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Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ers-for-racism
"What I'm looking for is the very people who carry the signs who are referring to the policies in very, very strange ways like 'Obamacare' and 'Barry Obamacare with Kennedy,'" she said. "What I've been interested in is hearing from those people that everybody's referring to -- everybody on the Mall, in the rally." So if we understand "Mad" Max Waters correctly, calling President Obama’s overhaul of the American health-care system “ObamaCare” is evidence of some kind of bigotry, either latent or overt. Calling protesters “teabaggers,” on the other hand, is what, exactly? Wit? Sophomoric humor? More likely complete and total ignorance of American history. http://www.boston-tea-party.org/ Which, when you think about it, is probably the case. Ignorance of history is a liberal trait. Along with not being able to count. |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
Toots Sweet wrote:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ers-for-racism "What I'm looking for is the very people who carry the signs who are referring to the policies in very, very strange ways like 'Obamacare' and 'Barry Obamacare with Kennedy,'" she said. "What I've been interested in is hearing from those people that everybody's referring to -- everybody on the Mall, in the rally." Politics is a blood sport Maxine. So if we understand "Mad" Max Waters correctly, calling President Obama’s overhaul of the American health-care system “ObamaCare” is evidence of some kind of bigotry, either latent or overt. I just heard it straight from Obama's mouth last Wednesday night that he had a plan to reform health care in the USA. ObamaCare sounds like a good branding of the product he is pushing. Calling protesters “teabaggers,” on the other hand, is what, exactly? Wit? Sophomoric humor? I want to know why the GLBT community isn't up in arms about the overt homosexual connotation of tea-bagging. More likely complete and total ignorance of American history. http://www.boston-tea-party.org/ The next time Congress starts an amnesty for illegal aliens we should all send them a brick via UPS or FedEx. Forget about sending it USPS. Think of the increase in revenue to these public corporations and the message of several tens of millions of bricks being delivered to Congress. Which, when you think about it, is probably the case. Ignorance of history is a liberal trait. Along with not being able to count. |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
Oh my... you know nothing about the Boston Tea Party. Sad.
"Toots Sweet" wrote in message ... http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ers-for-racism Calling protesters “teabaggers,” on the other hand, is what, exactly? Wit? Sophomoric humor? More likely complete and total ignorance of American history. http://www.boston-tea-party.org/ -- Nom=de=Plume |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
"BAR" wrote in message
... Toots Sweet wrote: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ers-for-racism "What I'm looking for is the very people who carry the signs who are referring to the policies in very, very strange ways like 'Obamacare' and 'Barry Obamacare with Kennedy,'" she said. "What I've been interested in is hearing from those people that everybody's referring to -- everybody on the Mall, in the rally." Politics is a blood sport Maxine. So if we understand "Mad" Max Waters correctly, calling President Obama’s overhaul of the American health-care system “ObamaCare” is evidence of some kind of bigotry, either latent or overt. I just heard it straight from Obama's mouth last Wednesday night that he had a plan to reform health care in the USA. ObamaCare sounds like a good branding of the product he is pushing. Calling protesters “teabaggers,” on the other hand, is what, exactly? Wit? Sophomoric humor? Yes. Wit. And, that's pretty much what they're calling themselves. I want to know why the GLBT community isn't up in arms about the overt homosexual connotation of tea-bagging. Most likely they are trying to recruit some new members. lol -- Nom=de=Plume |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
On Sep 16, 6:45*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
Oh my... you know nothing about the Boston Tea Party. Sad. The great thing about this country is that people like you working with only one functioning neuron are allowed to have an opinion and openly express it. It's kind of like watching drunk Old Uncle Harry when he's trying to molest the nieces and nephews. You ignore him and keep the kids out of his reach. |
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Wow... what a come back. Next time stay awake in your history class in high
school. "Toots Sweet" wrote in message ... On Sep 16, 6:45 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Oh my... you know nothing about the Boston Tea Party. Sad. The great thing about this country is that people like you working with only one functioning neuron are allowed to have an opinion and openly express it. It's kind of like watching drunk Old Uncle Harry when he's trying to molest the nieces and nephews. You ignore him and keep the kids out of his reach. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
On Sep 16, 8:01*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
