratio was an increase from 11.2 in
2007 and the previous high of 11.22 in 2003.

Household income declined across all groups, but at sharper percentage
levels for middle-income and poor Americans. Median income fell last
year from $52,163 to $50,303, wiping out a decade's worth of gains to
hit the lowest level since 1997.

Poverty jumped sharply to 13.2 percent, an 11-year high.

"No one should be surprised at the increased disparity," said Richard
Freeman, an economist at Harvard University. "Unemployment hurts
normal workers who do not have the golden parachutes the folks at the
top have."

Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets. They said
while the richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay,
those at the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and
struggling to get by.

Large cities such as Atlanta, Washington, New York, San Francisco,
Miami and Chicago had the most inequality, due largely to years of
middle-class flight to the suburbs. Declining industrial cities with
pockets of well-off neighborhoods, such as Pittsburgh, Cleveland and
Buffalo, N.Y., also had sharp disparities.

Up-and-coming cities with growing middle-class populations, such as
Mesa, Ariz., Riverside, Calif., Arlington, Texas, and Henderson, Nev.,
were among the areas showing the least income differences between rich
and poor.

It's unclear whether income inequality will continue to worsen in
major cities, said William H. Frey, a demographer at the Brookings
Institution. Many Americans are staying put for now in traditional
cities to look for jobs and because of frozen lines of credit.

"During the years of the housing bubble, there was middle-class
movement from unaffordable metros with high-income inequality," Frey
said. "Now that the bubble burst, more of the population may be headed
back to the high-inequality areas, stemming their middle-class
losses."

Among other findings:

_Income at the top 5 percent of households - those making $180,000 or
more - was 3.58 times the median income, the highest since 2006.

_Twenty-one states and the District of Columbia had higher poverty
rates than the national average, many of them in the South, such as
Mississippi (21.2 percent), Kentucky, Arkansas and Louisiana (each
with 17.3 percent). That's compared with 19 states and the District of
Columbia that ranked above U.S. poverty in 2007.

_Use of food stamps jumped 13 percent last year to nearly 9.8 million
U.S. households, led by Louisiana, Maine and Kentucky. The increase
was most evident in households with two or more workers, highlighting
the impact of the recession on both working families and unemployed
single people.

_Pharr, Texas, and Flint, Mich., each had more than a third of its
residents on food stamps, at 38.5 percent and 35.4 percent,
respectively.

_Between 2007 and 2008, income at the 50th percentile (median) and the
10th percentile fell by 3.6 percent and 3.7 percent, respectively,
compared with a 2.1 percent decline at the 90th percentile. Between
1999 and 2008, income at the 50th and 10th percentiles decreased 4.3
percent and 9 percent, respectively, while income at the 90th
percentile was statistically unchanged.

_Plano, Texas, a Dallas suburb, had the highest median income among
larger cities, earning $85,003. Cleveland ranked at the bottom, at
$26,731.

The findings come as the federal government considers new regulations
to rein in executive pay at companies in which it has invested.
President Barack Obama also typically cites the need for higher taxes
on the wealthy to pay for health care overhaul and other measures,
arguing that the wealthy have disproportionately benefited from tax
cuts during the Bush administration.

The 2008 figures come from the Current Population Survey and the
American Community Survey, which gathers information from 3 million
households. The government first began tracking household income in
1967.

___

Associated Press writer Frank Bass contributed to this report.


To allow the continued presence of illegal aliens is a crime against
American citizens.

---------
I say deport them all, at least 20 generations back.


Then they wouldnt be illegal aliens.





Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Lefty October 4th 09 08:30 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Sep 29, 7:51*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 29, 4:13*pm, Lefty wrote:



I've got news for you. The income gap has been widening for some time
and it's not the fault of immigrants.


Info;


"The disparities may be even greater for another reason. The Internal
Revenue Service estimates that it is able to accurately tax 99 percent
of wage income but that it captures only about 70 percent of business
and investment income, most of which flows to upper-income
individuals, because not everybody accurately reports such figures.


exactly...EXACTLY...all the sock puppet bobble heads here whimpering
about how the rich are SO offended and SO overtaxed simply don't know
anything about taxes at all. the middle class pays 'em and the rich
avoid 'em


One of lowest forms of life is the tax whiner aka teabagger. They're
just selfish, irresponsible assholes.

"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The rich are parasites sucking off the fruits of other people's poorly
paid labor.

Lefty October 4th 09 08:39 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 3, 4:59*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:45:39 -0700 (PDT), Nicko
wrote:



On Sep 29, 6:51*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 29, 4:13*pm, Lefty wrote:


I've got news for you. The income gap has been widening for some time
and it's not the fault of immigrants.


Info;


"The disparities may be even greater for another reason. The Internal
Revenue Service estimates that it is able to accurately tax 99 percent
of wage income but that it captures only about 70 percent of business
and investment income, most of which flows to upper-income
individuals, because not everybody accurately reports such figures.


exactly...EXACTLY...all the sock puppet bobble heads here whimpering
about how the rich are SO offended and SO overtaxed simply don't know
anything about taxes at all. the middle class pays 'em and the rich
avoid 'em


"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The only reason rush limbaugh has for being on the radio is that he
has talent on loan from god.


God is a moron.


Snicker..you know you will pay for that remark, dont you?

Laugh laugh laugh

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.


