Does Jimmy Carter read rec.boats?
 

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:46:42 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"H the K" wrote in message
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From NBC's Mark Murray
In an interview with NBC's Brian Williams, former Democratic President
Jimmy Carter attributed much of the conservative opposition that President
Obama is receiving to the issue of race.

snipped for brevity

I also think that a lot of it is more of a fear-based reaction than out and
out racism... white good/black bad. Obama is an unknown to lots and lots of
people.. unknown in the sense that some have never had a black man or women
be in charge of directly affecting their lives, and they're afraid.

The really disturbing part is the promoting of these feelings of fear and
uncertainty by "news services" such as Fox and Dick Army's Freedomworks.
Both of these groups know better. They should be ashamed of themselves.

There's no reason to insult the sensibilities of on concerned
Americans with untenable speculation. You are right in that in as
much as the anxiety produced by the apparent path the country is
taking could be described as fear by less discerning persons, the
description fails to acknowledge legitimate concerns of those persons
who have their sensibilities assaulted, too, by statements such as
this; "One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is
led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it
can also have great advantages," written by Tom Friedman for the NYT.
The obvious that smacks the 'enlightened' reader pugilistically
between the eyes is that any one-party rule is an open invitation for
the induction of a narcissitic Nero who may, on a whim, blithely pin
ne'er-do-wells to trees, coat with wax, and set afire to serve as
improvised night lights. If the autocrat can be enlightened the
autocrat can be debauch. But, this is just one of many scenarios that
has given rise to civil angst. To posit an argument that hinges on
the 'puerile' fears of a few citizens is to criminally deprecate the
wide-spread, warranted hand-wringing over profligate spending by our
"enlightened" legates and imperators. And if one decides that the
felonious argument should trump all other arguments, one can pull out
the Michael Moore rabbit of an argument out of the hat and flippantly
offer, "You really think that's ever going to happen?" Can history
ever serve as the example?

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wrote

Are the black tea baggers racist too? I saw plenty of them in the
pictures from DC.

I don't think there's a word in our language for a black racist, is there?

Steve

Does Jimmy Carter read rec.boats?
 

On Sep 15, 11:19*pm, Scott Dickson wrote:
On Sep 15, 10:14*pm, H the K wrote:





wf3h wrote:
On Sep 15, 9:13 pm, H the K wrote:
*From NBC's Mark Murray
In an interview with NBC's Brian Williams, former Democratic President
Jimmy Carter attributed much of the conservative opposition that
President Obama is receiving to the issue of race.

initially i didn't think this was true but i'm changing my mind...the
hatred of obama, along with the idea that he's some alien communist
sent to destroy america is so unbelieveable that no rational person
would propose it. it must be based on race

There's no other explanation for it.

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Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

He's a sock-puppet, controlled by those hiding in the wings....

Something like a lot of the posters here

and george bush was a model of independent thinking...

uh huh.

Does Jimmy Carter read rec.boats?
 

On Sep 15, 11:31*pm, Jack wrote:
On Sep 15, 9:32*pm, wf3h wrote:

On Sep 15, 9:13*pm, H the K wrote:

*From NBC's Mark Murray
In an interview with NBC's Brian Williams, former Democratic President
Jimmy Carter attributed much of the conservative opposition that
President Obama is receiving to the issue of race.

initially i didn't think this was true but i'm changing my mind...the
hatred of obama, along with the idea that he's some alien communist
sent to destroy america is so unbelieveable that no rational person
would propose it. it must be based on race

Poor old Carter is an old man, and hasn't come along with the rest of
the country. *He hasn't gotten over the rabbit attack? *

carter's not the only one saying it.

Does Jimmy Carter read rec.boats?
 

On Sep 16, 12:46*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"H the K" wrote in messagenews:2LmdnfhTW506pi3XnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@earth link.com...





From NBC's Mark Murray
In an interview with NBC's Brian Williams, former Democratic President
Jimmy Carter attributed much of the conservative opposition that President
Obama is receiving to the issue of race.

"I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity
toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black
man," Carter said. "I live in the South, and I've seen the South come a
long way, and I've seen the rest of the country that share the South's
attitude toward minority groups at that time, particularly African
Americans."

Carter continued, "And that racism inclination still exists. And I think
it's bubbled up to the surface because of the belief among many white
people, not just in the South but around the country, that
African-Americans are not qualified to lead this great country. It's an
abominable circumstance, and it grieves me and concerns me very deeply."
--

President Carter...he must be reading herring, jack, justhate, DK, BAR and
the rest of the right-wing bigots who populate this joint.

I definitely think a lot of it is racism. Just look at the signs displayed
in the rally in DC... I certainly acknowledge that Bush got treated to signs
comparing him to Hitler, but I don't believe any of them made reference to
his race.


and the comment by southerners like saxby chambliss that obama should
show some 'humility'...as someone asked, would a white southerner say
that to a white president?

Does Jimmy Carter read rec.boats?
 

wf3h wrote:
On Sep 15, 11:19 pm, Scott Dickson wrote:
On Sep 15, 10:14 pm, H the K wrote:





wf3h wrote:
On Sep 15, 9:13 pm, H the K wrote:
From NBC's Mark Murray
In an interview with NBC's Brian Williams, former Democratic President
Jimmy Carter attributed much of the conservative opposition that
President Obama is receiving to the issue of race.
initially i didn't think this was true but i'm changing my mind...the
hatred of obama, along with the idea that he's some alien communist
sent to destroy america is so unbelieveable that no rational person
would propose it. it must be based on race
There's no other explanation for it.
--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All
He's a sock-puppet, controlled by those hiding in the wings....

