On Sep 16, 2:59*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 16, 2:08*pm, wrote:



On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:57:20 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

if murderers had killed someone else then took refuge in my house, i'd
certainly blame them if the other person blew up my house.

why is that so hard to believe?

The murders died in the plane crash ... unless you are a "911
truther".

khalid sheikh mohammed planned the attacks. he didn't die on 9/11.
osama gave approval and helped bankroll it. he didn't die in the
attack.

so you need to learn a bit more about history

How many Afghans planned the attack? *Zero

actually alot. they were complicit in the conspiracy by aiding and
abetting its planners. you seem ignorant of the facts of the case AND
of the law behind it. probably because you sympathize with those who
hate the US.

Is Bin Laden in Afghanistan? No *

gee. where was he on 9/11?

oh. you don't know that either...

Why aren't we bombing Pakistan if that is who is hiding Bin Laden?

because it's a sovereign country with a mildly passing govt that is
doing SOME part to address the issue...not effectively, but better
than nothing

of course, if you *understood some history...but i suppose that's
asking too much



The rest of this "war" is just chasing a ghost who may have really
been killed in Tora Bora years ago. Even those who say Bin Laden is
alive say he is NOT in Afghanistan.
To follow your analogy, we would still be bombing Japan for Pearl
Harbor.

if the japanese hadn't surrendered, yes.

Afghanistan never declared war on us, we attacked them.

9/11 argues otherwise, your quisling positioning notwithstanding. we
attacked AFTER 9/11. i'm not sure what calendar you're using but you
might want to get a refund.

There is

nothing to "surrender" from.
Most Taliban fighters were children on 911, some still are.

which is irrelevant. mullah omar was not, and is not a child. again
you betray your ignorance

*Will we be

killing their children in 20 years too (hence the analogy).

yes, if they insist on jihad against the west. i'm sure you'll enjoy
another 9/11, but the rest of us won't. sorry

the reason bush was an idiot is he's done nothing about the war in
afghanistan. he ignored calls for more troops, for building the afghan
security services, for working with pakistan to destroy the taliban,
etc...

How many troops did the Soviets have? How did that work out for them?

how many stinger missiles are the russians supplying the taliban to
use against us?

IOW, again you don't know what happened to the soviets in the war but
feign some knowledge about an area you're woefully ignorant of.

The war is stupid, It is just our 21st century Vietnam.-

i guess if you can't think outside the box and have a religious faith
in cliches, then, yes, it would seem like vietnam.

to those of us who follow what islamists are actually saying, have
read qutb, azzam, huntington, etc., it's a cultural war that may take
generations. but that's hardly unique in world history.

The Crusades took hundreds of years and didn't accomplish a thing.

irrelevant.

There are a billion Islamics in the world.

there are a billion muslims. about 20-30% are islamists who hate the
west.

*Are we going to kill them

all? We are sure ****ing off a significant number of them for no
particular reason.

in your opinion. just as christianity has died in europe because of
its internecine warfare, so muslims will have to come to grips with
the hatred in their religion. obviously if we wanted to, we could end
the issue in 30 minutes. but it's a measure of our humanity we
haven't.

you, OTOH, can think of no position but supine surrender.

*A handful of terrorists have made people like you

declare war on a 6th of the world population, a war we are going to
lose.

as i said, you, president of the neville chamberlain society, can
think of no muslim who isn't a terrorist, and no westerner who doesn't
deserve death

it sucks to be you

I suppose a good 50 year "nuclear winter" will bring down the
population to a manageable size and cure that pesky global warming
problem tho. It is the logical conclusion when you declare war on
Pakistan and the world chooses sides. Bear in mind WWI and the
resulting WWII started over less.- Hide quoted text -

tough. we have the resources to defend ourselves as long as it takes.
the cold war took 50 years. we can certainly do that against and
ignorant, backwards and savage ideology, including useful idiots like
you

My, aren't you feeling your Cheerios today!

You say "in your opinion. just as christianity has died in europe
because of its internecine warfare" You surely don't know much about
Christianity in Europe.

You remind me of the character played by Larry Lavon Linville

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Linville