So you claim to oppose political correctness, yet when somebody posts
something which might offend theists, you make asinine threats in a
lame attempt to stop people from speaking out about what they believe.
That is the essence of politically correct bullying.
Hypocrisy, thy name is Gunner Asch.

Gunner Asch October 5th 09 12:32 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:30:13 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:

One of lowest forms of life is the tax whiner aka teabagger. They're
just selfish, irresponsible assholes.

"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The rich are parasites sucking off the fruits of other people's poorly
paid labo


Da! Comrade...verichie tobac verlose!

You are a Good communist.

When you are dead, you will be a Great! communist.

Less than 3 yrs and you will become a Great Communist.



Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Gunner Asch October 5th 09 12:35 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:39:37 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:

On Oct 3, 4:59*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:45:39 -0700 (PDT), Nicko
wrote:



On Sep 29, 6:51*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 29, 4:13*pm, Lefty wrote:


I've got news for you. The income gap has been widening for some time
and it's not the fault of immigrants.


Info;


"The disparities may be even greater for another reason. The Internal
Revenue Service estimates that it is able to accurately tax 99 percent
of wage income but that it captures only about 70 percent of business
and investment income, most of which flows to upper-income
individuals, because not everybody accurately reports such figures.


exactly...EXACTLY...all the sock puppet bobble heads here whimpering
about how the rich are SO offended and SO overtaxed simply don't know
anything about taxes at all. the middle class pays 'em and the rich
avoid 'em


"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The only reason rush limbaugh has for being on the radio is that he
has talent on loan from god.


God is a moron.


Snicker..you know you will pay for that remark, dont you?

Laugh laugh laugh

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.


So you claim to oppose political correctness, yet when somebody posts
something which might offend theists, you make asinine threats in a
lame attempt to stop people from speaking out about what they believe.
That is the essence of politically correct bullying.
Hypocrisy, thy name is Gunner Asch.


Take it up with whatever supreme being is at the top of the heap.

Laugh laugh laugh..you think IM going to make you pay for that remark?

I could care less if you die in your sleep, or in screaming agony at the
crater of the IED that blew your legs off.

Gunner

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Lefty October 5th 09 11:11 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 4, 7:32*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:30:13 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:



One of lowest forms of life is the tax whiner aka teabagger. They're
just selfish, irresponsible assholes.


"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The rich are parasites sucking off the fruits of other people's poorly
paid labo


Da! Comrade...verichie tobac verlose!

You are a Good communist.

When you are dead, you will be a Great! communist.

Less than 3 yrs and you will become a Great Communist.


Is that a death threat, kook? You need to be heavily medicated.

No argument against my position, I see. That's to be expected.


Lefty October 5th 09 11:16 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 4, 7:35*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:39:37 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:



On Oct 3, 4:59*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:45:39 -0700 (PDT), Nicko
wrote:


On Sep 29, 6:51*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 29, 4:13*pm, Lefty wrote:


I've got news for you. The income gap has been widening for some time
and it's not the fault of immigrants.


Info;


"The disparities may be even greater for another reason. The Internal
Revenue Service estimates that it is able to accurately tax 99 percent
of wage income but that it captures only about 70 percent of business
and investment income, most of which flows to upper-income
individuals, because not everybody accurately reports such figures.


exactly...EXACTLY...all the sock puppet bobble heads here whimpering
about how the rich are SO offended and SO overtaxed simply don't know
anything about taxes at all. the middle class pays 'em and the rich
avoid 'em


"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The only reason rush limbaugh has for being on the radio is that he
has talent on loan from god.


God is a moron.


Snicker..you know you will pay for that remark, dont you?


Laugh laugh laugh


Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.


So you claim to oppose political correctness, yet when somebody posts
something which might offend theists, you make asinine threats in a
lame attempt to stop people from speaking out about what they believe.
That is the essence of politically correct bullying.
Hypocrisy, thy name is Gunner Asch.


Take it up with whatever supreme being is at the top of the heap.


That would be my dog. She says you're a hypocritical sack of ****.

Laugh laugh laugh..you think IM going to make you pay for that remark?


Nope. Nobody is. You just like making empty, implied threats. Cowards
usually do.

I could care less if you die in your sleep, or in screaming agony at the
crater of the IED that blew your legs off.


Typical theist- a rotten sinner to the core. If there is a deity, it
laughs in derision at you along with everybody else.



Gunner Asch October 6th 09 01:08 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:11:04 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:

On Oct 4, 7:32*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:30:13 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:



One of lowest forms of life is the tax whiner aka teabagger. They're
just selfish, irresponsible assholes.


"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The rich are parasites sucking off the fruits of other people's poorly
paid labo


Da! Comrade...verichie tobac verlose!

You are a Good communist.

When you are dead, you will be a Great! communist.

Less than 3 yrs and you will become a Great Communist.


Is that a death threat, kook? You need to be heavily medicated.


So practical observations are now "death threats" in the Leftwing
extremist fringe kook world? Fascinating indeed.

No argument against my position, I see. That's to be expected.


Why should I argue If you wish to remain inverted with your head up your
ass, go for it.

Gunner


Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Gunner Asch October 6th 09 01:11 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:16:25 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:

On Oct 4, 7:35*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:39:37 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:



On Oct 3, 4:59*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:45:39 -0700 (PDT), Nicko
wrote:


On Sep 29, 6:51*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 29, 4:13*pm, Lefty wrote:


I've got news for you. The income gap has been widening for some time
and it's not the fault of immigrants.