Wow... what a come back. Next time stay awake in your history class in high school. "Toots Sweet" wrote in message ... On Sep 16, 6:45 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Oh my... you know nothing about the Boston Tea Party. Sad. The great thing about this country is that people like you working with only one functioning neuron are allowed to have an opinion and openly express it. It's kind of like watching drunk Old Uncle Harry when he's trying to molest the nieces and nephews. You ignore him and keep the kids out of his reach. -- Nom=de=Plume Next time have a bit of knowledge about what you wish to post before you post it. |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
... On Sep 16, 8:01 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Wow... what a come back. Next time stay awake in your history class in high school. "Toots Sweet" wrote in message ... On Sep 16, 6:45 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Oh my... you know nothing about the Boston Tea Party. Sad. The great thing about this country is that people like you working with only one functioning neuron are allowed to have an opinion and openly express it. It's kind of like watching drunk Old Uncle Harry when he's trying to molest the nieces and nephews. You ignore him and keep the kids out of his reach. -- Nom=de=Plume Next time have a bit of knowledge about what you wish to post before you post it. Like I said, he knows nothing about history. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
On Sep 17, 9:02*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 16, 8:01 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Wow... what a come back. Next time stay awake in your history class in high school. "Toots Sweet" wrote in message .... On Sep 16, 6:45 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Oh my... you know nothing about the Boston Tea Party. Sad. The great thing about this country is that people like you working with only one functioning neuron are allowed to have an opinion and openly express it. It's kind of like watching drunk Old Uncle Harry when he's trying to molest the nieces and nephews. You ignore him and keep the kids out of his reach. -- Nom=de=Plume Next time have a bit of knowledge about what you wish to post before you post it. Like I said, he knows nothing about history. -- Nom=de=Plume- The people that participated in the Boston Tea Party weren't called teabaggers. The term teabagger is a recent invention, and one that carries a negative stigma, at least for most people. The application of it to the protesters is an attempt by their opponents to ridicule them. To wit: "Only now, the protesters and their organizers are fighting a battle on two fronts: not only against what they see as a government gone wild with giveaways; but ridicule for the double meaning of "tea bagging."" From http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?...&sc3=&id=89676 The original poster knows what the Tea Party was about... he provided a link to an explanation of it. The double meaning and innuendo contained in this thread either went over your head, or you're trying far too hard to be rude. |
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Jack wrote:
On Sep 17, 9:02 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 16, 8:01 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Wow... what a come back. Next time stay awake in your history class in high school. "Toots Sweet" wrote in message ... On Sep 16, 6:45 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Oh my... you know nothing about the Boston Tea Party. Sad. The great thing about this country is that people like you working with only one functioning neuron are allowed to have an opinion and openly express it. It's kind of like watching drunk Old Uncle Harry when he's trying to molest the nieces and nephews. You ignore him and keep the kids out of his reach. -- Nom=de=Plume Next time have a bit of knowledge about what you wish to post before you post it. Like I said, he knows nothing about history. -- Nom=de=Plume- The people that participated in the Boston Tea Party weren't called teabaggers. The term teabagger is a recent invention, and one that carries a negative stigma, at least for most people. The application of it to the protesters is an attempt by their opponents to ridicule them. Indeed, as well it ought. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
"Jack" wrote in message ... On Sep 17, 9:02 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 16, 8:01 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Wow... what a come back. Next time stay awake in your history class in high school. "Toots Sweet" wrote in message ... On Sep 16, 6:45 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Oh my... you know nothing about the Boston Tea Party. Sad. The great thing about this country is that people like you working with only one functioning neuron are allowed to have an opinion and openly express it. It's kind of like watching drunk Old Uncle Harry when he's trying to molest the nieces and nephews. You ignore him and keep the kids out of his reach. -- Nom=de=Plume Next time have a bit of knowledge about what you wish to post before you post it. Like I said, he knows nothing about history. -- Nom=de=Plume- The people that participated in the Boston Tea Party weren't called teabaggers. The term teabagger is a recent invention, and one that carries a negative stigma, at least for most people. The application of it to the protesters is an attempt by their opponents to ridicule them. To wit: "Only now, the protesters and their organizers are fighting a battle on two fronts: not only against what they see as a government gone wild with giveaways; but ridicule for the double meaning of "tea bagging."" From http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?...&sc3=&id=89676 The original poster knows what the Tea Party was about... he provided a link to an explanation of it. The double meaning and innuendo contained in this thread either went over your head, or you're trying far too hard to be rude. reply: You don't think that could be the case, do you? Steve ;-) |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
