I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

thunder wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...

That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?


Heheh...

JustHate will have to bring his mommy and the video...

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I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...




Bill you? You're on the dole for health care.


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Idiots All

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Eddie wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:56:57 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:46:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws1YDi4hEps

I thought it was good, that is unless I was missing something bad
about it.
Other than all the distortions, outright lies and general misdirection
about his intentions, it wasn't bad at all.
Please list the distortions, lies and misdirections, with proof that
they are what you claim.
In the local news at 10 channel right after the speech they said it is
correct that illegal immigrants would not be eligible for universal
health care.
However, at the end of that news report, they did mention (the
disclosure) in a quick report that although that is true, illegal
immigrants *DO NOT* have to say they are undocumented illegal
immigrants. It's in the bill they said.
So let me get this right, I have cancer, serious cancer that will need
a lot of attention, with surgery, etc, etc. I live in Mexico, I am
unemployed, very poor, and will die without good medical care. I then
cross over (it's done daily, by many)N go to the nearest health
provider, be it a cancer specialist or hospital and tell them I need
help. Because I would not qualify for benefits as the bill is
written, I would just say my name Jose Jimenez.
Nothing else. No proof that I am a citizen of the U.S. Actually I
wouldn't even have to speak English, as there are many U.S. citizens
that don't speak English.
So Obama is right. No health care for illegals. But whatcha bet the
illegals will find out about the small print, very pronto!
Eddie
Bull****.

Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...


Cite where it was "deliberately" left out, please.

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...

That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

No, they just don't let you run for president.

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...

That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...

Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they? Mexico
*has* universal coverage.

You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.

Our capitalist health care system is just fine. It needs the government to
keep their hands off of it, and it will do just fine. The government is the
one who broke it.

All the talk about jobs before the election. And now none. What good is
free insurance except for people who won't work?

Steve

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...

That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...

Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they? Mexico
*has* universal coverage.

You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.

"Universal Coverage"? How long do they have to wait? Are the doctors as
qualified as they are here where you can get instant treatment, by the
best doctors?

--
Wafa free since 2009

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Eddie wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:56:57 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:46:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws1YDi4hEps

I thought it was good, that is unless I was missing something bad
about it.
Other than all the distortions, outright lies and general misdirection
about his intentions, it wasn't bad at all.
Please list the distortions, lies and misdirections, with proof that
they are what you claim.
In the local news at 10 channel right after the speech they said it is
correct that illegal immigrants would not be eligible for universal
health care.
However, at the end of that news report, they did mention (the
disclosure) in a quick report that although that is true, illegal
immigrants *DO NOT* have to say they are undocumented illegal
immigrants. It's in the bill they said.
So let me get this right, I have cancer, serious cancer that will need
a lot of attention, with surgery, etc, etc. I live in Mexico, I am
unemployed, very poor, and will die without good medical care. I then
cross over (it's done daily, by many)N go to the nearest health
provider, be it a cancer specialist or hospital and tell them I need
help. Because I would not qualify for benefits as the bill is
written, I would just say my name Jose Jimenez.
Nothing else. No proof that I am a citizen of the U.S. Actually I
wouldn't even have to speak English, as there are many U.S. citizens
that don't speak English.
So Obama is right. No health care for illegals. But whatcha bet the
illegals will find out about the small print, very pronto!
Eddie
Bull****.

Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...


Cite where it was "deliberately" left out, please.

It was brought up several times in committee and dismissed by the
democratic majority, on party line votes. Please expand your news
intake, these things are discussed every Sunday morning on the talk
shows, all networks...

--
Wafa free since 2009

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:02 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...

That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...

Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they? Mexico
*has* universal coverage.

You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.


Current law is the ER has to treat and stabilize a patient. Beyond
that they can require proof of insurance or ability to pay before they
proceed. I assume that is where the proof of citizenship would kick
in.
People would have to carry the same type of ID they need to keep INS
off their back and this is certainly profiling. If you look and talk
like an American, they don't bother you from my experience. Latin
looking people with an accent get profiled.

What's the big deal? I have had to carry ID since I was a young boy? I
have had to show it every time I go in to the ER and for many other
normal daily activity. Why should certain folks be different?

--
Wafa free since 2009

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:02 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...
Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they? Mexico
*has* universal coverage.

You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.

Current law is the ER has to treat and stabilize a patient. Beyond
that they can require proof of insurance or ability to pay before they
proceed. I assume that is where the proof of citizenship would kick
in.
People would have to carry the same type of ID they need to keep INS
off their back and this is certainly profiling. If you look and talk
like an American, they don't bother you from my experience. Latin
looking people with an accent get profiled.