Info;


"The disparities may be even greater for another reason. The Internal
Revenue Service estimates that it is able to accurately tax 99 percent
of wage income but that it captures only about 70 percent of business
and investment income, most of which flows to upper-income
individuals, because not everybody accurately reports such figures.


exactly...EXACTLY...all the sock puppet bobble heads here whimpering
about how the rich are SO offended and SO overtaxed simply don't know
anything about taxes at all. the middle class pays 'em and the rich
avoid 'em


"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The only reason rush limbaugh has for being on the radio is that he
has talent on loan from god.


God is a moron.


Snicker..you know you will pay for that remark, dont you?


Laugh laugh laugh


Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.


So you claim to oppose political correctness, yet when somebody posts
something which might offend theists, you make asinine threats in a
lame attempt to stop people from speaking out about what they believe.
That is the essence of politically correct bullying.
Hypocrisy, thy name is Gunner Asch.


Take it up with whatever supreme being is at the top of the heap.


That would be my dog. She says you're a hypocritical sack of ****.


She also licks her ass. So much for her opinion eh?

Laugh laugh laugh..you think IM going to make you pay for that remark?


Nope. Nobody is. You just like making empty, implied threats. Cowards
usually do.


An observation is a threat? Fascinating how you Far Leftwing Extremist
Fringe Kooks try to change the language of the land eh?

I could care less if you die in your sleep, or in screaming agony at the
crater of the IED that blew your legs off.


Typical theist- a rotten sinner to the core. If there is a deity, it
laughs in derision at you along with everybody else.

Im Buddhist. Shrug...we dont have "sinners"

But then..its been quite obvious from your postings, that you are as
stupid as a bag of dog ****.

Gunner Asch



Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Lefty October 9th 09 06:49 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 5, 8:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:11:04 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:



On Oct 4, 7:32*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:30:13 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:


One of lowest forms of life is the tax whiner aka teabagger. They're
just selfish, irresponsible assholes.


"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The rich are parasites sucking off the fruits of other people's poorly
paid labo


Da! Comrade...verichie tobac verlose!


You are a Good communist.


When you are dead, you will be a Great! communist.


Less than 3 yrs and you will become a Great Communist.


Is that a death threat, kook? You need to be heavily medicated.


So practical observations are now "death threats" in the Leftwing
extremist fringe kook world? *Fascinating indeed.


No, I'm asking you what you meant. You tell me I'm going to die in
less than 3 years. Sounds like a lame, kooky threat to me.
How is that a "practical observation"? Do you claim to be psychic,
nutbar?


No argument against my position, I see. That's to be expected.


Why should I argue If you wish to remain inverted with your head up your
ass, go for it.


Standard excuse for a weenie.


Lefty October 9th 09 06:58 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 5, 8:11*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:16:25 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:



On Oct 4, 7:35*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:39:37 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:


On Oct 3, 4:59*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:45:39 -0700 (PDT), Nicko
wrote:


On Sep 29, 6:51*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 29, 4:13*pm, Lefty wrote:


I've got news for you. The income gap has been widening for some time
and it's not the fault of immigrants.


Info;


"The disparities may be even greater for another reason. The Internal
Revenue Service estimates that it is able to accurately tax 99 percent
of wage income but that it captures only about 70 percent of business
and investment income, most of which flows to upper-income
individuals, because not everybody accurately reports such figures.


exactly...EXACTLY...all the sock puppet bobble heads here whimpering
about how the rich are SO offended and SO overtaxed simply don't know
anything about taxes at all. the middle class pays 'em and the rich
avoid 'em


"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The only reason rush limbaugh has for being on the radio is that he
has talent on loan from god.


God is a moron.


Snicker..you know you will pay for that remark, dont you?


Laugh laugh laugh


Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.


So you claim to oppose political correctness, yet when somebody posts
something which might offend theists, you make asinine threats in a
lame attempt to stop people from speaking out about what they believe..
That is the essence of politically correct bullying.
Hypocrisy, thy name is Gunner Asch.


Take it up with whatever supreme being is at the top of the heap.


That would be my dog. She says you're a hypocritical sack of ****.


She also licks her ass. So much for her opinion eh?


If humans weren't upright walking, two legged creatures, we'd still be
doing the same.

Laugh laugh laugh..you think IM going to make you pay for that remark?


Nope. Nobody is. You just like making empty, implied threats. Cowards
usually do.


An observation is a threat? *Fascinating how you Far Leftwing Extremist
Fringe Kooks try to change the language of the land eh?


Repeat; how is the date of my death an "observation"?

I could care less if you die in your sleep, or in screaming agony at the
crater of the IED that blew your legs off.


Typical theist- a rotten sinner to the core. If there is a deity, it
laughs in derision at you along with everybody else.


Im Buddhist. Shrug...we dont have "sinners"


Yet you believe God punishes them. You don't even know what Buddhism
is, freak. Buddhists don't believe in an all-powerful deity. Buddhism
is a philosophy of living, not a God-fearing religion.

But then..its been quite obvious from your postings, that you are as
stupid as a bag of dog ****.


Says the ignorant turd who thinks Buddhism is theistic. Get an
education, asshuffer.



Lefty October 9th 09 07:01 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 6, 3:03*am, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:16:25 -0700, Lefty wrote:
Take it up with whatever supreme being is at the top of the heap.


That would be my dog. She says you're a hypocritical sack of ****.