The Boston Tea Party was about taxation without representation. All the
people protesting and calling themselves tea bag protesters have representation. Thus, what they are doing has nothing to do with the BTP. Have a great day! "Jack" wrote in message ... On Sep 17, 9:02 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 16, 8:01 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Wow... what a come back. Next time stay awake in your history class in high school. "Toots Sweet" wrote in message ... On Sep 16, 6:45 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Oh my... you know nothing about the Boston Tea Party. Sad. The great thing about this country is that people like you working with only one functioning neuron are allowed to have an opinion and openly express it. It's kind of like watching drunk Old Uncle Harry when he's trying to molest the nieces and nephews. You ignore him and keep the kids out of his reach. -- Nom=de=Plume Next time have a bit of knowledge about what you wish to post before you post it. Like I said, he knows nothing about history. -- Nom=de=Plume- The people that participated in the Boston Tea Party weren't called teabaggers. The term teabagger is a recent invention, and one that carries a negative stigma, at least for most people. The application of it to the protesters is an attempt by their opponents to ridicule them. To wit: "Only now, the protesters and their organizers are fighting a battle on two fronts: not only against what they see as a government gone wild with giveaways; but ridicule for the double meaning of "tea bagging."" From http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?...&sc3=&id=89676 The original poster knows what the Tea Party was about... he provided a link to an explanation of it. The double meaning and innuendo contained in this thread either went over your head, or you're trying far too hard to be rude. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
On Sep 17, 2:28*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
The Boston Tea Party was about taxation without representation. All the people protesting and calling themselves tea bag protesters have representation. Thus, what they are doing has nothing to do with the BTP. Only problem is, these people don't feel that they *do* have representation. They feel that the government, in general, is not representing their viewpoints. IOW, they feel they have representatives that aren't representing *them*, while still being taxed. Hey, relax. It was nothing more than a catchy name for just another demonstration from a group of activist. Both sides of the political spectrum has them all the time. This time the liberals smeared it with a vulgar reference that caught on. It didn't seem like you appreciated people being rude or vulgar. Maybe I'm wrong? |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
Jack wrote:
On Sep 17, 2:28 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The Boston Tea Party was about taxation without representation. All the people protesting and calling themselves tea bag protesters have representation. Thus, what they are doing has nothing to do with the BTP. Only problem is, these people don't feel that they *do* have representation. They feel that the government, in general, is not representing their viewpoints. IOW, they feel they have representatives that aren't representing *them*, while still being taxed. Hey, relax. It was nothing more than a catchy name for just another demonstration from a group of activist. Both sides of the political spectrum has them all the time. This time the liberals smeared it with a vulgar reference that caught on. It didn't seem like you appreciated people being rude or vulgar. Maybe I'm wrong? Teabaggers, Birthers, Deathers, Tenthers - right-wing scumbags, all of them, just like you. They may feel as if they "don't have representation," but they do. They have the same right and ability to vote as every other voter. The country had eight years of their bull**** with Bush and decided it was time to move on, and with a black president. *That* is what is behind the right-wingers these days, their absolute intolerance for a black man in the White House. Not to worry; in 2016 the Democrats will nominate a Latino, and then, eight years later, a woman. By then, the white race will be a political minority. Maybe the ones who can't tolerate that will move to South Carolina or Texas and secede. |
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Harry the Klown wrote:
and with a black president. *That* is what is behind the right-wingers these days, their absolute intolerance for a black man in the White House. Ah, the race card. Call somebody a racist and watch their knees tremble. Too bad he's not a "black man". He's just as much a "white man" as he is a "black man". There are certainly many qualified black men who could do a far better job than the current "black man" in the White House. Bring them on. Who cares about the skin color? Democrats. Oppose Obama's policies = racist. Former President Jimmy Carter: An affable man, but a very misguided soul. Johnson |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
"Jack" wrote in message
... On Sep 17, 2:28 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The Boston Tea Party was about taxation without representation. All the people protesting and calling themselves tea bag protesters have representation. Thus, what they are doing has nothing to do with the BTP. Only problem is, these people don't feel that they *do* have representation. They feel that the government, in general, is not representing their viewpoints. IOW, they feel they have representatives that aren't representing *them*, while still being taxed. Reply: Then they should take it up with the people they elected or voted for and/or elect someone else next time? If they voted for someone and that person lost, then they need to understand that's how the democratic process works. Just like when Bush was elected (well... anyway). I didn't like it, but he was still the president. Even though I really dislike him, I didn't like the idea of him going to Iraq that first time. I thought it was foolishly dangerous. Hey, relax. It was nothing more than a catchy name for just another demonstration from a group of activist. Both sides of the political spectrum has them all the time. This time the liberals smeared it with a vulgar reference that caught on. It didn't seem like you appreciated people being rude or vulgar. Maybe I'm wrong? Reply: I don't. In that case, I take it you're not happy with people using racial slurs when referencing the president... all the monkey, banana eating stuff? Not to make too fine a point on it, but the context of the language is important and has to be considered. And, the context of that kind of slur conjures up a very nasty bit of US history. So, if someone calls White Person X a monkey, then there's like no racial slur intended (at least not in the US). On the other hand, if someone calls Black Person Y a monkey, then there's all sorts of racial baggage that goes along with the comment. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sep 17, 6:31*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message ... On Sep 17, 2:28 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The Boston Tea Party was about taxation without representation. All the people protesting and calling themselves tea bag protesters have representation. Thus, what they are doing has nothing to do with the BTP. Only problem is, these people don't feel that they *do* have representation. *They feel that the government, in general, is not representing their viewpoints. *IOW, they feel they have representatives that aren't representing *them*, while still being taxed. Reply: Then they should take it up with the people they elected or voted for and/or elect someone else next time? If they voted for someone and that person lost, then they need to understand that's how the democratic process works. Just like when Bush was elected (well... anyway). I didn't like it, but he was still the president. Even though I really dislike him, I didn't like the idea of him going to Iraq that first time. I thought it was foolishly dangerous. Demonstrations *are* a method of taking it up with their elected officials. The liberals weren't silent during the 8 years of President Bush, were they? Of course not, so why should things suddenly be different now? Hey, relax. *It was nothing more than a catchy name for just another demonstration from a group of activist. *Both sides of the political spectrum has them all the time. *This time the liberals smeared it with a vulgar reference that caught on. *It didn't seem like you appreciated people being rude or vulgar. *Maybe I'm wrong? Reply: I don't. In that case, I take it you're not happy with people using racial slurs when referencing the president... all the monkey, banana eating stuff? Not to make too fine a point on it, but the context of the language is important and has to be considered. And, the context of that kind of slur conjures up a very nasty bit of US history. So, if someone calls White Person X a monkey, then there's like no racial slur intended (at least not in the US). On the other hand, if someone calls Black Person Y a monkey, then there's all sorts of racial baggage that goes along with the comment.. You say you don't, but you sure don't seem to mind repeating it, do you? I don't like it when people use racial slurs against anyone, including Obama. I also don't like it when anyone that dare express an opinion opposite Obama's opinion gets automatically labelled a racist. That's happening as well, but I don't sense any outrage from you on that. BTW, there is no racial overtone to "You lie!" But many liberals sure want to make it seem that way, don't they? Or maybe you're smart enough to realize that Jimmy Carter doesn't have a clue. |