What's the big deal? I have had to carry ID since I was a young boy? I
have had to show it every time I go in to the ER and for many other
normal daily activity. Why should certain folks be different?



It should be noted that the newsgroup idiot, Scott JustWait, doesn't
know the difference between an ordinary "ID" card and a national
identity card.



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Idiots All

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

"H the K" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:02 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might
be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...
Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they?
Mexico *has* universal coverage.
You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.

Current law is the ER has to treat and stabilize a patient. Beyond
that they can require proof of insurance or ability to pay before they
proceed. I assume that is where the proof of citizenship would kick
in.
People would have to carry the same type of ID they need to keep INS
off their back and this is certainly profiling. If you look and talk
like an American, they don't bother you from my experience. Latin
looking people with an accent get profiled.

What's the big deal? I have had to carry ID since I was a young boy? I
have had to show it every time I go in to the ER and for many other
normal daily activity. Why should certain folks be different?



It should be noted that the newsgroup idiot, Scott JustWait, doesn't know
the difference between an ordinary "ID" card and a national identity card.



What the 'ell? What does he mean... "every time I go in to the ER "?
Just how often does he or his kids end up in the ER??

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...
Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they? Mexico
*has* universal coverage.

You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.

"Universal Coverage"? How long do they have to wait? Are the doctors as
qualified as they are here where you can get instant treatment, by the
best doctors?

Instant treatment my ass! They damned near killed me because I had to
wait until the next day to get an open operating room.

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Eddie wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:56:57 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:46:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws1YDi4hEps

I thought it was good, that is unless I was missing something bad
about it.
Other than all the distortions, outright lies and general misdirection
about his intentions, it wasn't bad at all.
Please list the distortions, lies and misdirections, with proof that
they are what you claim.
In the local news at 10 channel right after the speech they said it is
correct that illegal immigrants would not be eligible for universal
health care.
However, at the end of that news report, they did mention (the
disclosure) in a quick report that although that is true, illegal
immigrants *DO NOT* have to say they are undocumented illegal
immigrants. It's in the bill they said.
So let me get this right, I have cancer, serious cancer that will need
a lot of attention, with surgery, etc, etc. I live in Mexico, I am
unemployed, very poor, and will die without good medical care. I then
cross over (it's done daily, by many)N go to the nearest health
provider, be it a cancer specialist or hospital and tell them I need
help. Because I would not qualify for benefits as the bill is
written, I would just say my name Jose Jimenez.
Nothing else. No proof that I am a citizen of the U.S. Actually I
wouldn't even have to speak English, as there are many U.S. citizens
that don't speak English.
So Obama is right. No health care for illegals. But whatcha bet the
illegals will find out about the small print, very pronto!
Eddie
Bull****.
Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...

Cite where it was "deliberately" left out, please.

It was brought up several times in committee and dismissed by the
democratic majority, on party line votes. Please expand your news
intake, these things are discussed every Sunday morning on the talk
shows, all networks...


Never have heard or seen anything about that. Could you provide a cite
please?

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:02 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might
be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...
Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they?
Mexico *has* universal coverage.
You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.
Current law is the ER has to treat and stabilize a patient. Beyond
that they can require proof of insurance or ability to pay before they
proceed. I assume that is where the proof of citizenship would kick
in.
People would have to carry the same type of ID they need to keep INS
off their back and this is certainly profiling. If you look and talk
like an American, they don't bother you from my experience. Latin
looking people with an accent get profiled.
What's the big deal? I have had to carry ID since I was a young boy? I
have had to show it every time I go in to the ER and for many other
normal daily activity. Why should certain folks be different?


It should be noted that the newsgroup idiot, Scott JustWait, doesn't know
the difference between an ordinary "ID" card and a national identity card.



What the 'ell? What does he mean... "every time I go in to the ER "?
Just how often does he or his kids end up in the ER??



Probably get burned walking by that hot motorcycle in the kitchen.





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Idiots All

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...

That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:16:45 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...
Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they? Mexico
*has* universal coverage.

You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.

"Universal Coverage"? How long do they have to wait? Are the doctors as
qualified as they are here where you can get instant treatment, by the
best doctors?

Instant treatment my ass! They damned near killed me because I had to
wait until the next day to get an open operating room.

Gosh, one day. Some Canadians would think three months was a short
time.
--

John H

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:16:45 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might
be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...
Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they?
Mexico
*has* universal coverage.