Uhm, if you like dogs don't bring yours into the conversation. *Gummer
proudly posted about hanging his to death on a choker chain...


Ironic, since he's claiming to be a Buddhist. Buddhists believe in
respect for all forms of life and total non-violence.
Bat**** crazy doesn't even begin to describe this guy.



Gunner Asch October 9th 09 08:48 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:49:40 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:

On Oct 5, 8:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:11:04 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:



On Oct 4, 7:32*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:30:13 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:


One of lowest forms of life is the tax whiner aka teabagger. They're
just selfish, irresponsible assholes.


"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The rich are parasites sucking off the fruits of other people's poorly
paid labo


Da! Comrade...verichie tobac verlose!


You are a Good communist.


When you are dead, you will be a Great! communist.


Less than 3 yrs and you will become a Great Communist.


Is that a death threat, kook? You need to be heavily medicated.


So practical observations are now "death threats" in the Leftwing
extremist fringe kook world? *Fascinating indeed.


No, I'm asking you what you meant. You tell me I'm going to die in
less than 3 years. Sounds like a lame, kooky threat to me.
How is that a "practical observation"? Do you claim to be psychic,
nutbar?


Yes..it was a practical observation labled a death threat. Interesting
how you tried to swerve away from your initial knee jerk reaction.

As it happens..I have a strong feeling that in less then 3 yrs..the
People are going to finally realize that the Leftwing extremists in the
US are destroying it. They will rise up and simply kill each and every
leftwing extremist that they are aware of. I fully believe that at
least 175,000 Lefties will die in a matter of a month or two. Once the
first killings start...it will be become open season on the rest.
College professors, local government officials, that rat ******* that
gave a guy a fine for not painting his house the approved
color....shrug....a very long list.

There will be no leaders, few groups, no "planned" attacks. But Joe
Sixpack finally having enough and getting out his deer rifle, handgun,
etc etc and taking out which ever Leftard he has chosen.

And the military will sit back and wait for the gun fire, hangings etc
etc to end. So will most of the police.

The American Revolutionary War was fought by 10% of the People. 10% of
the People who own firearms..150,000,000+...is 15 Million armed
individuals, each one growing more and more ****ed off as each day..each
liberty is removed. Shrug....and all it will take is 5-10 of them to
take out some high profile targets..and the duck shoot begins.

Some will be shot from long distances, some will be shot up close, some
will be hung, some will be stabbed, some will be blown to bits, others
will be subjected to hideious tortures until they die in screaming
agony.

Keep in mind that those 15 million people are made up of current and ex
military, current and ex law enforcement, hard working individuals and
small groups who have finally, had enough.

The fact of the matter is..I fully believe that each and every leftist
has a long list of people that fully believe that the world would be a
far far better place if that particular Leftist was dead. And when the
time comes...they will be made dead.

Shrug..I hope Im wrong...but..I dont believe that I am.
Im sure that there are people in your life that believe you should be
dead, outside of Usenet.. With luck, they will kill you when the Great
Cull comes. Now you can flee the US, stay on the run, or stay and die.

Pretty much up to you. But the tide is building. This Great Depression
Part Deux will be an ugly nasty one..and it will last for at least
another 3 yrs. And the Leftists have caused a great portion of it in
their attempts to Socialize America. And will indeed...pay for it.

Blither all you want..you will likely be hunted down and killed by
someone who knows you. And its totally unlikely you will be able to
prevent it.

Shrug...its a mean future you are looking at. Shrug.

And Im going to be sitting on my front porch, feet propped up, playing
the banjo in glee while listening to the body counts on the radio.

And you..will be part of the piles of dead leftists bulldozed into mass
graves.

Shrug again.

Whatever your position is..means nothing. You will be dead and no longer
of any consideration as America rebuilds itself.

Gunner

GUNNER'S PRAYER:
"God grant me the serenity to accept the people
that don't need to get shot, the courage to shoot
the people that need shooting and the wisdom to know the difference.
And if need be, the skill to get it done before I have to reload."


0

Gunner Asch October 9th 09 08:50 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:58:49 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:


An observation is a threat? *Fascinating how you Far Leftwing Extremist
Fringe Kooks try to change the language of the land eh?


Repeat; how is the date of my death an "observation"?

I could care less if you die in your sleep, or in screaming agony at the
crater of the IED that blew your legs off.


Typical theist- a rotten sinner to the core. If there is a deity, it
laughs in derision at you along with everybody else.


Im Buddhist. Shrug...we dont have "sinners"


Yet you believe God punishes them. You don't even know what Buddhism
is, freak. Buddhists don't believe in an all-powerful deity. Buddhism
is a philosophy of living, not a God-fearing religion.

But then..its been quite obvious from your postings, that you are as
stupid as a bag of dog ****.


Says the ignorant turd who thinks Buddhism is theistic. Get an
education, asshuffer.



Says someone who knows nothing of Buddhism. I strongly suggest you make
plans to move to Canada or some other nation in the not too distant
future.

Shrug..its your life..decide wisely.

Gunner

GUNNER'S PRAYER:
"God grant me the serenity to accept the people
that don't need to get shot, the courage to shoot
the people that need shooting and the wisdom to know the difference.
And if need be, the skill to get it done before I have to reload."


0

Gunner Asch October 9th 09 08:51 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:01:56 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:


Uhm, if you like dogs don't bring yours into the conversation. *Gummer
proudly posted about hanging his to death on a choker chain...