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:31:36 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Sep 17, 2:28 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The Boston Tea Party was about taxation without representation. All the people protesting and calling themselves tea bag protesters have representation. Thus, what they are doing has nothing to do with the BTP. Only problem is, these people don't feel that they *do* have representation. They feel that the government, in general, is not representing their viewpoints. IOW, they feel they have representatives that aren't representing *them*, while still being taxed. Reply: Then they should take it up with the people they elected or voted for and/or elect someone else next time? If they voted for someone and that person lost, then they need to understand that's how the democratic process works. Just like when Bush was elected (well... anyway). I didn't like it, but he was still the president. Even though I really dislike him, I didn't like the idea of him going to Iraq that first time. I thought it was foolishly dangerous. Hey, relax. It was nothing more than a catchy name for just another demonstration from a group of activist. Both sides of the political spectrum has them all the time. This time the liberals smeared it with a vulgar reference that caught on. It didn't seem like you appreciated people being rude or vulgar. Maybe I'm wrong? Reply: I don't. In that case, I take it you're not happy with people using racial slurs when referencing the president... all the monkey, banana eating stuff? Not to make too fine a point on it, but the context of the language is important and has to be considered. And, the context of that kind of slur conjures up a very nasty bit of US history. So, if someone calls White Person X a monkey, then there's like no racial slur intended (at least not in the US). On the other hand, if someone calls Black Person Y a monkey, then there's all sorts of racial baggage that goes along with the comment. So this is OK - http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Bush-monkey.gif But this isn't - http://tinyurl.com/mb8r74 More horse poop. They're both equally offensive. You folks are playing the racial card. Hopefully most folks will have enough sense to see the play - by the White House and the National Hemorrhoid (aka Jimmy Carter). -- John H |
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H the K wrote:
Jack wrote: On Sep 17, 9:02 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 16, 8:01 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Wow... what a come back. Next time stay awake in your history class in high school. "Toots Sweet" wrote in message ... On Sep 16, 6:45 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Oh my... you know nothing about the Boston Tea Party. Sad. The great thing about this country is that people like you working with only one functioning neuron are allowed to have an opinion and openly express it. It's kind of like watching drunk Old Uncle Harry when he's trying to molest the nieces and nephews. You ignore him and keep the kids out of his reach. -- Nom=de=Plume Next time have a bit of knowledge about what you wish to post before you post it. Like I said, he knows nothing about history. -- Nom=de=Plume- The people that participated in the Boston Tea Party weren't called teabaggers. The term teabagger is a recent invention, and one that carries a negative stigma, at least for most people. The application of it to the protesters is an attempt by their opponents to ridicule them. Indeed, as well it ought. Like a name-calling narcissistic child... |
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"Johnson" wrote in message ... Harry the Klown wrote: and with a black president. *That* is what is behind the right-wingers these days, their absolute intolerance for a black man in the White House. Ah, the race card. Call somebody a racist and watch their knees tremble. Too bad he's not a "black man". He's just as much a "white man" as he is a "black man". There are certainly many qualified black men who could do a far better job than the current "black man" in the White House. Bring them on. Who cares about the skin color? Democrats. Oppose Obama's policies = racist. Former President Jimmy Carter: An affable man, but a very misguided soul. Johnson I bet $20 that you could ask Jimmy what day it was and today's date, and he wouldn't get it right. The tapes I saw of him lately looked like he was going to drool at any second. And those Orphan Annie eyes ................ OY! Steve |
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"Jack" wrote in message
... On Sep 17, 6:31 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Sep 17, 2:28 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The Boston Tea Party was about taxation without representation. All the people protesting and calling themselves tea bag protesters have representation. Thus, what they are doing has nothing to do with the BTP. Only problem is, these people don't feel that they *do* have representation. They feel that the government, in general, is not representing their viewpoints. IOW, they feel they have representatives that aren't representing *them*, while still being taxed. Reply: Then they should take it up with the people they elected or voted for and/or elect someone else next time? If they voted for someone and that person lost, then they need to understand that's how the democratic process works. Just like when Bush was elected (well... anyway). I didn't like it, but he was still the president. Even though I really dislike him, I didn't like the idea of him going to Iraq that first time. I thought it was foolishly dangerous. Demonstrations *are* a method of taking it up with their elected officials. The liberals weren't silent during the 8 years of