You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.

"Universal Coverage"? How long do they have to wait? Are the doctors as
qualified as they are here where you can get instant treatment, by the
best doctors?

Instant treatment my ass! They damned near killed me because I had to
wait until the next day to get an open operating room.

Gosh, one day. Some Canadians would think three months was a short
time.
--

John H

Depending on the operation...darn right.
You 'mericans are spoiled babies.

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...

That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H


How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap
these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida?
right.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...

That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

No, they just don't let you run for president.



Oh Jeez... you're a birther? Blech...

--
Nom=de=Plume

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H

Please show me where any liberal EVER said that they were "in favor of
voter fraud" or apologize for the lie.

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:40:25 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...

That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H


How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap
these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida?
right.

The same way they'll pay for health care.

You need to read some newspapers.
--

John H

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:16:45 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...
Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they? Mexico
*has* universal coverage.

You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.
"Universal Coverage"? How long do they have to wait? Are the doctors as
qualified as they are here where you can get instant treatment, by the
best doctors?

Instant treatment my ass! They damned near killed me because I had to
wait until the next day to get an open operating room.

Gosh, one day. Some Canadians would think three months was a short
time.
--

John H
Bull****. Show me where a Canadian had to wait three months for a
critical treatment that needed to be done within 24 hours.

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:40:25 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...

That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H


How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap
these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida?
right.

The same way they'll pay for health care.

You need to read some newspapers.
--

John H


As opposed to how we're paying for it now? The status quo is not
sustainable.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H


How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap
these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida?
right.

Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact
that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner.

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:42:57 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H

Please show me where any liberal EVER said that they were "in favor of
voter fraud" or apologize for the lie.

Read carefully:

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:40:25 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...

That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H


How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap
these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida?
right.

The same way they'll pay for health care.

You need to read some newspapers.
--

John H
--

John H

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:30:14 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:40:25 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...

That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H


How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap
these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida?
right.

The same way they'll pay for health care.

You need to read some newspapers.
--

John H


As opposed to how we're paying for it now? The status quo is not
sustainable.




--

John H

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:10:41 -0300, "Don White"

What the 'ell? What does he mean... "every time I go in to the ER "?
Just how often does he or his kids end up in the ER??

About 80% of illegal immigrants use the ER as their primary care
provider. You know, for the sniffles, for a common cold, for a
coughing infant, with fever, whatever.
It burdens the ERs with unnecessary treatments not to mention the high
cost since none of the users ever pay for ER visits.
The users of the ER know they will and have to be treated. Sure they
may wait a few hours, but since most don't work, or the mother is the
one who takes in the sick child, time is not important. This happens
at every county facility where large population of Mexicans live such
as LA, SF, SD, SJ, and smaller towns that line the border with Mexico.
I suppose they do not use their free health care because that would
mean having to travel back to Mexico which would mean having to cross
back north once again later. It's much easier, cheaper and quicker to
just go to the nearest ER and ask for treatment.
That's what my employees did over the years, so I speak from
experience.
Eddie

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H


How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in
Florida? right.

Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact that
Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner.


Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal
Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the
president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the
polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive.
Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered it
in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off,
politically, financially, and morally.

Now, answer the question.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

"Eddie" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:10:41 -0300, "Don White"

What the 'ell? What does he mean... "every time I go in to the ER "?
Just how often does he or his kids end up in the ER??

About 80% of illegal immigrants use the ER as their primary care
provider. You know, for the sniffles, for a common cold, for a
coughing infant, with fever, whatever.
It burdens the ERs with unnecessary treatments not to mention the high
cost since none of the users ever pay for ER visits.
The users of the ER know they will and have to be treated. Sure they
may wait a few hours, but since most don't work, or the mother is the
one who takes in the sick child, time is not important. This happens
at every county facility where large population of Mexicans live such
as LA, SF, SD, SJ, and smaller towns that line the border with Mexico.
I suppose they do not use their free health care because that would
mean having to travel back to Mexico which would mean having to cross
back north once again later. It's much easier, cheaper and quicker to
just go to the nearest ER and ask for treatment.
That's what my employees did over the years, so I speak from
experience.
Eddie

Yeah but...what about the Freak. He's not Mexican......just a little
confused.

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:16:45 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...
Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they? Mexico
*has* universal coverage.

You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.

"Universal Coverage"? How long do they have to wait? Are the doctors as
qualified as they are here where you can get instant treatment, by the
best doctors?