Ironic, since he's claiming to be a Buddhist. Buddhists believe in
respect for all forms of life and total non-violence.
Bat**** crazy doesn't even begin to describe this guy.

So Buddhists never kill? I see you know nothing of the East.

Let alone the Rensi Buddhists.

But then..you continue to prove your stupidity to one and all.

I hope your death is slow.

Gunner

GUNNER'S PRAYER:
"God grant me the serenity to accept the people
that don't need to get shot, the courage to shoot
the people that need shooting and the wisdom to know the difference.
And if need be, the skill to get it done before I have to reload."


0

Howard Brazee October 9th 09 01:54 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:58:49 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:

Im Buddhist. Shrug...we dont have "sinners"


Yet you believe God punishes them. You don't even know what Buddhism
is, freak. Buddhists don't believe in an all-powerful deity. Buddhism
is a philosophy of living, not a God-fearing religion.


The Buddha famously said he didn't know about gods. If a Buddhist
wants to be a theist, his religion doesn't stop him. That said, I
don't know that I've met one.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Howard Brazee October 9th 09 01:56 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:51:46 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Ironic, since he's claiming to be a Buddhist. Buddhists believe in
respect for all forms of life and total non-violence.
Bat**** crazy doesn't even begin to describe this guy.

So Buddhists never kill? I see you know nothing of the East.


There are lots of people in all religions who live differently than
the precepts of their religions.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Gunner Asch October 9th 09 05:32 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:56:41 -0600, Howard Brazee
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:51:46 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Ironic, since he's claiming to be a Buddhist. Buddhists believe in
respect for all forms of life and total non-violence.
Bat**** crazy doesn't even begin to describe this guy.

So Buddhists never kill? I see you know nothing of the East.


There are lots of people in all religions who live differently than
the precepts of their religions.



Thank you for your honesty.

Gunner

GUNNER'S PRAYER:
"God grant me the serenity to accept the people
that don't need to get shot, the courage to shoot
the people that need shooting and the wisdom to know the difference.
And if need be, the skill to get it done before I have to reload."


0

Don Kirkman October 9th 09 06:23 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Gunner Asch wrote in article
:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:01:56 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:


Ironic, since he's claiming to be a Buddhist. Buddhists believe in
respect for all forms of life and total non-violence.
Bat**** crazy doesn't even begin to describe this guy.


So Buddhists never kill? I see you know nothing of the East.


True; in medieval Japan there was all-out war between two Kyoto
temples over which was maintaining the orthodox teachings. Both
traditions still exist, with each one still maintaining temples.
Ironically, it was the fighting began with the priests, and the
doctrines they were fighting over were among the most liberal in the
Buddhist tradition, but power and wealth were also involved. The
fighting spilled over into feudal domains and lasted most of a
century.
--
Don Kirkman


Lefty October 11th 09 04:09 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 9, 3:48*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:49:40 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:



On Oct 5, 8:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:11:04 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:


On Oct 4, 7:32*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:30:13 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:


One of lowest forms of life is the tax whiner aka teabagger. They're
just selfish, irresponsible assholes.


"Analysts attributed the widening gap to the wave of layoffs in the
economic downturn that have devastated household budgets since the
recession officially began in December, 2007. They said while the
richest Americans may be seeing reductions in executive pay, those at
the bottom of the income ladder are often unemployed and struggling to
get by."


what??? you mean the rich AREN"T taking care of the middle class like
our sock puppets say they are?? that'll completely destroy rush
limbaugh's reason for being on the radio


The rich are parasites sucking off the fruits of other people's poorly
paid labo


Da! Comrade...verichie tobac verlose!


You are a Good communist.


When you are dead, you will be a Great! communist.


Less than 3 yrs and you will become a Great Communist.


Is that a death threat, kook? You need to be heavily medicated.


So practical observations are now "death threats" in the Leftwing
extremist fringe kook world? *Fascinating indeed.


No, I'm asking you what you meant. You tell me I'm going to die in
less than 3 years. Sounds like a lame, kooky threat to me.
How is that a "practical observation"? Do you claim to be psychic,
nutbar?


Yes..it was a practical observation labled a death threat. Interesting
how you tried to swerve away from your initial knee jerk reaction.


Interesting how you lie and project.
How did I try to swerve away? I asked you a direct question about it
and you evaded it. That was ~you~ swerving away.

As it happens..I have a strong feeling that in less then 3 yrs..the
People are going to finally realize that the Leftwing extremists in the
US are destroying it. They will rise up and simply kill each and every
leftwing extremist that they are aware of. *I fully believe that at
least 175,000 Lefties will die in a matter of a month or two. *Once the
first killings start...it will be become open season on the rest.
College professors, local government officials, that rat ******* that
gave a guy a fine for not painting his house the approved
color....shrug....a very long list.


Since I'm not even in the US, you're not only a nutball, but a
presumptuous one.

This is nothing but a laughably empty threat against people you
disagree with, disguised as a "prediction". This is a tactic
terrorists often use,

There will be no leaders, few groups, no "planned" attacks. But Joe
Sixpack finally having enough and getting out his deer rifle, handgun,
etc etc *and taking out which ever Leftard he has chosen.


Implied threat again. ~You~ are Joe Sixpack- an uneducated, hateful,
fascist moron.

And the military will sit back and wait for the gun fire, hangings etc
etc to end. *So will most of the police.