President Bush, were they? Of course not, so why should things suddenly be different now? Reply: True enough, but calling them Tea Party protests is an error of understanding. It was supposed to be symbolic, but the symbology doesn't fit the protests. Hey, relax. It was nothing more than a catchy name for just another demonstration from a group of activist. Both sides of the political spectrum has them all the time. This time the liberals smeared it with a vulgar reference that caught on. It didn't seem like you appreciated people being rude or vulgar. Maybe I'm wrong? Reply: I don't. In that case, I take it you're not happy with people using racial slurs when referencing the president... all the monkey, banana eating stuff? Not to make too fine a point on it, but the context of the language is important and has to be considered. And, the context of that kind of slur conjures up a very nasty bit of US history. So, if someone calls White Person X a monkey, then there's like no racial slur intended (at least not in the US). On the other hand, if someone calls Black Person Y a monkey, then there's all sorts of racial baggage that goes along with the comment. You say you don't, but you sure don't seem to mind repeating it, do you? I don't like it when people use racial slurs against anyone, including Obama. I also don't like it when anyone that dare express an opinion opposite Obama's opinion gets automatically labelled a racist. That's happening as well, but I don't sense any outrage from you on that. BTW, there is no racial overtone to "You lie!" But many liberals sure want to make it seem that way, don't they? Or maybe you're smart enough to realize that Jimmy Carter doesn't have a clue. Reply: I'm not repeating anything. You asked a question, so I tried to answer honestly. Again, you go on about "anyone" daring to express an opposite opinion, but as you well know, the left *have* been criticizing him. Then you go on to say it's happening. Well, yeah, and I don't have any objection to raising objections about policy issues. Re the "You lie" outburst. Are you aware that Wilson voted against removing the Confederate flag from the state house? This is a symbol of what? It's pretty clear that he supports a position that coincides with that symbol. I'm having trouble believing that you're really interested in exploring my comment about racial baggage, so I think I'll just drop it. You can have the last word. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"JohnH" wrote in message
... On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:31:36 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Sep 17, 2:28 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The Boston Tea Party was about taxation without representation. All the people protesting and calling themselves tea bag protesters have representation. Thus, what they are doing has nothing to do with the BTP. Only problem is, these people don't feel that they *do* have representation. They feel that the government, in general, is not representing their viewpoints. IOW, they feel they have representatives that aren't representing *them*, while still being taxed. Reply: Then they should take it up with the people they elected or voted for and/or elect someone else next time? If they voted for someone and that person lost, then they need to understand that's how the democratic process works. Just like when Bush was elected (well... anyway). I didn't like it, but he was still the president. Even though I really dislike him, I didn't like the idea of him going to Iraq that first time. I thought it was foolishly dangerous. Hey, relax. It was nothing more than a catchy name for just another demonstration from a group of activist. Both sides of the political spectrum has them all the time. This time the liberals smeared it with a vulgar reference that caught on. It didn't seem like you appreciated people being rude or vulgar. Maybe I'm wrong? Reply: I don't. In that case, I take it you're not happy with people using racial slurs when referencing the president... all the monkey, banana eating stuff? Not to make too fine a point on it, but the context of the language is important and has to be considered. And, the context of that kind of slur conjures up a very nasty bit of US history. So, if someone calls White Person X a monkey, then there's like no racial slur intended (at least not in the US). On the other hand, if someone calls Black Person Y a monkey, then there's all sorts of racial baggage that goes along with the comment. So this is OK - http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Bush-monkey.gif But this isn't - http://tinyurl.com/mb8r74 More horse poop. They're both equally offensive. You folks are playing the racial card. Hopefully most folks will have enough sense to see the play - by the White House and the National Hemorrhoid (aka Jimmy Carter). -- John H Neither is ok. I never said the former was, and it seems like you're just trying to put words in my mouth. Re-read the part about baggage. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
"JohnH" wrote in message