Something like a lot of the posters here

and george bush was a model of independent thinking...

uh huh.


I'm sure Joe Wilson's motivations are as pure as the driven snow.

In 2003, Addison "Joe" Wilson, a protegé of Sen. Strom Thurmond,
publicly criticized Essie Mae Washington-Williams (the daughter of the
Thurmond’s 16-year old African-American servant) when she revealed that
Strom Thurmond was her genetic father.

Wilson said even if her story was true, she should not have revealed it
because "it's a smear" on Thurmond's image and was a way to "diminish"
Thurmond's legacy.]After Thurmond's family acknowledged the truth of
Washington-Williams' revelation, Wilson apologized but said that he
still thought that she should not have revealed that Thurmond was her
father.

Congressman Wilson is cautious when he makes public remarks:

On a 2002 live broadcast of the C-SPAN talk show Washington Journal,
guests Wilson and Democratic congressman Bob Filner were discussing
Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. When Filner said that the US "gave"
Iraq "chemical and biological weapons" in the 1980s, Wilson said this
idea was "made up" and commented to Filner "This hatred of America by
some people is just outrageous. And you need to get over that." Wilson
apologized for his remarks in statements to the press.


Wilson is or was active in the Sons of Confederate Veterans, which used
to be an honorable organization for the descendants of those who fought
on the south's side in the Civil War and who wanted to preserve that
history, but now has deteriorated into to a politicized organization
dedicated to preserving the "Lost Cause" version of the history of the
Civil War and the 1861-1865 era. The SCV states that "[t]he preservation
of liberty and freedom was the motivating factor in the South's decision
to fight the Second American Revolution".

Some references swiped from wiki



Imagine "sticking up" for a p.o.s. like Strom Thurmond.







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Does Jimmy Carter read rec.boats?
 

On Sep 16, 1:46*am, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:46:42 -0700, "nom=de=plume"



The really disturbing part is the promoting of these feelings of fear and
uncertainty by "news services" such as Fox and Dick Army's Freedomworks.
Both of these groups know better. They should be ashamed of themselves.

There's no reason to insult the sensibilities of on concerned
Americans with untenable speculation. *You are right in that in as
much as the anxiety produced by the apparent path the country is
taking could be described as fear by less discerning persons, the
description fails to acknowledge legitimate concerns of those persons
who have their sensibilities assaulted, too, by statements such as
this; "One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is
led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it
can also have great advantages," written by Tom Friedman for the NYT.

tom friedman isn't barack obama. and the signs carried by folks, like
in the recent rally in washington, saying that obama's some alien
communist atheist america hating...well you get the picture...


The obvious that smacks the 'enlightened' reader pugilistically
between the eyes is that any one-party rule

and the GOP had one party rule in this country for so long, it's
driven them crazy to even conceptualize the idea there could be
another party in power...so they think power was grabbed, not
legitimately transferred

is an open invitation for
the induction of a narcissitic Nero who may, on a whim, blithely pin
ne'er-do-wells to trees, coat with wax, and set afire to serve as
improvised night lights. *If the autocrat can be enlightened the
autocrat can be debauch. *But, this is just one of many scenarios that
has given rise to civil angst. *To posit an argument that hinges on
the 'puerile' fears of a few citizens is to criminally deprecate the
wide-spread, warranted hand-wringing over profligate spending by our
"enlightened" legates and imperators.

the biggest spenders in US history were ronald reagan and george w.
bush. where was the outrage when they busted the budget?

Does Jimmy Carter read rec.boats?
 

wf3h wrote:
On Sep 15, 11:31 pm, Jack wrote:
On Sep 15, 9:32 pm, wf3h wrote:

On Sep 15, 9:13 pm, H the K wrote:
From NBC's Mark Murray
In an interview with NBC's Brian Williams, former Democratic President
Jimmy Carter attributed much of the conservative opposition that
President Obama is receiving to the issue of race.
initially i didn't think this was true but i'm changing my mind...the
hatred of obama, along with the idea that he's some alien communist
sent to destroy america is so unbelieveable that no rational person
would propose it. it must be based on race


Poor old Carter is an old man, and hasn't come along with the rest of
the country. He hasn't gotten over the rabbit attack?

carter's not the only one saying it.


If I were a racist who lived in South Carolina like our boy Jack here,
I'd also be on the defensive...


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On Sep 16, 7:44*am, H the K wrote:


Some references swiped from wiki

Imagine "sticking up" for a p.o.s. like Strom Thurmond.

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wow. didn't know that. it just keeps getting better and better. the
GOP truly is a party of embittered, angry old white southerners.

Does Jimmy Carter read rec.boats?
 

On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:47:42 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 16, 1:46*am, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:46:42 -0700, "nom=de=plume"

snipped for brevity

the biggest spenders in US history were ronald reagan and george w.
bush. where was the outrage when they busted the budget?

Got up on the wrong side of a reasoned discourse this morning?

"House Speaker Thomas O'Neill (D., Mass.), who had tried to offset the
President's personal pulling power with some tough political talk of
his own, said after the vote that "the monkey is off the Democrat's
back. The federal budget cuts, as brutal as they are, are Reagan's
cuts."

Toledo Blade, May 8th, 1981

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