Keep telling yourself that.*

The American Revolutionary War was fought by 10% of the People. *10% of
the People who own firearms..150,000,000+...is 15 Million armed
individuals, each one growing more and more ****ed off as each day..each
liberty is removed. *Shrug....and all it will take is 5-10 of them to
take out some high profile targets..and the duck shoot begins.


Naturally, you don't know your history. The AR was fought by organized
state and local militias.

Further, it's not the least bit analogous to the terrorism you are
promoting. Left wingers in the US are not the occupying force of
another nation. They are US citizens with the same rights as any
other.
You are treasonous nazi filth. You hate freedom and belong in Iran.

Some will be shot from long distances, some will be shot up close, some
will be hung, some will be stabbed, some will be blown to bits, others
will be subjected to hideious tortures until they die in screaming
agony.


See a shrink at once instead of masturbating to sick torture and
murder fantasies on usenet.

Keep in mind that those 15 million people are made up of current and ex
military, current and ex law enforcement, hard working individuals and
small groups *who have finally, had enough.


They don't exist except in your sick mind.

The fact of the matter is..I fully believe that each and every leftist
has a long list of people that fully believe that the world would be a
far far better place if that particular Leftist was dead. *And when the
time comes...they will be made dead.


That is because you are insane. You are also admitting that right
wingers are, by nature, genocidal fascists.

Shrug..I hope Im wrong...but..I dont believe that I am.


No you don't, liar. You desperately hope you're right.

Im sure that there are people in your life that believe *you should be
dead, outside of Usenet.. *


Not a single one as far as I'm aware. See, unlike you, I'm not a hate-
filled asshole, so people tend to like me.

With luck, they will kill *you when the Great
Cull comes. *Now you can flee the US, stay on the *run, or stay and die.


But wait- didn't you just say you hoped it wouldn't happen? Now you
say the opposite.
Your slip is showing.

Pretty much up to you. *But the tide is building. This Great Depression
Part Deux will be an ugly nasty one..and it will last for at least
another 3 yrs. *And the Leftists have caused a great portion of it in
their attempts to Socialize America. *And will indeed...pay for it.


To those of us who dwell in the real world, the economic meltdown in
the US was precipitated by the unfettered ~greed~ of Wall Street. This
is undisputed among economists.
Funny how more "socialized" countries have been far less affected than
the US, isn't it?
You are utterly full of ****.

Blither all you want..you will likely be hunted down and killed by
someone who knows you. *And its totally *unlikely you will be able to
prevent it.


Implied threat noted, inept, genocidal terrorist wannabe. Go join your
jihadist brothers, you traitorous POS.

Shrug...its a mean future you are looking at. Shrug.


It's a sad present ~and~ future you're looking at if you don't get
medical help for your sick delusions.

And Im going to be sitting on my front porch, feet propped up, playing
the banjo in glee while listening to the body counts on the radio.


And picking corn out of the two teeth left in your ****-encrusted
mouth.

And you..will be part of the piles of dead leftists *bulldozed into mass
graves.


Genocide gives you a hard-on, I know. You're not just a nazi, you're a
totally ineffective one.

Shrug again.

Whatever your position is..means nothing.


If it means nothing, why bother to use threats? Only scared people do
that. Why are you so scared of opposing points of view, Gunner?
Methinks it's because the truth is painful.

You will be dead and no longer
of any consideration as America rebuilds itself.


You already are dead, Gunner. Dead inside.

Gunner

GUNNER'S PRAYER:
"God grant me the serenity to accept the people
that don't need to get shot, the courage to shoot
the people that need shooting and the wisdom to know the difference.
And if need be, the skill to get it done before I have to reload."


Terrorist threat again noted, Perhaps some American reading this will
report you to the proper authorities. I assume that's why you are
trying to claim it's not an actual threat. No courage of your
convictions, Gunner? Pussy.

You have neither the skill nor the will to do what you threaten. It's
just silly bravado from a gutless creep.


Lefty October 11th 09 04:22 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 9, 3:50*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:58:49 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:





An observation is a threat? *Fascinating how you Far Leftwing Extremist
Fringe Kooks try to change the language of the land eh?


Repeat; how is the date of my death an "observation"?


I could care less if you die in your sleep, or in screaming agony at the
crater of the IED that blew your legs off.


Typical theist- a rotten sinner to the core. If there is a deity, it
laughs in derision at you along with everybody else.


Im Buddhist. Shrug...we dont have "sinners"


Yet you believe God punishes them. You don't even know what Buddhism
is, freak. Buddhists don't believe in an all-powerful deity. Buddhism
is a philosophy of living, not a God-fearing religion.


But then..its been quite obvious from your postings, that you are as
stupid as a bag of dog ****.


Says the ignorant turd who thinks Buddhism is theistic. Get an
education, asshuffer.


Says someone who knows nothing of Buddhism.


snicker!

"Generally Buddhism does not believe in a personal God or a divine
being, it does not have worship, praying to, or praising of a divine
being (although some sects do.) It offers no form of redemption,
forgiveness, no heavenly hope, or a final judgment to those practicing
its system. Buddhism is a moral philosophy, an ethical way to live for
the here and now of this world to gain the ultimate state. It has more
in common with humanism and atheism than its original religion
Hinduism it separated from. But Buddhism is not atheism just because
they don’t believe in a personal God. It is more like pantheism, there
is a impersonal force the void which is the ultimate."

http://www.letusreason.org/Buddh1.htm

"For the most part, the Buddhist position on the God question is
neither yes nor no. Although some Buddhists consider themselves to be
atheists, and some (sorta kinda) conceptualize the buddhas and
bodhisattvas as godlike beings, the Buddha taught that belief in God
is irrelevant. Believing in God or not believing in God will not help
you realize enlightenment."

http://buddhism.about.com/b/2009/01/...d-buddhism.htm

You are a joke, Gunner. Not a single word you post contains any fact
or recognition of reality.