... On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:31:36 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Sep 17, 2:28 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The Boston Tea Party was about taxation without representation. All the people protesting and calling themselves tea bag protesters have representation. Thus, what they are doing has nothing to do with the BTP. Only problem is, these people don't feel that they *do* have representation. They feel that the government, in general, is not representing their viewpoints. IOW, they feel they have representatives that aren't representing *them*, while still being taxed. Reply: Then they should take it up with the people they elected or voted for and/or elect someone else next time? If they voted for someone and that person lost, then they need to understand that's how the democratic process works. Just like when Bush was elected (well... anyway). I didn't like it, but he was still the president. Even though I really dislike him, I didn't like the idea of him going to Iraq that first time. I thought it was foolishly dangerous. Hey, relax. It was nothing more than a catchy name for just another demonstration from a group of activist. Both sides of the political spectrum has them all the time. This time the liberals smeared it with a vulgar reference that caught on. It didn't seem like you appreciated people being rude or vulgar. Maybe I'm wrong? Reply: I don't. In that case, I take it you're not happy with people using racial slurs when referencing the president... all the monkey, banana eating stuff? Not to make too fine a point on it, but the context of the language is important and has to be considered. And, the context of that kind of slur conjures up a very nasty bit of US history. So, if someone calls White Person X a monkey, then there's like no racial slur intended (at least not in the US). On the other hand, if someone calls Black Person Y a monkey, then there's all sorts of racial baggage that goes along with the comment. So this is OK - http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Bush-monkey.gif But this isn't - http://tinyurl.com/mb8r74 More horse poop. They're both equally offensive. You folks are playing the racial card. Hopefully most folks will have enough sense to see the play - by the White House and the National Hemorrhoid (aka Jimmy Carter). -- John H Oh, and you can have the last word on the subject also. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
On Sep 17, 9:44*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message ... On Sep 17, 6:31 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Demonstrations *are* a method of taking it up with their elected officials. *The liberals weren't silent during the 8 years of President Bush, were they? *Of course not, so why should things suddenly be different now? Reply: True enough, but calling them Tea Party protests is an error of understanding. It was supposed to be symbolic, but the symbology doesn't fit the protests. I disagree. "they feel they have representatives that aren't representing *them*, while still being taxed. " The symbology fits perfectly, at least to them. You cut that, but it's pertinent. You say you don't, but you sure don't seem to mind repeating it, do you? *I don't like it when people use racial slurs against anyone, including Obama. *I also don't like it when anyone that dare express an opinion opposite Obama's opinion gets automatically labelled a racist. *That's happening as well, but I don't sense any outrage from you on that. *BTW, there is no racial overtone to "You lie!" *But many liberals sure want to make it seem that way, don't they? *Or maybe you're smart enough to realize that Jimmy Carter doesn't have a clue. Reply: I'm not repeating anything. You asked a question, so I tried to answer honestly. Again, you go on about "anyone" daring to express an opposite opinion, but as you well know, the left *have* been criticizing him. Then you go on to say it's happening. Well, yeah, and I don't have any objection to raising objections about policy issues. Oh.. you seemed to have an objection to the Tea Party demonstrators, and Toots who brought it up to begin with. You seem to have a problem with anyone that has a viewpoint that doesn't agree with your own. Re the "You lie" outburst. Are you aware that Wilson voted against removing the Confederate flag from the state house? This is a symbol of what? It's pretty clear that he supports a position that coincides with that symbol. Well, while I don't think that it belongs on the state house, or on the grounds, it *is* a bit of history. While it's history has meaning way beyond anything racial, the flag has been commandeered by groups on both sides with an agenda to represent racial repression. Wilson's attempts to keep the flag, however misguided they may be, don't mean he's a racist. I'm having trouble believing that you're really interested in exploring my comment about racial baggage, so I think I'll just drop it. You can have the last word. I'm sure that self-examination is difficult, but always necessary for proper perspective. Buh-bye. |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
Jack wrote:
Wilson's attempts to keep the flag, however misguided they may be, don't mean he's a racist. Wilson's history says he is a racist, and so does your history here. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
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Maxine "Thought Police" Waters
On Sep 17, 10:23*pm, H the K wrote:
Jack wrote: * Wilson's attempts to keep the flag, however misguided they may be, don't mean he's a racist. Wilson's history says he is a racist, and so does your history here. Cite one post of mine that supports your assertion. Or, go pound sand. |
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