Instant treatment my ass! They damned near killed me because I had to
wait until the next day to get an open operating room.

Gosh, one day. Some Canadians would think three months was a short
time.

I think they just didn't like Loogie... Just kidding...

--
Wafa free since 2009

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

In article ,
says...

JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?

Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H

Please show me where any liberal EVER said that they were "in favor of
voter fraud" or apologize for the lie.

I bet Harry has uttered those words before, especially if it creates one
party rule like we have now. And if you think there are not millions of
other idiots like him around, you are not paying attention.

--
Wafa free since 2009

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H
Please show me where any liberal EVER said that they were "in favor of
voter fraud" or apologize for the lie.

I bet Harry has uttered those words before, especially if it creates one
party rule like we have now. And if you think there are not millions of
other idiots like him around, you are not paying attention.



Try to leave me out of your high-level political discussions with your
brother idiot, loogy.

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was
deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of
them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute,
liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud.

I forgot.
--

John H

How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in
Florida? right.

Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact that
Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner.


Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal
Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the
president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the
polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive.
Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered it
in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off,
politically, financially, and morally.

Now, answer the question.

Already did, sweetie.

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...
How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in
Florida? right.

Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact
that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner.


Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal
Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the
president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the
polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive.
Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered
it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off,
politically, financially, and morally.

Now, answer the question.

Already did, sweetie.


No, you didn't:

How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap these days.


--
Nom=de=Plume

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in
Florida? right.

Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact
that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner.

Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal
Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the
president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the
polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive.
Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered
it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off,
politically, financially, and morally.

Now, answer the question.

Already did, sweetie.


No, you didn't:

How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap these days.


Oh, that question. I have no proposals with regard to how poor people
obtain passports. You figure it out. You seem semi intelligent.

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're
not cheap these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in
Florida? right.

Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact
that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner.

Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal
Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the
president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in
the polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and
supportive. Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position,
Bush squandered it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and
we're much worse off, politically, financially, and morally.

Now, answer the question.

Already did, sweetie.


No, you didn't:

How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap these days.


Oh, that question. I have no proposals with regard to how poor people
obtain passports. You figure it out. You seem semi intelligent.


Not require a national id card... but of course, this is a Republican
talking point not mine.


--
Nom=de=Plume

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're
not cheap these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in
Florida? right.

Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact
that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner.
Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal
Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the
president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in
the polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and
supportive. Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position,
Bush squandered it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and
we're much worse off, politically, financially, and morally.

Now, answer the question.

Already did, sweetie.

No, you didn't:

How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap these days.

Oh, that question. I have no proposals with regard to how poor people
obtain passports. You figure it out. You seem semi intelligent.


Not require a national id card... but of course, this is a Republican
talking point not mine.


Did I say anything about a national ID card? I guess, maybe, I gave you
too much credit.
You seem to be a bit irritated. Are you having your "friend"?

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:16:45 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might
be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...
Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they?
Mexico
*has* universal coverage.

You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.
"Universal Coverage"? How long do they have to wait? Are the doctors as
qualified as they are here where you can get instant treatment, by the
best doctors?

Instant treatment my ass! They damned near killed me because I had to
wait until the next day to get an open operating room.
Gosh, one day. Some Canadians would think three months was a short
time.
--

John H

Depending on the operation...darn right.
You 'mericans are spoiled babies.



Well said! You are so dumb you have no idea, do you?

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:50:39 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
.. .
How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap these days.

Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in
Florida? right.

Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact
that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner.


Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal
Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the
president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the
polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive.
Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered
it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off,
politically, financially, and morally.

Now, answer the question.

Already did, sweetie.


No, you didn't:

How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap these days.

If we are to end up paying for health care for the poor, and not
including illegal immigrants, then I've no problem with providing the
poor a free passport. That could then be an ID requirement for the
free healthcare.
--

John H

I just saw Obama's HS speech
 

"D 2" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:16:45 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might
be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't
prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are
a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...
Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they?
Mexico
*has* universal coverage.

You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without
coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system
is
broken, and needs help.
"Universal Coverage"? How long do they have to wait? Are the doctors
as
qualified as they are here where you can get instant treatment, by the
best doctors?

Instant treatment my ass! They damned near killed me because I had to
wait until the next day to get an open operating room.
Gosh, one day. Some Canadians would think three months was a short
time.
--

John H

Depending on the operation...darn right.
You 'mericans are spoiled babies.

Well said! You are so dumb you have no idea, do you?

What are you drooling about Dumbo Dano?