I strongly suggest you make
plans to move to Canada or some other nation in the not too distant
future.


Already there, but implied threat again noted. You must find the truth
terrifying, Gunner.






Lefty October 11th 09 04:40 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 9, 3:51*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:01:56 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:



Uhm, if you like dogs don't bring yours into the conversation. *Gummer
proudly posted about hanging his to death on a choker chain...


Ironic, since he's claiming to be a Buddhist. Buddhists believe in
respect for all forms of life and total non-violence.
Bat**** crazy doesn't even begin to describe this guy.


So Buddhists never kill?


Strawman. They're not ~supposed~ to kill, stupid. Of course they do,
because mostly they're hypocrites like you.

I see you know nothing of the East.


Knowing nothing is your area, Gunner. I bow to your greater
experience.

Let alone the Rensi Buddhists.


Please provide links to the existence of such a sect. Perhaps you mean
Ritsu? Put up or shut up, coward. Show me a school of Buddhism that is
theistic and sanctions murder or admit your hypocrisy.

But then..you continue to prove your stupidity to one and all.


Says the theistic, murderous "Buddhist" who brags of torturing
animals. Do you brag about ****ing your mother and claim to be a
virgin, too?

I hope your death is slow.


That scared of being shown for the ignoramus you are, eh? Good.

Gunner

GUNNER'S PRAYER:
"God grant me the serenity to accept the people
that don't need to get shot, the courage to shoot
the people that need shooting and the wisdom to know the difference.
And if need be, the skill to get it done before I have to reload."

0



Lefty October 11th 09 04:45 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 9, 8:54*am, Howard Brazee wrote:
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:58:49 -0700 (PDT), Lefty

wrote:
Im Buddhist. Shrug...we dont have "sinners"


Yet you believe God punishes them. You don't even know what Buddhism
is, freak. Buddhists don't believe in an all-powerful deity. Buddhism
is a philosophy of living, not a God-fearing religion.


The Buddha famously said he didn't know about gods. * If a Buddhist
wants to be a theist, his religion doesn't stop him. * *That said, I
don't know that I've met one.


Neither have I. It's certainly not a philosophy in which a believer
would claim God punishes people.



Lefty October 11th 09 04:47 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 9, 8:56*am, Howard Brazee wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:51:46 -0700, Gunner Asch

wrote:
Ironic, since he's claiming to be a Buddhist. Buddhists believe in
respect for all forms of life and total non-violence.
Bat**** crazy doesn't even begin to describe this guy.


So Buddhists never kill? * I see you know nothing of the East.


There are lots of people in all religions who live differently than
the precepts of their religions.


Exactly so, and they are hypocrites who should be called on it.


Gunner Asch October 11th 09 11:07 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:22:37 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:

On Oct 9, 3:50*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:58:49 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:





An observation is a threat? *Fascinating how you Far Leftwing Extremist
Fringe Kooks try to change the language of the land eh?


Repeat; how is the date of my death an "observation"?


I could care less if you die in your sleep, or in screaming agony at the
crater of the IED that blew your legs off.


Typical theist- a rotten sinner to the core. If there is a deity, it
laughs in derision at you along with everybody else.


Im Buddhist. Shrug...we dont have "sinners"


Yet you believe God punishes them. You don't even know what Buddhism
is, freak. Buddhists don't believe in an all-powerful deity. Buddhism
is a philosophy of living, not a God-fearing religion.


But then..its been quite obvious from your postings, that you are as
stupid as a bag of dog ****.


Says the ignorant turd who thinks Buddhism is theistic. Get an
education, asshuffer.


Says someone who knows nothing of Buddhism.


snicker!

"Generally Buddhism does not believe in a personal God or a divine
being, it does not have worship, praying to, or praising of a divine
being (although some sects do.) It offers no form of redemption,
forgiveness, no heavenly hope, or a final judgment to those practicing
its system. Buddhism is a moral philosophy, an ethical way to live for
the here and now of this world to gain the ultimate state. It has more
in common with humanism and atheism than its original religion
Hinduism it separated from. But Buddhism is not atheism just because
they don’t believe in a personal God. It is more like pantheism, there
is a impersonal force the void which is the ultimate."

http://www.letusreason.org/Buddh1.htm

"For the most part, the Buddhist position on the God question is
neither yes nor no. Although some Buddhists consider themselves to be
atheists, and some (sorta kinda) conceptualize the buddhas and
bodhisattvas as godlike beings, the Buddha taught that belief in God
is irrelevant. Believing in God or not believing in God will not help
you realize enlightenment."

http://buddhism.about.com/b/2009/01/...d-buddhism.htm

You are a joke, Gunner. Not a single word you post contains any fact
or recognition of reality.

I strongly suggest you make
plans to move to Canada or some other nation in the not too distant
future.


Already there, but implied threat again noted. You must find the truth
terrifying, Gunner.




