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news  On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:19:15 -0400, H the K wrote: Bush killed at least 100,000 people. He also allowed 3000+ U.S. civilians to be killed. Let's hope Obama doesn't break that record but the worst days of the "good war" are on Obama's watch. I still am not sure why we are there. http://icasualties.org/oef/ I don't have a good feeling about increasing troop strength at this point. As Obama said (paraphrasing), the generals are thinking about the war, the president needs to think about the world. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:52:52 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message news On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:19:15 -0400, H the K wrote: Bush killed at least 100,000 people. He also allowed 3000+ U.S. civilians to be killed. Let's hope Obama doesn't break that record but the worst days of the "good war" are on Obama's watch. I still am not sure why we are there. http://icasualties.org/oef/ I don't have a good feeling about increasing troop strength at this point. As Obama said (paraphrasing), the generals are thinking about the war, the president needs to think about the world. The interesting thing to me was said on Anderson Cooper the other night from Afghanistan. It turns out we don't even think Bin Laden is there anymore and that the Taliban has absolutely no global aspirations. Their connection to Al Queda is tenuous at best. I thought it was pretty clear that bin laden is in Pakistan. He left Tora Bora, right... -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:26:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The interesting thing to me was said on Anderson Cooper the other night from Afghanistan. It turns out we don't even think Bin Laden is there anymore and that the Taliban has absolutely no global aspirations. Their connection to Al Queda is tenuous at best. I thought it was pretty clear that bin laden is in Pakistan. He left Tora Bora, right... Yet we are still losing Americans every day looking for him in Afghanistan ... amazing. There does seem to be a double standard on the left. If this was GWB doing this, it would be the only thing the talking heads on TV were talking about. Not to my knowledge we are.... we're supposedly trying to protect the Afg. people and ensuring a stable gov't there. I haven't heard anything about hunting for bin laden in Afg. since he left Tora Bora. Not sure what you mean by the double standard comment. The Afg. war was supported by the world community, by both right and left in this country, and now is being criticized by many on the left as a waste of effort. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sep 14, 2:20*am, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:52:52 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message news On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:19:15 -0400, H the K wrote: Bush killed at least 100,000 people. He also allowed 3000+ U.S. civilians to be killed. Let's hope Obama doesn't break that record but the worst days of the "good war" are on Obama's watch. I still am not sure why we are there. http://icasualties.org/oef/ I don't have a good feeling about increasing troop strength at this point. |
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In article , says... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:37:41 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: Let's hope Obama doesn't break that record but the worst days of the "good war" are on Obama's watch. I still am not sure why we are there. http://icasualties.org/oef/ I don't have a good feeling about increasing troop strength at this point. As Obama said (paraphrasing), the generals are thinking about the war, the president needs to think about the world. The interesting thing to me was said on Anderson Cooper the other night from Afghanistan. It turns out we don't even think Bin Laden is there anymore and that the Taliban has absolutely no global aspirations. Their connection to Al Queda is tenuous at best.- today that's true. wasn't true on 9/11. If you believe that you are saying GWB was right and BHO is wrong. Are you sure you don't want to reconsider? Personally I don't believe the Taliban has ever had any grudge with the US beyond our invading their country and if we leave they won't care about us at all. They tolerated al queda but, I doubt they had anything to do with 9-11 Somebody has to get by this whole thing that "we are there because of 9/11". We are there to stop radical Islam from forcing Islamic rule, Taliban style on a huge chunk of real estate and possibly hundreds of millions of unwilling residents of those areas. Wrong again, dirtbag. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Sep 14, 11:58*am, JustWait wrote:
Somebody has to get by this whole thing that "we are there because of 9/11". We are there to stop radical Islam from forcing Islamic rule, Taliban style on a huge chunk of real estate and possibly hundreds of millions of unwilling residents of those areas. i don't care if they are crazed islamist fanatics. what i DO care about is that crazed islamist fanatics want to kill us. as far as i'm concerned, islam, like xtianity, is a degenerate, anti-human belief. people can believe that crap if they want, as long as they keep it to themselves. |
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On Sep 14, 11:46*am, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:37:41 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: The interesting thing to me was said on Anderson Cooper the other night from Afghanistan. It turns out we don't even think Bin Laden is there anymore and that the Taliban has absolutely no global aspirations. Their connection to Al Queda is tenuous at best.- today that's true. wasn't true on 9/11. If you believe that you are saying GWB was right and BHO is wrong. Are you sure you don't want to reconsider? obama, like bush, knows OBL is in pakistan. the difference between BHO and GWB is that BHO realizes a taliban ruled afghanistan is a threat to the US...which GWB never realized Personally I don't believe the Taliban has ever had any grudge with the US beyond our invading their country they attacked us. what do you think happens when someone attacks a country and murders 3000 americans? are you really that dense? and if we leave they won't care about us at all. They tolerated al queda but, I doubt they had anything to do with 9-11 no moreso than the guy who drives the get away car has a role in a bank robbery |
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... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:37:41 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: Let's hope Obama doesn't break that record but the worst days of the "good war" are on Obama's watch. I still am not sure why we are there. http://icasualties.org/oef/ I don't have a good feeling about increasing troop strength at this point. As Obama said (paraphrasing), the generals are thinking about the war, the president needs to think about the world. The interesting thing to me was said on Anderson Cooper the other night from Afghanistan. It turns out we don't even think Bin Laden is there anymore and that the Taliban has absolutely no global aspirations. Their connection to Al Queda is tenuous at best.- today that's true. wasn't true on 9/11. If you believe that you are saying GWB was right and BHO is wrong. Are you sure you don't want to reconsider? Personally I don't believe the Taliban has ever had any grudge with the US beyond our invading their country and if we leave they won't care about us at all. They tolerated al queda but, I doubt they had anything to do with 9-11 ?? The Taliban were clearly supporting bin laden, although not many years prior to 9/11, certainly leading up to it. They did more than tolerate them. They actively supported them in the timeframe I notes. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sep 16, 1:22*am, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:48:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:37:41 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: Let's hope Obama doesn't break that record but the worst days of the "good war" are on Obama's watch. I still am not sure why we are there. http://icasualties.org/oef/ I don't have a good feeling about increasing troop strength at this point. As Obama said (paraphrasing), the generals are thinking about the war, the president needs to think about the world. The interesting thing to me was said on Anderson Cooper the other night from Afghanistan. It turns out we don't even think Bin Laden is there anymore and that the Taliban has absolutely no global aspirations. Their connection to Al Queda is tenuous at best.- today that's true. wasn't true on 9/11. If you believe that you are saying GWB was right and BHO is wrong. Are you sure you don't want to reconsider? Personally I don't believe the Taliban has ever had any grudge with the US beyond our invading their country and if we leave they won't care about us at all. They tolerated al queda but, I doubt they had anything to do with 9-11 ?? The Taliban were clearly supporting bin laden, although not many years prior to 9/11, certainly leading up to it. They did more than tolerate them. They actively supported them in the timeframe I notes. It wasn't all that many years since Bin Laden was in Sudan 3 years earlier (when Clinton let him go) We punished them by blowing up their aspirin factory and killing a security guard. That showed them! Support? What kind of support? If you mean they let him use a cave, so what. they didn't let him 'use a cave'. he was in power, bankrolling the taliban regime. we insisted he be turned over to us. they refused. but you seem willing to ignore that. These guys are Saudis. Rich Saudis. What did we do to Saudi Arabia? We held their hand and gave them $100 for oil the saudis practice wahabi islam, a paranoid, hated filled view of an already backward religion. it's no wonder most of the killers were saudi. |
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