Perhaps you have never studied the Pali Canon..so your ignorance makes
you believe that you know something, when in reality..you are dumber
than a box of rocks...and delight in your ignorance.

Pity




"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno

Gunner Asch October 11th 09 11:11 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:40:16 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:

But then..you continue to prove your stupidity to one and all.


Says the theistic, murderous "Buddhist" who brags of torturing
animals



Torturing animals? Blink blink...so know we all know what depths of
lies and buffoonery you will stoop.

And its lower than sewer bottom deep.

Its commonly known that I do animal rescue and yet you somehow claim Ive
bragged about "animal torture"

Your lies condemn you to the buffoon bin.

Once someone like you starts lying..the only way you will stop, is
meeting death.

plink

Gunner


"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno

wf3h October 11th 09 11:20 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 11, 6:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


like the people who weep when an american president wins a nobel
prize, or jump for joy when the US loses the olympics?

are those the useful idiots...enemies of america...lenin had in mind?

TopBassDog October 12th 09 12:02 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 11, 5:20*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Oct 11, 6:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"


Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


like the people who weep when an american president wins a nobel
prize, or jump for joy when the US loses the olympics?

are those the useful idiots...enemies of america...lenin had in mind?


For being such a "useful idiot" you're actually more of a "bafoon."

Gunner Asch October 12th 09 01:49 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and Destroy Middle Class
 
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:07:41 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:




Perhaps you have never studied the Pali Canon..so your ignorance makes
you believe that you know something, when in reality..you are dumber
than a box of rocks...and delight in your ignorance.

Pity



I also forgot to mention Mahayana Buddha

Gunner

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno

wf3h October 12th 09 02:42 AM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 11, 7:02*pm, TopBassDog wrote:
On Oct 11, 5:20*pm, wf3h wrote:





On Oct 11, 6:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"


Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


like the people who weep when an american president wins a nobel
prize, or jump for joy when the US loses the olympics?


are those the useful idiots...enemies of america...lenin had in mind?


For being such a "useful idiot" you're actually more of *a "bafoon."-


says the right winger who hopes the US gets destroyed...as long as
obama is president

Lefty October 14th 09 09:55 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 11, 6:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:22:37 -0700 (PDT), Lefty



wrote:
On Oct 9, 3:50*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:58:49 -0700 (PDT), Lefty
wrote:


An observation is a threat? *Fascinating how you Far Leftwing Extremist
Fringe Kooks try to change the language of the land eh?


Repeat; how is the date of my death an "observation"?


I could care less if you die in your sleep, or in screaming agony at the
crater of the IED that blew your legs off.


Typical theist- a rotten sinner to the core. If there is a deity, it
laughs in derision at you along with everybody else.


Im Buddhist. Shrug...we dont have "sinners"


Yet you believe God punishes them. You don't even know what Buddhism
is, freak. Buddhists don't believe in an all-powerful deity. Buddhism
is a philosophy of living, not a God-fearing religion.


But then..its been quite obvious from your postings, that you are as
stupid as a bag of dog ****.


Says the ignorant turd who thinks Buddhism is theistic. Get an
education, asshuffer.


Says someone who knows nothing of Buddhism.


snicker!


"Generally Buddhism does not believe in a personal God or a divine
being, it does not have worship, praying to, or praising of a divine
being (although some sects do.) It offers no form of redemption,
forgiveness, no heavenly hope, or a final judgment to those practicing
its system. Buddhism is a moral philosophy, an ethical way to live for
the here and now of this world to gain the ultimate state. It has more
in common with humanism and atheism than its original religion
Hinduism it separated from. But Buddhism is not atheism just because
they don’t believe in a personal God. It is more like pantheism, there
is a impersonal force the void which is the ultimate."


http://www.letusreason.org/Buddh1.htm


"For the most part, the Buddhist position on the God question is
neither yes nor no. Although some Buddhists consider themselves to be
atheists, and some (sorta kinda) conceptualize the buddhas and
bodhisattvas as godlike beings, the Buddha taught that belief in God
is irrelevant. Believing in God or not believing in God will not help
you realize enlightenment."


http://buddhism.about.com/b/2009/01/...d-buddhism.htm


You are a joke, Gunner. Not a single word you post contains any fact
or recognition of reality.


I strongly suggest you make
plans to move to Canada or some other nation in the not too distant
future.


Already there, but implied threat again noted. You must find the truth
terrifying, Gunner.


Perhaps you have never studied the Pali Canon..


Neither have you, hypocrite. I'm not the one claiming to be a
Buddhist. You are. So put up or shut up. Provide links to back up your
claims.

so your ignorance makes
you believe that you know something, when in reality..you are dumber
than a box of rocks...and delight in your ignorance.


I never claimed to know anything about your precious Pali canon,
stupid, Why don't you tell me about it and explain how it is
relevant?
That would be because you can't, and it isn't.

You total evasion of my points proves you a coward. But we knew that.




Lefty October 14th 09 10:01 PM

Income GapWidens as Immigrants Drive Down Wages and DestroyMiddle Class
 
On Oct 11, 8:49*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:07:41 -0700, Gunner Asch

wrote:

Perhaps you have never studied the Pali Canon..so your ignorance makes
you believe that you know something, when in reality..you are dumber
than a box of rocks...and delight in your ignorance.


Pity


I also forgot to mention *Mahayana *Buddha


How are you claiming that is relevant? Provide a cite or STFU.



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:08 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com